Why the fascination with Kimmer? #11 - Page 37

kakay · 12-05-2007, 10:50 PM

I just have to comment on the tippy apology. She isn't sincere. She has been caught in so many lies and deciet. She did not come clean(if you want to call it that) because she is sorry, she said what she said because she has no where else to turn. She did not leave the kimpire because she FINALLY realized it is a scam and Heidi is a FRAUD. She left because the money ran out, and I aslo believe that Heidi was finished with her and threw her out. I, like so many of the others knew her before the kk thing ever existed. She was mean then and is mean now. She does come across as this nice person but later the true colors come out. SO, go ahead all those who want to believe her, trust her, forgive her, but soon her true colors will once again appear. I agree that if I were Christian, she would have to go back on National TV and admit that she was wrong in blaming every thing on Deni and Christian. I hope that Christian isn't being pulled into her WEB. She has the right to believe her and forgive her but I sure hope she don't let down her guard with her. Tippy is a back stabber and will eventually turn on you and try to turn you on to your friends. I know this for a fact. She would pm me ,and did have me convinced that she was the victim, not with the kk stuff but with things she started on LCF. I felt sorry for her at the time, and I finally saw with my own eyes who the perpertrator really was. Even after she went to the kimpire she in a sneaky way tried to pull me away from my friends, YES, her pm seemed so sincere, but since I knew how she really was I saw right thru it. IF we want to get all religious , the Bible says: You will know them by the FRUIT they bare, and tippy has some ROTTEN FRUIT on her tree. I guess what I am trying to say is, DON"T TRUST HER, Look at her Motives, look at her PAST. I still say she isn't sorry and would still be at the kimpire standing behind a fraud and liar had the money still been rolling in. So that shows where her heart really is, IN THE GREEN. NO matter what we say or what we do those who want to trust in and believe in tippy will do so. They will eventually see that we were right all the time, even tho it is VERY SAD, they will have to see what she really is the SAME HARD way so many of us did.

missis36 · 12-05-2007, 10:50 PM

I'm as lost as you on that. However in Missm's defense, she admits to drinking when she posts heheh

Katinsac · 12-05-2007, 11:02 PM

Missis..hehe

What if the Money is still rolling in for TT...what if the "I'm sorry and I'll join the lawsuit" is all a paid ploy by Kimmer to see what stuff TT can find out for her on what is going on?

ketosis · 12-05-2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Katinsac

Missis..hehe

What if the Money is still rolling in for TT...what if the "I'm sorry and I'll join the lawsuit" is all a paid ploy by Kimmer to see what stuff TT can find out for her on what is going on?

TT is not smart enough to be a mole for Heidi. And Heidi knows that.

TT saw the paypal statement on TV like we all did and got mad because she bought Heidi's crap about cutting pay and stuff.

Remember the PM someone posted from the Kimpound where TT asked Heidi for $5 a new member and Heidi broke down her expenses and said she couldn't afford to pay her that much?

Well how pizzed would you be if you were sticking your neck out and taking the flak without a Kevlar vest for a lying liar that lies and then you find out she lied to you too?

TT is greedy like Heidi but not clever.

HoneyBee2 · 12-05-2007, 11:37 PM

Well then what is SL doing over at kimkins. I told her last time to watch KTLA see how Heidi bought that nice house and had all that money and now SL is working for free or sugar cookies. Cause Heidi doesn't have any new money coming in and she certainly is not going to share her stack of hidden cash with anyone.

HoneyBee2 · 12-05-2007, 11:39 PM

I didn't see Cjane out tonight I even had an avi ready with my head looking back tauting her. LOL
I was expecting to see SL or Kimmer around too with the TT announcement. ::ahumph::

BamaGal · 12-05-2007, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by missis36

I like your plan better

I just kind of had one of those light bulb moments when I was reading one of the blogs, and thought well that's gonna be just swell. We shut her down but she can still pull off her oldest and bestest scam. Great.

not on your life---you personally know that the proper authorities in CA that are in the foster children field KNOW all about this

there's no way in H*** they will ever approve of her having foster kids again...

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Originally Posted by missis36

I'm as lost as you on that. However in Missm's defense, she admits to drinking when she posts heheh

I'll send a pm....

