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Old 12-01-2007, 02:57 PM   #3001
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Hey, wait a minute. Do they really need a maintenance plan? You have to get to goal and live to need a maintenance plan.

That would almost be funny, if it wasn't so true. It's just plain sad.
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:01 PM   #3002
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Originally Posted by JoanieOrchard: "Hey, wait a minute. Do they really need a maintenance plan? You have to get to goal and live to need a maintenance plan."

And not necessarily in that order... the diet being what it is!
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BTW, perpetrating a scam is a crime. You can bet your bottom dollar that a criminal lawsuit will follow the civil lawsuit. For you and SL, there is the little matter of AIDING AND ABETTING in a criminal activity. I suggest that the support you should really be looking for right now is that of a good attorney!

Now, I'll go back to lurking!
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This is MY opinion.. I think Kimmer wanted TT out of the Kimpire and won't let her back in.

Kimmer doesn't want to share the stage with anyone, especially now that SHE is losing weight. She doesn't need TT anymore, so TT is like a "woman without a country"..so to speak.

I think if they deleted TT's post, then they probably deleted TT, too.
Yes she is. And by her own behavior, her own actions (and inaction) she is where she is now, ALL as a direct result of her own actions, and ONLY her own actions.

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As far as I am concerned, the only thing that Tippy can do to redeem herself is to turn "states witness" in return for a reduced sentence.

She is a CRIMINAL and willingly participated in a CRIMINAL ACTIVITY and she belongs in jail!!!!! She did not go to KK with the altruistic intent that she now claims. She went there strictly for the power and self-aggrandizement and stayed for the money.

Re-read her so-called explanation at Amy's. The only reason she left KK is because Kimmer lied to her about the MONEY!! All of the other lies she explains away, but when she found out that Hidey lied about why her salary was being cut, well now, that was just the final straw!

Tippy is a victimizer who was caught and is now trying to cast herself in the role of victim. She is nothing more than a turkey buzzard that fed herself by picking the bones of a dying enterprise and now thinks that she can just waltz back in, say "my bad" and be welcomed back into the fold with open arms!

If allowed to remain, she will destroy Amy's forum. She hurt too many people and it will not be forgotten as long as I have breath in my body and a keyboard!
On one hand I want to forgive her as almost no one is beyond redemption at least humanly speaking...( well everyone has their line in the sand .. )
On the other hand her actions speak louder then " words " .
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Sheesh! I finally got caught up reading here at 5 a.m. today! Now, I'm a gazillion pages behind again! But, I'd like to say this:

#1) I don't believe for a second that TT has left KK. I think she's lying about the whole thing.

#2) To TT: the ONLY way you will EVER be forgiven and regain acceptance in the lc community is when you ACT as Christin, Deni, and the other ex-KK admins have done. People will only believe your ACTIONS. Your words are WORTHLESS. Those who said you must join the lawsuit and testify against Heidi and the whole KK scam are 100% right.

BTW, perpetrating a scam is a crime. You can bet your bottom dollar that a criminal lawsuit will follow the civil lawsuit. For you and SL, there is the little matter of AIDING AND ABETTING in a criminal activity. I suggest that the support you should really be looking for right now is that of a good attorney!

Now, I'll go back to lurking!

Don't you dare lurk, we are with you all the way !!!
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Oh my.... that will do !!
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It really doesn't take much to get me jumpstarted. Here's a little quote I came across in kimmer's back on track challenge:

My weight loss last week was less than I expected, so I went through the building blocks of how we burn fat. What was blocking my fat burning? Ah ha! OK, fixed it ... the scale is beginning to budge. The change? I stopped a new medication. Which one? That's a secret for now.


She's off her medication! Everybody RUN RUN RUN!!!!!!
What the heck kind of crap is that?

IF she is not playing her usual headgames there is a possibility that IF she is newly diabetic, they tried her on one of the blood sugar lowering medications that inhibits weightloss. Just a guess.

What is it with her?

Why not come right out and say "hey one of my meds is causing me not to lose weight so I asked my doctor if he/she could find another one to take instead". But no...she has to play games...again.

