Why the fascination with Kimmer? #10

[ImCuterThinner]

OK you super slueths

How long until someone posts the MLS listing of the house she bought? I admit I am ever so curious

[missis36]

I'm cuter, I've been doing everything I can to obtain the assesment of the property, but I'm hitting some snags. Trust me, I've got all my contacts on it. Where I live you can pull assessment by name, seems you can't do that in riverside county. Damn!!! Also here the assesment has a pic of the property, including an air view! But, the fact that I'm nice and wish to not start another flame war, when I find it, WHEN, I will black out the address

[SMP]

Originally Posted by Kisal

Thanks, Honeybee! I was just about to google it myself, but you saved me the trouble!

Rats! Not to you, Honey and Kisal, but to the Demurrer paper. All it takes is a judge to rule. There's a saying - Innocent men choose a judge, the guilty a jury. All it highlights is that a jury is harder to convince unanimously than a single person. Hey, does this mean the soap opera has a new lease on life? I wanted my life back!

[LadyN]

Originally Posted by missis36

No one actually "makes sure" of that, but were there a mortgage on the property (which there isn't) she would have to sell the house for the amount to pay off the mortgage. A house can't be sold without a clear title and if you have a mortgage with abc mortgage for 300k, then you have to obtain a payoff for abc mortgage including per diem interest and pentalties if they apply. Then the amount the buyer gives you HAS to cover that amount. Does that make sense?

That being said she paid cash for it. So in fact she could sell it to someone for $100 bucks, however, knowing what we know now, even if she did that, we'd be on it, and then the lawyers would be on it as well.

As far as selling the house and being made to sell the house. Let's say she's found guilty, and she's fined 2 million dollars. In theory she would have to liquidate everything she has to come up with 2 million dollars. If in fact she can do that and still keep the house, then she won't have to sell it. But since this case is based on fraudulent business practices, she will likely have to return all of the money, hence the home goes bye bye as well.

Whew, that was wordy. Now you have enough knowledge to be a mortgage broker as well

ETA: oops, I know Doodle hates when I do this, but...I forgot to add. I did some more searching on the property last night, and from what I can tell, and I can't find the concrete proof right now, the house that she bought was either on the forclosure list or getting ready to be on it. Hence it was on the market for some time. Now in theory if she has to sell the house, she will likely take a hit financially, because if she gave asking price for a home that's been on the market at least 8 mos, she's not gonna sell it for more than that, probably not even for that. Hence, she takes another hit. On a lighter note, someone will get that property for a pretty fair price if she's forced to sell.

Ok that makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up for me. The only concern I still have is that she will somehow weasel out of giving up that house. Paying cash assures her the upper hand in how it is liquidated. Hmmm. Maybe she is smarter than we thought

[BamaGal]

Originally Posted by OhYeahBabe

Might be why she wanted her deposition delayed... buying a house is time consuming, especially when you are shy.

Originally Posted by CarolynF

Becky mentioned that the lawyer looked many times at the picture of Heidi on her website and said she was much larger than that in person. So..I'm wondering when she will post
another weight loss picture on the site..

You know..I'm betting in Kimmer's whole life of scamming, this is one of the first times she has actually been caught! Isn't this great when the system works?

you betcha!!

Originally Posted by EmmyJ

I've been following this thread from the beginning and have been, well, fascinated!

y'all need to checkout this new post--

Grilled Cheese Sandwich with Pickles: Kimkins Debunked: Myth #1

[beckynett]

It is my understanding that Heidi will not be able to sell or refinance the house with the lien on it.

I believe the lien will remain and the funds will be frozen until the case is settled.

To me, it seems that dragging things out may not be to her advantage.

[LadyN]

Originally Posted by beckynett

It is my understanding that Heidi will not be able to sell or refinance the house with the lien on it.

If she is found guilty and has to liquidate, are there any stipulations as to how much she has to sell the house for or to for that matter? Heck she could sell that house to a relative for $1.00 and never have to give it up it would seem. Maybe I am overestimating her ability to defraud, but I didn't think she could have done some of the things that have come to light recently either.

[2big4mysize]

since the house was attatched she can't sell it to anybody right now. After the lawsuit is settled she will need to come up with whatever amount the judge says she has to pay so she can't just sell the house for asy $1 cause the lien has to be settled before the house can be sold and no new owner would want to be finaicially responsible for the lien

[LadyN]

Originally Posted by 2big4mysize

since the house was attatched she can't sell it to anybody right now. After the lawsuit is settled she will need to come up with whatever amount the judge says she has to pay so she can't just sell the house for asy $1 cause the lien has to be settled before the house can be sold and no new owner would want to be finaicially responsible for the lien

Light bulb just came on LOL complete understanding now. Thanks for bearing with dense me!

[This time]

Originally Posted by WOOFY

[BobbiOh]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

I was going to comment that there was no way she bought a house in So Cal for 300,000...even here they are like 400 and up

SoCal is crashing hard and Corona is not a desirable area. It smells like cow manure, tends to be triple digit heat during the summer and is a miserable to commute to Orange County or LA. You can now buy houses here in San Diego in the $300s, so I'm betting you could in Corona, too. That said, I doubt Heidi would deny herself when she has the money.

[SMP]

Originally Posted by missis36

Actually the note is in her name alone. I searched it to see if Brandon was on it too so that she could turn it over to him, but it was as stated a cash transaction, with her as sole owner. So no trust. And a side note I agree with the escrow comment, but escrow is usally the length of the time it takes to complete the abstract, and or complete the title work, to make sure there are no other liens on the property. That can take as little as 3 days. However, my point was that it takes usually 7 days for the note to be recorded at the court house, so while she may have begun the transaction last month it likely closed the week prior to the depo. Still ballsy if ya ax me

Since Heidi raised Brandon to be who he is, she's being herself in not trusting him to not walk off with the house right under her nose! And she's doing what I would do NOW - fund a place to live until this miserable case drags to a sorry conclusion for somebody.

