Why the fascination with Kimmer? #11

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by anipomoni

I hate to say it like this, but in the grand scheme of things, you guys really didn't do much. Nothing positive anyway. You lent credibility to a fraudulent and unhealthy diet (unintentianally of course), you drove business into Heidi's pocket. If it wasn't for people here, you would probably still be on kk.
Actually, if people here stopped searching for the truth every time someone wrote something negative about LCF in their journal, we probably wouldn't have gotten 5 pages in on the #1 Fascination thread.

I even remember one of you complaining of not getting all the $$ you were entitled to for affiliate leads. This was AFTER the fraud. Uhhh...hello? It's money from a fraud, why would you want it? Is that the Christian thing?

But no one brings this stuff up, because everyone here is truly not as mean as they are portrayed. Umm...except me I guess.

And don't count me as one of the "you" here. Because I am not. I am way too blunt and don't do much but lurk here (and sit on my fingers), so my views and especially the way I say them, should in no way reflect anyone here. They are all much nicer than me.



Don't forget that people here were attacked at every single, solitary point on this journey. From the very beginning we were haters because we were questioning the pictures. If we (I am including myself here even though I did nothing) just backed away b/c someone said something nasty in her journal.....well, a lot of people would still be following (and working for) kimkins.

[and now I really have to catch up]
ETA: Ok I really should read on before I respond. Just read cleo's post and she totally said what I meant...but much better

Thank you for your words on this subject anipimoni. I still am somewhat puzzled over the recent posts by Becky over at jimmy's forum. They appeared to me as if they were more to do with an agenda than venting of emotions, with even a check list of not "to do's" but "I've done"...no less.

But wait Mclurky just posted that there was some legal updates, so let's see what that could mean.

Originally Posted by McLurkypants

Aha! So Heidi wasn't even required to show any reason to have the judge removed. All she had to do was file the request under 170.6.

Well, don't you know the judges LOVE that. I'm sure that bought her lots of goodwill from the judicial system <===sarcasm===

There are a few other tidbits to be seen on the court website, but I have learned that it's best not to report stuff from there to here tooooo quickly, because Heidi apparently watches THIS site much more carefully than she watches the court's online docket!

Thanks McLurky, I was meaning to get over to "Riverside" the last few days, because I thought maybe there could have been some recent updates.

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by WOOFY

Just dropping in to catch up....lots of reading to do. My grades posted today, all A's!! Woo hoo

Okay, I think I left off on page 55...LOL

Go WOOFY!!!!! Outstanding job on all "A's" a 4.0 certainly feels good doesn't it!

[michelemomof2]

Originally Posted by MissMerize

I can't take full credit for the cats, I'm just the pooper scooper, and the fluffer

Love the video!

[Sweeteater]

Originally Posted by MissMerize

Try this here

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Goo job! Loved the kitties. Left a comment.

[Barbara B]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

ITA! We cannot go after everyone out there who is touting what we consider to be a dangerous diet program. There are too many of them. It's a shame, but people are free to join these plans if they want. The difference I see with Kimmer is that her entire plan is based on fraud. It was not tried and found to be true in that she didn't lose weight on it as she claimed to. While the MCD lady is doing something we don't agree with, it's not up to us to take her out.

I don't accept for a minute that LCF people tried to "take her out". The original concern was that this was Heidi's backup site, just to set the history straight. Then, when the Getafreelancer item was found, Kimkins website came up again. The problem when you search for the truth is that, like any detective, you may run into false leads. That doesn't mean you won't check them out. Because then you would not be doing your job. That is all this thread has ever been about -- trying to find pieces of the fraud. Who is to presume to tell this thread when to stop and go no further in tracking down part of the mystery? Who makes that decision?

If someone asked you months ago whether you thought the success stories on KK were pictures from Russian mail order bride sites, someone would have responded that you had now totally lost it and 'gone too far'.

Also, we may have done a service for Bonnie by suggesting she might think about not emulating a site that is being investigated for fraud. It might be beneficial for her to know the many health issues that could arise on a VLCD diet, information I'm sure was transmitted to her by many posters and bloggers from LCF.

