Why the fascination with Kimmer? #10

[ShellyW]

Even if people were banned from here they havent paid for a lifetime membership... But as smp stated only one I know of is TT .

[eggonmyface]

What happen to Brandon's meeting with John. Did it happen?

[CJane]

Originally Posted by eggonmyface

What happen to Brandon's meeting with John. Did it happen?

It is my understanding that it didn't, but I don't know the why's and wherefore's.

[amadeus4313]

Originally Posted by fluffybear2

I hope everyone's efforts are eventually rewarded and Heidi is put out of business. I am sorry I wasn't more supportive in the past.

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Hi Cheryl . It is frustrating when people come into the thread with unclear intentions and then leave, but the problem is that BP didn't want to debate in the true sense. It seemed to me that she didn't debate and then leave. She just made statements then left which is more annoying.
I am never one to "skirt" a debate or wear a "skirt" to a debate.
But BP would not debate the points and was only trying to distract and divert from the valid points.
I do think the tactic called Distraction by broadening the issue or refocusing the attention is a possibility here.
So now we are not focusing on the wrong Kimmer does but the possible wrong of someone connected to the ones trying to "out" Kimmer. DISTRACT and REDIRECT. That was the purpose whether she is a sock puppet, kimmer or the same member who once believed in Kimmer the outcome is the same.

The Kimkins camp did the same thing with the report of the alleged threatening phone calls to SingingLass.
We were called terrorist then and now we are called a lynch mob.
I just decided to not respond to BabyPHAT anymore until she could respond to my points.

"DISTRACT and REDIRECT" gosh you are right on target! I think what really helps is put people like that on "ignore" ..... I've found that it really helps me. You know what I mean - knee jerk reactions? All it does is fuel their fire.

[ixtapacheryl]

Quote:
Originally Posted by fluffybear2 View Post
I hope everyone's efforts are eventually rewarded and Heidi is put out of business. I am sorry I wasn't more supportive in the past."

I was the same as you in the beginning - what a fool I was trying to defend her! I'm glad to be here among all these GREAT friends.

[fluffybear2]

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

Quote:
Originally Posted by fluffybear2 View Post
I hope everyone's efforts are eventually rewarded and Heidi is put out of business. I am sorry I wasn't more supportive in the past."

I was the same as you in the beginning - what a fool I was trying to defend her! I'm glad to be here among all these GREAT friends.

Me too and very GRATEFUL, because I really need the support

[BamaGal]

Everyone---have been entertaining my son this week so haven't been able to pop in only to attempt to keep up with things.

I had to put my 2cents in about the distraction techniques as of late. I do believe their plan has backfired. Instead of distracting and putting some off. It has given many of us the fortitude to push even harder. I, for one, feel a renewed sense of purpose. I will be back after Thanksgiving. And I'm coming back FULL throttle. So Heidi and all her sock puppets can just get ready. I'm no where near done yet........

I lost no money to this scam. I did not join her site. I did not follow her eating plan. So did not suffer any health consequences. My stake in this is to right a wrong. Educate the masses on the controversy. I refuse to idly sit back and watch this train wreck unfold. I will continue to add my voice, loud and strong.....

[Locarb4me]

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

"DISTRACT and REDIRECT" gosh you are right on target! I think what really helps is put people like that on "ignore" ..... I've found that it really helps me. You know what I mean - knee jerk reactions? All it does is fuel their fire.

I agree with you, Cheryl.

[AllisonB]

KK still owes me 34-cents. Since she hasn't refunded me in full, do you think I can still join the lawsuit? It would be nice for her pettiness to back fire on her like that.

[CarolynF]

Allison..I'm sure Jeanessa will have that information.. You aren't paid in full, are you??

Yes, it's been a while since we had a person "who thinks differently" than we do about Kimmer, but everyone handled it well...Proud of you all!!

[Sheridan]

Originally Posted by BamaGal

(snipped):

I lost no money to this scam. I did not join her site. I did not follow her eating plan. So did not suffer any health consequences. My stake in this is to right a wrong. Educate the masses on the controversy. I refuse to idly sit back and watch this train wreck unfold. I will continue to add my voice, loud and strong.....

I could have written that myself!

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by fluffybear2

Me too and very GRATEFUL, because I really need the support

Since this entire saga started I've been distracted.... I like someone else to blame instead of myself. I've gained a few pounds and want to get them off as well and I know I can.

So can you ...... just read all the success stories and look at the before/after pics. These people are no different than you and me. They just found the right switch in their brain and turned it on.

Use the upcoming holidays as a challenge. You can get through them without going off your plan.

I have a few xmas parties coming up and I love to play the game of letting people believe I'm eating all the gooey foods when in fact I'm fooling everyone. Make it a game and you are the winner!

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by AllisonB

KK still owes me 34-cents. Since she hasn't refunded me in full, do you think I can still join the lawsuit? It would be nice for her pettiness to back fire on her like that.

I would say if she owes you ANYTHING .... you have an opportunity to join the class action suit. Go for it! You have nothing to lose.

[Violet Skye]

Originally Posted by fluffybear2

Me too and very GRATEFUL, because I really need the support

You've got all the support you'll ever need here, fluffy! We're all fighting the same battle, and it really helps to have good friends along the way.

