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Old 11-23-2007, 02:49 PM   #751
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The media attention has got people looking into the diet. Which is a 2 edged sword as we all know. you can still google KK and find many of Heidi's dummy sites. but there are also plenty of anti-KK sites popping up too. not like in the beginning---the anti sites were buried pages back

I can also tell by my blog stats that people are seeing the shows on tv----

the first time the morning show was on---- my stats jumped way up----today is the same---as well as a spike when Christin was on in Texas
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Old 11-23-2007, 02:54 PM   #752
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Sissypoo - and all the others who felt desperate enough to do Kimkins

Way back when I would periodically read what she was posting and - I'll admit this because I know someone here will understand, even if most of you don't - one of the many reasons I didn't do what she was advocating was that I was too weak to do it. I knew there was no way I could not eat that few calories. For brief moments back then I felt like a failure, sure that I was doomed to be fat even though others claimed her system worked so well.

I toward the end of her time here/maybe right after she left I posted in one of the threads devoted to her and her plan - I asked, , the folks posting 'how are going to keep the weight off when you've lost your weight. Well duh, I was basically told off, they were all going to keep eating Kimkins for the rest of their lives. I slunk back out, wondering again if I was just weak instead of cognizant of the absurdity of such low carb, low fat, low satisfaction, low chance of successfully doing it for the rest of my life eating.

edited to add: Remember, Kimmer and her crew made people feel like failures for not sticking to their woe. They were all very good at that; Kimmer had a special talent that was totally malicious wrapped in reasonableness. The best con artists are the ones who can get others to help them con, without them being aware of it.
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Old 11-23-2007, 03:32 PM   #753
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2big..ITA! good post. I didn't know about this site when I joined the other site.

Tanner...are you saying pooticus also posted that on the KK site or a thread different thread here?
A different thread that IsthatWoo posted on this forum, the one that Julia asked to take a look at.
Maybe I have thread confusion though..

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Old 11-23-2007, 04:34 PM   #754
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Around the first of June, I was just starting Atkins and googled low carb to find more info. That's where I found Jimmy Moore's blog. The reason it stuck out to me is because I really like Ricky Martin so the "livin' la vida low carb" sounded good. I had never tried low carb dieting.
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...the infection is back. My foot and ankle are beet red and swollen. So now I am back on antibiotics for the fourth time. My hair has been falling out for the past two months. Plus I've been following atkins to the letter and have lost no more weight. My dr is going to be running tests to see if there is a medical reason why I can't seem to lose anymore weight. You know, in a way I want him to find something. But I'm also afraid of what he may find.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean for this to be so long. I usually just lurk here. But the people who haven't been in the kimkins atmosphere (here or there) really don't know what it was like. Members of my family have been almost cruel to me about following this woe. I feel like a fool. And I am an intelligent, educated woman. But there isn't a day that goes by that I don't think about going back on it just to get these last few pounds off.
Awww, Sissy, life seems so unfair, doesn't it? But I'm sure your doctor will also tell you that the first order of business is to GET WELL! Sick bodies that lose weight often have a serious underlying condition not due to simply controlling calories. That's probably what scares you. I remember reading some advice by Dr.(Give me a minute; memory's rusting) Kenneth Cooper? -sounds right, who advised a dieting colleague to give up dieting and eat whatever she wanted for a short while. Then she started on the plan he devised, and the weight started coming off. IOW, once we're healthy, and find the healthiest way of eating and exercising, weight loss is inevitable since that is the way the body is programmed. BTW, what does intelligence have to do with emotions? That is one of the biggest fallacies I hear - that somehow logic will override poor decisions based on emotions. Little do they know!:
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Sissypoo,

Please be very aggressive with your Dr and staph. Are they taking cultures to determine the best antibiotics to rid you of this? My husband's horror with MRSA includes 2 weeks in ICU with Dr. telling me they don't know if he'll make it, followed with 4 months in hospital and the loss of 100 lbs. In his recovery he had to learn to sit, eat, & walk again. He had cellulitis in his leg (red and swollen and warm) before he went into septic shock. I'm not trying to scare you, just want you to know that it can get very ugly fast. Please take care!
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I have to say to anyone who thinks Christin is speaking out just for attention is way off base. From my own personal experience in a TOTALLY different way, I felt as though I had been a party to allowing someone to hurt others because I didn't speak up. That guilt has been a terrible, terrible burden that I've carried with me for years. Only recently have I come to terms with it.

From what Christin has said here and on her blog, it seems to me she feels very guilty for unknowingly helping Heidi spread the word about her dangerous and defective diet. IMO, Christin has no reason to feel guilty! But, I believe that she does and THAT is what motivates her to speak out and try to shut KK's down. Nothing more.

Whomever said she's just looking for attention - you've got a right to think that if you want. But, man oh man, I'm sure glad my brain doesn't work like yours!
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Please be very aggressive with your Dr and staph. Are they taking cultures to determine the best antibiotics to rid you of this? My husband's horror with MRSA includes 2 weeks in ICU with Dr. telling me they don't know if he'll make it, followed with 4 months in hospital and the loss of 100 lbs. In his recovery he had to learn to sit, eat, & walk again. He had cellulitis in his leg (red and swollen and warm) before he went into septic shock. I'm not trying to scare you, just want you to know that it can get very ugly fast. Please take care!