My take on it is, Captain Morgan and the Sugar Cookie Monster ganged up on her this week and beat her into submission!!!!
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:35 PM   #3011
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At the risk of sounding like an uncaring scoundrel, I am going to ask where is all this drama being referenced and who is causing it on your board? Is it all the fault of ours here at LCF or the "ducks", because that is the impression I get reading your post.

I have been 100% upfront with you and on your board in explaining my initial reason for posting on the JeannieLynn introduction thread. I posted TT's comments here on LCF and said they were TT's and she was posting on another forum as someone else.
I did this because prior to me posting that information *nowhere* , including your board, had it been written that JeannieLynn was Tippy Toes. So here was Tippy posting as someone else and calling herself a *Kimkins Refugee*.
I felt it only right to basically call her out and at the same time let your board members and, even you- I thought, be made aware that she was there.

I know you keep saying Tippy had just joined the night before, I posted this, but that is incorrect. She actually was posting on your board on 11-27 at 8am, so as you can see that isn't the case. I only point this out because she had time to do the right thing over there and announce who she was- it wasn't all last minute with her joining and me posting the information here.
In fact I suspected she was there a full 24 hours earlier, then when I actually posted about it here on LCF, but waited to verify and to see what she would do. Go figure- not just us going in for a kill. I say this because that has been said by others, that we are a pack looking for blood and just say anything without proof.

When I did comment on this member being TT, I did not disparage TT in any way. My first post - "Hi Tippy toes does Kimmer know you are here or anyone else for that matter?" My user name was not chosen as a way to stir the pot. I used the name HoneyBee. I was not trying to fool anyone as far as where I was coming from (LCF and Kimkins I used that name) or who I was either.

In fact I did not see anyone post with names that would be pot stirring as you described. Are these people who are just reading? If so they could just be reading here too and not even members of LCF, because you don't even have to join here to read. Just something to consider. It just bothers me that all the recent new members are viewed as being there for the wrong reasons and viewed as a negative automatically, as indicated in your post. Do you really want that to be the case?

TO be honest since the outing of TT the worse comment I have read on your board, or the pesron who appeared to be stirring the pot, was not by a "new member", but done by a long standing member there.
My point is this entire situation is coming off again as if we all are haters and went over to cause trouble at a "safe" site. That we are all just bad bad. That brings back eerie memories......doesn't it?

I truly feel your intentions are pure in what you were trying to do by allowing Tippy to be a member of your forum, but I also think TT's are still questionable It doesn't mean I am a hater, but just a person who may have a different opinion from others.
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:36 PM   #3012
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No comments on Tippy's big reveal at Amy's?

Medusa: TIPPYTOES SPILLS THE BEANS! SORT OF...



ETA: WHERE IS EVERYBODY?????
IMHO, Jeannie Baitinger continues to show her true colors. It's all about her, protecting herself, and riding the gravy train til it crashes. That's what I see in TT's post. I can even understand some of what she did in the beginning (I've always given her private props for trying to change Kimkins and help people. I could see that was what she was trying to do).

But she wasn't just there because of altruism. She had her own agenda going. She stayed way too long and only left when the $$ dried up. Money talks, anything else walks.

Having said all that, I will grudgingly thank her for telling us some of the story. Doesn't undo all the ugliness she has dished out, but I appreciate it nonetheless. I always enjoys me some glimpses into the inner workings of the Kimpire

I sympathize with Amy. In real life, I lead an international forum myself, all women. It's a tough job and I really understand where she's coming from. I didn't join her forum for the very reason she cites. (I am glad someone did, because naturally I am very curious what TT was going to say once she was outed ).
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Hey gang! Glad to see you have been busy while my laptop was at the shop. I'll have a lot of catching up to do, but I've had a lot of insomnia lately, so I'll be back in the wee small hours... Got to run to the post office.
I will see you then
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:39 PM   #3014
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You know what I don't get? How can you say the plan works, it's a good plan, you believe in the plan 100% but then say that you're going to right all the wrongs, make people eat more food, up their calories, yadda yadda ... why is that necessary if the plan is sound, works, and you believe in it 100%?
And why, after discovering the fraud of the Russian bride pics, Heidi not having lost the weight, the existence of a lawsuit, TV broadcasts of the dangers, the fraud, the ill effects members were experiencing, untold numbers of first hand accounts by ex-members, do you still stay?. THEN, after all those lies you're aware of it's when Heidi tells you that she has to cut your pay because she can't make her car payments and you discover that she bought 2 cars and a house with cash that you decide to quit. What does that tell you? It wasn't until Heidi lied about finances that affected TT's income that TT said enough. Not very noble if you ask me. But, as always, that's jmo.
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At the risk of sounding like an uncaring scoundrel, I am going to ask where is all this drama being referenced and who is causing it on your board? Is it all the fault of ours here at LCF or the "ducks", because that is the impression I get reading your post.

