Why the fascination with Kimmer? #11

[EasyPeas]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

My guess would be that her attorney advised her to do it. She is smart enough to know she should pay taxes, but I am sure the lawyer had to pry it out of her chubby, sugar cookie with sprinkles sticky hand!

I agree, Heidi's lawyer probably advised her to pay the taxes before the deposition. He probably knew it was likely her assets would be attached and advised her to get the money out for taxes before that happened.

Had Heidi cared about the IRS piece prior to that, she would have already made estimated tax deposits in June, and again in Sept for money received up to that point and including the big influx from the WW article (due dates are mid-April, mid-June, mid-Sept, and mid-Jan ).

Also, the 700K deposit would have been the appropriate deposit for a net taxable income (after all expenses, deductions, etc) of 2 million dollars.

[LowcarbFan]

I have read about Heidi and Tippy planning to open a new site when the kimkins board folds. Someone that is involved with the case should ask the class action suit lawyer about asking the judge to order Heidi and Tippy to not open up another diet site again. I know that Kevin Trudeau (the infomercial guy) was ordered by a judge banning him from infomercials. He has violated the court order and a contempt of court action has been filed.

Here is what happen to Trudeau:

The FTC first sued Trudeau in 1998, alleging that he made false and unsubstantiated claims for hair growth, memory, and weight loss products sold through infomercials. In 2003, the FTC challenged Trudeau’s marketing of Coral Calcium Supreme and Biotape, a purported pain-relief product. To settle the FTC’s charges, in 2004 Trudeau paid $2 million and agreed to a court order banning him from infomercials, with a narrow exemption for infomercials for books and other publications that specifically required that Trudeau not misrepresent the contents of the books or publications. The contempt action announced today alleges that Trudeau violated that court order by deceptively claiming in his infomercials that the book being advertised establishes a weight-loss protocol that is “easy” to follow, and that once the protocol ends, consumers can eat what they want without regaining weight.

The contempt action was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois.

The FTC works for the consumer to prevent fraudulent, deceptive, and unfair business practices and to provide information to help spot, stop, and avoid them. To file a complaint in English or Spanish, click Redirect to Secure Web Server or call 1-877-382-4357. The FTC enters Internet, telemarketing, identity theft, and other fraud-related complaints into Consumer Sentinel, a secure, online database available to more than 1,600 civil and criminal law enforcement agencies in the U.S. and abroad. For free information on a variety of consumer topics, click FTC Bureau of Consumer Protection - Consumer Information.

There is a number and contact information to complain to the FTC and maybe get the ball rolling? Maybe they can keep them from doing this ever again. And in my opinion, if Tippy is already saying she is banding together with Heidi to start this all over again it just shows what kind of person she is. She doesn't care about the fraud and will work with Heidi again. How despicable is that? It does seem that they can barr them from making money on the internet again, afterall, Trudeau did much of what Heidi and Tippy both did. I still think they need to add Tippy to the lawsuit as well to give back the money shes made via Kimkins since she joined knowing full well that fraud was occuring. I know for a fact she has lied many times over, both on the TV show when she made people believe she lost all her weight on Kimkins (when she lost the majority of it on Atkins) and when shes told people things that I really hope comes out. She is just as bad as Heidi is, therefore should be held just as responsible.

[WildAngel6]

Here's the UK Kimkins site:

Kimkins Diet

It mentions Christin, and still has Deni's picture up.

If you read the page, it really sounds like it was put up by someone who doesn't speak the Queen's English very well.

"Numbers of famous celebrities like Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, Beyonce and many more are using Kimkins, and they are so excited about using it!"

"Kimkins was first launched in the year 2000. It is mainly developed by Kimmer. This person himselh weighted 318 pounds! Using her self invented method, she took out 198 pounds. Can you believe this?"

Interestingly enough, there is also a section entitled, "Potential medical risks with Kimkins".

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by LowcarbFan

There is a number and contact information to complain to the FTC and maybe get the ball rolling? Maybe they can keep them from doing this ever again. And in my opinion, if Tippy is already saying she is banding together with Heidi to start this all over again it just shows what kind of person she is. She doesn't care about the fraud and will work with Heidi again. How despicable is that? It does seem that they can barr them from making money on the internet again, afterall, Trudeau did much of what Heidi and Tippy both did. I still think they need to add Tippy to the lawsuit as well to give back the money shes made via Kimkins since she joined knowing full well that fraud was occuring. I know for a fact she has lied many times over, both on the TV show when she made people believe she lost all her weight on Kimkins (when she lost the majority of it on Atkins) and when shes told people things that I really hope comes out. She is just as bad as Heidi is, therefore should be held just as responsible.

