Why the fascination with Kimmer? #10

[Crohnie]

Originally Posted by golite

Your neck of the woods does not dictate the mindset of the rest of the world.

You've been very rude here, statistics show that people tend to be more aggressive during a full moon.

As is proven by your thread in the playground.

I am never rude. I think your name calling was .....but I am over it. To each his own

[Crohnie]

Originally Posted by 2big4mysize

interesting that you run to the playground and start a topic about how you are being treated in this topic in your opinion (sorry new folk you can't go read it)
no one in this topic has said you are in cahoots with kimmer yet you ran down there and stated as fact you were.



No one in this topic has said you are crazy but again you run down to the playground as state it as fact



interesting that folk in this topic ask you what your purpose in your posts here were and you post this here that you were sticking up for itsthewooo cause folk were dumping on her yet you run to the playground and post this

and the point is?? I was accused of being "in bed: with Kimmer. I was defending myself. I can do that. It was said several times. I was told several times that I was only posting because there was a full moon. I do know what that means. It was directed to several people here.

What are we all accomplishing now is my question? Because I disagree with some of the posts here, then I am attacked too?

You are all becoming blinded by the cause

[LINC]

I think it is time to wrap up these threads in my opinion. They are just dragging the board down to kimmers level

Tom , I recommend this if you are reading. Isn't it time to move on??

This post by Crohnie removed. Crohnie's post in the PG also removed. I agree with her and add a big OY. What's being accomplished here now? I have been vocal about my opinion on Kimmer. She's a crook. Period. The word's out. She's been exposed. What was accomplished here X threads ago was amazing, but I'm also wondering why they keep adding new ones. The legal system may take years to resolve this. Is this thread going to continue for that long?

Lou

[SisterDi]

I'm not blaming any victims, not at all. In fact, the title of these threads says it all to me.

Why the fascination with Kimmer?

At this point, you are preaching to the choir about the evils of Kimkins. There is nothing more to be said. Learn from your experiences and move on! Enjoy the fellowship of people who are trying to lose weight in a more healthful way, and stop dwelling on the past. Kimmer has been exposed here, all over the internet, and on the news. For Pete's sake, do you need it to go to the Supreme Court before you will be satisfied?

There are bigger fish to be fried in this world, kids. And the holidays are upon us, so I really and truly hope you all can tear yourselves away from this "cause" long enough to enjoy them. That, or you can keep repeating yourselves for another 10 threads. Have a blast.

[mommedawne]

Holy toledo! I haven't looked at these Kimmer threads in eons. There sure are a lot of newish people here. I guess she's made herself notorious enough to warrant a spot on the map.

[LINC]

Originally Posted by SisterDi

I'm not blaming any victims, not at all. In fact, the title of these threads says it all to me.

Why the fascination with Kimmer?

At this point, you are preaching to the choir about the evils of Kimkins. There is nothing more to be said. Learn from your experiences and move on! Enjoy the fellowship of people who are trying to lose weight in a more healthful way, and stop dwelling on the past. Kimmer has been exposed here, all over the internet, and on the news. For Pete's sake, do you need it to go to the Supreme Court before you will be satisfied?

There are bigger fish to be fried in this world, kids. And the holidays are upon us, so I really and truly hope you all can tear yourselves away from this "cause" long enough to enjoy them. That, or you can keep repeating yourselves for another 10 threads. Have a blast.

I think really the fat lady has sung. Actually she's been deposed and is now claiming she's lost 28 pounds in the last month. What more is there to do? Really? She's burying herself at this point.

Lou

[2big4mysize]

yep LINk it need to go on as long as kimmer is running kimkins with an unsafe eating plan cause this topic shows up in the search engine results when folk google info about kimkins. it the facination topic stop then the information about the health issues and the scam fail to show. Also new info is being uncovered still
The discovery of the LLC was just a few days ago.

Keeping the truth about kimkins high in the search engines is one thing LCFs can do to make up for all the false info here in old kimmer posts

[LINC]

Originally Posted by 2big4mysize

yep LINk it need to go on as long as kimmer is running kimkins with an unsafe eating plan cause this topic shows up in the search engine results when folk google info about kimkins. it the facination topic stop then the information about the health issues and the scam fail to show. Also new info is being uncovered still
The discovery of the LLC was just a few days ago.