How horrible! When the sore first appeared on my lower leg, it just looked like a sore. About a week later I woke up with my leg and foot swelled up and red. The ER dr said he just thought it was cellulitis and not MRSA and gave me a script for keflex. When that didn't help, my dr gave me a script for Bactroban cream which didn't help. Then they did the culture. First they said it was MRSA and put me on Clindamycin. After about a week on that, it got better. When I went back to the dr he said that it must not have been MRSA. But the lab results said MRSA.

That was two months ago. My foot really looks worse now than it did. And it's never been completely fine. It has gotten swollen and red at night since Sept. I have been concerned about developing lymphoedema. Maybe that should be the least of my worries.
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sissy...take care of yourself. I know someone who had to go through 4 different antibotics before they found one that worked. it just takes time on some. hope they find the one for you that works good. I'm allergic to any Bactrim type antibotics and break out in a rash....
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When Kimmer was here at LCF, unpopular opinions were unwelcome (at best!). Now, this board should be a place for DISCUSSION, not mere repetition of the party line.
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:17 PM   #761
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Agreed, Mavis. No need to be sorry, that's what makes this a great country. But why is it o.k. for Woo to question Christin, but when I question Woo I'm "shaming" her? (in the words of Pooticus)

Woo can say this:

and this:


But when I challenge her right to question Christin's motives, I'm "cesuring" her?
When you challenge her RIGHT to question, yes, imo, you're "censuring." (i.e., "What right do you have to question her motive?")

However, imo, when you challenge her conclusion, you are discussing. (i.e., "Your conclusion is wrong because A, B, C.")
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I don't mean to "Threadjack" here, but a few pages back I mentioned that we needed a thread where Old timers and Newbies could get together to Support and Share with each other.

I started a Thread in the Challenge room (It's the only room I could think of to put the thread). All are welcome.

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Sissypoo,

Please be very aggressive with your Dr and staph. Are they taking cultures to determine the best antibiotics to rid you of this? My husband's horror with MRSA includes 2 weeks in ICU with Dr. telling me they don't know if he'll make it, followed with 4 months in hospital and the loss of 100 lbs. In his recovery he had to learn to sit, eat, & walk again. He had cellulitis in his leg (red and swollen and warm) before he went into septic shock. I'm not trying to scare you, just want you to know that it can get very ugly fast. Please take care!
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How horrible! When the sore first appeared on my lower leg, it just looked like a sore. About a week later I woke up with my leg and foot swelled up and red. The ER dr said he just thought it was cellulitis and not MRSA and gave me a script for keflex. When that didn't help, my dr gave me a script for Bactroban cream which didn't help. Then they did the culture. First they said it was MRSA and put me on Clindamycin. After about a week on that, it got better. When I went back to the dr he said that it must not have been MRSA. But the lab results said MRSA.

That was two months ago. My foot really looks worse now than it did. And it's never been completely fine. It has gotten swollen and red at night since Sept. I have been concerned about developing lymphoedema. Maybe that should be the least of my worries.
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sissy...take care of yourself. I know someone who had to go through 4 different antibotics before they found one that worked. it just takes time on some. hope they find the one for you that works good. I'm allergic to any Bactrim type antibotics and break out in a rash....
This is nothing to take lightly...... My "baby" sister (only 44 yrs old) spent 14 weeks in the hospital (has been out 2 weeks now) dealing with cellulitus, septic shock, and MRSA.... She was airlifted in and given a 40% chance of making it.... We are lucky she is still here.... She is still in a wheelchair, and we are hoping that with the intensive therapy she will be able to walk again...

Take care of yourself PLEASE.....
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Sissy,

Can you get to an infectious disease DR? The best approach is to grow the culture and see which antibiotic will do the best for the particular strain (strains) you have. Taking an antibiotic that just suppresses the staph can be followed by a rebound that is more severe than the original infection. It sounds like you have dealt with this infection long enough to justify a specialist.

MRSA is difficult to treat because there are a limited number of antibiotics that will work for it. Believe me when I say that MRSA infections can become life threatening very quickly. My husband went into septic shock, all his organs were failing, most people who get to that point do not live past it. He is doing OK now but has permanent disabilities from this illness. He had been taking one antibiotic after another getting slightly better than showing signs of infection.

My point is that I see many similarities in what you describe and what my husband went through before it became life threatening. I don’t want to worry you but, I do hope that you will be very aggressive in getting the correct treatment. Please take care of yourself.

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Sissypoo, I just had to say that I really hope all goes well with you. Keep us updated.