I believe there is an e-petition to the FTC you can sign up to that asks them to investigate Kimkins. Someone else (probably Honey Bee) has a link to the page.

[jimzgrl]

MissM-Listening to you right now! Sounds great!

[HoneyBee2]

Wow- I feel so behind for some reason- I hated to leave in our discussion of how we would handle the TT issue, but I had an appointment and then when I came back "gremlins" had invaded my Internet services and I am just getting back up and running.

Jeanessa darlin', love back atcha and I am glad my post was somewhat clear. My comments were not directed at your or Becky's post, but my way of saying- I agree with you both on the lawsuit issue and the hope that TT would get involved on our side of things.-
I also agree with not actively searching for TT. But I was attempting to say, albeit poorly in my first post, that other members, not myself, may come in and just be reading the whole TT posting at Amy's and would respond. If this happened, whether they supported TT or not, I would understand them bringing her and the topic up again, not to imply you would not Nessa, but to clarify that I would.
I just felt it needed to be said that if TT's words or involvement was brought up again- that it was not that the "ducks" were actively searching TT out still, or that the thread was not needed, and we were,out of boredom, searching for people who were no longer with kimkins. But that it would, in all likelihood, be due to people dealing with recent events. I didn't say it for myself but more for a let's all allow a little "wiggle room" for those who may comment after reading the posts for the first time. My long version to your "play nice". LOL

The comments on the IP address or husband's login threw me for a moment because I knew I hadn't said anything along those lines and I was just itching to get this computer going so I could see if I had typed in my sleep or something.
But now I see Kat said she had made the comment and meant no harm or didn't mean to offend anyone. Understood Kat

I personally have not been searching for where TT went or what she is doing on the internet or otherwise.- Just so that is clear, to anyone who just sees me posting findings, because I have no big ax to grind with TT.- But I do have full intentions of researching leads, searching for additional information regarding kimmer and kimkins and basically noting things as I have done since I was banned.
Now, if TT or any of her lies, get caught in the cross hairs of searching for information, or new facts come out ,regarding her involvement in kimkins, while doing my research..... I of course will do the right thing.

Ok- big hug moment to all y'all here!

My post just looks like a big ole huggieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee love fest! I didn't mean to fawn so much.

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

I believe there is an e-petition to the FTC you can sign up to that asks them to investigate Kimkins. Someone else (probably Honey Bee) has a link to the page.

It was about time again for my link post anyway wasn't it Terry..LOL
IMPORTANT LINKS: TO HELP FIGHT BACK and SOME TO GET YOUR HEALTH BACK
Sign the petition
Request for Kimkins Investigation Petition
This petition goes to the Federal Trade Commission, Better Business Bureau, and the California Attorney General.

Contact the Federal Trade Commission
Federal Trade Commission - Offices and Bureaus
“The FTC enters Internet, telemarketing, identity theft and other fraud-related complaints into Consumer Sentinel®, a secure, online database available to hundreds of civil and criminal law enforcement agencies worldwide.”

Internet Crime Complaint Center
Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3)
The IC3 is co-sponsored by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C)

Lawsuit
Kimkinslawsuit’s Weblog

IRS tax fraud
To make a report to the IRS that Heidi Diaz may be committing tax fraud-
How Do You Report Suspected Tax Fraud Activity?

BBB
To do a review at the Better Business Bureau
Company Report
If you feel that Kimkins/Kimmer/Heidi Diaz has not been truthful in advertising and is dangerous and file a complaint if the situation applies. A review first though.