[Barbara B]

Originally Posted by marnaewilson

And in fact, to answer my own question, the Chicken diet does have some fruit and vegetables in it. So if she doesn't have a plan behind the plan like Kimmer did, maybe it won't make people sick. But personally, I'm still skeptical about it being either healthy or sustainable. Wonder if the loss is maintainable, too, since it's still untested in many ways.

Bonnie states that it's been 6 months since she lost the weight. That's a little less than convincing that it's possible to maintain over a long-term period.

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by Zbunny

Oh I'm not saying that Retin-A doesn't work, I'm saying that it would rip my face off if I used the strength she touted (I can't remember the number now, but it was much stronger than I've ever heard of people using) AND she combined it with a harsh face scrub (I think St. Ives Apricot Scrub was the one she said she used). I may be wrong, but to me this seems like really bad advice -- intentionally really bad advice. Like someone who wanted to hurt others? KWIM? Especially in light of the fact that her face is NOT that of the MILF she claimed to be.

Yes you have to be careful using the scrub over NEW skin cells (red or pink skin tone). It's too abrasive.

Also Heidi said that the Retin-A helped with sagging skin ---- nope it doesn't help with that. The reason skin sags on the face and neck is lack of muscle tone. Retin-A and Renova only gets rid of the dead skin cells that tend to accumulate monthly. Skin cell turnover takes place every 28 days and if you don't get rid of the top layers the new cells can't come to the surface. It's almost like an onion that hasn't been peeled. The outside is rough and flaky and after peeling it is smooth and shiny. If you don't exfoliate your skin will start getting a grey thick look about it - and your pores and wrinkles will look larger. So yes it's a good idea to exfoliate on a regular basis but be prepared for excessive peeling in the beginning if you've never done it before. Your skin will look worse before it looks better.

There is no way she had been using Retin-A prior to her deposition - from the looks of things her skin appears in poor shape. Maybe she will go in for a surgeon's chemical peel. Then you have to hide at least 10-14 days before it has healed.

[HoneyBee2]

So it appears an update to the case and I am not sure if the update is the same person as the one I referenced here in thread 10- Why the fascination with Kimmer? #10
Because the name is off so maybe not, but that could explain why there doesn't appear to be anything out there in searches based on the court doc. spelling or it could just mean he doesn't get around much....

If they are the same then it would appear that all that erased information over at kimkins will have been all for nothing. But we knew that.....

[Sheridan]

Originally Posted by MomToEli

Another thing is really bothering me ... please tell me just what has made the MCD lady all so sweet and innocent and cuddly all of a sudden? Did she start to disclose just what her diet entails BEFORE some schmuck has to fork out $60 or $100 or however many non-refundable dollars? And is her diet, or is her diet NOT safe? Has she produced a medical expert suddenly? Frankly, all I've seen has been a illwritten post from her sil - and that is questionable, as the information in it may well be proven false anyway - sort of like her addresses. Oh, and the other thing is we were told she is a cancer survivor. Well now, THAT should give her a free pass.

Oh, and I've seen the copy floating around of her "diet". I've read her comments about "if you want this BAD enough, you'll stick to this, and if you don't you must not want it BAD enough" comments. Wow. Sounds just like what you all have said Heidi says ... You all are convinced she is true and who she says she is ... Why is that? Wasn't there a time you ALSO believed Heidi was who she said she was and that her story was true and she was the lady in the lawn chair?

Gals, the MCD lady uses addresses that don't exist. Phone numbers that don't belong to candle companies. Uses the same exact pay me before I show you my secrets tactics. Is promoting low carb/low fat/ low calorie/based on her say so dieting.

Hello? Anybody home?

Originally Posted by Barbara B

I don't accept for a minute that LCF people tried to "take her out". The original concern was that this was Heidi's backup site, just to set the history straight. Then, when the Getafreelancer item was found, Kimkins website came up again. The problem when you search for the truth is that, like any detective, you may run into false leads. That doesn't mean you won't check them out. Because then you would not be doing your job. That is all this thread has ever been about -- trying to find pieces of the fraud. Who is to presume to tell this thread when to stop and go no further in tracking down part of the mystery? Who makes that decision?

If someone asked you months ago whether you thought the success stories on KK were pictures from Russian mail order bride sites, someone would have responded that you had now totally lost it and 'gone too far'.

Thank you, Barbara!

