Why the fascination with Kimmer? #9

[Purple Crayon]

Hi y'all,

I'm still back on page 80 something of thread 8.

In case Ducky or the Truth are listening, I really miss the updates on your blogs. I get way too far behind trying to keep up with this board. Hint, Hint, Hint.

Anyone seen Heidikimtoes lately?

[ryudragon]

Originally Posted by serenity_aus

ryudragon - contact quiggley. She was the one who said she'd met him personally at some training college or other and knew the inside goss

I sent her a pm

[Pam in TX]

Marking my spot on the new thread...........

[Katinsac]

You guys don't have to mark your spot. All you have to do is open the thread and click on "View First Thread" at the top (blue bar--left) and it will take you right to the next post you hadn't read and you can start from there.

[streaker1971]

You know, he gets me with all the underscores between words in his posts. I have read that computer programmers use this for compound words. Wonder if he has some computer experience in there somewhere?? Or has that been determined??

[Elloise]

Originally Posted by streaker1971

You know, he gets me with all the underscores between words in his posts. I have read that computer programmers use this for compound words. Wonder if he has some computer experience in there somewhere?? Or has that been determined??

I'm a programmer and while it could be true, I'm thinking that most of his underscores come from typing into another word processing type software and then copy/pasting into to thread. I could be wrong, though. (And I quite often am).

LetsHopeHeDoesntStartUsingCamelNotation. ThatWouldReallyDriveUsCrazy.

[BobbiOh]

Originally Posted by ryudragon

In any case, I'm not sorry I filed, I just hope he and those he knows aren't psychotic, having my mailing address and all.

<wiping off the old psych degree>

From a psychological point of view: His letter to you was personal vs. professional. ie:"Why are you doing this to ME?!?" This was not a normal response which would have been professional vs personal. ie:"I understand that you're concerned. Here are my credentials."

Honestly, in your position I'd be concerned. Your request for investigation is being viewed as a personal attack. At the very least, keep the letter. You might want to consider going one step further and show the letter to the police. It's just a heads up for the police to know that you might have a problem with Dr. Mark in the future. And if, God forbid, you end up in a position where you need a restraining order against him, the proof of previous contact will make it easier.

[SMP]

Originally Posted by conbofan9

that's what I am thinking!!! scare tactics! first things first, she needs to find out IF the agency really gave him her info. which I highly DOUBT!!! you cannot request an inquiry on someone, or file a complaint on someone and have the agency give THEM your INFO!!! it just seems wrong to me...screw up? leak? or all a lie once again...just when you thought it couldnt get any stranger......it gets stranger!

And in case nobody else came to the same conclusions I did - we KNOW Tippy et al are keeping up with our posts here (seem to have a lot of time on their hands lately, doncha think?). He/she/it saw RUDragon's post about investigating Dr. Mark, and just happened to have her address on file as a disgruntled member. So when Mark came fuming to Tippy, she/he/it could make sure a nasty/nice letter got sent. In fact, I think it was from Mark himself. For one thing, there were no egregious spelling and grammatical errors! OTOH, an "accused" is entitled to the name of his accuser in other fields, why not this one? Except that he never treated Dragon, although it's evident he regards her as one. For another, it's nowhere as nasty as Tippy and Heidi can spew. Methinks Mark got caught with his hand in the cookie jar and is sweating bullets over his "enthusiastic" job description.

[Sheridan]

Originally Posted by doxielvr

And if he is "practicing" within the realm of what he is quaified to do, licensed appropriately, etc. then you cannot "ruin his life" by raising questions.

Exactly.

Originally Posted by ryudragon

I think he's protesting a bit too much.

Me too.

Originally Posted by Violet Skye

As for the custody arrangement he has with his kids' mom, this is abso-freaking-lutely none of my business. It also has nothing to do with his professional practice, and aside from riling up people who are going through this or have gone through this, this part of the discussion serves no purpose whatsoever IMHO.

His including such personal information and PICTURES of his family is over-the-top UNPROFESSIONAL, fer cryin' out loud! WHY would someone in their right mind send pics of their wife and kids to a total stranger, and someone they perceive is "out to get them" ('ruin their life' )?!? That's disordered thinking right there. Fits right in with the rest of the KK crew, though. Sheeesh.

Originally Posted by fjeld

I've just become a member and wanted to thank you guys for the entertainment you've given me with your comments since I started following the Kimmer threads and for accomplishing the pending downfall of "the Kimmer" a k a wrecker of hopes and health.

I only tried Kimkins for a week last spring after reading about it in some old threads here on the LCF forum. Lost a couple of kilos and gained them all back with the first piece of cauliflower I put in my mouth... And it also severely tampered with my tastebuds' regard for ovenbaked chicken au naturel

In spite of this I considered trying Kimkins again this fall. "Kimmer" seemed so nice and what an example! But luckily I found my way here and to some blogs instead and found out the truth


I'm thinking The Lady in Red by Chris de Burgh is a perfect theme song to this Kimmer "saga" although a version performed by ducks would be preferable. There's actually a woman reclining in a patio chair in the video

Nice to 'meet' you!


