Why the fascination with Kimmer? #10

[McLurkypants]

Originally Posted by Baby PHAT

Oh okay.

I have her fitday url so I would never have paid her a dime.

Of course, NOW you know that her fitday entries are as made-up as the success stories were.

Hmm. Wonder how Fitday would feel about their service being used to perpetuate a scam??

And that right there is how it has been working here, BabyPHAT. Fitday is another potential avenue to be explored to pressure Heidi to abandon her continuing criminal activity. So is it a lynch mob if fifty of us go running over to Fitday to lodge complaints about how Heidi's using it as part of a criminally fraudulent scheme? I don't think so.

Posse? That's more like it. Where did all those detective badges go anyway?

It's so infuriating. She is still at it like gangbusters as we speak, and according to that post from Beckynet, Heidi is living high on the hog as we say here in the south :-) New house, new carS? All those $60's add up. Man, let's see her Fitday URL. Is she still posting over there? I wouldn't believe a word that came from her fingers, mouth, or anywhere else at this point.

OK. I'm moving on for now. Got my sugar-free pumpkin cheesecake & I'm ready for a great day with family tomorrow. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

[Katinsac]

when I looked at Kimmer's Fitday from the time she stated she had lost the weight in 11 months...it looked like she was doing Atkins, not her own diet...

[Chelveston]

Originally Posted by SMP

I read that posting as "He works WITH them, not FOR them; so his address won't be the one listed for AAA. Too tired to wrestle with any more puzzling "facts" tonight.

You'd think that, but he's listed in the FindLaw directory at the AAA address

Brian R. Pugh - an Orange, California (CA) Law Firm

Brian R. Pugh
Address: Suite 24
4122 E Chapman Ave
Orange, CA 92869-4054

Funny, no Brian Pugh listed with the California State Bar Association

State Bar of CA :: Attorney Search


SMP, not meaning to mess with your brain at this late hour. Just scratching my head about it. (ETA: The Pugh stuff, not your brain!)

[Katinsac]

wonder how often the update the Bar website? maybe he is fairly new and not in the system yet?

[Bunnymuffin]

Looking at the information presented, it looks like Mr. Brian Pugh is a paralegal that has used AAA Attorney Services. What concerns me is that there are references to him being an attorney but not being registered with the California Bar Association. To practice law in California he has to be registered with the CBA. If he has ever legally practiced law in California he would be listed there with a status of some sort.

Here is a list of things a PARALEGAL cannot do according to California Law:

b) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), a paralegal shall not do the
following:
(1) Provide legal advice.
(2) Represent a client in court.
(3) Select, explain, draft, or recommend the use of any legal
document to or for any person other than the attorney who directs and
supervises the paralegal.
(4) Act as a runner or capper, as defined in Sections 6151 and
6152.
(5) Engage in conduct that constitutes the unlawful practice of
law. (6) Contract with, or be employed by, a natural person other than
an attorney to perform paralegal services.
(7) In connection with providing paralegal services, induce a
person to make an investment, purchase a financial product or
service, or enter a transaction from which income or profit, or both,
purportedly may be derived.
(8) Establish the fees to charge a client for the services the
paralegal performs, which shall be established by the attorney who
supervises the paralegal's work. This paragraph does not apply to
fees charged by a paralegal in a contract to provide paralegal
services to an attorney, law firm, corporation, governmental agency,
or other entity as provided in subdivision
WAIS Document Retrieval

So unless something else comes to light, Mr. Pugh may be as shady as our lady.


Angelia

[HoneyBee2]

Oddly enough the address that is listed for this attorney Brian Pugh for the llc license does not link to any business. LINK
BRIAN R PUGH
1421 W WANDA RD #110
ORANGE, CA 92867

The address is close to an actual attorney by the name of Gregory Baker:LINK
Gregory A Baker Law Office
1421 N. Wanda Rd. #180
Orange, CA
SO then if you go to google maps it appears that Wanda Rd does not run West?
There is no W Wanda only N Wanda-
LINK

The phone number-(714) 771-7755-shown in an ad for Brian Pugh LINK
when searched the phone number goes to a record store?
Vanishing Point Records Inc
Categories: Music Production, Record Labels
1030 North Main Street, Orange, CA 92867
(714) 771-7755

Somebody got some "splainin" to do

[Tanner]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

In general where we were with things:

I think we were talking about how Brandon and Dennis probably were more involved in this than previously thought by many.
LL pointed out that Dennis had a plumbing service listed online with the same address as Kimkins.com and a few of us were searching the phone number. The phone number comes up with the same number listed for a "fake" kimkins' staff member Amanda Hollbrook.
I know I said wonder how Dennis would know how to announce the phone if he didn't know about kimkins and the lies.

We were also discussing how Kimmer was still manipulating the photos on her site and Becky commented how the deposition was video taped.

I will have to go back and look to see more specifics but that is what I recall off the top of my noggin.

I do want to point out that basically since Kimmer had been absent from kimkins we had not heard from much in way of either those who supported kimkins or from those who thought what we were doing was wrong, for whatever reason.
The timing may simply be that the Queen bee has returned to the hive.

