Why the fascination with Kimmer? #10

[Baby PHAT]

Originally Posted by airse

Yes in a way. I agree that some people do have legit complaints but I think others don`t. Do you see what I am trying to say? I think some people will jump on the band wagon even though they weren`t effected. I feel that there are women who were truly hurt by this and some who were not. I feel that the lawsuit is warrented but it should only be for the ones who were really hurt by all of this. I personal do not want anything I would rather my money go to someone who was really effected. I think I am trying to say this the wrong way.

Arise you are saying the same thing I was saying. And I saw some other posts in older threads also saying this same thing.

They think we don't understand why they are upset. When we TOTALLY understand.

You all say that we are blaming the victim but when we state that you all gang up on people who don't feel you should be so mean spirited then we are all of a sudden playing the victim. When we say you have to take partial responsibility for not following your own good judgement then you compare us to molesters and rapists. When we say that the jokes are juvenile and adults shouldn't be acting with such behavior then you all say that Kimmer started it. When we say that you all are exhibiting mob behavior then you hit us with the Kimmer is a fraud.

Not one person has addressed the specific concerns that have been raised. You all feel justified in your actions because of the wrong doings of Kimmer.

We all have said Kimmer is wrong but you bypass that and continue to try and convince us that she is wrong. LOL

[celeste]

Happy Thanksgiving to all the hard working investigators!!!!
I am thankful for all you have done in your quest to bring this scam to light.

to Winslow and all the other old timers -

Celeste

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by celeste

Happy Thanksgiving to all the hard working investigators!!!!
I am thankful for all you have done in your quest to bring this scam to light.

to Winslow and all the other old timers -

Celeste

Happy THanksgiving, Celeste!

[Tanner]

Originally Posted by CJane

I'm guessing the protester won't be back any time soon (but I could be wrong). I think those who come into the thread like that figure they'll try to confuse the issue and stir the pot to get us to lash out irrationally. It didn't work, at least not to the extent hoped, and the responses certainly were rational.

I still do not understand anyone who can defend anything related to KK, blame the victims of the scam, and then try to call into question the motivations and intelligence of the victims and the supporters of the victims. *shakes head*

And, stating that using the factual term that Heidi is a "lying liar who lies" is immature? I laugh at that! That's a tactic my teenagers use at times. It just shows me who is truly the mature party.

I wonder if we were getting to close some other information when she came it and disrupted the thread? -- what were we talking about?

[Baby PHAT]

Originally Posted by tiggerr

Yes she is a scammer and you should be pissed. After all you did follow her 'diet'.



She is a fraud, plain and simple.
And all that has come out is beyond 'wool'. When are you going to see she is a fraud?

I did not follow the diet. And the one she had when she was on this board was much different than what I'm hearing it has evolved to.

I never said she wasn't a fraud.

[tiggerr]

Originally Posted by Awakened

The lawsuit is not about getting money back FOR people who got hurt. The lawsuit is about STOPPING her from being allowed to CONTINUE.
Please.. it's not a "bandwagon"... it doesn't matter if you had your health damaged or not by Kimkins.. it IS about her lies, fraud, and illegal business practices.

[Katinsac]

Originally Posted by CarolynF

Hey..the link is posted and you can watch the video..They are using Kimmer's front page..so there is NO mistaking which diet Christin was following..

News for Austin, Texas | kvue.com | KVUE News The video is on the right hand side..

Your kids are darling, Christin... You look great!!!!

Originally Posted by CJane

Another lunch is definitely in order!!

cool, every little bit helps. yes, christin, your kids are adorable!! Good job (again).


Mom is home from the hospital. Viral meningitis has made her really tired, and she's still not feeling great, but she should recover over the next couple of weeks. The MRI showed no new stroke.

I'll PM you my number.

so happy to hear about your Mom...what a nice Thanksgiving you are going to have!!

Originally Posted by wifezilla

TWWWOOOOOO DDOOOLLLAAAAARRRSSSSSSSSS

yep...don't forget the tax!!

[eggonmyface]

I would like to turn on the ignore status. How do you do that? Will this prevent me from seeing their post?

[Baby PHAT]

Originally Posted by CJane

I'm guessing the protester won't be back any time soon (but I could be wrong). I think those who come into the thread like that figure they'll try to confuse the issue and stir the pot to get us to lash out irrationally. It didn't work, at least not to the extent hoped, and the responses certainly were rational.

