Why the fascination with Kimmer? #10

[Leashy]

Originally Posted by missis36

Ok havne't been able to catch up just yet, but I need to know is it just me or did anyone else see Honey's post on Halcion and think of the Brady Bunch episode when Jan was trying to think of a name for a boy she was dating and looked at the glass and said "George Glass"?

The reason? I think Heidi came up with the name while sitting at her computer looking around at stuff and the Halcion bottle was in sight. Just a thought. Ok....carry on.

Totally makes sense!

[Jazlyn]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

really a sad situation....a family of scammers

I was telling someone about this earlier.

This is something weird I found. I googled Heidi Diaz and this people locator thing came up and I found a Heidi Kimberly Diaz and it said associated names Dennise Miller. So I look up Dennise Miller thinking it might be her sister or something since Heidi's maiden name is Miller (I think) I found a Dennise Miller in Zephyrhills Florida. It is just a weird spelling of Dennise. A lot of people are turning up in Zephyrhills.

Just such a tangled web.

[wackytobeme]

Originally Posted by Awakened

Amanda Holbrook is another one of Kimmer's pseudo names. She "published" as the PR director of Kimkins after Christin left... with Christin's submitted article.... she is not a real person. (if she is a real person.. my apologies.. because Heidi Diaz has stolen your name to use it on her own.)

the abovepress release was written by Christin, and Heidi Diaz used it under this false name... even "quoted" by this false name... for something that Christin actually wrote and said herself right before leaving Kimkins.

So, since Christin wrote this, does this mean that she has had personal contact with those involved with the challenge and the article is completely factual (except for the Amanda Holbrook part) I'm asking because you would think all these teachers would be coming out in droves (publicly) to support Kimmer. Or did Christin just write it based on information supplied by HeidiK?

[Katinsac]

wacky....yes, there was a teachers challange over there and they did lose a lot

[Awakened]

Originally Posted by wackytobeme

So, since Christin wrote this, does this mean that she has had personal contact with those involved with the challenge and the article is completely factual (except for the Amanda Holbrook part) I'm asking because you would think all these teachers would be coming out in droves (publicly) to support Kimmer. Or did Christin just write it based on information supplied by HeidiK?

I believe that there really was a teachers challenge and they did lose weight together.... but as to whether or not Christin spoke with them, read about their stuff on their challenge thread, or heard info from Heidi.. I don't know.

[missis36]

YOu ladies kill me. I have got to remember who we are dealing with here. I tried to finish up on thread #9, and as soon as the new name was posted, began my search only to realize it has been done already haha. You guys are great!

Great info provided as well, including the Sharp Plumbing link. Perfect!!! That does indicate Dennis knows full well what's going on. Since, how else would you explain all the other mail when going to pick his up? Ah well, it's not shocking, you do as you are shown. IF they both grew up with a scammer like Heidi for a mother, what would you expect?

Heidi, I know you are reading this, and just wanted to say that you should really be ashamed of yourself. Is being a lying cheating scumbag so important to you that you would teach your children this? Sick! You should have been teaching them to be kind and loving and helpful to others. But instead, you taught them the way of the grift! Way to go.

I will leave you with this thought. I was once asked when I die what I would like for my friends and family to say about me, aside from the obvious joke of "Look she's still breathing" I thought about it and realized that I would like for them to say that I was always willing to help, that I was loving and kind. Not that I had a huge house or a sweet ride. You dig?!? What do you think people will say when you die Heidi? I'm sure someone will mutter "Bad mother" among other things. You should really be ashamed, and now I know why you need Halcion, I wouldn't be able to sleep either, if I acted the way you do!

[beckynett]

Yes, the teachers' challenge was genuine.

I think Christin emailed or PMed with the leader of the challenge, but I could be wrong. In any case, their challenge was an active one, and kept a running tally of combined pounds lost.

I can confirm Deni's statement, and Christin has the original to prove that she wrote that release. The quote is hers. After Christin left, Kimmer just made up Amanda Holbrook, and simply attributed the article and quote to her instead.

In Kimmer's mind, I imagine that was legit, since she had paid Christin for her time. Never mind that pesky little technicality of plagiarism and false attribution.

[Leashy]

Originally Posted by Jazlyn

I was telling someone about this earlier.

This is something weird I found. I googled Heidi Diaz and this people locator thing came up and I found a Heidi Kimberly Diaz and it said associated names Dennise Miller. So I look up Dennise Miller thinking it might be her sister or something since Heidi's maiden name is Miller (I think) I found a Dennise Miller in Zephyrhills Florida. It is just a weird spelling of Dennise. A lot of people are turning up in Zephyrhills.

Just such a tangled web.

Isn't that where TT and/or Dr Mark live?

[wifezilla]

#10...LOL

We rock! Keep up the heat!!!

[missis36]

Originally Posted by ketosis

I suspect her last fast was the diet coke cap'n morgan one and she woke up a few decades later and a few hundred heavier.

Picture this headlines: Kimmer does fast from jail to protest the limited internet time. Judge uses her past posts at lcf to discredit her actions!