Thanks HBee!
I think you have a valid point abt the Queen B too.. have not heard of any bannings from over there though... ? TT and Singsing have been pretty quiet too.

btw - do I need to be snipping most of the top part of this message btwn the quotes to save space?

[Bunnymuffin]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Vanishing Point Records Inc

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OHHH! Vanishing Point can be their next ad campaign! "Kimkins, redefining your Vanishing Point!"




Angelia

[Chelveston]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Oddly enough the address that is listed for this attorney Brian Pugh for the llc license does not link to any business. LINK
BRIAN R PUGH
1421 W WANDA RD #110
ORANGE, CA 92867

The address is close to an actual attorney by the name of Gregory Baker:LINK
Gregory A Baker Law Office
1421 N. Wanda Rd. #180
Orange, CA
SO then if you go to google maps it appears that Wanda Rd does not run West?
There is no W Wanda only N Wanda-
LINK

The phone number-(714) 771-7755-shown in an ad for Brian Pugh LINK
when searched the phone number goes to a record store?
Vanishing Point Records Inc
Categories: Music Production, Record Labels
1030 North Main Street, Orange, CA 92867
(714) 771-7755

Somebody got some "splainin" to do

It's almost as if someone didn't want to be found.

[McLurkypants]

Originally Posted by Bunnymuffin

Looking at the information presented, it looks like Mr. Brian Pugh is a paralegal that has used AAA Attorney Services. What concerns me is that there are references to him being an attorney but not being registered with the California Bar Association. To practice law in California he has to be registered with the CBA. If he has ever legally practiced law in California he would be listed there with a status of some sort.
~snip~

In my opinion, this whole Brian Pugh thing is a red herring. One does not have to be an attorney to be a "Registered Agent for Service of Process." As noted earlier, corporations are usually required to have a Registered Agent for Service of Process, so a business niche has grown up around this function. In my experience, people of all stripes perform this function, from attorneys, to paralegals, to business people of all kinds.

I agree that this guy being listed in a couple of places as an attorney is puzzling, given that he's not listed with the CBA. However, it is possible that the listing services where this info is being picked up are inaccurate. Whatever he does, Pugh has been associated in one way or another with several law firms and legal service agencies. One source where I saw him listed as an attorney was "Findlaw." They're a decent site, but not known for the accuracy of their directory listings by any means. They harvest info from various other sources & don't always get it right.

For what it's worth, my best guess is that Pugh is a paralegal or process server who makes a few extra bucks serving as a corporate registered agent.

[Tanner]

Originally Posted by MJR

Ok
We got off track around page 6

Kimmers photoshopped front page picture - How did she do it? (Brandon?)
I wonder if Brandon (oops I mean the tech guy) is still sick?
Photoshopped green bracelet possibly covering up old watch
Dennis Sharp - Plumbing - same number & address as Heidi
LLC name found - what is it's meaning?
Kimkins articles (articals) popping up everywhere

Where is Tippy?

Ok guys what am I forgetting?

Looks good to me! TY !

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

wonder how often the update the Bar website? maybe he is fairly new and not in the system yet?

The LLC license was stated as "date filed"- Date Filed: 9/24/2007
So we should assume he was licensed if he is a licensed attorney at that time.

The California Bar website does not show him currently and I did find where a totally different attorney was admitted to the bar list in October.
J. Sarte - #250743 10/13/2007- Admitted to The State Bar of California

Based on those two things I think it would be safe to say that the state bar would have Brian Pugh listed by now if he was practicing on 9-24-2007.

[Chelveston]

Originally Posted by McLurkypants

In my opinion, this whole Brian Pugh thing is a red herring. One does not have to be an attorney to be a "Registered Agent for Service of Process." As noted earlier, corporations are usually required to have a Registered Agent for Service of Process, so a business niche has grown up around this function. In my experience, people of all stripes perform this function, from attorneys, to paralegals, to business people of all kinds.

The reason it is not a red herring is the agent of service is where the LLC would be served a summons. The other address on the LLC registration is the mail drop that Heidi was photographed in front of.

It's perfectly legitimate to check to see if the agent is at the address listed. When dealing with kimkins, it's the only prudent thing to do.

Strangely, it seems that he's not, AND that address doesn't seem to exist.

Um...could that cause Heidi legal problems?

Unless...Tippy did the LLC registration, but things were spelled right; they were just incorrect.

ETA: I never said that he had to be an attorney. The "attorney" that doesn't seem to be listed at the State Bar happens to have the same name as Kimkins' agent, who happens to be at a seemingly erroneous address. Hmmmm....

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by McLurkypants

In my opinion, this whole Brian Pugh thing is a red herring. One does not have to be an attorney to be a "Registered Agent for Service of Process." As noted earlier, corporations are usually required to have a Registered Agent for Service of Process, so a business niche has grown up around this function. In my experience, people of all stripes perform this function, from attorneys, to paralegals, to business people of all kinds.