BamaGal · 12-06-2007, 12:08 AM

TT--I get---she is just CYA---self preservation---looking out for her own best interests

SL---I really just do not understand her---the last time she was posting here plenty of y'all were real nice and begging her to leave the dark side----that she would be welcomed here.....

yet one of the blog posts I read today stated she felt ganged up on---

granted some did call her out on her lies about the threatening calls---and others wanted to know her motivation for continuing to support Heidi---but for the most part---I felt everyone was really being gracious to her---some went so far as to plead that she come here with us....

people with a past similiar to SL---gravitate to someone like Heidi for one reason---they are proving something that is missing in that person's life----so what is Heidi providing for SL???

I don't believe it is the money---isn't she working for free?

what do y'all think.....mother figure

, confidant, what?

Bunnymuffin · 12-06-2007, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaGal

what do y'all think.....mother figure

, confidant, what?

Director to the greatest play ever?

HoneyBee2 · 12-06-2007, 12:18 AM

sorry old posts that I never replied too........

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Originally Posted by BamaGal

I've been trying to figure out that comment since it was posted---what my space pages were they referring to---the kk ones---excuse me but my brain is in a fog of late---too many facts, clues etc I'm trying to decipher

you got an angle---

She was referring to a myspace of Kimmers. One of the "friends" there had Brinson enterprises in her employment profile. I can not find any connection to "dr" Mark Brinson, but who knows with Heidi.

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Originally Posted by EasyPeas

In case any of you were packing for the KK 2008 Gathering....you can quit packing, you aren't going anywhere, at least not for a while!

Posted by SL at the Kimpound.....

Re:GATHERING FOR 2008 0 Hour, 00 Minutes ago

Hi everyone...I hate to be the messenger of bad news....but I think it is fair you all be notified as soon as possible so as not cause any more inconvience in your plans and finances. It does not look like this trip will be able to happen, since Tippy is no-longer involved with the site. There were also some concerns that other diet sites have their meet-ups in this same location, and it could cause some conflicts that may have dampened the fun in things.

We do plan on arranging some kind of trip--hopefully a cruise--later this coming year after things settle down a bit....so one way or another there will be a fun meet-up happening, most likely sometime in the summer.

Interesting that Heidi/Kimmer is back on site and posting.... but SL made this announcement and not Heidi herself.... is SL the new PR person for the Kimpound....?
Hmmmm.....

Thanks for the info. It seems that keeping us the enemy is Kimmer's way to avoid answering the tough questions.

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Originally Posted by susique333

Thank you for your thoughts you guys, 9 confirmed dead and 5 more in hospitals injured. I dont know how anyone can go into that mall again, how could you shop? What a nightmare. This mall if 10 minutes from here, we go there often.

So sorry to read about this susi. I know it is so tough when it is that close to home too.

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Originally Posted by Tanner

Im of the opinion : keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
This was a good post

I agree! But always being able to distinguish the difference is important too.

Kisal · 12-06-2007, 12:24 AM

Finally caught up!

If Heidi doesn't lose that house in the lawsuit, she might be able to earn a lot of money from it by reselling it in a few years. The latest predictions I've seen in the L.A. papers say the market is expected to improve by 2010 or 2012. Even if she goes to jail, she could have Brandon or her other son, or even a professional property manager, handle it for her as a rental until she got out. Then she would have a nice place to live, and could "trade up" when the market improved.

Sadly, I have to agree that TT can't be trusted. While I don't know her from years ago, as some here do, I have had the misfortune of knowing other people just like her during my 62 years of life. I feel pity for people like her, but I sure don't want to associate with them!

I have a suspicion that she, and now SL, thought they might somehow "inherit" the Kimpire when Heidi fell, and all that money could be theirs. Just imagine how much TT would have liked to have had the entire income from it, rather than just the pittance Heidi paid her! If TT really has left the site (and I honestly don't believe she has), then maybe SL thinks she can fill Heidi's shoes. The truth is, though, that neither of them appears to have the sociopathic mind to operate such a big scam. Maybe they think they can build it into a good diet, but if that's their goal, I think they'd be better off starting from scratch.

BamaGal · 12-06-2007, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bunnymuffin

Director to the greatest play ever?

so that's the angle huh....

HoneyBee2 · 12-06-2007, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaGal

people with a past similiar to SL---gravitate to someone like Heidi for one reason---they are proving something that is missing in that person's life----so what is Heidi providing for SL???