[missis36]

I think the argument that we bash the new people is insane. There are plenty of people on this thread who have welcomed new members into our challenges, directed them to the main lobby, and specific threads so that they can lose weight in a healthy manner. So for a person who was so obviously trying to be mean to come in and cause drama it's off setting at best. For instance coming in here saying that Christen, Deni or Becky is culpable for their part in this scam is bs. And I will defend them to my death regardless of if I know them or not. You are not culpable unless you had full knowledge of a scam or wrong doing prior to your affiliation (see Tippy). So for anyone to come in and bash those wonderful women, I'm going to continue to point them in the right direction, sweet or not so sweet. Just my honest opinion.

[winslow]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Yes, she was and this picture and information was posted on kimkins meet the team page. This person was found in our search of fraudulent pictures and she was suppose to be an affiliate manager- -
"Vanessa
Affiliate Manager


Vanessa joins Kimkins from an international sales organization where she was most recently managing director for European health services. She brings to Kimkins an impressive depth of direct sales experience and is fluent in Portguese, French and Italian.

Vanessa lives with her husband and 2 daughters in southern California."

The biggest issue is that it was all lies. Vanessa is actually Elena and here is the link- Elena's Link

Another Vanessa was an alleged affiliate. This Vanessa was Vanessa Romero, which is actually the name of Heidi's niece.
Heidi lies like most of us breathe; with little effort.

OMG!!! I'm still reading all of this Kimmer scandal. Unbelievable! I can't even tell you how sickened I am by this. All I can say is WOW and I have at least 10 pages still to weed through. I think the bogus pictures of the Russian brides are so crazy, unbelievable. YIKES!

[Baby PHAT]

This will be my final post in this thread just to address everyone:

You all cherry picked my posts like crazy.

1) I never said I supported Kimmer.
2) I was addressing the juvenile acts of adults. Not the exposing of Kimmer.
3) I think that education is VERY important, and people who are willing to give of themselves and advise others is wonderful. So the premise of what is being done here is terrific.
4) If I had control over things I would ask people to refrain from

Insulted Others - No personal attacks, harrassment, or mean-spirited posts are permitted

Which is what I was told about a couple of my posts when addressing the acts of people in this forum.

If calling someone juvenile is mean spirited then I guess I'm mean. But guess what there are a bunch of people on this forum who agree with me but don't want to say anything because of the way people get attacked.

Christin I appreciate the adult way you addressed my concerns. Thank you.

[JustKim]

I got to speak with Christin on the phone tonight. she is a wonderful person!

[HoneyBee2]

Biggest Loser is on!

[stardust1]

"I'm hypothyroid. Will Kimkins work for me?

You bet! Kimmer created the diet and is severly hypothyroid. In fact, she says if she stops taking her thyroid medication, her TSH level shoots to 128! She lost 198 lbs in 11 months."

"Q: Did you lose 198 pounds in 11 months?

A: No. But I did lose 100 pounds in 6 months. However, since Kimkins appeared on the Woman's World cover, I've been glued to my computer. I'm no different than any of you and I'm well familiar with stress eating or grabbing what's handy instead of what's Kimkins friendly."

What's up with that? I hate when people aren't consistent with their lies. She is still contradicting herself on her own website. Kimmer, keep track of your own lies please!!!!!!

I haven't visited in a while, and I am 13589696 posts behind, so I truly apologize if this has been pointed out already

[WOOFY]

What? First it was 198 lbs in 11 months, now is 100 lbs in 6 months. Sheesh, what's next?

[stardust1]

Originally Posted by WOOFY

What? First it was 198 lbs in 11 months, now is 100 lbs in 6 months. Sheesh, what's next?

Next? What's next? Ermmmmmmmmm, what about the most recent one? She has lost 28lbs in the past 4 weeks, which she claims.

Here is another brilliant KK statement which can still be found there:

"How fast will I lose?

Suffice to say you will lose faster with Kimkins than with any other plan.

How quickly depends on age, sex, current weight and activity level, but many members drop 5% or more of their total body weight in the first 10 days! Please look over our Member Comments for first hand reports of fantastic weight loss!"

I guess Member Comments means Olga and Natasha from Belarus

[susique333]

I was hoping is wasnt going to be another Captain Morgan night...good lord.

On another note....got my 22# HEN turkey thawed...can you believe theyre breedin the momma hens that big now? Teens are off school tomorrow so will tidy up this big ole house in preparation for a crowd on TurkeyDay. Travel safe to all who drive. Omaha is supposed to get light snow tomorrow. "Mood snow!"

JustKim, Christin is a soft spoken doll! She, Deni and Becky (plus others) are doing an excellent job with this whole expose` !

[CarolynF]

JustKim: I'm glad that you got to speak to Christin. How great for you gals. I'm sure you had alot to share about your ex-boss..!!

The cruise is still a "go", I guess. It will be mostly ex-KKites..I'm sure they will have a great time..don't you think?

[missis36]

Carolyn, a bunch of us have discussed going as well, wanna join? It could be fun. I mean heck a week at sea with Heidi, might be like Christmas for me. Wonder how many times I could make her cry? Just a thought. But honestly if anyone thinks she's going on the cruise, I have some swamp land for sale.