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Old 11-15-2007, 05:31 PM   #2911
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And who in their right mind would wear a green bracelet with that outfit? Puh-leeze!!
I bet Brandon likes green alot.
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:37 PM   #2912
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In a photoshopped picture when you blow it up it looks like this one. In a non photoshopped picture the edges are smooth and there would be no discoloration in the picture what so ever. You can see a lot of the edges where it was changed are straight. Who has a perfectly straight edges on their body besides spongebob? Notice when you blow it up that even the top of her head is flat. That is because pixels were taken out. This was definately photoshopped. Even in the discoloration you can see where she took the pixels out.

Some of the edges are due to enlarging a small jpg.

That said, see how her blouse is in front at the bottom? That is from being photoshopped. NO WAY is that an un-retouched pic.
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Some of the edges are due to enlarging a small jpg.

That said, see how her blouse is in front at the bottom? That is from being photoshopped. NO WAY is that an un-retouched pic.

Also, look at those "smeary" bits OFF her body...in the white area....that is added....
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:43 PM   #2914
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wonder if anyone got a picture of her on monday?

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Maybe with 40 or more pounds down, a new bra, and some mighty powerful Spanx.

That's what I thought when I saw the KTLA video with her in the black pants and red top. Some desperate (Kimmer-style) crash dieting and some snug new Spanx.
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:44 PM   #2916
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These Kimmer questions are really starting to bug. But I wonder if that isn't the point. I'm sure she's getting some perverse amusement out of our irritation.
I personally am not irritated. However, I will humiliate her in any way I have available to me. Lying liars who lie deserve to be exposed. Hell hath no fury like a member unjustly banned!

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Some of the edges are due to enlarging a small jpg.

That said, see how her blouse is in front at the bottom? That is from being photoshopped. NO WAY is that an un-retouched pic.
I wondered about that blouse. It just looks weird. Blouses are not cut like that.
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:48 PM   #2918
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MissM that is what I at first found so odd. We all know that Heidi can not go without adoration for too long! It has been suggested to me by others when I asked about someone with this type of personality-I want to share with y'all some posts from another board where this was discussed.
A member had expressed that Kimmer's lack of control over her eating gave power to her rage against the eating of others.


Another question and the psychologist's post:
My post and question:

The reply from the pyschologist:


Very interesting insight I thought...and scary as well.
HB2 thanks for the insight. I'm reading the thread last post first so just saw this one.

One way the helpless Kimmer can still be in control is if she is consciously doing so in order to manipulate others. The weakness is just the garb of an accomplished actress. As long as she knows she is smarter than the people who are being duped, she's still in charge.

Or...perhaps she really does have MPD and no integrated knowledge of her other selves.

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Old 11-15-2007, 05:52 PM   #2919
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I don't know anything about photoshop but even I can tell that pic has been messed with!! I still think Brandon should have done a deposition.
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I don't know anything about photoshop but even I can tell that pic has been messed with!! I still think Brandon should have done a deposition.
ITA!! I can't wait to hear the explanation about what went on with that! The only thing I can figure out is that when KK was formed, he was a minor.
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One more thing. Those 'success stories' were not reenactments. They were not compilations of past victories because she somehow 'couldn't take the stories with her' from this site. They were not marketing blunders.

They were fraud. Deliberate, civil and criminal fraud. Period. They were intentional deception with intent to profit. That is a crime.

She wrote stories that would sell the site to different market segments she wanted to target, and then combed the internet looking for photos to steak and exploit.

She may have picked up convenient details of posts and emails here and there, to add life to her lies, and then packaged them up into better-than-life scenarios, but she was not accurately depicting previous true stories. If so, where are those stories, the people here who recognized themselves in her 'reenactments'? If so, it would still be illegal to do it that way.

One thing that always bothered me was how Heidi would congratulate herself so much if a new member came in and reported good losses. That 'proved' that everything she said was true.

Now, if later that same member slowed down, stalled, fell away, binged, regained, had health problems or whatever? Unless they came humbly, praising Kimmer and begging for her magnificent help, they were ignored like they never existed. If they complained about their results, they were told they were probably not honest in what they were reporting, that they were cheating, and needed to cut more.

Now, if they properly recognized Kimmer's greatness, they were treated to her munificent favor.