I don't believe it is the money---isn't she working for free?

what do y'all think.....mother figure

, confidant, what?

You know at first I was going to say -victim- because SL always plays that role here, but when I thought about the PMs between Heidi and SL.... I see a child trying to be pleasing to a parent. Trying to do whatever it takes to get a little pat on the head and an "atta girl". Heidi will be able to play SL like a violin if that is the case, because she will withhold the attention when SL appears to be getting out of line and SL will want so badly for Heidi to shower that attention on her again that she will overlook all the bad she knows is happening.
That is my theory, but I would love to hear others weigh in.

Second guess is Kimmer promised to buy her an oscar after her final performance.

Diana · 12-06-2007, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BobbiOh

Actually, she says she's regretful and says she is willing to cooperate in the lawsuit. Actions are much different than talking. Until she walks the talk, I'm unimpressed.

She is scared a bit. Knowing she is partially responsible. If I change hands then I am a good guy and they will forget... NOT

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Originally Posted by susique333

We TRIED to explain on Kimkins OUR points of view and we were BANNED by TT. Im simply going to return the favor...Im not going to listen to her.

You can't. Between all the lies, fraud, pics.... how can you?

TinaBina · 12-06-2007, 03:34 AM

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did I miss something on the secret room today?

I thought I was all caught up - did I miss something here?

Dottie · 12-06-2007, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaGal

SL---I really just do not understand her---the last time she was posting here plenty of y'all were real nice and begging her to leave the dark side----that she would be welcomed here.....
<snip>
I don't believe it is the money---isn't she working for free?

what do y'all think.....mother figure

, confidant, what?

Y'all know the admins here are volunteers, right?
I can tell you from my perspective: it's not about power or feeling important, it's about genuinely caring about the site and the people on the boards (and behind them) that makes you stay.
Granted the situation at Kimkins is totally different than here (legitimate lol), but I can *sort of* see the desire that SL may have to want to "save" the site and the people there because she genuinely feels "at home" there... that may be why she stays, in spite of everything.
Maybe, maybe not, but I wanted to offer that perspective.

Oh and Good Morning

mrsmenopausal · 12-06-2007, 03:43 AM

I'm way behind. I probably won't be able to completely catch up. It's been crazy here. I've been here a bunch of times in hopes of being able to slip in a little reading. It hasn't worked out that way. I skimmed. I hate doing that.

Anyway,

to the new people.

Happy Birthday Amy!

Prayers for those that need them.

Hopefully I'll have more time after this weekend.

MollyBrown · 12-06-2007, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaGal

TT--I get---she is just CYA---self preservation---looking out for her own best interests

SL---I really just do not understand her---the last time she was posting here plenty of y'all were real nice and begging her to leave the dark side----that she would be welcomed here.....

yet one of the blog posts I read today stated she felt ganged up on---

Delaney is probably very, very confused. She is not like Christin, Deni, Becky, or even Tippy, who have reached their weight goals. SL is still in the midst of her struggle to lose weight. She knows that she has lost weight on KK. And she is probably scared to death that she will quit losing or will get sick beyond losing her beautiful long hair. I am feeling sorry for her just a little. Now she does not even have TT as an ally any more. She was given the job of being a mouthpiece for Kimmer while Heidi was in hiding but Kimmer took back the mike (except when it is convenient for her to filter her words through SL).

MollyBrown · 12-06-2007, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JustKim

Call me cold hearted too - but betrayal does that to a person...We have all struggled with the betrayal. Struggled with the lies, the fraud, the GUILT. Most of you probably can't even fully understand how we feel this has affected the whole core of our being. I can't speak for the others, but I know I am not the same person I used to be. This betrayal goes very deep.

Kim, I feel the same way. It is worse than losing trust in other people. This experience has caused me to lose trust in myself and my own judgment. Like many people, I received some emails and responses directly from "Kimmer" and had come to think of her almost as a "friend." Brrrrrrrrrrrrr.

OhYeahBabe · 12-06-2007, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MollyBrown

Delaney is probably very, very confused. She is not like Christin, Deni, Becky, or even Tippy, who have reached their weight goals. SL is still in the midst of her struggle to lose weight. She knows that she has lost weight on KK. And she is probably scared to death that she will quit losing or will get sick beyond losing her beautiful long hair. I am feeling sorry for her just a little. Now she does not even have TT as an ally any more. She was given the job of being a mouthpiece for Kimmer while Heidi was in hiding but Kimmer took back the mike (except when it is convenient for her to filter her words through SL).

