Why the fascination with Kimmer? #11

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by JoanieOrchard

You know, although many many people participated in all the digging and researching, Jeanessa's determination to get her 59.95 back and filing a lawsuit is really what got this going. Who says one voice doesn't make a difference? It's amazing what one strong person can do.

No kidding!! I bet Heidi wishes she had just returned Jeanessa's money.

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

If anyone is interested in what I posted over there I would be happy to share them here. I do plan on putting my posts on my blog since the thread was deleted.

Honey, can I have a link to your blog? I don't think I know it.

TT was trying to come off as a KK survivor and nothing more. Eventually she would have been discovered had you not found her yourself. The problem is that would have probably taken some time. Time for her to slip up enough to cause someone to suspect her, or time enough to slowly ease in information after she felt accepted. How much time would that have been, taking into consideration how careful I'm sure she'd be to protect herself? I think had it gone on for a while and then discovered that there would have been a tremendous amount of hurt. There are a good amount of members at Amy's that were hurt by their KK experiences. TT knew this and had no regard for any of them. Not while they were members at KK, and not when she signed up at Amy's and tried to sneak in among them. Here's a woman who belittled people's health issues, banned members, hid information, wiped away evidence, lied ... all for herself, for Heidi, and for money and power.
If I was a member there and found out somewhere down the road that I'd been encouraging, disclosing personal feelings and fears, discussing my home life, joking around, what have you ... with TT I wouldn't just be angry, I would feel victimized all over again.
I'm sorry that there was controversy and drama at Amy's but I honestly feel that those few hours of drama were a much better outcome than the scenario it could have been. I'd rather that TT (and even Amy) be feeling a bit put out for the time that this all lasted then see a bunch of members feel they'd been had and victimized down the road.
There was no way to know that TT had finally confessed to Amy who she was and that Amy was going to make her members aware. You found her and it was put out in the open. And the open is the only place that something can be seen for what it truly is and discussed so that it doesn't become something dark and festering.
A necessary process that, unfortunately, isn't always pretty.
That's my view of it.

[JoanieOrchard]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

I agree that Heidi could not move a lot of money from Paypal without drawing attention, etc., but I also believe she left it there so if and when she was sued that they would think that is all she had....

I know we saw the Paypal statement (for October, wasn't it?), but how do we know that that amount of money was there when the court attached it? And why couldn't she transfer a large amount out and then go to the bank and get it in cash? Yes, it's reported to the IRS anything over 10,000, but taking her own money out of the bank isn't illegal. Could she not then say that she went to Vegas and dropped at the craps table? And really, all along starting when much of this came to light over the late summer, couldn't she have been taking money out of the account then in cash and hiding it?

I know she thinks she's smarter than everyone else, but she can't really be that stupid not to have tried to hide some of that money.

[Just4Me]

Originally Posted by McLurkypants

Clexus was added as a defendant right after Hidey's deposition. She had to answer all kinds of questions about the success before/after photos & where they came from, and my understanding is that during her deposition, she implicated the owner of Clexus in that part of the fraud. The company may be based in Turkey, but "Clexus New Media" is a registered business in Pennsylvania.

Ahh, okay. Thanks, hon!

[BamaGal]

for those of you still here...

do the numbers 514 hold any significance with Heidi

or the word----mogo

[**Lola**]

Originally Posted by EasyPeas

Note to Heidi: Heidi....I'm not you, but if I was.... I would have banned MYSELF before I banned AmyB.

ITA with this. It seems like according to someone on the last thread an attorney told Kimmer to get rid of the Kimmer persona on her board...and it looks like her ego would not let her do that.

If she were smart, she would have done that a long time ago. Let her admins run the board. Retire Kimmer. Refund anyone who was banned. Don't ban lifetime members. Make the diet safe and reasonable.

If she did those things, I think she would have stood a good chance of rectifying the situation.

To me it seems like Kimmer was in it more for the adulation and attention than the money and hence she couldn't retire the persona that was garnering her all of the attention (even if most of it turned negative..it was still attention).