Otherwise, in her selective handling of reality, she only saw that which substantiated her claims. She never saw the other parts.
"that member"..I'm only quoting that because I know I'm not the only one that Kimmer ignored on her site I never praised Kimmer. She always ignored me. I asked for help because I was struggling eating so little. I pmed her. I was ignored. I thought she was too busy and frankly, I thought she was rude to never respond. However, Becky reading your post today, I now remember you and how you kept answering my questions with kindness and compassion. even though you weren't the one that I was directing my questions to.
Thank you Becky
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I'm no lawyer, but if a grown woman can successfully sue McDonald's for being scaled with hot coffee she herself held between her own legs while driving (and I do think their lids said "Caution, contents hot" before the suit, but maybe not), I can't see Kimmer's disclaimer holding water in light of all of the statements she herself made both publically and privately.

Just my opinion, for what that's worth ...
Beyond the fact I considered that an asinine lawsuit (and ALL the coffee shops immediately added the warning about "Hot Contents" to their takeout cups, as well as lowering the hot setting by 10*F after the coffee was made), a scald is visible and verifiable. It is also immediate. Try proving that a weight gain that took place, maybe for the umpteenth time, and a defunct thyroid contributing to that weight gain, are the results of a single event, or even a single diet. Then tie in the health consequences of a defunct thyroid - the hair loss, the heart palpitations, the subnormal body temps, acne, and whatever else as a single happening. Can't be done. (Although Oprah tried to blame her thyroid condition on her overwork and schedule last spring. Nah, it's been years in the making with all her yo-yo weight loss. It merely caught up to her at last.)
Like I said - if a virgin (first time) dieter started with Kimkins, followed it w/o deviation, had no bad habits, and was 100% healthy according to a full roster of tests taken when she started, and THEN she keeled over dead, you might have the basis for a provable lawsuit. But I'd rather see Heidi get finger-slapped and walk away free than see that possibility come true. And now it's no longer Kimkins, but Atkins with a tweak. Guess who else, besides the obviously unbalanced and now deceased dieter who cut her doctor out of the loop will get the blame? Right, Atkins and low carb eating in general.
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Lynn - I don't know what to say. I deeply regret my involvement with aiding Kimkins and Kimmer in any way, and I am heartsick for my part in it. I did genuinely care for the members, and wanted to help, though I was mistaken in believing Kimmer's claim of diet expertise.

I hope all is well with you now.
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And who in their right mind would wear a green bracelet with that outfit? Puh-leeze!!
Looks like a hospital bracelet to me, the kind they give as an i.d. whether you're admitted or not. Or maybe she just likes flat green bracelets worn so tightly that they need to be cut off before her circulation is.
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Beyond the fact I considered that an asinine lawsuit (and ALL the coffee shops immediately added the warning about "Hot Contents" to their takeout cups, as well as lowering the hot setting by 10*F after the coffee was made), a scald is visible and verifiable. It is also immediate. Try proving that a weight gain that took place, maybe for the umpteenth time, and a defunct thyroid contributing to that weight gain, are the results of a single event, or even a single diet. Then tie in the health consequences of a defunct thyroid - the hair loss, the heart palpitations, the subnormal body temps, acne, and whatever else as a single happening. Can't be done. (Although Oprah tried to blame her thyroid condition on her overwork and schedule last spring. Nah, it's been years in the making with all her yo-yo weight loss. It merely caught up to her at last.)
Like I said - if a virgin (first time) dieter started with Kimkins, followed it w/o deviation, had no bad habits, and was 100% healthy according to a full roster of tests taken when she started, and THEN she keeled over dead, you might have the basis for a provable lawsuit. But I'd rather see Heidi get finger-slapped and walk away free than see that possibility come true. And now it's no longer Kimkins, but Atkins with a tweak. Guess who else, besides the obviously unbalanced and now deceased dieter who cut her doctor out of the loop will get the blame? Right, Atkins and low carb eating in general.
Causation is always one of the trickiest elements to prove. I'm not saying that a lawsuit for health problems is viable or not. I'm not a personal injury lawyer. If there is someone out there who has had these types of issues and is considering taking action, I hope he/she seeks the advice of a PI attorney regardless of what we opine here.
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IMO, the newest photo she has on her webpage (the sideways one) has been Photoshopped...and it was retouched with the Liquify filter, pushing pixels..look at the 'crinkle' in her pants just above her thigh...But, that's just *my* opinion....
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IMO, the newest photo she has on her webpage (the sideways one) has been Photoshopped...and it was retouched with the Liquify filter, pushing pixels..look at the 'crinkle' in her pants just above her thigh...But, that's just *my* opinion....
I thought the crinkle in her pants was highly suspect.
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Some of the edges are due to enlarging a small jpg.

