Why the fascination with Kimmer? #11 - Page 4

MissMerize · 12-01-2007, 08:45 PM

2263 posts from agentlefawn. She has been on there a really long time, and seems to lose at a snails pace.

She is currently more than kimmer, but I could see her passing kimmer

HoneyBee2 · 12-01-2007, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Just4Me

And what does clexus news media have to do with it?

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Originally Posted by Chelveston

Why the fascination with Kimmer? #10

What does Mehmet Tayfun have to do with Kimkins?

I posted it last night at around 4am or so, they have now been added to the court documents-
clexus news media is another defendant that has been added to the class action lawsuit along with Heidi Diaz, Kimkins,& Halcyon Web.
Why the fascination with Kimmer? #10

Then I had went to see who owned their website domain on whois and post the information quoted above.
My assumption based on what I saw as their business would be that they were the "tech guys" when Kimmer really had some to "update" her website.

Just4Me · 12-01-2007, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaGal

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Clexus---owns , writes, etc, Joomla--which is the content mangement system that Heidi uses on Kimkins---

from what I can read online about how Joomla works---it stores files, pics, etc for whoever uses it---it is suppose to make running a website much easier---so maybe just maybe---adding them means that they will be able to uncover some behind the scenes things that have been scrubbed, covered up, etc for the lawsuit

in this age of computers--data NEVER really goes away---no matter how bad you try to get rid of it.....

Interesting. Assuming your reasoning is right, why wouldn't a subpoena and/or court order suffice? Maybe because they're in Turkey? How reliable is that information, does anyone know? I wonder if the plaintiffs' argument is that it (clexus) should share liability for its role in storing the pics or facilitating the fraud?

I don't understand how all this works. There's LiquidWeb, which does something, and there's Clexus which through the use of Joomla stores these things that I would have assumed LiquidWeb stored.

ETA: HoneyBee, now I see your post right above mine. If clexus is the "web guys", maybe they were joined as sharing some of the liability. That connection makes a little more sense.

Katinsac · 12-01-2007, 08:48 PM

I don't see much action on the snatty site either...Kimmer (as Kimmer) has not been on sense noon but she could be there as a stock puppet. I see nothing on AmyB or TT.

MissMerize · 12-01-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Katinsac

I don't see much action on the snatty site either...Kimmer (as Kimmer) has not been on sense noon but she could be there as a stock puppet. I see nothing on AmyB or TT.

I was lookin sista, but there's NADA!

She is probably over here combing thesethreads. LOL

Katinsac · 12-01-2007, 08:51 PM

Do you guys think Jimmy will let TT post over there?

Katinsac · 12-01-2007, 08:52 PM

miss.....more power to her!! not much more she can do to "clean up" her site but shut it down, and maybe she has just left on her exit plan and is letting the few left run it until the liquidweb or that other one realize they are not getting paid and shut it down totally and the people are left high and dry trying to figure out why the site does not work anymore....

McLurkypants · 12-01-2007, 08:53 PM

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THANK YOU for answering that!! I really wondered, and I agree that she probably has some money hidden. I am scratching my head though as I wonder why she didn't hide ALL of it. I guess, there again, she thought she was so much smarter.

Too bad the courts don't have a way to monitor any current and future income to make sure she isn't pocketing that money.

Hope the feds do go after her, but I suspect, if they do, it isn't something we will hear anything about. Although with HoneyBee on the case, if there's a way to find out about those kinds of things, she will find it.

Oh, we'll hear about it. And the plaintiffs' attorney in the class action suit is all over her income situation. If I understand correctly, they have actually brought in another law firm that specializes in asset discovery & seizure, very smart move which helped them get what they DID get seized before Hidey spent/hid it all.

BamaGal · 12-01-2007, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JoanieOrchard

You know, although many many people participated in all the digging and researching, Jeanessa's determination to get her 59.95 back and filing a lawsuit is really what got this going. Who says one voice doesn't make a difference? It's amazing what one strong person can do.

you can tell by the attitude of some---ex--Woofy's friends saying it was just another diet gone wrong---no big deal---people just on't want to get involved, apathetic in my opinion

I would join the lawsuit in a heart beat---but I did not join the site nor have I tried Kimkins starvation diet---but I'm still involved in this because it is the right thing to do....

I won't get on my soap box about people's apathy toward their fellow man...but sheesh.....let's just say, I'm a little touchy on THAT subject.....

what can I say...it's the liberal in me...and yeah we do have liberals in the south too....