Very insightful post, Molly.

Good morning everyone. I can't believe it's already December 6. So much to do before Christmas!

Diana · 12-06-2007, 04:19 AM

What is this secret place? Can someone PM me...?

gibster · 12-06-2007, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dottie

Y'all know the admins here are volunteers, right?
I can tell you from my perspective: it's not about power or feeling important, it's about genuinely caring about the site and the people on the boards (and behind them) that makes you stay.
Granted the situation at Kimkins is totally different than here (legitimate lol), but I can *sort of* see the desire that SL may have to want to "save" the site and the people there because she genuinely feels "at home" there... that may be why she stays, in spite of everything.
Maybe, maybe not, but I wanted to offer that perspective.

Oh and Good Morning

Which just goes to show that TT had no loyalty or sense of "helping" for any of the remaining members. No money - she's outta there!

AllieCat0817 · 12-06-2007, 05:18 AM

I have not read all of these replies. And this may be WAY far fetched. But in the end I really hope some forgiveness can come about after all of the hurt and anger heals up some. Time heals all wounds- eventually. Forget- no. Forgive- hopefully? I don't just mean TT, SL and whoever else. Maybe in the end Kimmer will get herself together, quit scamming people, and honestly honestly fix herself. It's not up to me to say 'she will NEVER be right'.
Someone stated that in order to forgive, the person who did the wrong needs to do the three Rs (I cant remember what they are but they totally made sense).

You never know what'll happen.....

12-05-2007, 10:50 PM	#1081
kakay Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 293 Gallery: kakay WOE: Atkins Start Date: July 2003	I just have to comment on the tippy apology. She isn't sincere. She has been caught in so many lies and deciet. She did not come clean(if you want to call it that) because she is sorry, she said what she said because she has no where else to turn. She did not leave the kimpire because she FINALLY realized it is a scam and Heidi is a FRAUD. She left because the money ran out, and I aslo believe that Heidi was finished with her and threw her out. I, like so many of the others knew her before the kk thing ever existed. She was mean then and is mean now. She does come across as this nice person but later the true colors come out. SO, go ahead all those who want to believe her, trust her, forgive her, but soon her true colors will once again appear. I agree that if I were Christian, she would have to go back on National TV and admit that she was wrong in blaming every thing on Deni and Christian. I hope that Christian isn't being pulled into her WEB. She has the right to believe her and forgive her but I sure hope she don't let down her guard with her. Tippy is a back stabber and will eventually turn on you and try to turn you on to your friends. I know this for a fact. She would pm me ,and did have me convinced that she was the victim, not with the kk stuff but with things she started on LCF. I felt sorry for her at the time, and I finally saw with my own eyes who the perpertrator really was. Even after she went to the kimpire she in a sneaky way tried to pull me away from my friends, YES, her pm seemed so sincere, but since I knew how she really was I saw right thru it. IF we want to get all religious , the Bible says: You will know them by the FRUIT they bare, and tippy has some ROTTEN FRUIT on her tree. I guess what I am trying to say is, DON"T TRUST HER, Look at her Motives, look at her PAST. I still say she isn't sorry and would still be at the kimpire standing behind a fraud and liar had the money still been rolling in. So that shows where her heart really is, IN THE GREEN. NO matter what we say or what we do those who want to trust in and believe in tippy will do so. They will eventually see that we were right all the time, even tho it is VERY SAD, they will have to see what she really is the SAME HARD way so many of us did. __________________ Famous Banta Babe and PROUD Of It

12-06-2007, 12:08 AM	#1088
BamaGal MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Montevallo, AL Posts: 1,108 Blog Entries: 9 Gallery: BamaGal Stats: 375/160 WOE: Ketogenic-Very high fat Start Date: January 2004	TT--I get---she is just CYA---self preservation---looking out for her own best interests SL---I really just do not understand her---the last time she was posting here plenty of y'all were real nice and begging her to leave the dark side----that she would be welcomed here..... yet one of the blog posts I read today stated she felt ganged up on--- granted some did call her out on her lies about the threatening calls---and others wanted to know her motivation for continuing to support Heidi---but for the most part---I felt everyone was really being gracious to her---some went so far as to plead that she come here with us.... people with a past similiar to SL---gravitate to someone like Heidi for one reason---they are proving something that is missing in that person's life----so what is Heidi providing for SL??? I don't believe it is the money---isn't she working for free? what do y'all think.....mother figure, confidant, what? __________________ Kimkins Scam Kimkins Class Action Lawsuit Diary of a Mad Housewife Back Across The Line my personal blog

