Why the fascination with Kimmer? #10

[missis36]

Originally Posted by ADuckyMole

I'm confused about something.

I've read most of the Kimmer threads here and a lot of the blogs. Can I ask why LCF is being singled out as "negative" and "haters"? I truly don't understand this. What I see is a dedicated group of posters who banded together in an effort to stop Kimmer's scamming. Sure there are jokes and potshots along the way, but nothing heinous.

Am I missing something? Was there truly hatred going on here to anyone other than Kimmer, or possibly TippyToes?

Ok I'm trying to catch up here, so forgive me if this has already been said. While 99% of the people who are on these threads care about the possible danger being inflicted over there, there have been "drive by" posters. Who come in, stir up a lot of chit and then leave. Then we argue with them, make a couple biting comments (talking about me here) and the next thing you know whammo. We are mean.

We have become VERY suspicious of ANYONE posting at kk. So there has been occasion where we ASSUMED someone was a sock puppet and commented on their posts. Speaking for only myself I was convinced Osuz was heidi in drag. Because sorry to say I never saw one post of hers that didn't make my skin crawl. So, I talked about it here. Then maybe a few others joined. And wala, we are haters.

We aren't haters. We are people who are united for the cause of taking kimmer down. And while yes we do joke (trust me some of these comments have me rolling on the floor at times) we also have very big hearts. We wish no harm on anyone, just to undo what Heidi has done. That means make everyone who ever met heidi whole again. Giving back the money she did not deserve is a start. But working with them on this board and others to make sure they can get back on track from the ed's.

I think that sums it up nicely. I for one will say I have been a behotch to the nth degree on here at times, but that is to defend my sisters in the quest, and I'd do it again.

Now if the humor bothers people that's sad, cuz honestly, if you aren't laughing you may end up crying over this mess.

The end

Hey btw, Woofy mentioned it, but did ya'll notice....WE GOT HEIDI SCARED?!?!?! Woot!

[flowerpower]

Originally Posted by ADuckyMole

I'm confused about something.

I've read most of the Kimmer threads here and a lot of the blogs. Can I ask why LCF is being singled out as "negative" and "haters"? I truly don't understand this. What I see is a dedicated group of posters who banded together in an effort to stop Kimmer's scamming. Sure there are jokes and potshots along the way, but nothing heinous.

Am I missing something? Was there truly hatred going on here to anyone other than Kimmer, or possibly TippyToes?

Any of the Kimkins paid employees were put in the hot seat at any given time during this ongoing topic. Many of the posts were deleted by the admins, that is until the admins realized that we were right to begin with.

As the paid employees left and apologized to us for their continuing support of Heidi's fraud, their apologies were accepted.

The money was too important to Tippy and Singinglass, though. They stuck by Heidi knowing she was a fraud. I will never believe they stuck by Heidi for any other reason. Same thing with Dr. Mark... the money obviously made a difference - he stuck with it until the money dried up, knowing the diet was based on fraud.

Kimkins website will be gone before long. All those current members will find their way to new places. Hopefully most have shared email addresses just in case.

As a member of a challenge group for the past 6 years, our members always shared email addresses - just in case something happened to LCF. Gosh, we even shared mailing addresses and phone numbers. I hope that is happening at Kimkins and elsewhere.

[WildAngel6]

Originally Posted by ADuckyMole

This was just posted ALL OVER the Kimkins boards. About 30 threads got this as a reply! I have a couple of screenshots, but I'm sure it's being scrubbed as I type...


"Dear remaining Kimkins members,

Your good friend AmyB was banned from Kimkins this morning.

TippyToes left Kimkins yesterday, and posted the following:
[Emphasis mine.]

Take a look for yourself. Do you think that these pictures show Kimmer going from 317 to 287? Have you ever, EVER seen a 30lb loss show so dramatically?



Aren't you wondering why the boards are so quiet? Why one after another, Admins keep leaving? FitnessGuru, gone. "Dr." Mark, gone. TippyToes, out the door.