Magicsmom · 12-01-2007, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Terry ? You and I normally see eye to eye on things but, are you saying that it would have been better for no one to have said anything about TT being there? or is that what you are calling causing trouble?
I ask because not to put you on the spot really Terry, but I have been reading how people responded to Amy's first post and I it seemed that they were responding to only a version of what happened. But maybe they aren't and did read the thread over there, and did feel that those of us who posted were just there for drama.

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HoneyBee, I changed my mind about saying it was wrong to join on account of TT being there. I was wrong to say it. Please forgive me. I was going by the post that Amy made. From her perspective there was drama, but I wasn't there, and I shouldn't have posted an opinion about it.

I do think that wherever TT surfaces, she should be called out. I do feel bad that Amy and her members were caught up in it. In reality, I think that the drama, if there were any, was 100% TT's fault. She knows she is an outcast on the web, and has no business registering and posting anywhere. She is the one who owes Amy an apology, and she is the one who should be sorry for going there. I don't give a rat's behind that she needs support. That is her problem, and she should have thought about it before she alienated the people she now claims to need. There is not one cell of my body or conscience that feels sorry for her.

Katinsac · 12-01-2007, 08:59 PM

As far as Amy's site goes...yes, I signed up to see if TT apologized and said who she was. Yes, you HAD to sign up to even look at the thread she started. Tippy was the problem, not us. She should have come clean when she signed up but we know she would never admit to anything. As far as 100 NEW people signing up just to lurk or cause trouble...maybe now some of those over there who have probably come here as a newbie and tried to distract will see how it feels.

No one here was trying to cause trouble other than to let them know who she was. Apparently, Amy really didn't know either and didn't ask until it was a little too late. That is TT's fault too. Honesty is the best policy. TT, you went about it the wrong way. I agree with Honey...even if we had not gone over there or she had not told us where TT was, as soon as they found out, not all of them would have been happy about it. I don't think any of us really caused an trouble over there but her people did get a little heated.

Amy, you have a big heart and you tried to do the right thing but as you see, in some cases, that does not always work. I hope you site gets back to being a safe haven for KK survivors and everyone can put it behind them but I doubt it will ever be the same. Not only are we curious as to what TT is doing and saying these days, you can bet your bippy that a lot of you members are too and they lurk here too.

JoanieOrchard · 12-01-2007, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Terry ? You and I normally see eye to eye on things but, are you saying that it would have been better for no one to have said anything about TT being there? or is that what you are calling causing trouble?
I ask because not to put you on the spot really Terry, but I have been reading how people responded to Amy's first post and I it seemed that they were responding to only a version of what happened. But maybe they aren't and did read the thread over there, and did feel that those of us who posted were just there for drama.

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But as a general statement- Unless one read the thread there or the posts then to assume any of us/duck/LCF were acting in any way out of line to me is.. well, upsetting.
I am not saying that Amy is lying, but I am saying that one's definition of drama seeker, pot stirrer, or trouble maker, or whatever-may not be the same as yours. But then again it could be, but without reading the posts it would be difficult to say.

I think the term "trouble" is subjective in this case. Trouble for Tippy? Well yes because she was shown as deceiving person yet again.
Trouble for Amy's board? Well, some members there were upset, but upset that TT was there amongst them. I imagine some were upset, because of the fear that people were going to be "haters" and one "non-new" member seemed more upset over us being there in general.

But like I said to Amy, I thought her prior post here on the situation was portraying it as -we/ducks/LCF came in and caused all this drama at her board. I don't feel the posts that I read from us/ducks/LCF were on that level at all, nor were there that many posts from us that I could see. Again, if I missed something please someone pm me or let me know and I will concede.

I don't doubt that Amy felt drama trying to decide what to do with the given situation that she found herself in with her board. But to be honest the drama was caused by Tippy being there pretending to be a Kimkins refugee! I think the situation was the drama not our behavior.

One option of how the situation could have been avoided is- if I hadn't notified anyone here and if we would have not said anything about TT lying over there on the boards. That is a given I realize that and for some that is a viable option for them.
But other options would be-
-TT had been honest and said up front who she was
-Amy would have made TT to immediately post who she was when TT pm'd her
-If TT would have been banned immediately once her identity was known to Amy.
If the part of the perceived drama is the number of new members signing up, since it was mentioned as a negative, then the option of not having members sign-up to read the boards may be another option.

I just got the feeling that, not just me really, but we/ducks/lcf were the Sacrificial lamb for the negative situation that TT being at Amy's board caused and that just didn't sit right with me.
Again, Amy I can empathize with the situation that you had yourself in, but I thought your initial post earlier this afternoon gave an incorrect impression of what "the ducks" had actually done at your board.

