Why the fascination with Kimmer? #11

[JoanieOrchard]

Originally Posted by missis36

I know no one agrees with me on this, but this continues to foster her "us against them" mentality. As does every post from SL. That to me says exactly what I've been thinking. Very soon TT will launch her own site (Heidi may be pupet master) and it will be a "Safe haven" for ex-kkites. It will be the home away from home. Read her post again, read it closely, to me all it says is, "I will find a place for all of us, away from the hateful people, just wait and follow me"

I'm gonna bet money on this one. Any takers?

I dunno, Missi. My opinion on this has changed so many times. There are always so many good for/against opinions on here. I tend to think that many of the Kimkins members have already found other 'homes' (here, Jimmy's, Amy's etc.), and I'm not sure they would want to once again start someplace new even if it's run by a familiar face (Flippy).

Plus I think just about everyone knows she left the site because of money and lied about it. I can't imagine many actually trusting her. I think I could see Deni, Becky, Christin, or even Amy B starting something, but the most I see Flippy doing is maybe starting up on one of those sites that offers free bulletin boards.

I'm just not sure how well liked she really was on Kimkins. It seems like she spent most of her time there deleting posts and banning members.

[Mayberryfan]

Missi said:

Very soon TT will launch her own site

I think you're on to something, but dear Lord I hope we're wrong! The problem FlippyTippy faces is that she's not nearly as intelligent as Kimmer. If Kimmer couldn't successfully pull-off such a stunt and get by with it (and she's not!) then I don't see FlippyTippy being able to do it either.

The only plausible job I see in Tippy's future is consulting with Jeff Foxworthy for some new "You might be a redneck if.." jokes. Now that's a job she could do!

[JoanieOrchard]

Originally Posted by WildAngel6

grrrrrrrr.....



Kimkins Diet: How You Can Maintain Your Weight Loss With Kimkins

How can you maintain your weight loss with Kimkins when there isn't even a maintenance plan for Kimkins?

Oh, and I just loved this part! NOT!

"In response to the brouhaha over Kimmer's identity and whether her Before-and-After pictures really are of her, most of Kimkins' successful losers will warrant that there is only one set of Before-and-After photos that is important to them - their own.

That's about enough to keep any dieter on the right track."


Sheesh....
So it doesn't matter that she lied about following her own diet?
So it doesn't matter that she isn't who she said she is?
So it doesn't matter that it's all just been another con?

So no matter what the means are, the end justifies the means???

~sigh~


Re: End justifies the means The idea that any evil is OK if there is a good outcome. Anything is acceptable if it leads to a successful result.

I wonder if this is an old article? I didn't notice a date on it. Although it mentions Heidi's picture, people questioned the truthfulness of those photos for years. It could be this was written before the bride pics were found? Don't know.

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by missis36

I know no one agrees with me on this, but this continues to foster her "us against them" mentality. As does every post from SL. That to me says exactly what I've been thinking. Very soon TT will launch her own site (Heidi may be pupet master) and it will be a "Safe haven" for ex-kkites. It will be the home away from home. Read her post again, read it closely, to me all it says is, "I will find a place for all of us, away from the hateful people, just wait and follow me"

I'm gonna bet money on this one. Any takers?

I bet money, but I am putting money on TT opening her own site. Who is going to be the bookie on this one? LOL
Tippy is trying to be the pied piper but she is a more difficult time keeping a tune than Heidi....Hey maybe that is where SingingLass comes into all this.

But I agree that TT is trying to divide and conquer with making this a big scary place, just like Kimmer did with calling LCF'rs "negative nancies"..etc.

[beachfires]

Originally Posted by WildAngel6

Specialty of Kimkins Diet???

Ok so WHO really wrote this "artical"....

Greg Matthews or Ivanovich Cuxev?

Specialty of Kimkins Diet

Specialty of Kimkins Diet Nutrition



Is there like a pool of "articals" and these guys just go around and post them to the various "artical" sites?

Kimkins Dangers: Kimkins Hired Blogger Gone Awry??


Does anyone else ever get the feeling that we are trying to put this great big puzzle together and someone keeps hiding pieces from us?

I'm not sure WHO wrote the "artical" but I can tell you...whoever did it is certainly lacking in "The Command of the English Language" department....any guesses???

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

Missi said:

I think you're on to something, but dear Lord I hope we're wrong! The problem FlippyTippy faces is that she's not nearly as intelligent as Kimmer. If Kimmer couldn't successfully pull-off such a stunt and get by with it (and she's not!) then I don't see FlippyTippy being able to do it either.

The only plausible job I see in Tippy's future is consulting with Jeff Foxworthy for some new "You might be a redneck if.." jokes. Now that's a job she could do!

