The Morning Show Discussion Thread

[CarolynF]

This WAS great!! and we did get to see Tippy's spelling of NUTRITIONALIST on air..She said it several times, too!!

Hopefully, the bariatic doctor will think twice about getting aboard the KK's train..

TT was really nodding and agreeing with the nutritionist..I wonder what Kimmer thinks of that. TT was telling Kimmer that "SHE" came in to save the plan..because Kimmer was so incompetent!!

Deni and Christin did great, great, great!!!!

[Bandy1]

What happened to Dr. Mark? I thought he was on the website. Now she said there isn't one, but one is thinking about it. Man, it's hard to keep up.

[CarolynF]

Dr. Mark was an acupuncturist..Who knows why he was even on the website..

We need to go to the Mike and Juliet website and thank them for doing this program.

[Wolfpax24]

Originally Posted by golite

I do wish ketosis had been explained better and the fact that kk puts you in to
"deep" ketosis.

That Dr implied that any state of ketosis is bad for any length of time, which we know isn't true.

more about ketosis:

Ketosis

Another false fear about low-carbohydrate diets is ketosis. You can
prevent ketosis by eating as little as 100 grams of carbohydrate each day.
However, even if you do go into ketosis, there’s no harm from it, only benefit. I know that most health practitioners will tell you that ketones are harmful, but that’s true only if you are diabetic.
We must distinguish

pathological ketosis from physiological ketosis.
In the former, high levels of ketones are dangerous. In the latter, occurring as it does with a very low-carbohydrate intake or fasting and starvation, the regulatory mechanisms in normal, healthy people control the rise of ketones. Ketones are, after all, important to the body’s fuel economy. The release of free fatty acids from the body’s fat cells into the blood increases in starvation or in low-carbohydrate diets. The body, however, doesn’t allow these free fatty acids to rise to dangerously high levels, preventing this by the liver’s conversion of them to ketones. As D.H. Williamson and R. Hems point out in their 1970 article onketones, published
in Essays in Cell Metabolism, page 257, “It is perhaps
because this led to the natural conclusion that they were useless products of metabolism, a view which is still held by a number of biochemists and
clinicians.” This view is still held by most physicians and scientists in the year 2002. Therefore, as long as you are healthy and don’t suffer from diabetes, ketosis is nothing to fret about. If you have a concern, have your physician review the large number of research papers. They’ll confirm everything I’ve said. Initially, when beginning a low-carbohydrate diet, there is some ketone loss in the urine. This accounts for 50-100 calories a day. After several weeks of adaptation to the low-carbohydrate diet, ketones become a primary fuel for the brain, central nervous system, organs, and muscles. This increased burning of ketones decreases their amount in the urine. In fact, after a month or two on an extremely low-carbohydrate diet, it’s virtually impossible to detect ketones in the urine. They’ve all been burned in the cells as a source of fuel. The critics of the low-carbohydrate diet are wrong when they claim that ketones are unhealthy and Atkins is wrong when he claims that ketones are a significant source of energy “wasting” that confers a metabolic advantage to the low-carbohydrate diet.

[robsrib]

Christin and Deni did a fantatic job. I thought that Dr. Siegler's parting words "no self-respecting Dr. will associate themeselves with this plan" was one of the best things said. Hopefully TT's Bariatric Dr. who is planning on coming on board will take his advice to heart.

I was very pleased with how much time the show devoted to the subject. Anyone who watched it and still joins or follows the plan is beyond desperate.

Calling TT on the carpet for the mistaken forwarded email was classic! She should be horribly embarrassed.

[Sheridan]

Originally Posted by CarolynF

Deni and Christin from NYC!!! They want to thank everyone for their support!!!

I hope they both know how very PROUD of them we all are!

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

TT is saying that Christin you were under doctor's supervision
Christin is saying No I was not.
TT is saying that she, TT, was under doctor's supervision.

TT is saying that Christin and Deni did a poor job as moderator because they didn't tell others of their issues..

TT says she did take on the job at a bad time

Anyone who DID say something about having issues was BANNED, fer cryin' out loud! What an ignorant dork. I'm glad TT had a new one ripped over that!

Originally Posted by Chelveston

Jeanie "I made a pledge to the low carb community to make kimkins healthy"


Jeanie "My life has been threatened"

Yes, Tipsy, your life has been threatened . . . by following the KIMKINS diet! Funny how you didn't come clean about your attempted BLACKMAIL scheme, huh?

Originally Posted by CarolynF

LOLOL...TT is playing the Victim here..It's Victim's Day..Hopefully she will look like an idiot!!

Even if she "cleans up well", an idiot is still an idiot.

Originally Posted by shelby7851

the dietician just went off on her really...these experts are killing kimkins

Originally Posted by shelby7851

the email said something like "we are really scared about the dietician coming on, but we are just going to push this as TEMPORARY weight loss"

soemthing like that..she sent it to someone else and ACCIDENTALLY sent it to the producer (TT)

I am LMAO! "Temporary"?? Then how in the heck did Heidi "keep it off" all those many years?? LIARS, one and ALL.