I have been 100% upfront with you and on your board in explaining my initial reason for posting on the JeannieLynn introduction thread. I posted TT's comments here on LCF and said they were TT's and she was posting on another forum as someone else.
I did this because prior to me posting that information *nowhere* , including your board, had it been written that JeannieLynn was Tippy Toes. So here was Tippy posting as someone else and calling herself a *Kimkins Refugee*.
I felt it only right to basically call her out and at the same time let your board members and, even you- I thought, be made aware that she was there.

I know you keep saying Tippy had just joined the night before, I posted this, but that is incorrect. She actually was posting on your board on 11-27 at 8am, so as you can see that isn't the case. I only point this out because she had time to do the right thing over there and announce who she was- it wasn't all last minute with her joining and me posting the information here.
In fact I suspected she was there a full 24 hours earlier, then when I actually posted about it here on LCF, but waited to verify and to see what she would do. Go figure- not just us going in for a kill. I say this because that has been said by others, that we are a pack looking for blood and just say anything without proof.

When I did comment on this member being TT, I did not disparage TT in any way. My first post - "Hi Tippy toes does Kimmer know you are here or anyone else for that matter?" My user name was not chosen as a way to stir the pot. I used the name HoneyBee. I was not trying to fool anyone as far as where I was coming from (LCF and Kimkins I used that name) or who I was either.

In fact I did not see anyone post with names that would be pot stirring as you described. Are these people who are just reading? If so they could just be reading here too and not even members of LCF, because you don't even have to join here to read. Just something to consider. It just bothers me that all the recent new members are viewed as being there for the wrong reasons and viewed as a negative automatically, as indicated in your post. Do you really want that to be the case?

TO be honest since the outing of TT the worse comment I have read on your board, or the pesron who appeared to be stirring the pot, was not by a "new member", but done by a long standing member there.
My point is this entire situation is coming off again as if we all are haters and went over to cause trouble at a "safe" site. That we are all just bad bad. That brings back eerie memories......doesn't it?

I truly feel your intentions are pure in what you were trying to do by allowing Tippy to be a member of your forum, but I also think TT's are still questionable It doesn't mean I am a hater, but just a person who may have a different opinion from others.


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Old 12-01-2007, 03:41 PM   #3016
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Well here I am. It seems that I have been banned. I bet none of you are surprised. I guess what sucks most for me is I can not e-mail any of my special friends on there and say that I have been banned.
I guess I am just plain naive but I have no idea why I am banned.
And please do not jump on me when I say this..but I think Kimmer would be happy. I am so sad and so upset by this. I have such a following on that group and I guess I need my small group of friends there.
If anyone here has a kimmer log in and would be willing to let someone know over there.
Shoot I feel lost. I guess she won huh?
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If I knew how to contact you off this forum, I would, but I'm not sure how to go about it without publishing an email address. All I can say is hurry up and get your posts so you can receive PMs! Are you at Jimmy's or any other LC forum?
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[ img ]http://bestsmileys.com/anxious/4.gif[ /img ]

Remove the spaces before and after "img" and "/img".
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As far as I am concerned, the only thing that Tippy can do to redeem herself is to turn "states witness" in return for a reduced sentence.

She is a CRIMINAL and willingly participated in a CRIMINAL ACTIVITY and she belongs in jail!!!!! She did not go to KK with the altruistic intent that she now claims. She went there strictly for the power and self-aggrandizement and stayed for the money.

Re-read her so-called explanation at Amy's. The only reason she left KK is because Kimmer lied to her about the MONEY!! All of the other lies she explains away, but when she found out that Hidey lied about why her salary was being cut, well now, that was just the final straw!