Originally Posted by Violet Skye

Sheridan, Zilla, we're not gray. We're PLATINUM! Not the more common platinum blonde, but pure platinum. Or is it silver tabby? I dunno for sure, but Therapy Cat will be able to help.

*Joins in the group hug*

I have that Morticia Addams thing goin' on. My husband sometimes calls me the Silver Streak, lol.

Platinum? Platinum *always* sounds good.

[Diana]

Ok now I am mad.... WHAT IS UP WITH TT?? Now she is attacking Terry? Typo Terrible wife can't decide which program she is on, then flees Kimkins cause she can't take the pressure- all the lies she has told, she is not as good as kimmer in the grand scemes of things.

Wednesday, December 19, 2007
Magicsmom Has Issues

From her "BLOG"
Let's take a look at Magicsmom, .....

It was spiteful what TT did to her dh... I read it too and no way would I dream of doing this to my DH. I would have talked to him and had him make the appointment, then to make fun of him on the boards because of what he said? GROW UP!

Terry has been busy trying to destroy what she can of my reputation. And if she has to tell a few lies to do it she will. The following is a post she made at Jimmy's site. Her intent is clearly to lock me away from any and all diet support forums. I can only assume she may have some jealousy issues and would love to see me gain my weight back.

As she should help correct what you have distroyed, you are lies, lies and more lies. You can't decide which side to be on until it gets too hot for you and you need to back out. She is warning others of your intent. NONE of your intent is for any good. It's all to HURT PEOPLE, including the ones you are supposed to love.

I Know Terry, and I doubt she is jealous of you in any way shape or form.

From Terry-

Being a newbie to the board, I don't feel I have a right to weigh in on whether or not TT should be welcomed, but I do want to give you all a warning.

apparently TT did not read the first sentence, Terry did not come out and attack, HELLO!!! Funny.... you post this in your "BLOG" No one can hurt you there huh? Makes you look good with all the lies you have twisted up in a bunch! Post a comment you'll delete what you don't like, kinda like when you went banning like crazy. You decide you don'ty like them, hit the BAN button. Looks like TT has a LOT to learn!

Oh and hi TT!!!

[WildAngel6]

Originally Posted by MJR

Whoo Hooo!
Here's my "Ripoff Report" Rip-off Report: Kimkins - Heidi Kimberly Diaz - Kimmer Low Carb Diet Scam, VLCD, Starvation Diet, Laxative Abuse, Anorexia, Eating Disorders, Kimkins, Diet Fraud Corona California

We are up to 9 now.
Come on guys - we need some more.

I found over 700 "weight control" ripoff reports on that site - we don't want Kimkins to be hidden from innocent victims should they be investigating that site before signing up. Every entry counts.
A short and sweet (or not) entry is just fine. Please take a minute to file a report.

Thank you, MJR! That's AWESOME!

Absolutely, Everyone. Let's make this our Christmas Challenge!

Let's see how many Kimkins reports we can get posted to Ripoff Report.com by December 25th! Wouldn't that make a wonderful Christmas Present for Heidi?

Help Spread the Word: Say "NO" To Kimkins!

[Barbara B]

Originally Posted by BamaGal

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU-----

for those still unaware---the ripoff report is major----they are really bigger than the BBB---

we have an opportunity to get this story on their front page we just need someone to write a very detailed review of this---the more controversial the better---them submit it---

we can point to the report and send in added pics---then hopefully they will place it on the front page where everyone will see it---

so who is up to the challenge---

Ripoff Report
Ripoff Report® is a worldwide consumer reporting Web site and publication, by consumers, for consumers, to file and document complaints about companies or individuals.
Register to file a report

I've filled out a report.

[WildAngel6]

Originally Posted by MJR

Thank You JessiBear for helping me with my screen shots and pdf files!! I have updated information on the member (who I posted about a few days ago) at kk who is showing signs of having an eating disorder. And responses from Kimmer about how good she's doing.
I'd like to get these into the hands of someone who can forward them onto the attorney's office. If anyone has a suggestion on what to do with them, please let me know.

MJR, I think you will find all the information you seek in this post:


We Need You

Thank you for your diligence!

[WildAngel6]

Ripoff Report
Ripoff Report® is a worldwide consumer reporting Web site and publication, by consumers, for consumers, to file and document complaints about companies or individuals.
Register to file a report

Originally Posted by Barbara B

I've filled out a report.