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

TT was trying to send an email to a colleague and sent it to the producer.
It says how she was afraid to talk about the diet

Glassman- telling TT that Christin was taken advantage

Dr. Seigel- mentions egg white challenge on diet

Glassman- saying no calcium , minimum calories

Dr. S- NO SELF RESPECTING DOCTOR will be associated with this plan

Paging "Dr. Mark". PIck up the red phone, STAT.

Originally Posted by centralpa

One of my favorites: TT said "no we don't have a nutrionalist ..."

The nutritionist sitting beside TT, said, "BTW, it's NUTRITIONIST!!!!"

My sides are aching!

Originally Posted by centralpa

Another favorite: the nutritionist said several times:

"The kimkins diet and website are completely unethical."

Originally Posted by centralpa

Just a note about the audience ... there had to be many LCFs and supporters in the audience ... because there were obvious GASPs at the appropriate times.

No one in the audience seemed to be supporting the Kimmer ...

I love it when a plan comes together!! Many, many thanks to the tireless efforts of all here who have worked so hard to bring this to the forefront! Y'all ROCK!

[Chrissykin]

Originally Posted by Dottie

At the risk of being flamed lol -I thought Tippy looked very nice, too. The hair cut was flattering, so was the makeup.

I thought so too.

[Wolfpax24]

I think this thread should get the award today for fastest moving thread

[robsrib]

The front page at KK has been updated. Seems Heidi is back on the program and keeping a journal for all to see. OOPS SORRY NOT FOR ALL TO SEE YOU HAVE TO BE A MEMBER TO ACCESS HER JOURNAL.

[BellaHMB]

So I have another ?

I thought Heidi sold the website? And now she is running it again??

Bella

[cheri]

This isn't the womans world magazine site is it? And if so.. shouldn't they take down this advertisement?

Details Of Kimkins Diet

[Wolfpax24]

Originally Posted by robsrib

The front page at KK has been updated. Seems Heidi is back on the program and keeping a journal for all to see.

and only registered members can see the info besides the homepage- so ... no way I am going to join just to read all of that...

[Sweeteater]

Originally Posted by Khewes

I'm trying to watch the segment directly from the website, and all I'm getting is the Jennifer Garner clip. Is it too early for it to be posted?

me, too

[becksterinindy]

Originally Posted by cheri

This isn't the womans world magazine site is it? And if so.. shouldn't they take down this advertisement?

Details Of Kimkins Diet

[jayed]

Originally Posted by BellaHMB

So I have another ?

I thought Heidi sold the website? And now she is running it again??

Bella

She never said she sold the website. She said there was new ownership. That can be interpreted in a number of ways that do not include Heidi selling. For example, she could have had a partner and bought that person out, she could have changed partners or she could have formed a corporation and had that entity "buy" kimkins. I think she just wanted people to assume she sold it.

[Wolfpax24]

I just filed a complaint about the kimkins diet being shown in the WW magazine, and asked that their article on it be taken off. I hope I hear something back from them. I gave a link to this thread, and hope they take the time to check it all out!

[cheri]

I guess that isn't the woman's world magazine site... but you know.. if people are still posting her success story with those fake pictures they need to be told?

[jayed]

Originally Posted by cheri

This isn't the womans world magazine site is it? And if so.. shouldn't they take down this advertisement?

Details Of Kimkins Diet

That site doesn't look like an official site. This is the link to the publisher.

BAUER MAGAZINES | The Better Way to Sell.

[mimi]

Originally Posted by cheri

This isn't the womans world magazine site is it? And if so.. shouldn't they take down this advertisement?

Details Of Kimkins Diet

Yes, they should, Cheri. I emailed them. So should everyone else---no matter if it is the publisher.

[ShellyW]

Hi cheri and mimi - fancy meeting u guys here

[BellaHMB]

Thanks Julie. I think it was just another part of the scam.

Bella

[halldot]

OK - I caught another discrepancy in TT's comments, someone correct me if I'm wrong - she said a bariatric dr was interested in coming on board the KIMKINS wagon because he "tries not" to do surgery? If he's a bariatric surgeon, this is where his money comes from - why would he want to support something that would make his specialty obsolete? Did anyone else catch this? I also don't think I've ever met a surgeon who thinks things can be fixed just as easily without surgery - it kind of goes against their thought process to go in there and "fix" it fast.

Comments?

[BamaGal]

Originally Posted by cheri

This isn't the womans world magazine site is it? And if so.. shouldn't they take down this advertisement?

Details Of Kimkins Diet

Wouter Van Dyck---he is one of the authors of a bunch of KK articles on EzineArticles site---plus "he" has many articles I call pay per post type things...

[Jazlyn]

Originally Posted by robsrib