Keeping the truth about kimkins high in the search engines is one thing LCFs can do to make up for all the false info here in old kimmer posts

And you don't think the attorneys discovered the LLC too? Of course they did. They probably knew about it before we did. Keeping the Kimkins scam high in the search engines and keeping this thread alive are two different things. I'm not sure what it takes to keep the negative press going online, but I'm all for it. I just don't think this thread is it.

Lou

[BamaGal]

Just because Heidi has been exposed does not keep her from continuing to influence people out there in cyberland with her lies. Try googling Kimkins and see how many pro-KK sites pop up. Now there are many anti-KK sites. Suppose they were to stop or should this thread stop as you have suggested. Do you think Heidi is going to stop??

she is already hard at work posting articles under fictitious names---fake blogs are popping up also---

as for "tearing myself away from the 'cause'"

I have many such causes I advocate for---this is just one of them

Originally Posted by LINC

And you don't think the attorneys discovered the LLC too? Of course they did. They probably knew about it before we did. Keeping the Kimkins scam high in the search engines and keeping this thread alive are two different things. I'm not sure what it takes to keep the negative press going online, but I'm all for it. I just don't think this thread is it.

Lou

afraid not Lou---as it stands now this thread comes in 3rd on google---behind 2 pro-KK sites--

I get the majority of my info for my blogs from the various forums

[LINC]

Originally Posted by BamaGal

afraid not Lou---as it stands now this thread comes in 3rd on google---behind 2 pro-KK sites--

I get the majority of my info for my blogs from the various forums

But what are they getting out if it right now? I just googled Kimkins, and I got her website and then a bunch of anti-kimkins sites. I didn't see this thread. What did you google to find it? I'm not saying that these threads haven't been valuable. They have been. Enormously. But I'm beginning to wonder what value they have now, and I think that's what a lot of other people are asking now too. What do you get when you get a link to this website? Is it a link to here? Or a link to the original thread? Do you expect anyone to wade through all 10 threads if they googled Kimkins? There is a ton of valuable information here, but unless someone intends to get their BA in "Kimkins, The Scam", they aren't going to read through it all. And starting with this thread certainly isn't going to open anyone's eyes. It's like starting in the middle of a book. You'd read it and say "huh?" Maybe a better approach would be to have a recap of everything that's transpired on top of all these sticky's.

Lou

[WOOFY]

I for one can run all my holiday errands and still find the time to come back to LCF and vent and I won't stop until Heidi Diaz falls.

[BamaGal]

Originally Posted by LINC

But what are they getting out if it right now? I just googled Kimkins, and I got her website and then a bunch of anti-kimkins sites. I didn't see this thread. What did you google to find it? I'm not saying that these threads haven't been valuable. They have been. Enormously. But I'm beginning to wonder what value they have now, and I think that's what a lot of other people are asking now too. What do you get when you get a link to this website? Is it a link to here? Or a link to the original thread? Do you expect anyone to wade through all 10 threads if they googled Kimkins? There is a ton of valuable information here, but unless someone intends to get their BA in "Kimkins, The Scam", they aren't going to read through it all. And starting with this thread certainly isn't going to open anyone's eyes. It's like starting in the middle of a book. You'd read it and say "huh?" Maybe a better approach would be to have a recap of everything that's transpired on top of all these sticky's.

Lou

many of us agree there should be a time line synopsis at the top of the threads

but that would be like cliff notes---you lose alot of the real plot twists of the book--as you call these threads

[OhYeahBabe]

Originally Posted by wackytobeme

I'm going to revisit an old post from the KK site that was made on the Kimmer's 294 thread the day of the M & J Show.

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"The only wrong way to lose weight is to not lose weight. I know that I heard from Kimmer herself that any low carb maintenance program is the way to maintain your weight. I know for me when I want to maintain that I just keep away from high glycemic carbs and I try to eat moderately. I can have the occasional dessert, but then I may need to loose a few pounds again. If you are looking for a diet that helps you loose and then keep it off eating anything you want you are dreaming. You need to look at this as a life_style_ change.

As much as I don't like a lot of what Jimmy Moore has to say he has one thing dead on. To win the fight of obesity we need to change the way we think.


****** - If you want to loose on this plan jump in. If you need to find a maintenance plan first look at the other low carb diets for their ideas. The basic idea of maintenance is to find how many carbs you can eat without gaining, and keep your daily intake below that number. There is no formula other than that.