[JoanieOrchard]

Originally Posted by JoanieOrchard

Ya know, considering how much she claimed to have weighed, they should have made her get on a scale at the deposition. Then we would have had proof positive of her weight and could prove whether her claims on the main KK page are true.

And and and more ... since she's claiming now to be losing large amounts of weight on the front page of Kimkins thereby drawing in more members, too bad they can't force her now to be weighed weekly or monitored by a doctor to prove that new claims are true.

[JadeRosie]

Originally Posted by BamaGal

she's got the hearing coming up with the student loan thing too...

then don't forget Hector is petitioning to have the spousal support cut off---that hearing is the 18th....she has to put in a financial statement for that....

ok what is the student loan thing?

And what ever came of her lying about being a foster mom?

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by wackytobeme

I think it is rather odd that only about 6 weeks ago TT's most ardent recent supporter didn't think to much of her and even called her a liar. Must have missed the post (different forum not LCF) where they made up, because she was sure quick to jump on the "let's give TT a chance bandwagon" which is of course her prerogative, but it just makes you go hmmmm. Also, this person was quick to be the first one to post at another site about the Red dress pic being found, but then later chastizes the people who invested all the time and effort as not having a life.
Well, me I'm just a "pot stirrer" but hey it's a rough job but somebody's gotta do it

Interesting.

Originally Posted by Tanner

There is always the old fashioned way --
Open up two browsers and copy paste ( gasp )

Oh man, I hate it when the answer is so dang simple and it never even occurs to me.
show off!

[JoanieOrchard]

Originally Posted by BamaGal

for those of you still here...

do the numbers 514 hold any significance with Heidi

or the word----mogo

I don't know. Is that her date of birth? May 14?

[JadeRosie]

Originally Posted by SMP

The cheques coming in are problematical. The feds haven't gotten on her case yet, AFAIK

i would bet they will. What she did constitutes mail and wire fraud. And if her bookkeeping was even a LITTLE off, they'll have fun with her.

The thing about the feds is that when they come knocking, it's already too late for you. They already have everything they need.

[JoanieOrchard]

Originally Posted by JadeRosie

ok what is the student loan thing?

And what ever came of her lying about being a foster mom?

She's going to court this month for defaulting on her student loans.

I don't know what is happening with the foster mom thing.

[EasyPeas]

Originally Posted by JoanieOrchard

I know we saw the Paypal statement (for October, wasn't it?), but how do we know that that amount of money was there when the court attached it? And why couldn't she transfer a large amount out and then go to the bank and get it in cash? Yes, it's reported to the IRS anything over 10,000, but taking her own money out of the bank isn't illegal. Could she not then say that she went to Vegas and dropped at the craps table? And really, all along starting when much of this came to light over the late summer, couldn't she have been taking money out of the account then in cash and hiding it?

I know she thinks she's smarter than everyone else, but she can't really be that stupid not to have tried to hide some of that money.

You're exactly right.... large transfers are reported to the IRS. Which would leave a trail. Hence.... the money is not hidden. And had she thought ahead, she could have said she lost it in Vegas. But then the attorney would have said, "Okay, when did you go? Where did you stay? Lets see some hotel receipts." She may have been able to hide/spend some of it. But the if Tiedt brought in a good asset discovery attorney, they'll find where it's stashed.

[JadeRosie]

Originally Posted by MJR

Hi guys,
I just wanted to say that for the past two days I have been 15 pages behind and am desperately trying to catch up. But, I need to jump in here and say that I AM SO GLAD THAT THIS THREAD DID NOT GET SHUT DOWN like so many wanted last week. Thank you Tom and admins for letting this thread stay. I can't believe how much has happened in the last couple of days. Great time to take a break huh? That's what I get for stepping away for a couple of days. Now, back to #10 to finish reading. I'll be caught up one of these days and back to posting.

why did people want this thread shut down? Which people?