That's hilarious!!!!

Originally Posted by scottish steve

"You're not ill from low calories. Whatever calories your body "needs" it's taking from body fat"
Is this idiot being serious ?

Sadly yes.

Originally Posted by OhYeahBabe

Quick, someone hand Kimmer another couple of inches of rope!

It doesn't sound like any GOOD advice the 1-ounce-of-chicken-breast-a-day girl gets is going to help her. She needs a doctor and a therapist, stat.

Yes, Scottish Steve, she's serious.

No problem, I think she's got plenty of rope now!

Originally Posted by CarolynF

Well, you can bet your bottom dollar that Kimmer will NOT be posting a 1200 calorie food allotment for herself. She will post the 800 calorie or below version, then post her weight losses and everyone will follow.

Those 3 challengers are probably starving themselves..It's like a competition
weight loss..(Biggest Loser, etc.), but there is no doctor on hand to watch them. Well, 3 more sick people, I'm afraid..

That's what she's been doing, and now she can say, I never said to eat like I was eating. I simply said what I was eating and posting about my success (which we know she hasn't had...sad really)

Originally Posted by Leashy

Isn't that where TT and/or Dr Mark live?

Yupper. Sure is where TT lives. You guys just keep uncovering more and more. And the plot thickens.....

[Chelveston]

Originally Posted by wackytobeme

Heather's after pic looks like she has gained weight.
Is HeidiK's after picture new, it still looks like what has always been there, except for the first front view.

Don't worry, Heather's current "after" pic will become the "before" pic after not too long. Anyone wanna bet on that?

Originally Posted by Jazlyn

I was telling someone about this earlier.

This is something weird I found. I googled Heidi Diaz and this people locator thing came up and I found a Heidi Kimberly Diaz and it said associated names Dennise Miller. So I look up Dennise Miller thinking it might be her sister or something since Heidi's maiden name is Miller (I think) I found a Dennise Miller in Zephyrhills Florida. It is just a weird spelling of Dennise. A lot of people are turning up in Zephyrhills.

Just such a tangled web.

Maybe TT is really Dennise using a pseudonym?

[wackytobeme]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

wacky....yes, there was a teachers challange over there and they did lose a lot

Originally Posted by Awakened

I believe that there really was a teachers challenge and they did lose weight together.... but as to whether or not Christin spoke with them, read about their stuff on their challenge thread, or heard info from Heidi.. I don't know.

Originally Posted by beckynett

Yes, the teachers' challenge was genuine.

I think Christin emailed or PMed with the leader of the challenge, but I could be wrong. In any case, their challenge was an active one, and kept a running tally of combined pounds lost.

I can confirm Deni's statement, and Christin has the original to prove that she wrote that release. The quote is hers. After Christin left, Kimmer just made up Amanda Holbrook, and simply attributed the article and quote to her instead.

In Kimmer's mind, I imagine that was legit, since she had paid Christin for her time. Never mind that pesky little technicality of plagiarism and false attribution.

Thanks all for the replies...I hope no one thought I was trying to cast any dispersions on Christin in anyway...knowing what I know about her, I know she would never willingly write something that wasn't true...
Are there any of the Teacher Challengers here?
I guess I'm just thinking of the kids that look up to them, if they ask how they lost the weight would they tell KimKins? Know what I mean??

[Awakened]

Hopefully the teachers involved are keeping their own dieting practices separate from their influence on kids. I'm sure they would....

I work with Jr. High'ers at my church.. and I wrote the following in my journal back in February ... while I was on and supportive of Kimkins.... this post is something I look back on now and think to myself.. wow... why didn't I realize what this MEANT?

(in reference to an upcoming youth group weekend retreat

I don't want to leave an unhealthy impression on these young girls. I try not to make it obvious that I"m dieting around them. You know how teenage girls are already obsessed with their weight... I wouldn't want them to see my diet and think "starving themselves" is proper. Yeah... you and I know, we aren't starving ourselves... but 13 year old girls would think so, and might be tempted to try it even though they don't need to. I really think it's more important for me to let my inner beauty show thru to these girls more than worrying about my external beauty. Even if this weekend knocks me out of ketosis.. I know I can get right back on Monday and build up my dominoes again. I will miss this nice long stack of dominoes that I've already built up.... but honestly being a good example for them is more important to me. (Hopefully God will recognize that and reward me!)

My intentions were always good.. but somehow I forgot to apply this stuff to MYSELF...

I'm not sure why I'm posting this here today.. but I think that perhaps there's still people who are on Kimkins that have hidden exactly what they are eating from people who they have an influence on... so by posting this, I want to ask them outloud what I wish someone had asked me.... "If it's not something you would want your child to do, then why do you insist that it's okay for you to do it?"

[Kelly130]

Originally Posted by HBGal

Just marking my place and off to read Deni's blog. It's great to see Deni and Christin together in the avatar!

HBGal - LOVE your new avatar! You look smashing! It's great to see you post.....I've been wondering where you've been. I don't post much, but I do my best to keep up as much as I can with reading.........