[SMP]

Originally Posted by missis36

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ETA: oops, I know Doodle hates when I do this, but...I forgot to add. I did some more searching on the property last night, and from what I can tell, and I can't find the concrete proof right now, the house that she bought was either on the forclosure list or getting ready to be on it. Hence it was on the market for some time. Now in theory if she has to sell the house, she will likely take a hit financially, because if she gave asking price for a home that's been on the market at least 8 mos, she's not gonna sell it for more than that, probably not even for that. Hence, she takes another hit. On a lighter note, someone will get that property for a pretty fair price if she's forced to sell.

That means 1. Heidi bought the house at a bargain price.
2.With the subprime mortgage meltdown currently underway, even that amount will be difficult to realize back, unless those CA fires wipe out so many houses that people get desperate for housing. Or unless the economy takes a sharp upturn.
3. Meanwhile, she's got a decent place to live for who knows however long, likely the best she's ever been in, and way better than a barred cubicle and orange jumpsuits.

[Just4Me]

Originally Posted by missis36

No one actually "makes sure" of that, but were there a mortgage on the property (which there isn't) she would have to sell the house for the amount to pay off the mortgage. A house can't be sold without a clear title and if you have a mortgage with abc mortgage for 300k, then you have to obtain a payoff for abc mortgage including per diem interest and pentalties if they apply. Then the amount the buyer gives you HAS to cover that amount. Does that make sense?

That being said she paid cash for it. So in fact she could sell it to someone for $100 bucks, however, knowing what we know now, even if she did that, we'd be on it, and then the lawyers would be on it as well.

As far as selling the house and being made to sell the house. Let's say she's found guilty, and she's fined 2 million dollars. In theory she would have to liquidate everything she has to come up with 2 million dollars. If in fact she can do that and still keep the house, then she won't have to sell it. But since this case is based on fraudulent business practices, she will likely have to return all of the money, hence the home goes bye bye as well.

Whew, that was wordy. Now you have enough knowledge to be a mortgage broker as well

ETA: oops, I know Doodle hates when I do this, but...I forgot to add. I did some more searching on the property last night, and from what I can tell, and I can't find the concrete proof right now, the house that she bought was either on the forclosure list or getting ready to be on it. Hence it was on the market for some time. Now in theory if she has to sell the house, she will likely take a hit financially, because if she gave asking price for a home that's been on the market at least 8 mos, she's not gonna sell it for more than that, probably not even for that. Hence, she takes another hit. On a lighter note, someone will get that property for a pretty fair price if she's forced to sell.

Originally Posted by beckynett

It is my understanding that Heidi will not be able to sell or refinance the house with the lien on it.

I believe the lien will remain and the funds will be frozen until the case is settled.

To me, it seems that dragging things out may not be to her advantage.

Originally Posted by 2big4mysize

since the house was attatched she can't sell it to anybody right now. After the lawsuit is settled she will need to come up with whatever amount the judge says she has to pay so she can't just sell the house for asy $1 cause the lien has to be settled before the house can be sold and no new owner would want to be finaicially responsible for the lien

Thanks Missi, Becky, and 2big for this info. Do any of you (or anyone else) know if in California law there's any kind of "homestead exception" that might shield the house (or a portion of its proceeds on sale) from the lien?

One the one hand, I hope there IS, because I hate to think of someone innocent losing a lawsuit and losing their home. HOWEVER, in this case, I have no qualms with imaging Hidey without her spiffy new house and cars. lol

[Mayberryfan]

Just wanted to thank our "goodest friend Tippy" . I just placed an order for some DaVinci SF egg nog syrup and Carbquik mix. When I Googled Carbquik it came up on Amazon. I order lots of stuff through Amazon and would've been tempted to do so again since they provide great service.

But, then I noticed the Netrition link, thought of Tippy, and decided to place my order there, instead of Amazon.

Tippy-kins, whenever I think of you, I just do this -

Tippy - bless her heart!

[AllieCat0817]

Where did yall get that pic of Hidey from in the red shirt?

[missis36]

Here are the details on her house. Looking for the pics as we speak

Residence: Single family --
Bedrooms: 4 --
Bathrooms: 3.0 --
Sq ft: 1,911 --
Lot size: 8,276 sq ft / 0.19 acres -- sq ft / -- acres
Year built: 1989 --

[tiggerr]

Originally Posted by Just4Me

Do any of you (or anyone else) know if in California law there's any kind of "homestead exception"

California Homestead Amounts

I googled it but haven't read it. Enjoy.

[This time]

Originally Posted by missis36

Here are the details on her house. Looking for the pics as we speak

Residence: Single family --
Bedrooms: 4 --
Bathrooms: 3.0 --
Sq ft: 1,911 --
Lot size: 8,276 sq ft / 0.19 acres -- sq ft / -- acres
Year built: 1989 --

Missis... I am so glad I'm on yours and Jeanessa side

[tiggerr]

Originally Posted by This time

Missis... I am so glad I'm on yours and Jeanessa side

Uh-huh

[Lisa Marie]

Originally Posted by Sherrie_lc

Allegedly, Heidi at her deposition:

Heidi_Diaz.jpg

Just catching up, but is that a diet coke in front of her?

[missis36]

Here's the top view of the home. I can't get any closer cuz it's never been posted on the net Note she's next to the house with the pool. Now ya'll be good kids and tell me if for any reason you can see the address, and if so, I'll pull it. But I think I've hidden that fact

[tiggerr]

Originally Posted by Lisa Marie

Attachment 8947

Just catching up, but is that a diet coke in front of her?

That was the concensus.