I agree that Tippy would need a partner. So who is going to hold the money on the bets. Oh, not money how about some carbquick or coconut bark on the line.

[WildAngel6]

Ok, I thought Kimkins preaches no exercise needed?

Exercise is key with kimkins Health Medicine Medical


Here are some other Kimkins "articals" at the same site:

Health Medicine Medical

Please feel free to post comments to any or all of the "articals".

Thank you!

[Barbara B]

Originally Posted by JoanieOrchard

Snippets of Flippy:




I’m so glad you clarified your position on Kimkins. It’s important to me to know what you believe. And your credentials are … ? Oh, I forgot you were subcontracting as the PR Director for Kimkins for two months. What else is on your resume? What are your other qualifications? And since we all know that Heidi has no medical/nutritional credentials to design a diet program, you must think that you do since your opinions are supposed to be so valuable. So what are those credentials? The nutrionist on the M & J Show wasn't too impressed with your credentials. Maybe because you didn't have any?

You offer us a critique of Kimkins and your disapproval of the plan behind the plan. Where do you think the plan behind the plan came from? Now, come on, you know Kimmer advocated all that crap before Kimkins.com was even started. Anyone (you) who went to Kimkins.com from LCF knew exactly what the diet was about, and anyone (you) who feigns ignorance and innocence about the plan behind the plan is being conveniently forgetful. The plan behind the plan was/is Kimkins.



You now know? You didn’t know about the starvation advice that she offered when she was on LCF? You didn’t know about that advice when you followed her to Kimkins? You didn’t know about that advice when Christin left Kimkins, and Becky left Kimkins, and Deni left Kimkins? You didn’t know about that advice when it was posted, for all to see, on LCF and on Kimkins? You didn’t know about that advice when there were multiple fascination threads on LCF and hundreds of other boards and blogs? You went on television three weeks ago to promote Kimkins, and you didn't know that Heidi offered starvation advice? As PR Director, there sure was an awful lot that you didn’t know. You might want to leave that PR job off your resume. It doesn’t speak highly of your skills.



As recently as a month ago, you didn’t have a problem when people paid 49.95 as long as your money was paid every month. Seems a little suspicious that you didn’t get this compassionate awareness until your money stopped coming in.



You now understand? Exactly WHAT caused this epiphany on your part? Was it when the paychecks stopped?



Oh for heaven’s sake. Why is it that when you don’t want to be honest about something, your posts are littered with “I don’t know” and “I don’t understand”.



When have we not had patience with Kimkins members? Any time someone comes here, as a former Kimkins member, they are embraced. You’re trying to come across as someone very concerned about the Kimkins members. Too bad you weren’t concerned when Kimkins members were being thrown off the site when their only infraction was to voice a concern or a difference of opinion. Those people needed support too, but you obviously weren’t too concerned about them. Whether you personally pushed the ban button is not the issue. As long as your money continued to come in, you did nothing to stand up for the members that you now claim to care so much about.

It's obvious that you don't 'get it' and that speaks volumes about your character.

[JoanieOrchard]

Darn it, I forgot again. Hi Flippy!

Ok, I think I'm going to change my mind again. It's menopause, so I can change my mind all I want.

Maybe Flippy is planning on starting a site. I try to approach most things logically - view the facts - make an informed decision based on the way things are and not the way I think they should be - do my research - you get the picture.

But then I remembered that we are talking about Flippy, and history has shown that she just doesn't 'get it', so keeping that in mind, ok, I'll change my mind and weigh in on the side of Flippy starting her own site.

And can I just say, I can't wait!

I do, however, reserve the right to change my mind tomorrow.

[WildAngel6]

Health article directory|information on breast cancer,diabetes,heart health

This site still has two Kimkins "articals" on it. I have gotten them to remove a couple of the other ones.

You do need to join the site to make comments, but you CAN rate the "artical" without joining, so please at least consider doing that. The lowest you can give is a one, but that'll work.

You can also contact the site to let them know how you feel about them supporting the Kimkins Diet Scam here:

Health article directory|information on breast cancer,diabetes,heart health

Even if you don't make a comment on the posts, please DO contact them to see if you can't help get these two "articals" removed.

Thank you!

[missis36]

Originally Posted by JoanieOrchard

I dunno, Missi. My opinion on this has changed so many times. There are always so many good for/against opinions on here. I tend to think that many of the Kimkins members have already found other 'homes' (here, Jimmy's, Amy's etc.), and I'm not sure they would want to once again start someplace new even if it's run by a familiar face (Flippy).

Plus I think just about everyone knows she left the site because of money and lied about it. I can't imagine many actually trusting her. I think I could see Deni, Becky, Christin, or even Amy B starting something, but the most I see Flippy doing is maybe starting up on one of those sites that offers free bulletin boards.