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Someone is deluded. I think Tippy is deluded if she thinks Kimmer will ever allow members to eat 1200 calories. BTW- Why is kimmer not fasting? I know when someone asked her about her weight loss, in a previous post, Kimmer stated that if she had it to do over again she would fast it all off.
Well, Kimmer this is supposed to be your "Do Over".

She is not fasting because she lacks the self discipline to do it. She is, in a word, a hypocrite! She berates others and calls them sissies, yet she cannot follow her own advice.

Originally Posted by whodat'sfat

Since this is a new thread and I’m a new member let me say hello.

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

A neighbor of ours has a sister that is about 300#. She just called yesterday and said her sister was taken to the hospital for being dehydrated and malnourished. She couldn't believe that could happen to someone who weighs 300#+. So you can be malnourished and still be overweight!

The Discovery Channel went to a weight loss clinic back east and filmed a documentary. One of the things they said is that when patients come to the clinic, initially they are malnourished. The reason is that people in that weight category often are eating massive amounts of junk food. So while their calorie intake is quite high, the nutritional value of the food is so poor that they are medically malnourished. The same thing goes for the KK program. The paltry amount of food Kimmer advised people to have was the equivalence of malnourishment.

[fluffybear2]

Originally Posted by Leashy

Isn't that where TT and/or Dr Mark live?

Zepherhills is indeed in the general Tampa Bay area of Florida and Dr. Mark was associated with a non-traditonal oriental school of medicine in Pinellas County just across the bay from Tampa which is also considered the Tampa Bay area. I seem to remember TT saying she was from Pasco County which is just north of Tampa, but I could be wrong about that. Anyway they are all on the west side of the Florida peninsula. I used to live in that area myself many years ago.

[LosingToLive]

where is the rest? Things that make you go Hmmmmmm.

[MJR]

From Kimmer....... (bolding by me)

Re:60 Minutes & Portion/Calories Hours, Minutes ago
Thank God, I thought I was the only one! Why don't I stop? On another TV show (you all must think I just watch TV all day), I think Primetime they did a food experiment where they had volunteers sit at a table with a plate of cookies. They were told they could eat the cookies if they wanted to. Lots of the people ate lots of cookies. So what?

The hosts (I'm thinking Diane Sawyer but I'm not sure) was amazed that some people ate 5-10 cookies. I couldn't understand what she was surprised about? Apparently a serving would be like 1-2. Oh really? Not to me ... which is why I stay away from cookies (or anything similar).

I think a lot of my food issues come from "will it still be there"? I've been poor and there wasn't always food. Sometimes you can't get that "what if" feeling out of your mind.

How's school?


Hey Kimmer,
Is that why you keep them on the front seat of your car?

[wackytobeme]

Originally Posted by Awakened

Hopefully the teachers involved are keeping their own dieting practices separate from their influence on kids. I'm sure they would....

I work with Jr. High'ers at my church.. and I wrote the following in my journal back in February ... while I was on and supportive of Kimkins.... this post is something I look back on now and think to myself.. wow... why didn't I realize what this MEANT?

(in reference to an upcoming youth group weekend retreat

My intentions were always good.. but somehow I forgot to apply this stuff to MYSELF...

I'm not sure why I'm posting this here today.. but I think that perhaps there's still people who are on Kimkins that have hidden exactly what they are eating from people who they have an influence on... so by posting this, I want to ask them outloud what I wish someone had asked me.... "If it's not something you would want your child to do, then why do you insist that it's okay for you to do it?"

This thought has been my greatest stumbling block to starting any diet that isn't appropriate for children or pregnant women, because if I have to keep that way of eating to maintain the weightloss, and it is safe, then my kids should be able to eat the same way too..right? Or if it is perfectly safe, why not during pregnancy also. Am I making any sense?
I did do Atkins several years ago, 6 months and 20lbs lost. It started out great but then degenerated to peanuts, low carb bars and protein shakes. (that's not atkins) The fact is if I have to do lot of planning to stay with it, I'll eventually lose motivation, even if I am losing. I think that's another reason KK is so appealing, not much to think about, especially if your not hungry.

ETA: the above 2 paragraphs are two totally different thoughts.

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by tiggerr

A guy died here last week, he was on a liquid only fast for 4 weeks.
Tell him he didn't die from low calories.

You mean a guy who lived where you live or from LCF?

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by Awakened

thanks everyone for your compliments on my blog today. Like I told Christin earlier today... I won't be happy with it until someone from inside Kimkins tells me that it opened their eyes.

You did a great job. I hope you get those testimonials that you're looking for but even if you don't, you have done the right thing, and you've done it well!

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by Jazlyn

I was telling someone about this earlier.

This is something weird I found. I googled Heidi Diaz and this people locator thing came up and I found a Heidi Kimberly Diaz and it said associated names Dennise Miller. So I look up Dennise Miller thinking it might be her sister or something since Heidi's maiden name is Miller (I think) I found a Dennise Miller in Zephyrhills Florida. It is just a weird spelling of Dennise. A lot of people are turning up in Zephyrhills.

Just such a tangled web.

Things that make you go hmmmmmm.............