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Old 11-30-2007, 08:42 AM   #2191
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I have trouble keeping up with all the details of this real-life drama (you guys are so prolific) BUT,

if SL has admitted to being a "phone psychic"- well that is a well-known scam in and of itself. How could she have any credibility at all
A good question that SL will never answer I predict! Just kidding....
But as far as SL having credibility. I think most feel she does not at this point.

Now, why I would give her any benefit of the doubt or credibility at any point in all of this is more complicated.

I personally did view her as credible when I was at kimkins, before the phone incident. The whole psychic hotline job of course raises eyebrows, but it is a job and one that is legal. I mean there are lots of "credible" or respectable appearing jobs that have non-credible people in those positions. A big one that comes to mind are clergymen. So the psychic line job was just that a job- that at least states it is not truthful and for entertainment purposes only. I viewed it as a piece of information to store away, but not enough for me to stop giving her the benefit of the doubt.

I thought SL was being used by Heidi and was just not aware of all the issues. Now, that was months ago when I thought that. But once I got banned and saw her PM's on the truth, you could stick a fork in me, because I was "Done" with believing her.

Now at times I will look at both sides of a situation pertaining to her, for example the police report she states she filed on the alleged calls. I tried to say, lets go with the idea that she did get the calls but then... blah blah blah....I was doing that *not* because I believe her, but because I wanted to prove that her claims don't hold water.
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:46 AM   #2192
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Interesting that they even bother to HAVE a page when they don't have ANY "Weight Loss Success Stories - Interviews with real people!" for the Kimkins Diet. (although I wish they wouldn't call it a low carb diet, as it's really a low everything diet, or in more appropriate terms, a starvation diet)

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Kimkins Low Carb Diet - Interviews With People That Follow The Kimkins Diet Program

The Kimkins diet promises fast weight loss without the need for gastric surgery, diet pills, special foods, exercise, and supplements. A number of the program's members have lost a large amount of weight in a short amount of time through carb-calorie restriction, either through Kimkins or modified versions of it.

Numerous concerns about the methods used in very-calorie/carbohydrate diets and their sustainability have been voiced, so it's a good idea to consult a nutritionist or other qualified health professionals before going on one. This goes for other weight loss programs too, not just Kimkins.

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Old 11-30-2007, 08:47 AM   #2193
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:48 AM   #2194
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Interesting that they even bother to HAVE a page when they don't have ANY "Weight Loss Success Stories - Interviews with real people!" for the Kimkins Diet. (although I wish they wouldn't call it a low carb diet, as it's really a low everything diet, or in more appropriate terms, a starvation diet)

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Numerous concerns about the methods used in very-calorie/carbohydrate diets and their sustainability have been voiced, so it's a good idea to consult a nutritionist or other qualified health professionals before going on one. This goes for other weight loss programs too, not just Kimkins.

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Old 11-30-2007, 09:07 AM   #2195
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I guess I missed the part about being a phone psychic....if she's psychic,Why didn't she know who was calling her?
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Yeah, and she should have known the people were going to call before her phone even rang.
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:15 AM   #2196
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Yeah, and she should have known the people were going to call before her phone even rang.
That's it, who needs phones when you are psychic? Maybe she never got phone calls. Maybe she was just channeling her "spirit Guide" and got the phone calls telepathically? Maybe she also used her "spirit Guide" to telepathically call the police too? Maybe she is so psychic that she didn't realize none of this happened in the real world?















Nah. I just think she lied.

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Old 11-30-2007, 09:18 AM   #2197
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:21 AM   #2198
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Um well that depends, ketosis. I have a couple of questions for you...honestly. I mean HONESTLY now...do you REALLY look like a spotted duck in real life? I mean tell the truth, do you REALLY have a skinny neck? Are you really having troubles with Vista?? Does anyone REALLY have trouble with Vista?

And the biggy...do you really have ketosis breath and are you presently in ketosis??? I mean, what's your ANGLE, right? Oh and one more question? Who bought you those diamonds around your skinny neck???
WEll pooticus I can see your attitude is not what we at ketosis oasis like to see. So um once your payment clears you are going to be banned ok? Blame Vista for it if you like but you haters and naysayers are coming between me and my goal of a villa on the mediteranean.

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We get complaints about these threads going off topic, so we try to clean it up, then people trash us about that.
Some of the stuff goes off topic, but usually it gets back on track pretty fast.
But if something goes for pages and pages, we may have to step in and try to get it back on by moving a series of posts, or deleting them if it's something that was off topic and was resolved already.
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OMG! This gets whackier by the minute!