[JadeRosie]

Originally Posted by JoanieOrchard

She's going to court this month for defaulting on her student loans.

I don't know what is happening with the foster mom thing.

how do you default on your student loans when you have $1.6 million??


I wonder when Atkins is going to sue her for copyright infringment?

[Chelveston]

Originally Posted by McLurkypants

Clexus was added as a defendant right after Hidey's deposition. She had to answer all kinds of questions about the success before/after photos & where they came from, and my understanding is that during her deposition, she implicated the owner of Clexus in that part of the fraud. The company may be based in Turkey, but "Clexus New Media" is a registered business in Pennsylvania.

That makes a lot of sense.

Originally Posted by JoanieOrchard

You made me think of something. Doesn't it happen that if someone is convicted of some kind of internet fraud that sometimes they are forbidden from being on the internet for a certain length of time?

It can happen. I so hope Heidi is banned from the internet for life. I hope Brandon gets 10 years.

Originally Posted by BamaGal

for those of you still here...

do the numbers 514 hold any significance with Heidi

or the word----mogo

Mogo, the DC comic planet? It's green.

Surely not the wireless Bluetooth mouse? Not a lot of MOGO acronyms around.

514 is the area code for SW Quebec/Montreal
IRS Publication 514 is about Foreign Tax credit for individuals

Originally Posted by EasyPeas

You're exactly right.... large transfers are reported to the IRS. Which would leave a trail. Hence.... the money is not hidden. And had she thought ahead, she could have said she lost it in Vegas. But then the attorney would have said, "Okay, when did you go? Where did you stay? Lets see some hotel receipts." She may have been able to hide/spend some of it.

I'd also bet that they'd check the video surveillance in Vegas, too.

[JoanieOrchard]

Originally Posted by EasyPeas

You're exactly right.... large transfers are reported to the IRS. Which would leave a trail. Hence.... the money is not hidden. And had she thought ahead, she could have said she lost it in Vegas. But then the attorney would have said, "Okay, when did you go? Where did you stay? Lets see some hotel receipts." She may have been able to hide/spend some of it. But the if Tiedt brought in a good asset discovery attorney, they'll find where it's stashed.

You can see I don't have a good criminal mind. But I do think it's a pretty safe bet that she got some of it out of there a few thousand at a time.

[Katinsac]

where's kimmer?

NO CHEATS here, only LOSERS Challenge 2 Hours, 57 Minutes ago Here I am -- gone ALL day and there was only one other post while I was away? Where is everybody? Hope you all aren't cheating.

We need a Rambo roll call!

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Slick, I noticed that too. Maybe some kind of computer problem. I don't think she would get kicked off... she is to gung ho kimkins to make someone kick her off.How was your day???? I have been busy cleaning house and didn't get online until tonight either. Looks like everyone is busy today, no one has been on. Take care and i will talk to ya tomorrow!

looks like a lot of AmyB's group got booted?

[Katinsac]

I think she is going back to court on the student loan stuff because they were made aware of the 1.6 mil +

[JoanieOrchard]

Originally Posted by BamaGal

for those of you still here...

do the numbers 514 hold any significance with Heidi

or the word----mogo

Mogo from wikipedia:

Mogo is a fictional character in the DC Comics Universe, a member of the Green Lantern Corps.

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by JoanieOrchard

Honeybee,........[snipped].....
I don't think anyone holds you in any way responsible for posting that information. There was no way that information would have stayed private. Someone else would have found it and posted it here eventually.
......[snipped]....Considering all the pent up anger and frustration over the last few months, I think Flippy got off pretty easy.
I'm sorry this is bothering you so.

Thanks Joanie I am not exactly sure why it bothered me. Oddly, I don't think I feel bad or wrong for posting the information or for how I behaved on the board. I don't mean that in a snarky/egotistical way at all. But I think I am more upset, I guess you would say, because it seemed to be assumed that we did behave badly at Amy's. Almost like I felt like I needed to defend "the haters"/the "ducks" that did go to Amy's to read, post or look around.