Good luck to you, whatever you choose to do."

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Okay, first off, is that what Kimmer was advocating for maintenance? I guess I never saw it.
Second, no one advocated going back to eating whatever...duh, that's why this person was wanting to know about long term maintenance, to determine if it could be incorporated into a long term lifestyle.
Third...look at other low carb diets for their ideas....but didn't people PAY for knowledge from THIS (kk) website.....

So what's the benefits of a paying membership if you have to search other (probably free) sites to find information?????

This was from someone who was fairly new I think...don't know if the thread even still exists. So why are people joining?

Right on, Wacky. I suppose they could actually write a mainenance plan if only anyone was ever actually successful at losing their weight using Kimkins, staying healthy, keeping the weight off, avoiding being banned, AND is not suing them. For some reason, all those magical success stories are people who managed to lose all their weight without actually having user IDs at Kimkins, the #1 support hub on the web, then got on with their lives, sharing only photos of themselves dressed up to look like Russian brides.

[wifezilla]

At this point, you are preaching to the choir about the evils of Kimkins. There is nothing more to be said.

New people keep stopping by all the time. That has been going on for months. Plenty more to be said to new readers. If you have had your fill, you know where the door is.

[pooticus]

Originally Posted by LosingToLive

We are being criticized for being “the duck squad” or the “anti Kimmer people”, but let’s NOT forget that “without us”…. she wouldn’t be brought to justice. (Are they helping, have they done ONE single thing to help? Probably NOT !)

This will NOT deter us from our agenda, she has harmed too many, and is still doing it.
Those dieters need us “WHEN they are ready”. We cannot lose focus of that, now or ever!!!

Ok, … blame the victim…..(whatever!)
How can you be on a board of strangers and ask for advice and not know who you are talking to?? How can Christin or anyone else be any different ? How are any of US any different???

Call us the” duck squad”….
Call us the “Anti Kimmer people”…..
WE will ALL be proud of those names !!!!!

We have heard your complaints about Kimmer, BUT what have you done to help bring her down? Nothing? Too busy? Have a life? WE do too, but we are trying to help others before they get hurt. Can you say the same?

She (and her PR person) have bad mouthed this site, but this is where it all began. They protected her, and wouldn’t allow anyone to bad mouth her. She has stabbed them in the back and you too. (you are part of this site right? After all , you come in here to complain or to brag or to talk about family and friends?)
This is where is all started, and this is the site that will do whatever is possible to STOP her from harming others.

Please excuse my attitude; this is getting out of hand. It’s like there are people out there are people trying to get US to stop.
I hate to tell you but “its NOT going to happen”. Call us any name you want…. WE will wear it with PRIDE !!!

We may NOT have 10,000 + posts.... but our message is important too.

Hi I don't know if you are posting this to me or not but I choose to perceive you are so I would like to make a couple of things very clear for the record.

I have nothing but respect for the mission of "the Duck Squad" as you call them. I am not against yall. On the contrary I hope you succeed in closing down Kimmer's shop. I hope you succeed in educating unwary people. I hope you succeed in raising awareness of this International problem (the scamming of desperate people). I hope you succeed in helping them transition and recover.

I changed my icon back from a duck once I understood what it meant, because legitimately, I am not one of you. I am not fighting to help. I don't have the reserves of strength or energy to do that right now. I have been fighting my own health probs this past year and I'm drained. Yes that's selfish but I have no other choice right now. So what I am doing here is trying, selfishily, is to work through my feelings about being marginalized and hurt by Kimmer and by many of her followers here at LCF. I can only be a spectator for now and a commentator.

I don't intentionally want to hurt anyone, nor be vindictive. I apologize to any for coming across that way. I am trying to cauterize wounds for feeling that because I'm fat and have been unsuccessful at losing the weight until now, that I don't have a right to open my mouth and give advice or help to anyone. I am really pisssssed off about being made to feel that way. And I'm trying to forgive and move on.

As far as having 10000+ posts...that doesn't make me any better than anyone else here, even the poster with 1 post. It is an irrelevent number. I have something to learn from everyone here. Each person has value and merit and opinions that may differ from mine but are important none the less. I take each person seriously.

That's just my 2 cents.