I'm really glad you were able to talk with the investigator! Keep us as apprised as you're able, please.

[Tanner]

Originally Posted by ryudragon

**my name removed**,

“Today I received a visit from the Florida Department of Health in response to your complaint about me practicing outside the scope of my license. I responded satisfactorily to them, where they found no violations, but I wanted to give you a more personal response.

I think it is time you took a serious look at your life and what is important. You are attacking a stranger based solely on being a disgruntled Kimkins “victim.” You obviously have an extraordinary amount of hate built up inside you and need an outlet. Why was this outlet me?

I am a man, with a wife and children, that has dedicated his life to helping EVERYONE HE COMES IN CONTACT WITH. My life has been filled with thousands of hours of education and instructing toward that end. If you were to ask anyone who knows me, attends my seminars, or is a patient of mine, they would tell you this and more. You have not met me though. You have not talked to me, my patients, my students or my family. You have formed your opinion to judge me and try to ruin my life based on your experiences in front of your computer. I find that quite sad.”

***inserted picture of him with wife & 2 kids***

“I enclosed this picture just so you could get a personal perspective on what you are doing. This is my family, my two children and my new wife. Did you know that every other Friday I drive 5 hours to pick them up for the weekend, only to bring them back Sunday afternoon? Did you know I have been doing this for six years? I love them and would do anything to make them grow up healthy, strong and loved. Did you know my wife is in the health and healing professions? Did you know that we have been inseparable since we met four years ago? I even take her on the road with me for seminars. Of course you didn’t. The little box on your desk didn’t tell you that. You just saw an “enemy” whether he was good or bad.

The internet is filled with people, both good and bad, but nonetheless people. They have lives and families. Most of them are honest and caring, some are not. I just thought someone should let you know.

Yours in Health,

Mark T Brinson and Family”

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxx

I’m thinking of writing him back, although he did not put a return address on his letter. . . hmmmmm.
Oh well dr. Mark, this will sound callous to such an upstanding and moral citizen, but I don’t care a rat’s behind about your personal life – I DO care about the lives of people you may be harming with your vast medical background and ability to practice across multiple specialties that normally take years of formal training and licensure by reputable boards, but you can practice without censure because you’re an acupuncturist. I’m still waiting for the Division of Medical Quality Assurance to get back to me on their findings. If Florida allows this kind broad scope of ‘medical’ practice without proper licensure I would warn everyone in that State to do a through investigation of their own health care providers. Oh, and I have no “hate” inside, just a healthy dose of fear and skepticism. . . as I said before, I’m not attacking anyone. . . an individual with proper licensure practicing within the guidelines of their specialty has nothing to fear; individuals check on real doctor’s and lawyers credentials all the time, but how many of those doctors and lawyers send off letters to the one inquiring spewing personal info, photos and the claim that someone is trying ’to ruin his life?’

Why didnt he sign it Dr Mark? -- If you are in the profession then being checked out is well -- part of the game - Hate marytrs who play the victim card.. Anyone have some Cheese to go with his Whine?

[Tanner]

Originally Posted by rebel

Aaaaaaaand -- we're off! Just like a horse race. I'm glad we've got some action going. The only action I've had the last couple of days is trying to stay out of the light to keep the sun from shining on my scalp where my hair has fallen out! I don't want Heidi to think we are letting her off the hook.

Ryudragon -- I think I would contact the investigator. If you send that letter to them, be sure to keep yourself a copy of it.

KEEP THE ORIGNAL - send a photocopy

[CarolynF]

News....

Check out Kimkins Dangers because they are looking for ex-KKers to fly to NYC to be on the Mike and Juliet show this Friday!!!! And, it's a Fox Cable Show, so we should all be able to see it!!!

[Tanner]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Wow, he is in touch with his feminine side!!!
Suggestions- Keep the envelope in which the letter came.
Do not contact him in response to the letter.
You have already sent the letter to the investigator so that was the correct thing to do.
How very odd for "Dr." Mark to try to divert the topic from one of facts to one of emotion. He must have taken debating 101 from Kimmer at Kimkins Institute

He's prob reading this site too.. ( now )

[Cutie]

Originally Posted by Tanner

He's prob reading this site too.. ( now )

hi "dr." mark

[Cutie]

Originally Posted by CarolynF

News....

Check out Kimkins Dangers because they are looking for ex-KKers to fly to NYC to be on the Mike and Juliet show this Friday!!!! And, it's a Fox Cable Show, so we should all be able to see it!!!

i've been hearing good things about this development!!

[Mommy2Many]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

Well, I'm wondering why such a devoted father and family man would live that far away from his children in the first place.

Agreed - my husband won't leave the county until my youngest s'kid is 18, and we've chased them as far as Phoenix to get to see them. (Their Texas decree says that as long as they both live in the county, he/we have to drive both ways, but if he stays in the county and she leaves, we have to go get them - but she has to come get them, which makes it feasible for us to fly to them, if necessary, a few times a year).