Tooter, you have a PM.












Nah. I just think she lied.[/quote]
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:26 AM   #2201
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:28 AM   #2202
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would almost be worth the $60 again!! lol
Ok Honestly, shouldn't there be some sort of discount for us by now? Like a "you really are making my job hard" discount from Heidi. What do you say Heidi, can we get in for say, um, free???

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How does that saying go? A slap is worth a thousand words?

/just kidding
Great, now we are gonna get all those terrorist comments again. I'll bet you 1 dollar singingass says something somewhere about someone wanting to slap her hahaha.

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Not to far.. IMO - She should be grateful that Missi was not to miffed about her totally ignoring her direct questions and done a search and post pictures of her house ! LOL Even old ones form previous sales LOL ... kidding... Dont go there gurl!
Not really, as I said before she is not now nor has she ever been my concern. She's a bit player. Tippy was the PR director and another big liar, so she needed to be addressed, but Singinglass, well, I realized after the first go round with her that she's simply a pawn in this game. Also after reading her emails to Heidi on the truth, I realized she had/has many issues that she needs help with, including her incessant need to please the master. Speaking of which where are is the dom dude?

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Just a comment about “… leave individual people alone …”

May be time for people associated with KimKins to lawyer-up! In the eyes of the law, individuals can become public figures (more typically, politicians or celebrities) with limited rights to claim libel or defamation (1964 ruling, U.S. Supreme Court).

Common folk can become limited purpose public figures, if they "thrust themselves to the forefront of particular public controversies ..."

Just 'sayin ....

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Now is where we should stop helping hha. I'm thinking, oh and believe me I said this before, that Tippy and SL need to go down with the ship now. I think since they both stayed there knowing all we know, they DESERVE to be prosecuted too. Sorry, but it's true.

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HB that poster who said she tried back in May ....has a blog up about her views that LCFs management bears responsiblity for the kimpires existance too by deleting all the negative kimpire postings here before the facination topics started.
And now it's time for my daily soap box. Ok, for those people who continue to try to hold LCF accountable for this let me try to break it down to where you will understand it.

Ok, we all know Tooter is a success story right? And she's one hot Grandmother right? Now let's say I came on here and said "There's no way that pic is of you Tooter, I think in real life you are fat." How long do you think this will stay up.

We know Fawn is a success story (the Fawn here not at kk) Fawn has a shake recipe, many like it. I say "Fawn, your shake tastes like butt, and I'm guessing you didn't lose any weight." How long do you think it's gonna last?

Now Kimmer shows her b/a pics. And a group of people said "There's no way those are her pics." And they begin to fight with her on here. What was lcf supposed to do? They did what they were supposed to do. They had NO PROOF that Heidi was a mess. Cripes even I got posts pulled in the beginning for saying things that are proven facts now. But they were trying to make this a peaceful environment.

LCF, didn't make Heidi a "star" Heidi's bs made her a "star". Many of those speaking out against LCF seem to know about message boards, but they really can't because any forum I've been on in the past would have dealt with it the exact way it was dealt with here. And honestly, anyone who is trying to point the finger at LCF is just trying to get the finger away from Heidi. Duh.
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:32 AM   #2203
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Ketosis you got the google bomb backwards. it doesn't help the real site it helps move the false site up in the google search of the real sites. but one is supposed to place links to their site in the words so when folk click the words it increases the rank of the site traffic in the search engines. if any of the ducks were going to do that her name would have had links to some place like here so folk searching for the thruth about kimkins would see it.

those words were placed there to make the fake postings show in the post show search of her name by viewers. I got to agree with Honeybee. somebody knowing tippy was going to be on the show did that prior to the show airing and not somebody in the duck patrol.

of course any postings of tt's name with links here or other duck site we will know from the time stamp were not a google bomb by the duckpatrol but by the kimpire to make it look like we did it since they get their ideas from here.


HB that poster who said she tried back in May ....has a blog up about her views that LCFs management bears responsiblity for the kimpires existance too by deleting all the negative kimpire postings here before the facination topics started.
Backwards is typical of my brain function some days

Thanks for clarifying that 2big. So who would that help then if not KK?
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I am lost here. SL is/was a telephone psyhic. Right? Well, COULDN'T her 'threatening' phone call have been from a wrong reading or something?? You know..irked off customer?