If anyone is interested in what I posted over there I would be happy to share them here. I do plan on putting my posts on my blog since the thread was deleted.

Honeybee,

I've gone back and forth several times on how I felt about this, but I was here when you revealed where Flippy was, and I, along with others couldn't wait to get over there and get a piece of her. After all this time, there she was, and I think we used great restraint in what we said to her.

There are many things to consider, and while respecting Amy's goal to provide a safe place, it is a public place - and since many/most of us don't have Kimkins access, we finally had a place where we could say what we wanted to Flippy and actually have the opportunity to possibly get a reply - and we did get a reply.

I don't think anyone holds you in any way responsible for posting that information. There was no way that information would have stayed private. Someone else would have found it and posted it here eventually.

The word was just getting out that she was over there, and I'm sure there would have been many more comments had the thread not been pulled.

I said it before, and I'll say it again, how could there have been any other outcome? It was a no-brainer the very second she posted there that it would generate a LOT of discussion.

Considering all the pent up anger and frustration over the last few months, I think Flippy got off pretty easy.

I'm sorry this is bothering you so.

JoanieOrchard · 12-01-2007, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

portraying it as -we/ducks/LCF came in and caused all this drama at her board.

I think the situation was the drama not our behavior.

I agree! And I said earlier that Flippy opened up the door to the drama. I merely walked through it.

Katinsac · 12-01-2007, 09:02 PM

Actually, Honey...you really didn't say where TT was...you just hinted and we figured it out!!

JoanieOrchard · 12-01-2007, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaGal

what she said!!!!

Clexus---owns , writes, etc, Joomla--which is the content mangement system that Heidi uses on Kimkins---

from what I can read online about how Joomla works---it stores files, pics, etc for whoever uses it---it is suppose to make running a website much easier---so maybe just maybe---adding them means that they will be able to uncover some behind the scenes things that have been scrubbed, covered up, etc for the lawsuit

in this age of computers--data NEVER really goes away---no matter how bad you try to get rid of it.....

Thank you!!

Katinsac · 12-01-2007, 09:05 PM

Ok, all you computer whizzes (sp)....anyone got TT's IP address? Is there a way we can follow her around the net and see where and what she is up to? Not to mention, Kimmer?

Magicsmom · 12-01-2007, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JoanieOrchard

I agree! And I said earlier that Flippy opened up the door to the drama. I merely walked through it.

Opening up the door to drama is something that Flippy does very well. It seems to follow her wherever she goes. I honestly think she thrives on it, so if there isn't any, she will stir it up. She is very narcissistic, and manages to make everything all about her.

Katinsac · 12-01-2007, 09:08 PM

SL...see what has and is happening to TT? Do you want that for yourself too? You know you need love and support, especially with all you have been through in your life. Come clean, join the lawsuit, admit you were duped like the rest of us and you will have a safe haven here and probably anywhere else you want to go. We are here waiting for you....

JoanieOrchard · 12-01-2007, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Katinsac

miss.....more power to her!! not much more she can do to "clean up" her site but shut it down, and maybe she has just left on her exit plan and is letting the few left run it until the liquidweb or that other one realize they are not getting paid and shut it down totally and the people are left high and dry trying to figure out why the site does not work anymore....

I bet she's already working on another site, so it will be in place and ready to go when Kimkins implodes.

Katinsac · 12-01-2007, 09:08 PM

Well....it's all about her now!! And, Kimmer!! What a pair!!

HoneyBee2 · 12-01-2007, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Katinsac

Do you guys think Jimmy will let TT post over there?

Do you mean As TT or under another screen name..... "great white hoax"

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Originally Posted by BamaGal

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what can I say...it's the liberal in me...and yeah we do have liberals in the south too....

Yes ma'am we do, but they are forced to stay in concentrated areas such as University or college towns. LOL

I do admire all you hard work in this bamagal in fighting against the marketing machine Kimmer.

Katinsac · 12-01-2007, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JoanieOrchard

I bet she's already working on another site, so it will be in place and ready to go when Kimkins implodes.

All the more reason for the Duck Brigade to keep going and to find her and put her out of business!! She and Brandon do not deserve to even own a computer (let alone a house and 2 cars!!)

wackytobeme · 12-01-2007, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mamasooze

"perhaps "fascinated" is the word you're looking for?"

No, Cutie, but close--FLABBERGASTED!

