Why the fascination with Kimmer? #10

[susique333]

Originally Posted by OhYeahBabe

What? Not a pound a day? She must have picked the wrong shakes. She must be cheating. Probably measuring whole fistfulls of iceberg lettuce. Probably even used pam on her egg whites. I wonder if she's considered M.O.M. yet?

Heck I think its the Splenda she said that causes people to stall for months at a time!! Back to plain water for you missy! & couple that with another grab of lettuce and youre sure to stall! Now remember a "jello cup" of cooked veggies is all youre allowed...ARE YOU ACCURATELY measuring & weighing Gurl? And I wonder if youre using Salad Spritzer religiously? Tsk Tsk Kimmer......you can do far better than that! Back to BootCamp! Hut 2,3,4!!

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by beckynett

The deposition was videotaped.

Let's just say her appearance on that day, the same day she posted that photo on her site, will be a sad surprise to the good people of Kimkins, but it will not surprise most people here.

Would it surprise the PI or would he recognize her?

[Katinsac]

The PI pic are all the proof we need to prove she did not lose the weight so the rest is moot

[Katinsac]

just had a pleasant thought...PI gets pic of how H did not lose the weight as stated...H suffers to lose the weight before the trial....trial takes a lot longer than she thinks to get to and she gains back her weight and more

[beckynett]

Let me also say my issue is not Kimmer's size. This is a weight loss site. Kimkins is a weight loss site. We are all here because we are or were heavy. So, I have no issue with someone being overweight, or losing and regaining. It is a struggle we all share, to some extent.

My issue is that she has deliberately lied with intent to defraud, and that she CONTINUES to lie for profit, even in her so-called 'confession'. That is illegal.

She never reached goal. She admits to only losing 100 lbs. which would have left her still over 200 lbs.
Then, she admits she cannot and has not ever maintained. So, that must mean she did NOT maintain even the the 100 lb. loss for all these 5 or 6 years she claimed, and then regain it since the magazine. No, she was actually regaining the weight while she was still here, presiding over the 'Ask Kimmer' thread. She was morbidly obese when she started Kimkins, and has been the whole time. I believe she was bigger than her previous high of 317.

That is not an 'oops - my bad'. That is a crime.

Even if she had regained it all since the magazine came out, that in itself would speak a warning about the rebound gain of someone who has damaged her metabolism severely, maybe beyond repair, with Kimkins.

It appears she started losing when the PI pics outed her.

It is not easy for anyone to lose a lot of weight and maintain. I know that.

Yet, quite a few people here on this site and at other good low-carb sites have done it the right way.

I hope it goes as well for those of us who have done Kimkins --- but, that's not what I have seen so far.

[Baby PHAT]

I have been gone for a long long time and had given up on low carb long ago as well. I'm shocked and amazed at this whole Kimmer fiasco. I would have never even suspected that she was a fraud. A while back I analyzed her fitday menus and used to read everything she posted.

I'm interested because there were two young ladies who were able to lose a significant amount of weight using this program but are bad mouthing it at the same time?

There are so many posts and threads to go through but I would like to see their stories. If someone can link me I would appreciate it.

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by OhYeahBabe

What? Not a pound a day? She must have picked the wrong shakes. She must be cheating. Probably measuring whole fistfulls of iceberg lettuce. Probably even used pam on her egg whites. I wonder if she's considered M.O.M. yet?

Originally Posted by beckynett

The deposition was videotaped.

Let's just say her appearance on that day, the same day she posted that photo on her site, will be a sad surprise to the good people of Kimkins, but it will not surprise most people here.

Videotaped? Gotta love that! heh

Originally Posted by Katinsac

just had a pleasant thought...PI gets pic of how H did not lose the weight as stated...H suffers to lose the weight before the trial....trial takes a lot longer than she thinks to get to and she gains back her weight and more

Now *that's the Kimkins diet.

[CarolynF]

I totally agree with you, Becky..

What gets me mad about her is that so many great people here have done it the hard way and have had alot more weight to lose than me (65 pounds) and I applaud all that hard work and determination that they persevered throughout their weightloss and didn't give up.

THEN, comes Kimmer LYING about her weightloss and making people feel bad when they aren't losing "as fast" as she was or telling them to do unhealthy things to their bodies.

She has NO AUTHORITY to even tell ANYONE how to lose weight..NONE..and I feel sorry for those poor people who are following her dangerous advice..