That said, see how her blouse is in front at the bottom? That is from being photoshopped. NO WAY is that an un-retouched pic.
I was just about to comment that her blouse front is pretty high for not covering a large stomach, but you beat me to it. I agree. How can she lose 100 lbs from a photo with losing only 23 lbs in reality? Heidi, can I borrow your photo skinnier? Thanks. I need to lose 80 lbs by tomorrow.
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IMO, the newest photo she has on her webpage (the sideways one) has been Photoshopped...and it was retouched with the Liquify filter, pushing pixels..look at the 'crinkle' in her pants just above her thigh...But, that's just *my* opinion....
I think you're right on.
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Isn't the bracelet one of those for a cause? Like the pink ones are for Breast Cancer? Yellow is Lance Armstrong, etc. I don't know what the green is but nowdays you can buy all sorts of colors with all sorts of sayings on them. Wonder what hers says. (Kimkins?)
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Lynn - I don't know what to say. I deeply regret my involvement with aiding Kimkins and Kimmer in any way, and I am heartsick for my part in it. I did genuinely care for the members, and wanted to help, though I was mistaken in believing Kimmer's claim of diet expertise.

I hope all is well with you now.
Becky,
I'm fine I finally put two and two together when I saw your post about members being ignored when they didn't fawn over Kimmer.
Then, it clicked and I remembered you. Like I said previously, you were so very nice. I sincerely mean that.
Please, never feel bad about being associated with her. We were all duped. I honestly thought that she knew what she was talking about. I saw her picture in the white blouse and sitting on the patio chair and I thought to myself, "this woman is beautiful". I feel sick for even writing that
I believe, in the end, she'll get what is coming to her!
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P.S. When you answered everyone's questions, including mine, your caring and concern came thru loud and clear!
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Isn't the bracelet one of those for a cause? Like the pink ones are for Breast Cancer? Yellow is Lance Armstrong, etc. I don't know what the green is but nowdays you can buy all sorts of colors with all sorts of sayings on them. Wonder what hers says. (Kimkins?)
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WELLNESS - The Ultimate Goal Green Wristband

Official Fight Obesity Rubber Bracelet WELLNESS - The Ultimate Goal Green Wristband

This is the official Fight Obesity rubber bracelet produced by the Mercy Foundation. Our belief is that obesity needs to be viewed as a community disease with a public health treatment approach to change the current trend. The Foundation offers scholarships to individuals to attend lifestyle modification classes at participating weight loss centers. The Foundation started in 2003 by Mercy Obeime, M.D., a family physician at St. Francis Hospital in Indianapolis, Indiana. The vision of the Foundation is to be the catalyst that instills in all of us the need to celebrate life as a precious gift, to prevent premature deaths in vulnerable populations and to restore hope in those who have lost hope from the burdens of society, disease or illness. The Foundation works to provide health care services and education to people in need. The focus is on obesity and wellness; and in Nigeria the focus is on preventable diseases, especially HIV/AIDS.
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Isn't the bracelet one of those for a cause? Like the pink ones are for Breast Cancer? Yellow is Lance Armstrong, etc. I don't know what the green is but nowdays you can buy all sorts of colors with all sorts of sayings on them. Wonder what hers says. (Kimkins?)
I think you're right. I have a couple of those bracelets. I don't think I have a green one though. At least I hope not. I'd hate to have something in common with her.
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I found this:

WELLNESS - The Ultimate Goal Green Wristband

Official Fight Obesity Rubber Bracelet WELLNESS - The Ultimate Goal Green Wristband

This is the official Fight Obesity rubber bracelet produced by the Mercy Foundation. Our belief is that obesity needs to be viewed as a community disease with a public health treatment approach to change the current trend. The Foundation offers scholarships to individuals to attend lifestyle modification classes at participating weight loss centers. The Foundation started in 2003 by Mercy Obeime, M.D., a family physician at St. Francis Hospital in Indianapolis, Indiana. The vision of the Foundation is to be the catalyst that instills in all of us the need to celebrate life as a precious gift, to prevent premature deaths in vulnerable populations and to restore hope in those who have lost hope from the burdens of society, disease or illness. The Foundation works to provide health care services and education to people in need. The focus is on obesity and wellness; and in Nigeria the focus is on preventable diseases, especially HIV/AIDS.
What a humanitarian she is!
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