And please don't worry about diet and weight loss now. I was recently diagnosed Insulin Resistant and Hypothyroid. I actually believe that BOTH stem from remaining way too long on an ultra low carb diet. But the good news is I just started medication and without trying AT ALL, I have already lost 20 lbs. So there is hope.
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How horrible! When the sore first appeared on my lower leg, it just looked like a sore. About a week later I woke up with my leg and foot swelled up and red. The ER dr said he just thought it was cellulitis and not MRSA and gave me a script for keflex. When that didn't help, my dr gave me a script for Bactroban cream which didn't help. Then they did the culture. First they said it was MRSA and put me on Clindamycin. After about a week on that, it got better. When I went back to the dr he said that it must not have been MRSA. But the lab results said MRSA.

That was two months ago. My foot really looks worse now than it did. And it's never been completely fine. It has gotten swollen and red at night since Sept. I have been concerned about developing lymphoedema. Maybe that should be the least of my worries.
I will keep you in My Prayers I developed Lymphedema after a Cellulitis infection. I have Primary which means it was already in My System just waiting for an outlet. The good thing you have to advantage is you will be looking for it and first stage lymphedema can be reversed, mine is for life. I do not wish what I have been through in the last 10 years on anyone and I am always happy when someone can catch it in time
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Mike and juliet show Hours, Minutes ago
I've seen quite a few reports on this diet, besides mike and juliet. I did the diet this summer, not perfectly. I did lose 12 pounds. It probaly just made me more conscious, but I felt very restricted. I'm hestitant to ever continue, escpecially with all the health concerns that are out there. I never bought into the low calorie thing. How do your respond to all the alligations, especially since Heidi seems to be a farce? Curious?


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Re:Mike and juliet show Hours, Minutes ago
I'm not sure who you meant this for. But my 2 cents is this: No diet should ever be started without your Doctor's approval. Not all Doctor's approve of a low carb approach. If you believe in a low carb approach, find a Doctor who does too. Take the Doctor the Kimkins plans you want to use. Upon approval, stick to the plans as written and don't use what people call "the plan behind the plan'. Kimkins does not have to be taken to the extreme for weight loss. Ask your Doctor to recommend supplements for you as well.
The health complications that come from being over weight are far greater an importance than the founder's personal life, in my opinion

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Re:Mike and juliet show xx Hours, Minutes ago
Kimkins works if you work it. We're tremendously proud of our members' weight loss successes! If Kimkins isn't right for you, please find something that will work to give you the motivation to stay on track and reach goal.
Or ... check in on my Challenge and jump in. Lots of recommitting and refocusing going on. I've lost 31 pounds and my goal is to HIT GOAL by my birthday in May.
Come on and join us at the Kimmer's Back On Track Challenge!


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My husband also came home in a wheelchair. I was close to feeling hopeless that he would recover. With therapy he gained strength to walk with a walker, then a cane then unassisted. At first it may seem like it was not going to happen. But as she gets stronger improvements come quicker. It took 10 months before he could drive again. My husband is three years out from his illness and from where he came from he is functions pretty good. I'll be praying for your sister's recovery.

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And the Dingbats thought banning all of us would shut us up!?! LOL!!! Its like slapping a hornets nest!
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Pam, I'm so glad you sister is recovering. That must have been terrible for her and your family.

Jean, ok you sufficiently scared me enough to call my dr about seeing a specialist. The funny? thing is when I went to the dr, it was a regularly scheduled appt and I had broken my little toe on that foot two days before. So when he came in the room, I had my foot out of my shoe (mainly because it felt better that way). He noticed my foot immediately. Not because my toe was bruised, but because my foot and ankle were so red and swollen. I was so used to seeing it that way, I didn't even think about it being a problem still. He spent the better part of 15 minutes checking out my foot. I really wasn't too concerned about it until yesterday. My toe doesn't even hurt anymore, but my foot and ankle hurt alot! It feels like I'm having severe cramps in my foot.

Eve, that's wonderful that you got a correct diagnosis and treatment. I'm sorry that you have the problem, but getting a solution is so difficult. I hope you continue to feel better and lose weight.

I really appreciate everyone's concern. I've been following these threads for the past three months. Most everyone on here seems like old friends to me. Very good people!
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I will keep you in My Prayers I developed Lymphedema after a Cellulitis infection. I have Primary which means it was already in My System just waiting for an outlet. The good thing you have to advantage is you will be looking for it and first stage lymphedema can be reversed, mine is for life. I do not wish what I have been through in the last 10 years on anyone and I am always happy when someone can catch it in time
I'm really sorry that you have suffered with this. I've seen TV shows with people suffering from lymphedema and it seems like a horrible disease. Thank you so much for your prayers.
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Sissy: Prayers for your healing and finding a specialist for your infection. Malnutrition is something that people don't realize can cause lots of problems. Thanks for sharing your
Kimkins experience and warnings!! Hopefully, you have saved someone from going what you are facing now..Please keep us updated on your foot/ankle..
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Thank you! I think I responded to Woo in a very respectful way.

Pooticus - why is it 'cesuring' or 'shaming' when I disagree with Woo, but when she disagrees with those who think Christin is not just an attention-seeker, she's "expressing her feelings"?
Hi Julia, I answered you on the other thread so as not to t/j this one. Thanks!
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