[serenity_aus]

I just got newsletter #22 in my email.

KimATC - I vaguely remember you mentioning an "artical" you wrote about selecting a trainer... is this yours?

How to Pick a Personal Trainer?
There's a reason movie stars and financial moguls use personal trainers: Working with a trainer is one of the fastest, easiest, most successful ways to improve your health and fitness.


In fact, personal training has proved so effective that it has spread well beyond the realm of the rich and famous.

Today, personal trainers are used by people of all fitness, age and economic levels to help make lifestyle changes those people couldn't achieve by themselves.


How do you know if hiring a personal trainer is the right choice for you?...snip

[Diana]

Well we will need to get the Morningshow segment on You Tube. A lot of us are at work when it comes on.... I'd love to see it, even if it is for 5 minutes

[Pam in TX]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

You guys don't have to mark your spot. All you have to do is open the thread and click on "View First Thread" at the top (blue bar--left) and it will take you right to the next post you hadn't read and you can start from there.

Actually not marking for reading........ for joining the thread.........

[serenity_aus]

Originally Posted by Pam in TX

Actually not marking for reading........ for joining the thread.........

Click on thread tools in the blue tool bar above, and then click on subscribe. Choose method you'd like the notifications to be sent to you.

[MJR]

Originally Posted by serenity_aus

I just got newsletter #22 in my email.

KimATC - I vaguely remember you mentioning an "artical" you wrote about selecting a trainer... is this yours?

Yea, I was thinking the same thing when I received the email.
If so, I think it was a BIG slap in the face from Heidi after reading our posts here.
Hi, Heidi!
Hi, Tippy!

[MJR]

Where do you find the strength................ Hours, Minutes ago im really struggling with this at the moment, i dont seem to have any will power or strength to pull myself through the hard times of this diet - i do so well in the week and i really stick to it and then when it comes to the weekend I find it increasingly difficult not to slip up - I know that only i control what goes in my mouth but it feels like there is someone inside of me putting all this food in my mouth. i desberatly need to loose this weight and im starting to feel that I cant.
Please can someone help me.
In your moments of weakness or just before, what do you do to stop yourself from taking that first bite of doom???? I want this so much and i have a deadline of May next year to do this, i know that it doesnt seem to be alot to loose in such a large period of time but when your losing in the week and gaining at weekends week in and week out it feels like i am unable to ever get to that final point of success.
I would just like some hints and tips of what other people do to help when they feel weak!

Thanks
xxxx


Where do you find the strength................ xx Hours, x Minutes ago I fight the urges during the week and the weekend because I am a stay at home mom who has gone back to school. I find myself wanting to 'snack' while studying but I don't. I made some cookies for the family (then made angel bites for me) and I put a bite of cookie dough in my mouth..half chewed it and spit it out. I wanted to swallow it but I coudln't do it. I didn't want to even go down that path (hence the reason I made the angel bites and I ate every single 1 LOL for 3 carbs).

Its just a matter of saying NO and staying out of the kitchen. I really try to do that. When I start, grazing, I just leave the kitchen. It is super hard though. /hugs hugs hugs

I know that probably didn't help you but just know that I am in the same boat with you and its just determination for me.


Re:Where do you find the strength................ xx Hours, x Minutes ago Hi
I fight within my mind.. I really dont want to screw up.. Well I did on Sat.. I was at Walmart and I had put some cookies and candy in my basket... I was fighting within me.. Do I really want it? Yes I do.. then I look at what I have done over the last 3 1/2 months, of how well I have done and lost.. And I am walking around Walmart doing this and then I went and put them back and walked out of Walmart without them.. But then at dinner time I made my hubby cornbread and pinto beans. I ate some cornbread for dinner.. Not the whole pan but a slice.. When I (cheat not very often) I eat maybe one thing but in a smaller amount. I dont contiune to cheat the rest of the day or 2 days etc. I get right back on plan..

Good Luck..


My Comment:
These KK posts are some of the ones that make me SO sad.
Makes me want to jump through my computer screen and shake them and say "wake up! Food is not the enemy" If these aren't eating disorder thoughts - I don't know what is. Why are they following this? Why can't they see what they are doing to themselves? Why doesn't their family see what they are doing to themselves? The first poster is only 140 lbs. Yet still talks of "the bite of doom"
I just don't get it. Why don't they understand that if they didn't DEPRIVE themselves constantly, if they weren't starving themselves, they would probably make better or healthier choices when they were faced with the need to eat something "off plan"
They are surely setting themselves up for complete failure and self hate by thinking this way.
Sorry for venting... it just makes me sad!

[JustKim]

Originally Posted by serenity_aus

I just got newsletter #22 in my email.

KimATC - I vaguely remember you mentioning an "artical" you wrote about selecting a trainer... is this yours?

no, that isn't one I wrote. This reads like a canned "artical" she "lifted" from someplace

Actually kind of surprised she didn't use the last one I had written before resigning as she would take pleasure (I have come to believe) in zinging me. She seems to know just what buttons to push and just how to get me I guess.