I hope this information helps you see that Kimmer is still lying. If you are worried about losing the close friendships you've formed here, don't be. There are friendly and peaceful messageboards set up to welcome ex-Kimkins people, which focus not on the negativity but on losing weight with great community support. Many, many of those who've been banned or left Kimkins are now posting there. You'll see old friendly faces again.

My advice is to save the journals you have here, because Kimmer told TippyToes that this site is in danger of going down. You don't want to wake up one morning and simply not be able to log in. Get out while you can, before this site falls apart completely.

For new people to whom this is all a mystery, Google "Kimkins scam" to see what this site's founder is really like. Don't get sucked in.

And to Kimmer - shame on you."

Thank you for sharing. Hopefully at least some of the right people got to see this before it all gets taken down.

[ketosis]

Originally Posted by ADuckyMole

I think there's truth mixed in. It sounds like she believed she was doing the right thing by advising people to up their calories, cycle with Atkins, not abuse laxatives.

However, how much of this is self-aggrandizing, oh-look-at-me the Saviour of the Kimkinites?

I think Tippy saw a chance at a power grab, and justified it to herself by saying she could help people. She wanted to feel important, whether through the PR Director title or through her personal vision of herself as grandly making everything right.

I do think her advice over there did some good - telling people at Kimkins to eat more is a good thing, after all. I think she wanted to believe Kimmer with all her heart so it would give her bizarre quest some legitimacy. Then, as with every other admin, the lies just got too much, especially after Kimmer had supposedly come clean yet continued with money "woes" and picture hijinks.

She wanted to keep her job and she could not follow kk the way it was written so part of her knew and advised to eat more but she still defended kk until the money stopped.

And now she wants back in as a kk survivor? Wow. Ballsy.
Anyone who doesnt see through that deserves what they get.

And I am again pages behind lol.

[Dottie]

Originally Posted by ketosis

She wanted to keep her job and she could not follow kk the way it was written so part of her knew and advised to eat more but she still defended kk until the money stopped.

I was wondering how much it had to do with her appearance on M&J and that she was admitting how bad the plan was and all that? I can't imagine "the kimmer" taking that well.

[LosingToLive]

Originally Posted by Dottie

From the TT post:


Well, at least she's admitting to the blackmail attempt, even if she is trying to whitewash it

And yes, damn us anyhow, we ban people who try to blackmail our members. Bad LCF... bad!

*snicker*
I wish I knew how to post that "tapping guy". Bad LCF, *tap-tap-tap*

[missis36]

Originally Posted by Dottie

I was wondering how much it had to do with her appearance on M&J and that she was admitting how bad the plan was and all that? I can't imagine "the kimmer" taking that well.

Good point Dottie! I agree with the previous poster who said if Tippy turned states witness, she might have a fighting chance. Of course she'd have to do a whole bunch more in my book. But that would be a start. K brb I gotta go email a doozie of a story to MandJ.

[JoanieOrchard]

Originally Posted by Dottie

I was wondering how much it had to do with her appearance on M&J and that she was admitting how bad the plan was and all that? I can't imagine "the kimmer" taking that well.

I doubt that Kimmer was thrilled with Flippy's performance, but I don't think that is what caused Flippy to leave.

It's hard to believe dishonest people. However, in this case, I do believe what Flippy said just because of the timing of everything. Heidi cried poor about not being able to put milk on the table, and then along with the rest of us this last week, Flippy saw the KTLA piece and the paypal pictures and realized that Heidi was once again lying. Only THIS time the lies were directly affecting Flippy because she wasn't getting paid.

I don't think Flippy left over any personal or professional integrity. If Heidi had paid her, she'd still be there.

[missis36]

Um, I agree Joanie, I'd also like it noted that I called this days ago hehe. Remember something to the effect of, Whoa Heidi's assets are frozen, bet ya tippy bolts soon

[flowerpower]

Originally Posted by JoanieOrchard

I doubt that Kimmer was thrilled with Flippy's performance, but I don't think that is what caused Flippy to leave.

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I don't think Flippy left over any personal or professional integrity. If Heidi had paid her, she'd still be there.