Tippy is a victimizer who was caught and is now trying to cast herself in the role of victim. She is nothing more than a turkey buzzard that fed herself by picking the bones of a dying enterprise and now thinks that she can just waltz back in, say "my bad" and be welcomed back into the fold with open arms!

If allowed to remain, she will destroy Amy's forum. She hurt too many people and it will not be forgotten as long as I have breath in my body and a keyboard!
Boy GinaC, you said it much better than I did. Couldn't agree more.
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Remove the spaces before and after "img" and "/img".

You are so sweet, thank you !
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Tippy is no longer on our forum. I was willing to give her a chance but other people didn't want her there. In the end, it was too much drama so she's gone.

All posts by her have been deleted and we have deleted some of the threads that got a little hot so that we can start over fresh. I was saddened both by what old members and new members posted so I don't want anyone to think I'm singling anyone out. I honestly almost shut down my forum because I just don't need this stress in my life.

Everyone is welcome over there. I only had issues because some people joined, posted something in the Tippy thread and left. I also had people joining with all kinds of crazy names which to me said they just wanted to start stuff. I know people wanted to address Tippy because she was finally speaking outside of KK, but it just sucked that it happened on my board. I posted here because lots of people read the stuff here and I knew my plea for peace would be seen. I had posted over on my forum as well, but I wanted as many people to see it as possible because I was very upset and needed an end to this. I'm just one person over there, not a big gigantic board with teams of admins so it was all a bit overwhelming.

At this point, let's all just let this drop. She's not over there anymore. I won't post over here either so that this can all just end. Thanks.
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What the heck kind of crap is that?

IF she is not playing her usual headgames there is a possibility that IF she is newly diabetic, they tried her on one of the blood sugar lowering medications that inhibits weightloss. Just a guess.

What is it with her?

Why not come right out and say "hey one of my meds is causing me not to lose weight so I asked my doctor if he/she could find another one to take instead". But no...she has to play games...again.

My take on it is, Captain Morgan and the Sugar Cookie Monster ganged up on her this week and beat her into submission!!!!

My take is that she hasn't lost as fast as she knows her followers are expecting (maybe not sticking to her diet... maybe trashed metabolism....?). Anyway, she has to have an "explanation" for not losing this last week or so, and also buy some "calendar time" to get a pound or two lost. After all, all eyes are on her now, and as we all know.... "There's no faster diet. None."
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Tippy is no longer on our forum. I was willing to give her a chance but other people didn't want her there. In the end, it was too much drama so she's gone.

All posts by her have been deleted and we have deleted some of the threads that got a little hot so that we can start over fresh. I was saddened both by what old members and new members posted so I don't want anyone to think I'm singling anyone out. I honestly almost shut down my forum because I just don't need this stress in my life.

Everyone is welcome over there. I only had issues because some people joined, posted something in the Tippy thread and left. I also had people joining with all kinds of crazy names which to me said they just wanted to start stuff. I know people wanted to address Tippy because she was finally speaking outside of KK, but it just sucked that it happened on my board. I posted here because lots of people read the stuff here and I knew my plea for peace would be seen. I had posted over on my forum as well, but I wanted as many people to see it as possible because I was very upset and needed an end to this. I'm just one person over there, not a big gigantic board with teams of admins so it was all a bit overwhelming.

At this point, let's all just let this drop. She's not over there anymore. I won't post over here either so that this can all just end. Thanks.

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Sheesh! I finally got caught up reading here at 5 a.m. today! Now, I'm a gazillion pages behind again! But, I'd like to say this:

#1) I don't believe for a second that TT has left KK. I think she's lying about the whole thing.

#2) To TT: the ONLY way you will EVER be forgiven and regain acceptance in the lc community is when you ACT as Christin, Deni, and the other ex-KK admins have done. People will only believe your ACTIONS. Your words are WORTHLESS. Those who said you must join the lawsuit and testify against Heidi and the whole KK scam are 100% right.

BTW, perpetrating a scam is a crime. You can bet your bottom dollar that a criminal lawsuit will follow the civil lawsuit.