Thank you, Barbara! You ROCK!

I'm looking forward to seeing a whole bunch more of these "Christmas Presents" for Heidi !

C'mon Everyone! Let's see if we can't overflow Santa's sack!

Help Spread The Word: Say "NO" To Kimkins!

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by McLurkypants

True to my name, I don't post all that much. But I am following along (and boy am I ready for that group hug!! ). I like to keep track of what's going on with the court case by watching the online docket. Here's something I don't remember seeing much (if any) discussion about here -

Did you know that Heidi had her case transferred to another judge? She complained that Judge Cunnison was biased against her, I presume, as evidenced by the fact that he issued the writ of attachment ex parte against her. All the pleadings are not online, so as yet there's no way to see Heidi's "170.6" motion to have him removed. In any event, there's a new judge on the case now.

Here's the entry from the Riverside Courts site:
12/04/2007 170. 6 FILED BY HEIDI DIAZ, KIMKINS AGAINST HONORABLE STEPHEN D. CUNNISON GRANTED.

OK I just did a little tiny bit of legal research and learned this:

...[A] wholesale revision of California's judicial disqualification scheme was undertaken in 1982. At that time, the state Legislature enacted C.C.P. Sec. 170.6, which guarantees to litigants the "extraordinary" right to disqualify a judge, or referee, without any showing of cause whatsoever.

Found that here.

Aha! So Heidi wasn't even required to show any reason to have the judge removed. All she had to do was file the request under 170.6.

Well, don't you know the judges LOVE that. I'm sure that bought her lots of goodwill from the judicial system <===sarcasm===

There are a few other tidbits to be seen on the court website, but I have learned that it's best not to report stuff from there to here tooooo quickly, because Heidi apparently watches THIS site much more carefully than she watches the court's online docket!

I did notice that Heidi had the judge changed, but figured it was up to the principles in the suit to post it. I never know what is appropriate to post about the ongoing stuff, so I'm gun shy about it.

Originally Posted by WOOFY

Just dropping in to catch up....lots of reading to do. My grades posted today, all A's!! Woo hoo

Okay, I think I left off on page 55...LOL

Woo hoo Woofy!

Originally Posted by MomToEli

Oh, and I've seen the copy floating around of her "diet". I've read her comments about "if you want this BAD enough, you'll stick to this, and if you don't you must not want it BAD enough" comments. Wow. Sounds just like what you all have said Heidi says ... You all are convinced she is true and who she says she is ... Why is that? Wasn't there a time you ALSO believed Heidi was who she said she was and that her story was true and she was the lady in the lawn chair?

Gals, the MCD lady uses addresses that don't exist. Phone numbers that don't belong to candle companies. Uses the same exact pay me before I show you my secrets tactics. Is promoting low carb/low fat/ low calorie/based on her say so dieting.

Hello? Anybody home?

I have said yesterday AND the day before that I don't necessarily believe the MCD lady is who she says she is, so no you were not the first to think of it. That site very well may be Heidi's backup plan for all we know.

Originally Posted by MJR

Whoo Hooo!
Here's my "Ripoff Report" Rip-off Report: Kimkins - Heidi Kimberly Diaz - Kimmer Low Carb Diet Scam, VLCD, Starvation Diet, Laxative Abuse, Anorexia, Eating Disorders, Kimkins, Diet Fraud Corona California

We are up to 9 now.
Come on guys - we need some more.

I found over 700 "weight control" ripoff reports on that site - we don't want Kimkins to be hidden from innocent victims should they be investigating that site before signing up. Every entry counts.
A short and sweet (or not) entry is just fine. Please take a minute to file a report.

I filed one yesterday.

Originally Posted by Diana

Ok now I am mad.... WHAT IS UP WITH TT?? Now she is attacking Terry? Typo Terrible wife can't decide which program she is on, then flees Kimkins cause she can't take the pressure- all the lies she has told, she is not as good as kimmer in the grand scemes of things.

Yeah, rather than me being obsessed with her, I'd say it is the other way around, wouldn't you? I don't have her name plastered all over a blog, do I? Yes, I will talk about her in a thread when the subject comes up if I have something relevant to say, but that's a far cry from starting a blog to call her out on everything she's posted.

[Tom]

It's time for: Why the fascination with Kimmer? #12