To Amy (and her forum) and LCF too-I really don't quite understand the hostility about the "drama" and the shadow on the LCF fascination thread. This is the thread that FINALLY brought about the inevitable end to the Kimpire. I don't know but to me that (no matter what) those that fled the Kimpound ought to be grateful for the posters here that had the foresight and gumption to bring it all to an end, to see it all the way through. Seems like all together should be celebrating rather than getting into "who dissed who and when (haters who hate, etc) "... Good stuff has come from these threads...and those at Amy's should be just a little grateful that at least SOMEBODY stood up to Kimmer and Tippy. Hmmm...Thats why Becky, Christen and Deni are revered here..They stood up to the bully....
back to lurking...I just luvs lurking..

I think it is rather odd that only about 6 weeks ago TT's most ardent recent supporter didn't think to much of her and even called her a liar. Must have missed the post (different forum not LCF) where they made up, because she was sure quick to jump on the "let's give TT a chance bandwagon" which is of course her prerogative, but it just makes you go hmmmm. Also, this person was quick to be the first one to post at another site about the Red dress pic being found, but then later chastizes the people who invested all the time and effort as not having a life.

Well, me I'm just a "pot stirrer" but hey it's a rough job but somebody's gotta do it

JoanieOrchard · 12-01-2007, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by McLurkypants

Oh, we'll hear about it. And the plaintiffs' attorney in the class action suit is all over her income situation. If I understand correctly, they have actually brought in another law firm that specializes in asset discovery & seizure, very smart move which helped them get what they DID get seized before Hidey spent/hid it all.

OMG!

You just don't mess with Jeanessa.

I wish I had you gals around when I was going through my divorce.

12-01-2007, 08:59 PM	#101
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,602 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	As far as Amy's site goes...yes, I signed up to see if TT apologized and said who she was. Yes, you HAD to sign up to even look at the thread she started. Tippy was the problem, not us. She should have come clean when she signed up but we know she would never admit to anything. As far as 100 NEW people signing up just to lurk or cause trouble...maybe now some of those over there who have probably come here as a newbie and tried to distract will see how it feels. No one here was trying to cause trouble other than to let them know who she was. Apparently, Amy really didn't know either and didn't ask until it was a little too late. That is TT's fault too. Honesty is the best policy. TT, you went about it the wrong way. I agree with Honey...even if we had not gone over there or she had not told us where TT was, as soon as they found out, not all of them would have been happy about it. I don't think any of us really caused an trouble over there but her people did get a little heated. Amy, you have a big heart and you tried to do the right thing but as you see, in some cases, that does not always work. I hope you site gets back to being a safe haven for KK survivors and everyone can put it behind them but I doubt it will ever be the same. Not only are we curious as to what TT is doing and saying these days, you can bet your bippy that a lot of you members are too and they lurk here too. __________________ Kat "Once you go quack, you never go back!" ~Dottie "Is it too late to take that back?" The Kimmer!! Kimkins Join The Lawsuit Against Kimkins

12-01-2007, 08:45 PM	#91
MissMerize MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: North East Posts: 1,151 Gallery: MissMerize Stats: 170/162/142 WOE: Meat and Martini Diet, cycled with oopsie rolls Start Date: 3/18/08	2263 posts from agentlefawn. She has been on there a really long time, and seems to lose at a snails pace. She is currently more than kimmer, but I could see her passing kimmer

12-01-2007, 08:48 PM	#94
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,602 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	I don't see much action on the snatty site either...Kimmer (as Kimmer) has not been on sense noon but she could be there as a stock puppet. I see nothing on AmyB or TT.

12-01-2007, 08:51 PM	#96
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,602 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	Do you guys think Jimmy will let TT post over there?

12-01-2007, 08:52 PM	#97
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,602 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	miss.....more power to her!! not much more she can do to "clean up" her site but shut it down, and maybe she has just left on her exit plan and is letting the few left run it until the liquidweb or that other one realize they are not getting paid and shut it down totally and the people are left high and dry trying to figure out why the site does not work anymore....

12-01-2007, 09:02 PM	#104
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,602 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	Actually, Honey...you really didn't say where TT was...you just hinted and we figured it out!!

12-01-2007, 09:05 PM	#106
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,602 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	Ok, all you computer whizzes (sp)....anyone got TT's IP address? Is there a way we can follow her around the net and see where and what she is up to? Not to mention, Kimmer?

12-01-2007, 09:08 PM	#108
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,602 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	SL...see what has and is happening to TT? Do you want that for yourself too? You know you need love and support, especially with all you have been through in your life. Come clean, join the lawsuit, admit you were duped like the rest of us and you will have a safe haven here and probably anywhere else you want to go. We are here waiting for you....

12-01-2007, 09:08 PM	#110
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,602 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	Well....it's all about her now!! And, Kimmer!! What a pair!!