I agree that this guy being listed in a couple of places as an attorney is puzzling, given that he's not listed with the CBA. However, it is possible that the listing services where this info is being picked up are inaccurate. Whatever he does, Pugh has been associated in one way or another with several law firms and legal service agencies. One source where I saw him listed as an attorney was "Findlaw." They're a decent site, but not known for the accuracy of their directory listings by any means. They harvest info from various other sources & don't always get it right.

For what it's worth, my best guess is that Pugh is a paralegal or process server who makes a few extra bucks serving as a corporate registered agent.

The phone number listed for Brian Pugh on "Findlaw" goes to a record store and the address stated on the LLC does not exist.
I would think the paperwork for the LLC would have to be accurate for the individual listed as the agent.
Something is off with the entire thing, because the phone number associated with the person and the address should not be invalid or going to incorrect businesses.

ETA- Happy Thanksgiving to you too Mclurky! I got my sugar free cranberry-orange sauce, pumpkin mousse, deviled eggs, sausage balls w/almond meal and pumpkin-sausage soup all ready to take to my families home tomorrow! Yummy

[McLurkypants]

Originally Posted by Chelveston

The reason it is not a red herring is the agent of service is where the LLC would be served a summons. The other address on the LLC registration is the mail drop that Heidi was photographed in front of.
~snip~

I was unclear. What I mean is that I think whether he's an attorney is a red herring.

And if Heidi's registered agent has given a bogus address & she ends up not receiving critical legal documents that have been served to the address listed for her agent, that won't hurt anyone but Heidi.

[Chelveston]

Originally Posted by McLurkypants

I was unclear. What I mean is that I think whether he's an attorney is a red herring.

Sorry that I read that wrong. I think it may be time for bed.

Happy Thanksgiving, Everyone!

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by Bunnymuffin

OHHH! Vanishing Point can be their next ad campaign! "Kimkins, redefining your Vanishing Point!"
Angelia

OR the name of the novel that is based on the Kimkins fraud.
It would be a good play on words with her wanting to "vanish" behind the internet, behind Lesya in the red dress and behind her 101 aliases.

My hope is that it doesn't apply to her vanishing before her court date.

[Chelveston]

Originally Posted by McLurkypants

And if Heidi's registered agent has given a bogus address & she ends up not receiving critical legal documents that have been served to the address listed for her agent, that won't hurt anyone but Heidi.

One more thing...

Heidi has used the "poor lil old me, I just didn't understand it" excuse in court before.

Knowing her MO, I wouldn't put it past her to have done it this time....

Who me? I just didn't understand those complicated LLC forms. I thought I did it right. Boo, hoo, I didn't get served. Oh, please, Mr. Judge, Your Honor, Sir, give me more time.


Said in her sweet Heidi voice, it has apparently worked before.


Now I'm really off to bed. Nighty- Night!

[LoriWants2Lose]

Originally Posted by Baby PHAT

Everyone is trying to convince me that Kimmer is wrong and that the way things are being handled are justified. Not one person has addressed the real matter that I have brought up and that is the fact that as a group you are throwing stones and judging a person.

The path to hell is paved with good intentions. Let the person without sin throw the first stone. And thou shalt not judge, lest ye be judged.

Okay, I know I shouldn't but I have to step in here. Since you want to bring the Bible into it, I think you are confused on the meaning of this verse. Yes, there are some forms of judgment we shouldn't make, such as judging someone for something we do as well (hypocritically) and that is what the verse you refer to means. However, the Bible, since you brought it up, is very clear that we are to rebuke wrongdoing and evil.

James 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

There were times when Jesus and the apostles were quite firm in their rebuke of evil, such as when Jesus overturned the tables of the moneychangers at the Temple.

So, are we to simply ignore evil actions because we might be "judging" Heidi Diaz? That has to be a personal decision each person makes, but I believe that the only way to overcome evil actions is to bring them into the light.

And finally, the reason we should hate the lies this woman has told?

There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers. Proverbs 6:16-19

[Katinsac]

sorry, N/A

[Katinsac]

N/A

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by Baby PHAT

That doesn't mean that you have to stop your lawsuit, but keep in mind that you must be solution based and not problem based.

There is a solution that has already been identified - that Heidi Diaz be shut down so she cannot prey on more unsuspecting people than she already has. I believe the people you have been speaking out against here have this goal in mind. The only thing that needs to happen for evil to flourish is for good people to stand aside and do nothing about it. Heidi Diaz and her mini-me Tippy Toes are evil.

Originally Posted by MJR

Ok
We got off track around page 6

Kimmers photoshopped front page picture - How did she do it? (Brandon?)
I wonder if Brandon (oops I mean the tech guy) is still sick?
Photoshopped green bracelet possibly covering up old watch
Dennis Sharp - Plumbing - same number & address as Heidi
LLC name found - what is it's meaning?
Kimkins articles (articals) popping up everywhere

Where is Tippy?

Ok guys what am I forgetting?

You are right! Let's get back to the business at hand. This situation has been like peeling an onion. Every layer we peel reveals more underneath, and there is no telling where it will end, but we need to stay the course here, no matter what criticism is thrown our way.

As for the sick tech guy, he seems to have been replaced by "Noelle".

Have a Happy Thanksgiving everyone!