12-06-2007, 12:24 AM	#1091
Kisal Senior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 804 Gallery: Kisal Stats: 350/255.8/160 WOE: Atkins '72 Start Date: October 15, 2004	Finally caught up! If Heidi doesn't lose that house in the lawsuit, she might be able to earn a lot of money from it by reselling it in a few years. The latest predictions I've seen in the L.A. papers say the market is expected to improve by 2010 or 2012. Even if she goes to jail, she could have Brandon or her other son, or even a professional property manager, handle it for her as a rental until she got out. Then she would have a nice place to live, and could "trade up" when the market improved. Sadly, I have to agree that TT can't be trusted. While I don't know her from years ago, as some here do, I have had the misfortune of knowing other people just like her during my 62 years of life. I feel pity for people like her, but I sure don't want to associate with them! I have a suspicion that she, and now SL, thought they might somehow "inherit" the Kimpire when Heidi fell, and all that money could be theirs. Just imagine how much TT would have liked to have had the entire income from it, rather than just the pittance Heidi paid her! If TT really has left the site (and I honestly don't believe she has), then maybe SL thinks she can fill Heidi's shoes. The truth is, though, that neither of them appears to have the sociopathic mind to operate such a big scam. Maybe they think they can build it into a good diet, but if that's their goal, I think they'd be better off starting from scratch. __________________ I constantly walk into a room and I don't remember why. But for some reason, I think there's going to be a clue in the fridge. -- Caroline Rhea

12-05-2007, 10:50 PM	#1082
missis36 hater detective Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Margaritaville Posts: 1,441 Gallery: missis36 Stats: Holy crap/OMG/hello hot mama! WOE: Atkins/low carb Start Date: 7-20-07	I'm as lost as you on that. However in Missm's defense, she admits to drinking when she posts heheh

12-05-2007, 11:02 PM	#1083
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,610 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	Missis..hehe What if the Money is still rolling in for TT...what if the "I'm sorry and I'll join the lawsuit" is all a paid ploy by Kimmer to see what stuff TT can find out for her on what is going on?

12-05-2007, 11:37 PM	#1085
HoneyBee2 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In Your Bonnet Posts: 2,407 Blog Entries: 4 Gallery: HoneyBee2 Stats: Bored Housewife...Right :) WOE: Honey	Well then what is SL doing over at kimkins. I told her last time to watch KTLA see how Heidi bought that nice house and had all that money and now SL is working for free or sugar cookies. Cause Heidi doesn't have any new money coming in and she certainly is not going to share her stack of hidden cash with anyone.

12-05-2007, 11:39 PM	#1086
HoneyBee2 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In Your Bonnet Posts: 2,407 Blog Entries: 4 Gallery: HoneyBee2 Stats: Bored Housewife...Right :) WOE: Honey	I didn't see Cjane out tonight I even had an avi ready with my head looking back tauting her. LOL I was expecting to see SL or Kimmer around too with the TT announcement. ::ahumph::

12-06-2007, 03:43 AM	#1097
mrsmenopausal Still hasn't done the dishes Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Obviously not in the kitchen doing the dishes. Posts: 1,978 Gallery: mrsmenopausal Stats: O M G! / ugh /hubba hubba WOE: trying to transition	I'm way behind. I probably won't be able to completely catch up. It's been crazy here. I've been here a bunch of times in hopes of being able to slip in a little reading. It hasn't worked out that way. I skimmed. I hate doing that. Anyway, to the new people. Happy Birthday Amy! Prayers for those that need them. Hopefully I'll have more time after this weekend.

12-06-2007, 04:19 AM	#1101
Diana Allergic to Carbs- I break out in Fat! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Anderson, Indiana Posts: 33,754 Gallery: Diana Stats: 176.5/138.8/134 (5'3") WOE: Atkins Start Date: 8/11/03 Restart 4/08	What is this secret place? Can someone PM me...?