Exactly!

[LosingToLive]

Originally Posted by JoanieOrchard

I doubt that Kimmer was thrilled with Flippy's performance, but I don't think that is what caused Flippy to leave.

I don't think Flippy left over any personal or professional integrity. If Heidi had paid her, she'd still be there.

[LosingToLive]

That she will just "start another site when this one gets shut down". Tippy stayed (knowing).


Heidi WILL start another one !

Tippy was looking for recipes on Amy's site, are they going to use those for a book? ( Go read all her posts)
Is Tippy really still at KK and trying to pull the wool over our eyes?

Things that make you go Hmmmmmm !
I'm still NOT buying her excuse. ( I really hate being like this, its not like me).

[missis36]

Can I say d-bag on this site? Osuz just posted full on lies about me at the other site, and then it got locked so I couldn't respond.

Sorry for your luck Osuz, we all remember the person who belittled the 14 yr old girl...and pookie it wasn't me.

Do I have nothing in my life? Uh, no. I don't. It's sad really? Thank you for thinking of me. You wanna hang out? Or something. Cuz I mean really, you are nothing but welcoming. I respect Amy and have decided to not visit that site again, because no matter what anyone fighting on this side does, we are haters, and no matter what anyone from that side does, they are victims.

It's really quite sad.

[EasyPeas]

Don't know if it's true or not, but heard from a reliable source....

Over at the Kimpound.... Anyone who mentions AmyB or Tippy Toes in any way in their post .... is having their post immediately deleted and they are being locked out. They aren't getting ban notices... at least not yet.... but their logins suddenly no longer work.

[lbbmp]

Exactly
I hope, even if she comes clean, that she's never allowed to be on LCF!
She was so mean and snerkywith the foster kids saga!
Her banning of most people who were members of KK was inexcusable. I certainly don't believe her when she said she hardly banned anyone and that she warned them beforehand. Nope, no warning for me! Just banned after paying for a lifetime membership.
Lynn

Originally Posted by LosingToLive

[LosingToLive]

Originally Posted by EasyPeas

Don't know if it's true or not, but heard from a reliable source....

Over at the Kimpound.... Anyone who mentions AmyB or Tippy Toes in any way in their post .... is having their post immediately deleted and they are being locked out. They aren't getting ban notices... but their logins suddenly no longer work.

Rut Roh......Who will show up later? ?Will it be Captain Morgan or Wonder Woman ????

Sounds like a party ready to happen, better go get ready

[amykf]

I'm not singling anyone out. I'm basically at my wits end and don't know what else to do.

I am so upset that someone copied off my board and pasted onto Kimkins after I asked everyone nicely not to.

This has been a really hard day and I've been disappointed in pretty much everyone (my board, this board, etc.). I'm over here begging for peace.

Please if you are reading this, stop joining my board with names that are meant to stir the pot. I (and many many of my old members) are EXTREMELY upset that people have joined here just to post things to/about Tippy (regardless of how they feel about tippy). I have received MANY complaints about the sudden influx of new members who aren't even introducing themselves and are obviously there for the drama. I have old members threatening to quit because of it. You have this forum here to talk about Tippy all you want. If you are not on my board to contribute in a positive way, please leave now. We don't want you there any more than many of my members don't want Tippy there. Yes, tippy joining there is the cause of the drama (and my other admin will be dealing with that because I've just about had it with everyone), but in my opinion, by coming to my board and taking her words off my board and registering with names that are purposely to get a rise out of people - YOU are the ones causing drama on my board. We don't want it there.

I also am not going to stand for my members talking about other boards or other people in a disrespectful way either. I've let people slide in the past because I know many people feel they had nowhere to vent, but you know what - no more! So don't think I'm beating just you guys here up. I've been disappointed in my own members as well and there will be repercussions there as well.

I tried to give someone a chance when no one else would. I was hoping there would be a way for everyone to just get along, but I can see that's just not going to happen. My other admin will be dealing with this all from now on because I'm exhausted and I can't take it anymore.