I'm just not sure how well liked she really was on Kimkins. It seems like she spent most of her time there deleting posts and banning members.

I said she was planning on starting a site, not that people would go hehe Honey addresses the idea perfectly. She will try to do it, but she will likely not succeed.

Think about Tippy's mind here (vast wasteland hehe) However, IF she has any followers at all, they just saw her try to go to Amy's, and she was not welcomed, (she will tell others they will not be welcomed either). This is likely the reason the post was referenced on KK's site (an inside job made to look like a hater detective)

It has been said here she is not welcomed here. It has also been said somewhere that she will not be welcomed at Jimmy's either. She has now laid the foundation for a NEED for a safe haven. Ya see?

SO, give it a week, but I'm laying cash on her next post referencing her being quiet because she's been establishing a new site. She will likely attempt to let ex-kk's join for free, but then later down the line promote it as a new diet site and welcome new members for a fee.

Also, note she still has not said ANYTHING that would rile Heidi, so for that reason I believe there IS a silent partner in her idea, and that partner is Heidi, kimmer, whatever the hell her new name will be. But this is how I see it unfolding. She made the mistake once of mentioning Heidi's idea to open another site, she's now laying the foundation for it

[JoanieOrchard]

Originally Posted by missis36

I said she was planning on starting a site, not that people would go hehe Honey addresses the idea perfectly. She will try to do it, but she will likely not succeed.

Think about Tippy's mind here (vast wasteland hehe) However, IF she has any followers at all, they just saw her try to go to Amy's, and she was not welcomed, (she will tell others they will not be welcomed either). This is likely the reason the post was referenced on KK's site (an inside job made to look like a hater detective)

It has been said here she is not welcomed here. It has also been said somewhere that she will not be welcomed at Jimmy's either. She has now laid the foundation for a NEED for a safe haven. Ya see?

SO, give it a week, but I'm laying cash on her next post referencing her being quiet because she's been establishing a new site. She will likely attempt to let ex-kk's join for free, but then later down the line promote it as a new diet site and welcome new members for a fee.

Also, note she still has not said ANYTHING that would rile Heidi, so for that reason I believe there IS a silent partner in her idea, and that partner is Heidi, kimmer, whatever the hell her new name will be. But this is how I see it unfolding. She made the mistake once of mentioning Heidi's idea to open another site, she's now laying the foundation for it

Ok, I already changed my mind. If she does it, I think she will spring it on us toward the end of the month. New Year, New Diet. Oh, I so hope people can join for free. Can you say stampede?

[Barbara B]

Originally Posted by WildAngel6

Health article directory|information on breast cancer,diabetes,heart health

This site still has two Kimkins "articals" on it. I have gotten them to remove a couple of the other ones.

You do need to join the site to make comments, but you CAN rate the "artical" without joining, so please at least consider doing that. The lowest you can give is a one, but that'll work.

You can also contact the site to let them know how you feel about them supporting the Kimkins Diet Scam here:

Health article directory|information on breast cancer,diabetes,heart health

Even if you don't make a comment on the posts, please DO contact them to see if you can't help get these two "articals" removed.

Thank you!

Done!

[missis36]

Originally Posted by JoanieOrchard

Ok, I already changed my mind. If she does it, I think she will spring it on us toward the end of the month. New Year, New Diet. Oh, I so hope people can join for free. Can you say stampede?

HAHA, well remember I said Members of KK will get in free, new members will have to pay a fee. Why you ask? To avoid Negative Nancy's and Nay Sayers joining just to start problems. This will be their angle, I assure you. Well I don't assure you, but again my money is on it.

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by kakay

Take Michelle and Melly for instance, they are not discussing tippy, but she still brings up things that have nothing at all to do with the kimmer mess.

We all knew it was coming after the Mike and Juliet show aired. Kimmer was finished with her, after all she didn't need her any more, and she allowed tippy to go on National TV and make a fool of her self.

She is so good at trying to turn friends against each other. I have this terrible feeling she is sucking Christian and Deni in to her web. I hate to see this happen and them get hurt.

No one denys that she lost weight( just not totally on kimkins) But I am so sick of her saying the bantas could not lose and that's why they dislike her. That is so not true. NO one is jealous of you tippy. I would rather stay fat than to have a black heart. Come on tippy and admit all the truth, no more lies cause we see right thru them.

Kakay, I snipped your post for length and highlighted what I wanted to comment on. She brought up the Michele and Melly thing because of what she caused in the Banta group. She brought my name into it because she cannot and will not get over that I told her flat out what all the rest of the Bantas were saying - that we held her responsible for the drama going on in the group, that we held her responsible for our thread being put under the microscope, that we were sick of her stirring up trouble in the group, and that she needed to stay away from us. She can't get over it.