[gibster]

Originally Posted by MJR

From the Kimpound....

Mike and juliet show Hours, Minutes ago
I've seen quite a few reports on this diet, besides mike and juliet. I did the diet this summer, not perfectly. I did lose 12 pounds. It probaly just made me more conscious, but I felt very restricted. I'm hestitant to ever continue, escpecially with all the health concerns that are out there. I never bought into the low calorie thing. How do your respond to all the alligations, especially since Heidi seems to be a farce? Curious?


Tippy's response...

Re:Mike and juliet show Hours, Minutes ago
I'm not sure who you meant this for. But my 2 cents is this: No diet should ever be started without your Doctor's approval. Not all Doctor's approve of a low carb approach. If you believe in a low carb approach, find a Doctor who does too. Take the Doctor the Kimkins plans you want to use. Upon approval, stick to the plans as written and don't use what people call "the plan behind the plan'. Kimkins does not have to be taken to the extreme for weight loss. Ask your Doctor to recommend supplements for you as well.
The health complications that come from being over weight are far greater an importance than the founder's personal life, in my opinion

And Kimmer's response.....

Re:Mike and juliet show xx Hours, Minutes ago
Kimkins works if you work it. We're tremendously proud of our members' weight loss successes! If Kimkins isn't right for you, please find something that will work to give you the motivation to stay on track and reach goal.
Or ... check in on my Challenge and jump in. Lots of recommitting and refocusing going on. I've lost 31 pounds and my goal is to HIT GOAL by my birthday in May.
Come on and join us at the Kimmer's Back On Track Challenge!


What happened to that BAN BUTTON????

Sooooo.......now what? If someone decides that Kimkins isn't for them, are they offered a REFUND????

Originally Posted by MJR

Wow
With ALL this hoopla going on here
I almost missed this...

Kimkin's Diet For Holly


And here is Tippy's response to it:

Holly, I watched your video Hours, Minutes ago
All I can say is great job! I am sure you will be faced with many emails from naysayers even though you asked them not to respond. Just wanted to say that I am watching your progress with great interest! Also, wanted to tell you how proud I am to see you there, sticking up for not only Kimkins diet but for yourself as well. YOU ROCK!

In case anyone else wants to follow Holly's progress, click here: http://whoishollypowell.net

How can I post your video blog too?


I think it's time to get back to work. Enough of the distraction. If we
don't keep at it - the Anti-Anti Kimkins will win.

I think it's interesting that Holly's blog still has Russian Brides on it for
all the world to see.

This has got to be an affiliate site. Is that a real photo of Holly at the top??? The wording of the blog sounds suspiciously like Hidey to me.

Originally Posted by SisterDi

I'm not blaming any victims, not at all. In fact, the title of these threads says it all to me.

Why the fascination with Kimmer?

At this point, you are preaching to the choir about the evils of Kimkins. There is nothing more to be said. Learn from your experiences and move on! Enjoy the fellowship of people who are trying to lose weight in a more healthful way, and stop dwelling on the past. Kimmer has been exposed here, all over the internet, and on the news. For Pete's sake, do you need it to go to the Supreme Court before you will be satisfied?

There are bigger fish to be fried in this world, kids. And the holidays are upon us, so I really and truly hope you all can tear yourselves away from this "cause" long enough to enjoy them. That, or you can keep repeating yourselves for another 10 threads. Have a blast.

These threads are serving the same purpose as they always have. A place to vent, support, and to coordinate efforts.

[Crohnie]

Originally Posted by wifezilla

New people keep stopping my all the time. That has been going on for months. Plenty more to be said to new readers. If you have had your fill, you know where the door is.

ummm...the kimmer diet is a diet allowed to post at LCF..........anti at the top pro in other plans. New people are joining here to join the diet also

[**Lola**]

What is the duck squad?

[2big4mysize]

Originally Posted by Crohnie

ummm...the kimmer diet is a diet allowed to post at LCF..........anti at the top pro in other plans. New people are joining here to join the diet also

yes new folk come to LCFs asking about kimkins and if you look in this forum most of them have been warned about the nalmutrition issues with the eating plan and the fraud Heidi Diaz has commited. Armed with that knowledge most move to other low carb plans.