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

The PI pic are all the proof we need to prove she did not lose the weight so the rest is moot

She has already admitted to lying to some extent when the PI pics were taken and those pictures of course verify her lies about her claims of success up to that point.

Since Kimmer is currently posting about recent weight loss and also posting a picture that is much slimmer than the PI pics, I think her current appearance is a valid topic.

My purpose in asking if the PI would recognize her was a cloaked tongue in cheek way of asking, "Hey, has she truly lost weight since the PI pictures and now resemble the pics posted at Kimkins OR is she still lying about her success and defrauding new members?"

I believe we are now trying to establish if she is currently lying with her "weight loss" by posting manipulated images on Kimkins and stories of weight loss since those PI pics.

Her posting at kimkins with her weight loss may be Heidi all over again attempting to profit off the lies of her weight loss and fake images.

The PI pics are able to cover the lies about her image up to a certain point, but what about how she looks now in comparison to the pics she is posting?
Her appearance now is still an issue if she is selling memberships to Kimkins and posting an invalid image on kimkins in my opinion.

[CarolynF]

I agree, HB..She is still selling her image as she "loses" weight. Dollars to Krispy Kremes, she isn't even doing that..

[ketosis]

Originally Posted by beckynett

Let me also say my issue is not Kimmer's size. This is a weight loss site. Kimkins is a weight loss site. We are all here because we are or were heavy. So, I have no issue with someone being overweight, or losing and regaining. It is a struggle we all share, to some extent.

My issue is that she has deliberately lied with intent to defraud, and that she CONTINUES to lie for profit, even in her so-called 'confession'. That is illegal.

She never reached goal. She admits to only losing 100 lbs. which would have left her still over 200 lbs.
Then, she admits she cannot and has not ever maintained. So, that must mean she did NOT maintain even the the 100 lb. loss for all these 5 or 6 years she claimed, and then regain it since the magazine. No, she was actually regaining the weight while she was still here, presiding over the 'Ask Kimmer' thread. She was morbidly obese when she started Kimkins, and has been the whole time. I believe she was bigger than her previous high of 317.

That is not an 'oops - my bad'. That is a crime.

Even if she had regained it all since the magazine came out, that in itself would speak a warning about the rebound gain of someone who has damaged her metabolism severely, maybe beyond repair, with Kimkins.

It appears she started losing when the PI pics outed her.

It is not easy for anyone to lose a lot of weight and maintain. I know that.

Yet, quite a few people here on this site and at other good low-carb sites have done it the right way.

I hope it goes as well for those of us who have done Kimkins --- but, that's not what I have seen so far.

Very well said.

The issue is the lies, the bullying, the fraud, the endangerment of health of others through her deliberate fraudulent actions.

[Katinsac]

gotcha Honey...good point

[buzzybee]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

She has already admitted to lying to some extent when the PI pics were taken and those pictures of course verify her lies about her claims of success up to that point.

Since Kimmer is currently posting about recent weight loss and also posting a picture that is much slimmer than the PI pics, I think her current appearance is a valid topic.

My purpose in asking if the PI would recognize her was a cloaked tongue in cheek way of asking, "Hey, has she truly lost weight since the PI pictures and now resemble the pics posted at Kimkins OR is she still lying about her success and defrauding new members?"

I believe we are now trying to establish if she is currently lying with her "weight loss" by posting manipulated images on Kimkins and stories of weight loss since those PI pics.

Her posting at kimkins with her weight loss may be Heidi all over again attempting to profit off the lies of her weight loss and fake images.

The PI pics are able to cover the lies about her image up to a certain point, but what about how she looks now in comparison to the pics she is posting?
Her appearance now is still an issue if she is selling memberships to Kimkins and posting an invalid image on kimkins in my opinion.

GREAT post and I agree 100%!

I just love our lil' HoneyBee.....

[Sweeteater]

Originally Posted by ketosis

I believe the wristband was added on to cover up the old watch in the original pic and in a flash of brilliance they decided to make a kk wristband on her to add that touch of authenticity.