Now I say this based on the fact that I was off the boards and one of the first things I read here is Amy's post below and I was caught off guard. I went to read her board and I just didn't see what Amy was describing. Then as I was reading posts here trying to catch up it seemed that many were saying "sorry Amy" and of course that "TT is bad news". Now, I can understand feeling bad for Amy but I just got the impression that no one was questioning or challenging Amy on her comments, so thus they must be accepting her comment as a correct impression of what was going on. I wasn't get the same impression as Amy when I reviewed the posts there and it bothered me that I didn't see anyone asking her "who" or "what post" or "why do you say" that? But I felt that people were apologizing for me or really all of us who went over to Amy's and I didn't think it was needed. Especially, when you have TT saying how she guessed she should apologize but she wasn't exactly sure for what!
I don't know if that translates from my brain to my finger tips or not but that is as close as I can get to why it has bothered me.
Sorry if it sounds like I am beating a dead horse I will move on.

BTW- who posted something from Amy's to Kimkins?

Amykf-
I'm not singling anyone out. I'm basically at my wits end and don't know what else to do.

I am so upset that someone copied off my board and pasted onto Kimkins after I asked everyone nicely not to.

This has been a really hard day and I've been disappointed in pretty much everyone (my board, this board, etc.). I'm over here begging for peace.

Please if you are reading this, stop joining my board with names that are meant to stir the pot. I (and many many of my old members) are EXTREMELY upset that people have joined here just to post things to/about Tippy (regardless of how they feel about tippy). I have received MANY complaints about the sudden influx of new members who aren't even introducing themselves and are obviously there for the drama. I have old members threatening to quit because of it. You have this forum here to talk about Tippy all you want. If you are not on my board to contribute in a positive way, please leave now. We don't want you there any more than many of my members don't want Tippy there. Yes, tippy joining there is the cause of the drama (and my other admin will be dealing with that because I've just about had it with everyone), but in my opinion, by coming to my board and taking her words off my board and registering with names that are purposely to get a rise out of people - YOU are the ones causing drama on my board. We don't want it there.

I also am not going to stand for my members talking about other boards or other people in a disrespectful way either. I've let people slide in the past because I know many people feel they had nowhere to vent, but you know what - no more! So don't think I'm beating just you guys here up. I've been disappointed in my own members as well and there will be repercussions there as well.

I tried to give someone a chance when no one else would. I was hoping there would be a way for everyone to just get along, but I can see that's just not going to happen. My other admin will be dealing with this all from now on because I'm exhausted and I can't take it anymore.

[JoanieOrchard]

Originally Posted by JadeRosie

how do you default on your student loans when you have $1.6 million??


I wonder when Atkins is going to sue her for copyright infringment?

I think the student loans went back to the early 1990's, and I'm not sure if she paid much of anything on them.

[JoanieOrchard]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

where's kimmer?

NO CHEATS here, only LOSERS Challenge 2 Hours, 57 Minutes ago Here I am -- gone ALL day and there was only one other post while I was away? Where is everybody? Hope you all aren't cheating.

We need a Rambo roll call!

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Slick, I noticed that too. Maybe some kind of computer problem. I don't think she would get kicked off... she is to gung ho kimkins to make someone kick her off.How was your day???? I have been busy cleaning house and didn't get online until tonight either. Looks like everyone is busy today, no one has been on. Take care and i will talk to ya tomorrow!

looks like a lot of AmyB's group got booted?

Everybody? You mean the two or three members you allowed to stay?

She's been gone all day? I thought she was afraid to leave the house.

Me thinks she's been glued to the threads just as we have been.

[WildAngel6]

Originally Posted by BamaGal

for those of you still here...

do the numbers 514 hold any significance with Heidi

or the word----mogo

There is a LCF member called Mogo...

Could the 514 be her birthdate? She was talking about her birthday being in May and wanting to lose weight by then.