Office of the Inspector General
To Report Possible Social Security fraud
Report Fraud to the Hotline

Address and Contact Information for Kimkins that is needed for the forms
Kimkins Address-
529 North McKinley Street 104-309
Corona,
CA 92879 Phone-(951) 258-3976
LINKS TO HELP YOU FIND A HEALTHIER YOU:

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A Beginners guide to lowcarbing
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[McLurkypants]

Originally Posted by SMP

As I understand it, the lawyers only had the RIGHT to seize $1.6 million, not that they HAD seized $1.6 million. So just to keep from giving it back (and to avoid major jail time in order to show us how smart she is), Heidi let the gov't have it. Smooth move, Heidi! At least it showed you were listening to us!
The way I see it, her pillowcase is just about empty, but she's got a nice house and new car, plus pulled off a scam that ensures her place in Hoaxes of the Year. And she got to thumb her nose at her detractors at the same time. Wow! That's her biggest and best scam to date!
Now what? The gov't is sitting on the money paid as legal taxes, and I doubt if the plaintiffs will ever see a penny of it. They can take her house and car as part payment (take the mattress and pillowcase, too, guys, if you want to be thorough), but in the end, she'll likely keep her freedom, possibly her car, computer ... and the knowledge of how to run another multi$ scam.
Maybe we had better start charging Heidi for all the free gratis advice. What do you think, Heidi?

Her Paypal receivables account with $1.2M has been attached via the writ of attachment. That means it's frozen and NOBODY can touch it, pending the outcome of the litigation. She apparently saw the writing on the wall and did the refunds, IRS payment, and house purchase to dissipate assets from some of her other accounts in the month or so before the writ was obtained.

We know being cut off from all her stockpiles has put the hurt on her, as evidenced by the words of her fleeing admins TT and SL who I think have both said that they were asked to take pay cuts, and I believe they said the money eventually stopped, because of the lawsuit, Hidey told them.

Also as for that nice house, it has a lien on it as a result of the writ of attachment, so she can't do a thing with it until the lawsuit is over.

I totally agree that Hidey has taken her cues all along from this very forum.

Hiya Hidey!

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by Locarb4me

What? You didn't see the post where Missmerize told us all clearly to make these hats

and she would be contacting us via the airwaves shortly??? Where have you been? Sheesh. You better get busy. Maybe she will re-broadcast out of mercy.

Love the hats....sorry I missed the party
MissM I have not listened to your broadcast but I will. Thanks!

Originally Posted by AllisonB

Has it already been posted that Brian Pugh is the clerk from Heidi's attorney's office who signed the proof of service on the demurrer?

I did see that and I wondered if that was the same Pugh on the LLC information or at least was the person implied. I had even went back to Heidi's other court docs to see if his name had come up then.

Originally Posted by 2big4mysize

Did Jimmy or anybody check with the university to be sure she is real? not to cast dispersions on this person's character but we had a fake "student" ask to interview folk on another forum I used to belong to. She got busted when she did have a basic knowlegde of the material she said she was writing her thesis on.

Wow, I was thinking the same thing. I see that in other posts Becky said the email was legit, but I would ask that Jimmy or one designated person contact her and verify some key aspects. Course, professor etc...

Originally Posted by CarolynF

This is an interesting post from the PI: He didn't get much credit for his video that he so graciously shared with the tv folks..hmmmm...

The Alliance Report: Out of the Loop RE: KimKins/Heidi Diaz

Thank makes me sad for him, because he read as such a kind person when I looked at his website/blog on the case. I did notice in the last KTLA report, that yet again "the Chipper" said that after they had investigated... they found the red dress woman on the internet....Ummm.. I don't remember it that way. But out of sheer relief of seeing Heidi in the deposition clip, I didn't comment on the oversight. I don't think its fair to not even mention the PI or his agency.

Originally Posted by Chouter

I'm quite sure there's a more appropriate area on this board to introduce myself, but I've spent the past week neglecting personal hygiene, ignoring my family, and forgoing sleep as I read post after post, my jaw dropping further south with each amazing discovery and disclosure. Frankly, I am too exhausted to find the right place to jump in and say, "Hi."

All I wanted was a few diet buddies. But hey, I have a duck, so until I learn my way around, what the heck.

Hi, y'all.

Hi and welcome.

Originally Posted by Just4Me

So $2.3M accounted for. I thought the highest estimate I'd seen on these threads had been $2M (could be wrong, I can't remember! lol ).

Given her track record with honest (), this makes me suspect she's got some $$ squirreled/hidden away. Unless I'm VERY off on that $2M estimate I thought I remembered.