I still do not understand anyone who can defend anything related to KK, blame the victims of the scam, and then try to call into question the motivations and intelligence of the victims and the supporters of the victims. *shakes head*

And, stating that using the factual term that Heidi is a "lying liar who lies" is immature? I laugh at that! That's a tactic my teenagers use at times. It just shows me who is truly the mature party.

I am not trying to confuse any issue. I just think that people should conduct themselves in a more adult manner. I never defended Kimmer, show me one quote that I made defending her. And when I ask someone to take responsibilty for their own actions that is not blaming the victim. The people who followed the plan did it of their own free will. They were not forced to do anything.

Stopping people from following this program is important. I will even be happy to help if I can. But the name calling and pointing of fingers is very immature.

[tiggerr]

Originally Posted by Baby PHAT

I did not follow the diet. .

Really?

3 DAY KIMMER EXP (MEAT AND EGG) ***POST LOSSES HERE*** WK OF 6/29-7/6

DAY KIMMER EXP (MEAT AND EGG) ***POST LOSSES HERE*** WK OF 8/29-9/4

Seems to the search you were going to or were doing it.

Listen, my only beef with Heidi Diaz is that she lied and took advantage of desperate people.

[anipomoni]

Originally Posted by Baby PHAT

When we say you have to take partial responsibility for not following your own good judgement then you compare us to molesters and rapists.

How do you figure that people aren't taking responsibility for their part in it? Should every post end with..."and this is all my own fault," just to make you two happy?
People have already told you several times that they are accepting responsibility by helping others avoid this scam. If that's not a satisfactory answer for you then I guess it's too bad. But you DID get answers, don't pretend you didnt.

So what's the real problem? You're taking offense to a few jabs at Kimmer's expense. If you don't like the jokes...Ok, your opinions were heard. Our opinions were heard (hopefully). So what else do you want? For everyone to be like you? Or maybe just to follow your orders? Just a hunch but, I don't see that happening. Maybe you should move to Stepford.

[Baby PHAT]

Originally Posted by tiggerr

Really?

3 DAY KIMMER EXP (MEAT AND EGG) ***POST LOSSES HERE*** WK OF 6/29-7/6

DAY KIMMER EXP (MEAT AND EGG) ***POST LOSSES HERE*** WK OF 8/29-9/4

Seems to the search you were going to or were doing it.

Listen, my only beef with Heidi Diaz is that she lied and took advantage of desperate people.

I did the egg thing for a few days I think. And like I said her program was much different back then.

I agree with her lying I'm really shocked because I liked her. I thought she was on to something. But even back then people had concerns of gallstones and the low calorie count and I took heed.

[ketosis]

Originally Posted by CJane

I'm giving thanks for all of you this holiday. So, I must say as well

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

I'm preparing Fauxtatoes and Au Gratin Fauxtatoes right now for tomorrow, and then I'm gonna make some LC punkin' pie and LC cheesecake mousse. I've found these things to be sooo much better than sugar cookies with sprinkles, though I doubt one person out there thinks so.

I lurve pumpkin mousse!
Recipe? Description?

[ketosis]

Originally Posted by eggonmyface

I would like to turn on the ignore status. How do you do that? Will this prevent me from seeing their post?

In your control panel is a place where you add names for ignore. PM me if you want and I can walk you through it.

[This time]

Originally Posted by tiggerr

Really?

3 DAY KIMMER EXP (MEAT AND EGG) ***POST LOSSES HERE*** WK OF 6/29-7/6

DAY KIMMER EXP (MEAT AND EGG) ***POST LOSSES HERE*** WK OF 8/29-9/4

Seems to the search you were going to or were doing it.

Listen, my only beef with Heidi Diaz is that she lied and took advantage of desperate people.

Wow tiggerr...great catch

[Baby PHAT]

Originally Posted by anipomoni

How do you figure that people aren't taking responsibility for their part in it? Should every post end with..."and this is all my own fault," just to make you two happy?
People have already told you several times that they are accepting responsibility by helping others avoid this scam. If that's not a satisfactory answer for you then I guess it's too bad. But you DID get answers, don't pretend you didnt. I am addressing the posts about me blaming the victim because I made that statement. I just asked a question initially but people were saying that I reminded them of being molested. People keep saying that they believed what Kimmer was telling them and I feel that there had to be warning signs at some point.