But I am a skeptic

ITA it just doesn't look like part of the original photo

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by beckynett

Let me also say my issue is not Kimmer's size. This is a weight loss site. Kimkins is a weight loss site. We are all here because we are or were heavy. So, I have no issue with someone being overweight, or losing and regaining. It is a struggle we all share, to some extent.
My issue is that she has deliberately lied with intent to defraud, and that she CONTINUES to lie for profit, even in her so-called 'confession'. That is illegal.
[..............]...............
I hope it goes as well for those of us who have done Kimkins --- but, that's not what I have seen so far.

(emphasis mine)

Becky, I think most individuals realize that your issues with Kimmer are as you stated and they are valid ones that I, as well as most of us here, share with you too in our view of Kimmer. We believed her, but she abused that trust and in the process violated our consumer rights. That is truly, the bottom line in all of this.

[LChottie07]

Originally Posted by Baby PHAT

I have been gone for a long long time and had given up on low carb long ago as well. I'm shocked and amazed at this whole Kimmer fiasco. I would have never even suspected that she was a fraud. A while back I analyzed her fitday menus and used to read everything she posted.

I'm interested because there were two young ladies who were able to lose a significant amount of weight using this program but are bad mouthing it at the same time?

There are so many posts and threads to go through but I would like to see their stories. If someone can link me I would appreciate it.

Hi Baby PHAT - I assume you are speaking of me and my friend Deni - Please visit my blog HERE.. for the latest in why I am doing my best to educate and inform regarding the Kimkins program. Just this evening I have posted a new article on my MISPLACED MOTIVATIONS.
I would not have called it "bad mouthing," as you say, but now informing based on experience. I have discovered the lies, and dangers that are within this program, and while yes, I did lose weight... I must ask at what cost. Go back in my blog archive and watch my video for more information on that.

Here is Deni's Blog too: The Open Bench

I hope you find the answers you are looking for.

Christin

[tiggerr]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

You mean a guy who lived where you live or from LCF?

A guy who lived in California. He went on a fast to protest something.
He was drinking only liquids.

[JoSkids]

Originally Posted by WildAngel6

Well, IF the wristband that she is wearing in her new "current" pictures is really one of the limited edition "kimkins" wristbands, that would certainly give us a time frame of when the picture was taken. Maybe one of our former Kimkins ladies will know when those were ordered?

That seems to offer some sort of validity to the recent picture. (But I wonder how difficult would it be to add the wristband to the picture after the fact?)

Every answer seems to bring more questions.

I kind of question whether the bracelet is actually being worn or if that was photoshopped in as well. It looks "flat" to me.

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by Baby PHAT

I have been gone for a long long time and had given up on low carb long ago as well. I'm shocked and amazed at this whole Kimmer fiasco. I would have never even suspected that she was a fraud. A while back I analyzed her fitday menus and used to read everything she posted.

I'm interested because there were two young ladies who were able to lose a significant amount of weight using this program but are bad mouthing it at the same time?

There are so many posts and threads to go through but I would like to see their stories. If someone can link me I would appreciate it.

There are more than two young ladies who have lost a great deal of weight on Kimkins and are now speaking out on health issues. I believe there are 130+ at this point and those stories can be found at Kimkins Survivors
The fact that the diet has caused harm and many are now discussing that harm, could be viewed as "bad mouthing", but I guess the truth can hurt at times. Especially, for someone like Kimmer has no real grasp of the truth.
Now there are two young ladies that recently went on the Fox News Morning Show and that may be what you were referring to in your post and here is that link to view the video- The Morning Show with Mike and Juliet » Blog Archive » Online Diet Scam?
Their individual blogs-The Journey and The Open Bench

You may have not meant any harm, but the phrasing of your question makes it appear as those ladies are in the wrong for speaking out just because they lost weight on the kimkins plan. That, however, should not factor into the fact that the plan is dangerous as written and subsequently they are battling health concerns from doing an unsafe diet.
And although there were only two brave young ladies up there on that stage, they represented many of the former kimkins' members when they told their stories.
If I misinterpreted the tone of your post then my apologies. If you are unclear of the circumstances and meant to imply that they should be grateful for just losing the weight and should just "make nice", then you owe them an apology.

[Baby PHAT]

Originally Posted by LChottie07

Hi Baby PHAT - I assume you are speaking of me and my friend Deni - Please visit my blog HERE.. for the latest in why I am doing my best to educate and inform regarding the Kimkins program. Just this evening I have posted a new article on my MISPLACED MOTIVATIONS.
I would not have called it "bad mouthing," as you say, but now informing based on experience. I have discovered the lies, and dangers that are within this program, and while yes, I did lose weight... I must ask at what cost. Go back in my blog archive and watch my video for more information on that.