I don't know-But maybe all the estimates were on the low end is my first thought.
The money that the KTLA showed was the *paypal* account only, and it read as 1.2 million taken in for June 2007 alone.
A good point that Becky made was that many of the new members during that time were brought in by Woman's World magazine and a large number of the new members were not computer savvy, so a paypal account was not used but checks were mailed to Heidi.
So who knows what Heidi could have done with that money or if it is accounted for at all. I think we will be shocked when the total figure is finally confirmed.

Originally Posted by ketosis

Or Brandon under the hot tub with a serving spoon in the dark of night?

Originally Posted by missis36

She's prolly gonna kill me when she sees it. Just in case I don't post again ya'll will know where I am. But dang that made me giggle.

Missi if you are alive, please check in. LOL
Don't make me take on a murder case too, now.

[sherlynn9]

Originally Posted by McLurkypants

We know being cut off from all her stockpiles has put the hurt on her, as evidenced by the words of her fleeing admins TT and SL who I think have both said that they were asked to take pay cuts, and I believe they said the money eventually stopped, because of the lawsuit, Hidey told them.

Where did I miss that SL was a fleeing admin?

Thanks, Sheryl

[ketosis]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

My guess would be that her attorney advised her to do it. She is smart enough to know she should pay taxes, but I am sure the lawyer had to pry it out of her chubby, sugar cookie with sprinkles sticky hand!

I am guessing it went kind of like this:

Lawyer: Um kimmer er Heidi er whatever, first you have to pay me ok. Lets see ummmm wow I better take about $100,000 as a retainer and um oh wow what is in that pillowcase? Ducks? What ducks? Oh, like Tony Soprano hiding the cash in the duck food? I get it.

Now why don't we send those nasty folks at the IRS some as well. Oh say $750,000 for a make nice gesture to keep them from seizing everything? Ms Diaz? Ms Diaz don't cry. No don't do that. Um let go of the sack of cash Ms Diaz.

Well how about this to make you feel better. Let's consider it a down payment on your stay in the "big house". Yes that does sound lovely doesn't it. Sugar cookies? Oh I am sure they serve sugar cookies in the I mean your new "big house".

Now how much does that leave you. Uh uh. That's all? Who? Cap'n MOrgan? Is he um an employee of scamkins? Your partner? Wow you paid him a lot didnt you Ms Diaz.

OK now what about legitimate expenses for the business. Employee's? I see. And they what? They took salary cuts? Did they know about the bags of duck food er I mean cash? Wow. Well those wages don't add up to much. What else did you spend money on?

Ms Diaz I don't think the IRS considers sugar cookies as a valid business expense. No. Ok well we can try but I really ah don't think that will fly.

Fly. It is a figure of speech. What Ms Diaz? Ducks? Yes um Ducks fly. Ms Diaz please don't cry anymore you are getting that sack of cash all soggy.

[ketosis]

Originally Posted by EasyPeas

I agree, Heidi's lawyer probably advised her to pay the taxes before the deposition. He probably knew it was likely her assets would be attached and advised her to get the money out for taxes before that happened.

Had Heidi cared about the IRS piece prior to that, she would have already made estimated tax deposits in June, and again in Sept for money received up to that point and including the big influx from the WW article (due dates are mid-April, mid-June, mid-Sept, and mid-Jan ).

Also, the 700K deposit would have been the appropriate deposit for a net taxable income (after all expenses, deductions, etc) of 2 million dollars.

And given that heidi is a lying liar who lies we can assume her actual take was far in excess of that.

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by ketosis

I am guessing it went kind of like this:

Lawyer: Um kimmer er Heidi er whatever, first you have to pay me ok. Lets see ummmm wow I better take about $100,000 as a retainer and um oh wow what is in that pillowcase? Ducks? What ducks? Oh, like Tony Soprano hiding the cash in the duck food? I get it.

Now why don't we send those nasty folks at the IRS some as well. Oh say $750,000 for a make nice gesture to keep them from seizing everything? Ms Diaz? Ms Diaz don't cry. No don't do that. Um let go of the sack of cash Ms Diaz.

Well how about this to make you feel better. Let's consider it a down payment on your stay in the "big house". Yes that does sound lovely doesn't it. Sugar cookies? Oh I am sure they serve sugar cookies in the I mean your new "big house".

Now how much does that leave you. Uh uh. That's all? Who? Cap'n MOrgan? Is he um an employee of scamkins? Your partner? Wow you paid him a lot didnt you Ms Diaz.