[missis36]

Originally Posted by LosingToLive

Rut Roh......Who will show up later? ?Will it be Captain Morgan or Wonder Woman ????

Sounds like a party ready to happen, better go get ready

Mannnnn, what the heck, I have to go live my life soon I can't miss another ww rant! Damnit! Someone make sure to get screenshots of the drunken tirade that will certainly follow!

[ketosis]

Originally Posted by ADuckyMole

I'm confused about something.

I've read most of the Kimmer threads here and a lot of the blogs. Can I ask why LCF is being singled out as "negative" and "haters"? I truly don't understand this. What I see is a dedicated group of posters who banded together in an effort to stop Kimmer's scamming. Sure there are jokes and potshots along the way, but nothing heinous.

Am I missing something? Was there truly hatred going on here to anyone other than Kimmer, or possibly TippyToes?

This upsets me too. LCF put heat on heidi and kept it there and exposed her so it gets a lot of hate from Kimkins and there is a lot of that hate that gets carried over to the other sites by those leaving kk. I think part of it is they still felt an affection for heidi when they leave even though they know she is a criminal but they are not ready to hate her so they target lcf.

And tippy and others carry that as well and add to it.

Tippy has no reason to hate lcf but she is embarassed by her own greed and stupidity and being caught so she will continue to label lcf.

Her explanation is more about the money stopping and seeing on paper how much heidi raked in and spent and less about seeing the light.

[missis36]

Amy again I'm so sorry you had to deal with all of that. And I am sorry that my post started the other stuff. Please know that we all respect you here. And do not envy the position you have been put in.

Also, the screen name I used on your site was Adrianna, that's my daughters name. Not a jab at Tippy. Just letting you know

[CJane]

Originally Posted by missis36

Amy again I'm so sorry you had to deal with all of that. And I am sorry that my post started the other stuff. Please know that we all respect you here. And do not envy the position you have been put in.

Respect, definitely.

By the same token, though, you must have realized no matter what your pleas were Amy, that this was bound to happen once Tippy resurfaced, no matter where that might have been. Unfortunately it was at your forum.

I registered there under my normal screen name (CJane) because I do want to see what's going on, but I do not intend to contribute to the uproar. I don't have anything to say to Jeannie anyway, personally, that I can't say here because you know even if she can't post here anymore that she is still reading. I do understand the desire for those to post who want Jeannie to respond...and the only way they can get that is to post at your site. I don't envy your position, either.

Okay, I'm back out the door for a while, but I'm trying to stay abreast of things when I am able...

[ketosis]

oh I agree 100 percent.

I was just saying from her apolgy nothing else Kimmer did was sufficient to cause tippy to move from kimkins it was lying to Tippy about Tippy's money.[/quote]

ding ding ding ding

We have a winner!

[susique333]

Originally Posted by Amyb1569

Well here I am. It seems that I have been banned. I bet none of you are surprised. I guess what sucks most for me is I can not e-mail any of my special friends on there and say that I have been banned.
I guess I am just plain naive but I have no idea why I am banned.
And please do not jump on me when I say this..but I think Kimmer would be happy. I am so sad and so upset by this. I have such a following on that group and I guess I need my small group of friends there.
If anyone here has a kimmer log in and would be willing to let someone know over there.
Shoot I feel lost. I guess she won huh?

Hello Amyb, welcome. The foot print on my butt is fading from being kicked out over there too. But I think you will find a bunch of supportive people here.

[JoanieOrchard]

Originally Posted by EasyPeas

Don't know if it's true or not, but heard from a reliable source....

Over at the Kimpound.... Anyone who mentions AmyB or Tippy Toes in any way in their post .... is having their post immediately deleted and they are being locked out. They aren't getting ban notices... at least not yet.... but their logins suddenly no longer work.

Wow! Could it be that this is REALLY and FINALLY the end of Kimkins? There isn't going to be anyone left. New members? When they look around and see a ghost town, they will be demanding their money back and disputing the charge.

I think it's just LOUSY that she banned AmyB. Not to mention stupid!