Since you argued with kimmer about those same issues back in the days you also know most of the folk in the continuing kimmer diet topics have "tweaked" the plan and are not in the words of Kimmer doing Kimkins. Why they chose to continue to label their eating plan kimkins and give the false impression they are following that nutritonally bankrupt plan is something they will need to figure out for themselves. Hopefully they will reach the same conclusion the former memebers of kimkins.con have and not give free advertizment for Kimkins and the false impression it is a healthy way to shed body fat.

Winslow is an example of why the topics should continue . She has posted she came to speak up for her old "friend" Kimmer after seeing the recent TV show only to discover that friend never existed and was conning her even back then.

Pooticus Take time for yourself to recover from your health issues and when you are ready put your duckface on and come back ready to help save folk from Kimmer and kimkins as you were so willing to try back in those days you were vilified for doing so.

[Locarb4me]

Originally Posted by pooticus

Hi I don't know if you are posting this to me or not but I choose to perceive you are so I would like to make a couple of things very clear for the record.

I have nothing but respect for the mission of "the Duck Squad" as you call them. I am not against yall. On the contrary I hope you succeed in closing down Kimmer's shop. I hope you succeed in educating unwary people. I hope you succeed in raising awareness of this International problem (the scamming of desperate people). I hope you succeed in helping them transition and recover.

I changed my icon back from a duck once I understood what it meant, because legitimately, I am not one of you. I am not fighting to help. I don't have the reserves of strength or energy to do that right now. I have been fighting my own health probs this past year and I'm drained. Yes that's selfish but I have no other choice right now. So what I am doing here is trying, selfishily, is to work through my feelings about being marginalized and hurt by Kimmer and by many of her followers here at LCF. I can only be a spectator for now and a commentator.

I don't intentionally want to hurt anyone, nor be vindictive. I apologize to any for coming across that way. I am trying to cauterize wounds for feeling that because I'm fat and have been unsuccessful at losing the weight until now, that I don't have a right to open my mouth and give advice or help to anyone. I am really pisssssed off about being made to feel that way. And I'm trying to forgive and move on.

As far as having 10000+ posts...that doesn't make me any better than anyone else here, even the poster with 1 post. It is an irrelevent number. I have something to learn from everyone here. Each person has value and merit and opinions that may differ from mine but are important none the less. I take each person seriously.

That's just my 2 cents.

Pooticus, In my book you are good people!! I'm glad you did come to this thread and hang for a while.

I'm sorry you've been made to feel as though you had nothing worthwhile to offer. I hope you'll be able to heal from that and move on. I think you probably have a great deal to offer--and should. Take care.

[Locarb4me]

Originally Posted by LINC

And you don't think the attorneys discovered the LLC too? Of course they did. They probably knew about it before we did. Keeping the Kimkins scam high in the search engines and keeping this thread alive are two different things. I'm not sure what it takes to keep the negative press going online, but I'm all for it. I just don't think this thread is it.

Lou

Lou, as has been pointed out many times in this thread, there are multiple purposes being served in this thread. Some of us are still trying to get the word out and uncover new variances on the Kimmer scam. Some of us need the place to hang with like-minded souls on our healing journey from Kimkins.

There are other places on this forum I don't personally spend time but I would never jump into those places and tell them they don't have the right to post their various and sundry posts. This is a community and I believe it's big enough for all of us.

Originally Posted by SisterDi
I'm not blaming any victims, not at all. In fact, the title of these threads says it all to me.

Why the fascination with Kimmer?

At this point, you are preaching to the choir about the evils of Kimkins. There is nothing more to be said. Learn from your experiences and move on! Enjoy the fellowship of people who are trying to lose weight in a more healthful way, and stop dwelling on the past. Kimmer has been exposed here, all over the internet, and on the news. For Pete's sake, do you need it to go to the Supreme Court before you will be satisfied?

There are bigger fish to be fried in this world, kids. And the holidays are upon us, so I really and truly hope you all can tear yourselves away from this "cause" long enough to enjoy them. That, or you can keep repeating yourselves for another 10 threads. Have a blast.

We are, SisterDi, we sure are having a blast! As for preaching to the choir, yes, that's true but only to an extent. If you read the past several pages you'll see that new people come in all the time and thank us for the work we're doing here. And that work hasn't stopped yet.

And thank you for reminding us that there are more important things in life than the Kimmer threads. And yeah, if we can take this to the Supreme Court, if that's what it takes, right on!!