OK now what about legitimate expenses for the business. Employee's? I see. And they what? They took salary cuts? Did they know about the bags of duck food er I mean cash? Wow. Well those wages don't add up to much. What else did you spend money on?

Ms Diaz I don't think the IRS considers sugar cookies as a valid business expense. No. Ok well we can try but I really ah don't think that will fly.

Fly. It is a figure of speech. What Ms Diaz? Ducks? Yes um Ducks fly. Ms Diaz please don't cry anymore you are getting that sack of cash all soggy.

[HoneyBee2]

Is it old news and I am just noticing this or is it truly new?!?!?

At the top of each page there is a link back tab!!!! Woo Hoo!!!
I love it we can share with dig etc...

[Sheridan]

Originally Posted by BamaGal

this is the yard stick that is used to measure culpability where mental illness is noted--

"not [be] responsible for criminal conduct if at the time of such conduct as a result of mental disease or defect he lacks substantial capacity either to appreciate the criminality (wrongfulness) of his conduct or to conform his conduct to the requirements of law."

In Heidi's case her actions speak for themselves---she knowingly and willfully engaged in fraudulent activities---attempting to hide her assets speaks volumes--in other words she was fully aware of wat she was doing was wrong

despite having a long history of mental defect--- this won't be valid defense of her actions

according to the above link---Heidi is reported to have served jail time for scams before--maybe some of our legal eagles can elaborate if these past deeds will come back to haunt her--

"Heidi is a 49-year-old mentally ill woman. She has served jail time for her cons in the past. This is just her latest (and most successful con) in a long string of evil behavior."

"Heidi has legally been on disability for mental illness since before Brandon was born. She has conned the IRS, the Social Security Administration, the foster care people, her own brother and anyone who will give her money. She has ripped off her ex-husband, impersonated his wife at their bank and many other scams."

I know in some cases they are admissible if only to show a pattern of behavior---from the looks of things she definitely has a pattern of behavior where scams are concerned

Heidi herself has left written proof several times and in several places showing that she knew exactly what she was doing. Becky's blog has evidence from Heidi's emails that she intended to escape in the nick of time if it got to that point is just one example.

Originally Posted by Chouter

I'm quite sure there's a more appropriate area on this board to introduce myself, but I've spent the past week neglecting personal hygiene, ignoring my family, and forgoing sleep as I read post after post, my jaw dropping further south with each amazing discovery and disclosure. Frankly, I am too exhausted to find the right place to jump in and say, "Hi."

All I wanted was a few diet buddies. But hey, I have a duck, so until I learn my way around, what the heck.

Hi, y'all.

Glad you've joined us!

Originally Posted by WildAngel6

Here's the UK Kimkins site:

Kimkins Diet

It mentions Christin, and still has Deni's picture up.

If you read the page, it really sounds like it was put up by someone who doesn't speak the Queen's English very well.

"Numbers of famous celebrities like Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, Beyonce and many more are using Kimkins, and they are so excited about using it!"

"Kimkins was first launched in the year 2000. It is mainly developed by Kimmer. This person himselh weighted 318 pounds! Using her self invented method, she took out 198 pounds. Can you believe this?"

Interestingly enough, there is also a section entitled, "Potential medical risks with Kimkins".

Not only that, but there's several Russian Bride/Groom pics and testimonials on there, too.


ketosis, you're a silly!

[Bunnymuffin]

Hello glitch.

[Bunnymuffin]

You know this has bugged me about "the Chipper" for a while, taking credit for all the hard work that other people did, I know the ends may justify the means, but what a jerkball!

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Thank makes me sad for him, because he read as such a kind person when I looked at his website/blog on the case. I did notice in the last KTLA report, that yet again "the Chipper" said that after they had investigated... they found the red dress woman on the internet....Ummm.. I don't remember it that way.

Missis, in my house that would go on the list of "THINGS SHE'LL DISCUSS IN THERAPY ONE DAY". Bunny boy has one that has to be at least five miles long, it's no fun for an introvert to be raised by a pack of wild extroverts.

[Sherrie_lc]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

I am not sure why CNN is showing up on anti-kk blogs. You are not the first to have them as visitors. Could anyone else have a clue as to why?????

Perhaps people are using the search engine on CNN to search for kimkins on the web.