(NOT that I believe her...just asking ) Oh, BTW..you are known by the company you keep? SL...I hate to tell you this, but SHEEP don't hang out in a HOG pen...

to translate..just in case...because you are hanging and CONTINUING to work with and PROMOTE an ADMITTED FRAUD..you are one also.
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:44 AM   #2207
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Thanks for clarifying that 2big. So who would that help then if not KK?
This is an example I do not sell high carb stuff

lets say I want to move up my blog ranking that say sells high carb stuff. I know a low carb show is going to be on and I know the name of the folk in that low carb show and the diet it promotes. So I write on my site those words. then the search engines go looking for those words when the folk seeing the show want more info. my high carb site is now placed high on the lowcarb results.

the bombing is as Bama has done in her siggy it says kimkins but doesn't go to kimkins so the bots find that and kimkins gets assiciated with the place it goes to moving that place up. also anybody clicking her siggy will increase the visits to that antikimkins site and it moves up in rank too.
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And now it's time for my daily soap box. Ok, for those people who continue to try to hold LCF accountable for this let me try to break it down to where you will understand it.

Ok, we all know Tooter is a success story right? And she's one hot Grandmother right? Now let's say I came on here and said "There's no way that pic is of you Tooter, I think in real life you are fat." How long do you think this will stay up.

We know Fawn is a success story (the Fawn here not at kk) Fawn has a shake recipe, many like it. I say "Fawn, your shake tastes like butt, and I'm guessing you didn't lose any weight." How long do you think it's gonna last?

Now Kimmer shows her b/a pics. And a group of people said "There's no way those are her pics." And they begin to fight with her on here. What was lcf supposed to do? They did what they were supposed to do. They had NO PROOF that Heidi was a mess. Cripes even I got posts pulled in the beginning for saying things that are proven facts now. But they were trying to make this a peaceful environment.

LCF, didn't make Heidi a "star" Heidi's bs made her a "star". Many of those speaking out against LCF seem to know about message boards, but they really can't because any forum I've been on in the past would have dealt with it the exact way it was dealt with here. And honestly, anyone who is trying to point the finger at LCF is just trying to get the finger away from Heidi. Duh.

Hey, How did I get Drawn into all of this??????





Just kidding, Missis!

Hindsight is 20/20 No one knew what we all know now. The only reason that Kimmer is exposed now is because of these threads and The Mods letting them continue. It really was and IS Ground Breaking.

It Took posters continuing to post (even if what they said were deleted) and the Mods starting to Let some things in. It took time for eyes to open and people to see the lies that could be proven.

You aren't supposed to make personal attacks on here. It took time to realize they weren't personal attacks because Kimmer wasn't real.

Actually, it's amazing that we all got this far without self-destructing. What it did was united us all. People that were digging and keeping it going would get burned out and then another Duck would take over and fill in the void and so on and so on. It truly is an amazing thing. The Power of the Ducks. A Duck gets tired and another refreshed duck takes it's place. That's not something that happened overnight and it didn't happen without the mods help.

I agree with Missis.
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This is an example I do not sell high carb stuff

lets say I want to move up my blog ranking that say sells high carb stuff. I know a low carb show is going to be on and I know the name of the folk in that low carb show and the diet it promotes. So I write on my site those words. then the search engines go looking for those words when the folk seeing the show want more info. my high carb site is now placed high on the lowcarb results.

the bombing is as Bama has done in her siggy it says kimkins but doesn't go to kimkins so the bots find that and kimkins gets assiciated with the place it goes to moving that place up. also anybody clicking her siggy will increase the visits to that antikimkins site and it moves up in rank too.
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I swear to God *raising my right hand* I just asked it the same question and I got: Yes, but not soon.

ETA: Sorry, I asked "WILL Kimmer go to Jail".
Only if the Feds get involved!

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Hey, How did I get Drawn into all of this??????





Just kidding, Missis!

Hindsight is 20/20 No one knew what we all know now. The only reason that Kimmer is exposed now is because of these threads and The Mods letting them continue. It really was and IS Ground Breaking.

It Took posters continuing to post (even if what they said were deleted) and the Mods starting to Let some things in. It took time for eyes to open and people to see the lies that could be proven.

You aren't supposed to make personal attacks on here. It took time to realize they weren't personal attacks because Kimmer wasn't real.

Actually, it's amazing that we all got this far without self-destructing. What it did was united us all. People that were digging and keeping it going would get burned out and then another Duck would take over and fill in the void and so on and so on. It truly is an amazing thing. The Power of the Ducks. A Duck gets tired and another refreshed duck takes it's place. That's not something that happened overnight and it didn't happen without the mods help.

I agree with Missis.

ITA with your post .... and what has been uncovered and published is truly incredible. We've got a ton of hard workers on this forum.
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