Here is Deni's Blog too: The Open Bench

I hope you find the answers you are looking for.

Christin

Thanx I appreciate that. I'm looking at the blogs right now. I had considered doing the kimkins plan and thought about the health problems that could be associated with rapid weight loss.

I know there can be a problem with gallstones if a person loses weight rapidly. I read that milk thistle helps with the gallbladder. I also know that the menstral cycle and hair loss can occur with rapid weight loss, which is suffered by WLS patients. And I'm well aware of the loss of electrolytes and or sodium that can cause dehydration, but as far as I know this is part and parcel of any low carb diet due to the diuretic effects of this WOE.

Are supplements recomended on this program? Do you think that vitamins and other supplements will help?

As far as fiber, isn't psyllium husk preferable over anything else?

I don't think that the kimkin's program is way off but could be fixed. I thought about weight loss surgery and liquid diets and decided to do low carb/low fat because of the fact that I can still eat and it reduces my appetite.

Another question I have is... has anyone done research as to why these health problems happened? I understand it's because of the low calories and malnutrition but has anyone researched how this can be prevented?

A lot of times even people who are overweight are still malnurished and on the brink of being dehydrated. These people still lack the vitamins, minerals and electrolytes needed in order to remain healthy.

What I'm basically saying is that... I don't like the fact that Kimmer is conducting herself in the manner that she is but all in all people have lost weight doing this program and have fallen victim to most of the side affects of rapid weight loss. People are essentially responsible for doing their own research instead of relying on someone on the internet to tell them what to do. Just because you pay for something doesn't automatically mean you are getting the best advice.

So even with the pros and cons of this Kimkins program, is it really necessary to continue to engage in "bad mouthing" this woman? She will get her just desserts in the end.

Common sense would tell anyone that reducing your food intake will cause weight loss. Besides the fraud of why people signed onto her program they essentially made the choice to follow it and lost weight. How exactly will this hold up in court?

I'm not advocating Kimmer in anyway, I'm just seeing this as being very one sided and unfair to all parties invloved. It appears to be a witch hunt and I thought as adults we should have evolved past the lynch mob mentality.

[Baby PHAT]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

There are more than two young ladies who have lost a great deal of weight on Kimkins and are now speaking out on health issues. I believe there are 130+ at this point and those stories can be found at Kimkins Survivors
The fact that the diet has caused harm and many are now discussing that harm, could be viewed as "bad mouthing", but I guess the truth can hurt at times. Especially, for someone like Kimmer has no real grasp of the truth.
Now there are two young ladies that recently went on the Fox News Morning Show and that may be what you were referring to in your post and here is that link to view the video- The Morning Show with Mike and Juliet » Blog Archive » Online Diet Scam?
Their individual blogs-The Journey and The Open Bench

You may have not meant any harm, but the phrasing of your question makes it appear as those ladies are in the wrong for speaking out just because they lost weight on the kimkins plan. That, however, should not factor into the fact that the plan is dangerous as written and subsequently they are battling health concerns from doing an unsafe diet.
And although there were only two brave young ladies up there on that stage, they represented many of the former kimkins' members when they told their stories.
If I misinterpreted the tone of your post then my apologies. If you are unclear of the circumstances and meant to imply that they should be grateful for just losing the weight and should just "make nice", then you owe them an apology.

Okay

I realize that the ladies in question have specific problems with Kimmer. And by them telling their story to keep people from falling into the same trap is great.

But Kimmer didn't hold a gun to their head and make them do the program. They chose to do it and for them to not do any research into rapid weight loss is their own fault.

Kimmer is at fault as well, I'm in no way excusing her. But is all of the threads and ganging up on her really necessary?

Do you guys realize that the more hits she gets on her site the more money she gets? Everyone is giving her more and more publicity. So now that it has been revealed that she is over 300 pounds and if she loses the weight do you realize the kind of publicity she will get? She will get even more people to join her site.

So I feel this, in the long run, will not sabotage her but in essence make her even more money.

[Baby PHAT]

I want to say one more thing...

One of the reasons I stopped coming to this site is because people who post on here gang up on anyone who says something against what they believe in. So I'm ready go ahead and gang up on me because I spoke my mind.