Kimmer really did throw her under the bus, didn't she? How convenient that Kimmer had to be in the deposition on the 12th and couldn't go to NYC to speak for herself. Oh wait!! It was Kimmer who requested the delay on the deposition, wasn't it?

Yes, what TT does best is turn friends against each other. Tippy, you seriously need to GROW UP!

I don't really know what she has been saying about why she was kicked out of the Banta group, but she knows and we all know the truth. Jealousy? Puhleeze!!!

ETA: I am also very concerned for Christin, Deni, and those who post in their groups over at Jimmy's. They are far too open to letting TT come in and be a part of things there. I fear that if they do, history will repeat itself, and she will be up to her old tricks in no time at all.

Originally Posted by Tooter

The plan behind the Plan? Umm...Up until she didn't get paid and left...There was no such thing.

Yeah, that's right! Two weeks ago, she denied there was a plan behind the plan. Thanks for the public confirmation, Tippy. Now tell it to John Tiedt!

Originally Posted by JuliaL

Oh no, you would never advise such. You'd just take money from someone who does. And then go on national TV to defend a diet that does advise such. Whatever.

When you lie down with dogs, you get fleas. Tippy is just as guilty as Kimmer because she was Kimmer's spokeshole, on national TV, nonetheless! Not your finest moment, TT!

Originally Posted by CarolynF

You are welcome, ladies..I love me kitties..We need a bit of "cat humor" sometimes.

Can't get enough of cat humor!!

[JoanieOrchard]

Originally Posted by missis36

HAHA, well remember I said Members of KK will get in free, new members will have to pay a fee. Why you ask? To avoid Negative Nancy's and Nay Sayers joining just to start problems. This will be their angle, I assure you. Well I don't assure you, but again my money is on it.

Darn it. I didn't read that part.

Oh well. Either way, it will be entertaining. Wonder how many sock puppets it will have.

[BamaGal]

Kimkins Dangers: Kimkins Hired Blogger Gone Awry??
Kimkins Diet: How You Can Maintain Your Weight Loss With Kimkins

if you look at these two articles---they are the same---it just looks like the first one went through a translation program from another language---

whois data shows a guarded domain.....we've been finding alot of these affiliate sites have protected domain info---like Wouter Van Dyck---we have been contacting affiliates when we are able to get the domain info with contact info displayed.....Rebecca Butler, Hazel Leong for example.....

[susique333]

[quote=Magicsmom



Can't get enough of cat humor!![/QUOTE]

I love Cats too!

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by JoanieOrchard

As recently as a month ago, you didn’t have a problem when people paid 49.95 as long as your money was paid every month. Seems a little suspicious that you didn’t get this compassionate awareness until your money stopped coming in.

It's obvious that you don't 'get it' and that speaks volumes about your character.

She also didn't have a problem when paying members were banned by the hundreds for doing nothing wrong. As to her character, there's nothing to mention about it because she is so devoid of it.

Originally Posted by susique333

QUOTE TTs blog:I ask that you try to have patience for Kimkins members. This is not going to be easy for them should the site close. Many have experienced much success using the plan and will want to continue to use the plan. Please don't make them feel ashamed for that. Instead, if they show up at your site, please encourage them to stay safe and be reasonable with the diet. But don't make them feel they have leprosy because of their dieting preference.:QUOTE

AHEM...in case you didnt notice TT...alot of us WERE Kimkin members and we were accepted with open arms into LCF. We were being banned from KK by the 100s! We DO NOT need a lecture from you on how we're to treat Kimkins members in the future and I find your admonishment insulting. You have NO clue.

Let's see a show of hands among the ex-KK members who came here. When, at any point in time did we make you feel ashamed for having lost weight on ANY plan? When did we show anything but compassion and concern for you, and when did we treat you as if you are a leper for having done KK. For God's sake, when will this woman (TT) let go of the victim mentality?!?

Originally Posted by missis36

It has been said here she is not welcomed here. It has also been said somewhere that she will not be welcomed at Jimmy's either. She has now laid the foundation for a NEED for a safe haven. Ya see?

SO, give it a week, but I'm laying cash on her next post referencing her being quiet because she's been establishing a new site. She will likely attempt to let ex-kk's join for free, but then later down the line promote it as a new diet site and welcome new members for a fee.

I have seen posts to the contrary about her being welcomed at Jimmy's. I am very concerned for them over there.

Do you suppose that her free membership will include the people she banned without a cause? When hell freezes over!

[susique333]

ok one more then I will stop.

"Thank you God for Fishies, and warm laps and bowls of milk and...."