So what's the real problem? You're taking offense to a few jabs at Kimmer's expense. If you don't like the jokes...Ok, your opinions were heard. Our opinions were heard (hopefully). So what else do you want? For everyone to be like you? Or maybe just to follow your orders? Just a hunch but, I don't see that happening. Maybe you should move to Stepford.

LOL okay I can understand that, I don't want everyone to be like me but let me have my say without jumping on me and twisting what I'm saying to mean something different.

[Katinsac]

Originally Posted by Baby PHAT

LOL okay I can understand that, I don't want everyone to be like me but let me have my say without jumping on me and twisting what I'm saying to mean something different.

I can only speak for myself and when I saw the warning signs...I stopped!! It didn't stop the additional symptoms after though.

[Katinsac]

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!

[CJane]

Originally Posted by ketosis

I lurve pumpkin mousse!
Recipe? Description?

I'll PM ya.

To Baby PHAT:

Hey, we really would love to have your help.

I cannot promise, however, that I will never call Heidi Diaz a lying liar who lies, because I will, because she is.

Please, understand, there are very few people like Heidi in the world...ones who live to lie, who cannot utter a word or make a move without it being a LIE. That's not immature my calling her that. It's an observation, and a proven fact.

[tiggerr]

Originally Posted by Baby PHAT

I did the egg thing for a few days I think. And like I said her program was much different back then.

Her program was the same.

But back then it was free.

[Baby PHAT]

Originally Posted by Awakened

The lawsuit is not about getting money back FOR people who got hurt. The lawsuit is about STOPPING her from being allowed to CONTINUE.
Please.. it's not a "bandwagon"... it doesn't matter if you had your health damaged or not by Kimkins.. it IS about her lies, fraud, and illegal business practices.
If we are going to get the site shut down... we need as many people as we can get to join the suit. (only requirement is did you pay to join?)
To be honest... I want to reiterate this again... it doesn't matter if you were personally affected by it or not... what matters is PREVENTING her from getting the chance to hurt someone else.
By not joining... you are- in essense, helping her stay in business, and saying it's okay with you if someone gets scammed or hurt by her.

Please.. if you are a paid member of Kimkins and you no longer support Heidi Diaz or believe her lies... then JOIN THE LAWSUIT REGARDLESS OF ANY OTHER REASONING!!!

Kimkinslawsuit’s Weblog

Arise and I have both said to let the law handle her. We have not stated to stop the lawsuit.

[Katinsac]

sorry, chicken and eggs is KK to me!!

[Awakened]

BabyPhat.. I think you are referring to me when saying that I said your question reminded me of being molested... I want to clear up that for a minute.
I am not saying that you are like my molester.. what I was saying is that your question was like my principal's statement to me. It was a "blame the victim", "make the victim take responsibility" mentality. I in NO WAY think that you are like a molestor.. goodness no.. Kimmer is the one who is behaving LIKE a molestor.
I'm sure my principal thought he was truly protecting me from any additional dangers by telling me not to wear tight sweaters, I'm sure he never INTENDED to make me feel like trash. However... sometimes people's questions and or statements that are directed at victims of a crime are much deeper than you realize.

All it does is make "the victims" feel guilty over something we really shouldn't feel guilt over.

Hopefully, you have never had to feel the way I have felt. Hopefully you have never been in a situation where someone hurt you, broke your trust, violated you, abused you or turned it back around and told you it was your own fault to begin with. I guess if you've never experienced something like that then you wouldn't be able to recognize how your casual innocent questions might cause some raw emotions to be stirred up.

I am not sure what kind of "responsibility" you want us to take. What exactly do you want us to do?

I'm not trying to twist your words or "jump on you" for asking questions.. I'm simply responding from my heart in reaction to your post. If you understand what I'm saying and just completely disagree, then oh well... but perhaps looking at it from my point of view might encourage you to be a little more empathetic and a little less judgemental.

[tiggerr]

From Kimkins Exhausted

And the people who come into the anti-Kimkins threads and throw these words at us are so stupid and so in love with self-drama that they dont’ give a damn that they’re trivializing these words, self-appointed martyrs posturing and whining.

Some of these people — and BabyPhat you know who you are — share with us, with our own families, and with the families of so many people affected by the Kimkins scam, some of these people ought by right to understand and honor the power of these words.

I wonder too.