Why the fascination with Kimmer? #9

[htxfroggy]

The new revised one? or the old one?

Sorry catching up, the new site.

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Hi Shelly that is the petition that has been going around, there has been mention of it but it never hurts to remind people.
I would post the link in my links of ways to take action to those that would be new to the thread or if they asked.
The petition has been sent but it is also being sent as new signatures are added.
Everyone sign if you haven't already!

Honey, I think it was signing this petition that got the letter sent to me from the CA Attorney General. But then again, I could be wrong. After they banned me, I went on a tirade complaining to everybody and their brother! Hell hath no fury like a member banned!

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by ShellyW

Not sure but with email addy listed I will contact the person who started it. Honeybee maybe you would be a better choice you have so much information. I would love to see the people who signed it who havent found their way here to "find you" I was never involved with kimkims, but support you all totaly and Hate when people are taken advantage of in their weight loss, or anything else. Honeybee let me know if you would like to take care of this or if you want me to pop her a quick email. Thanks

It has been on here before. I used to post it all the time. In fact look one page earlier on page 29 where I reference that list. (Click on my link to my referenced post to Arbah)
I am not sure if you are saying to post it here again or to contact the person who started the petition? Or is there somewhere I should post the "List of links". I am game for anything. Just let me know what I need to do!

[anipomoni]

I really hope Deni and Christin point out that they most likely have damaged their metabolisms and will have a struggle to keep this weight off forever. Maybe this will deter people from rushing to join KK.
TT has also damaged her thyroid, but she will never admit that (although I hope to God they bring it up).

I used to watch ER often and I remember Yvette Freeman had lost a TON of weight a few years ago. Well she has since gained a LOT of it back. This was how she lost it:

Under the supervision of doctors, nutritionists, and psychologists, she switched to a diet of 100-calorie shakes, made with vitamin-enriched powder, downing up to seven per day. "The first week or two, you're holding on by your fingernails," says Freeman, who also attends weekly "AA-like" support groups with fellow dieters. "You don't have to do it as strict as I did, but once I made up my mind, I said, 'I'm going to go for it.'"

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

Honey, I think it was signing this petition that got the letter sent to me from the CA Attorney General. But then again, I could be wrong. After they banned me, I went on a tirade complaining to everybody and their brother! Hell hath no fury like a member banned!

I have never gotten a letter and I signed that petition hundreds of signatures ago?!??! ::: pouts because Terry gets all the letters from important people, me just the letter from the Terminator's staff:::

[Magicsmom]

Does anyone know if Heidi has ever gone by the name of Heidi Kimberly Miller?

[ShellyW]

There was a email of the person who started the link.. Question is - when or how often its being forwarded? I also wonder if there is a way to let them know there are other people or places to go.. (like here) to get help support and ideas and it wont cost them anything. I just would hate to see them stumbling around going now what
It might have read it wrong, but I thought you said it was being forward as new names appear. Do you think we can sign it and mention a link to here?

[Just4Me]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

Does anyone know if Heidi has ever gone by the name of Heidi Kimberly Miller?

Isn't that her maiden name?

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

I have never gotten a letter and I signed that petition hundreds of signatures ago?!??! ::: pouts because Terry gets all the letters from important people, me just the letter from the Terminator's staff:::

Well pfffffft! The Terminator's staff has never written me! *pout*

[ShellyW]

I had a friend doing metafast once. 800 calories. Everytwo weeks had to go to the doctor for blood work and check ups. He stated anything below that was unacceptable. And they always checking liver, kidneys and other funtions (sorry dont want to sound like a tippy typer ) But you were never allowed to skip a shake or another packaged option. And i am still amazed at how low the calories were. But this was supervised by a doctor with framed certificates on the wall

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by Just4Me

Isn't that her maiden name?

It appears to be, I was wondering if anyone else had run across that.

ETA: Never mind, I just found it all over the blogs. It's her maiden name.

[Katinsac]

That petition might have been put on Craigs List by one of the powers who be that started it...just wondering. May not even be someone who isn't already familiar with all of this.

[ShellyW]

OK I will email her.. I will let you know Honeybee what happens.

[ShellyW]

I will catch up with ladies in the am. Honeybee i will pm you then if i hear anything. Told her you had some great stuff if she needed it. Again if you have already done this, i am surely not trying to step on your toes. I just needed a break from the russain grooms who may or maynot have been photo shop altered

Adding that I also asked her if she had emails. I gave mine as being able to give to the creator. If she has them I told here there were all kinds of former kimkims people here and maybe she could somehow let them know that free advise, several types of plans and a whole lot of support for free could be found here

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by ShellyW

I had a friend doing metafast once. 800 calories. Everytwo weeks had to go to the doctor for blood work and check ups. He stated anything below that was unacceptable. And they always checking liver, kidneys and other funtions (sorry dont want to sound like a tippy typer ) But you were never allowed to skip a shake or another packaged option. And i am still amazed at how low the calories were. But this was supervised by a doctor with framed certificates on the wall

He wasn't a "Doctor of Oriental Medicine" now was he?

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by ShellyW

I will catch up with ladies in the am. Honeybee i will pm you then if i hear anything. Told her you had some great stuff if she needed it. Again if you have already done this, i am surely not trying to step on your toes. I just needed a break from the russain grooms who may or maynot have been photo shop altered

Oh gosh no, not stepping on my toes. I am just doing what I can like everyone else. I just was not sure what you were asking in your post. Maybe I am sleep deprived because I still am unclear but here is the link posts if it helps. You can copy and paste it from here if you need it.
#3 The Kimmer on KTLA

IMPORTANT LINKS: TO HELP FIGHT BACK and SOME TO GET YOUR HEALTH BACK
Sign the petition
Request for Kimkins Investigation Petition
This petition goes to the Federal Trade Commission, Better Business Bureau, and the California Attorney General.

Contact the Federal Trade Commission
Federal Trade Commission - Offices and Bureaus
“The FTC enters Internet, telemarketing, identity theft and other fraud-related complaints into Consumer Sentinel®, a secure, online database available to hundreds of civil and criminal law enforcement agencies worldwide.”

Internet Crime Complaint Center
http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/
The IC3 is co-sponsored by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C)

Lawsuit
Kimkinslawsuit’s Weblog

IRS tax fraud
To make a report to the IRS that Heidi Diaz may be committing tax fraud-
How Do You Report Suspected Tax Fraud Activity?

BBB
To do a review at the Better Business Bureau
Company Report
If you feel that Kimkins/Kimmer/Heidi Diaz has not been truthful in advertising and is dangerous and file a complaint if the situation applies. A review first though.

Office of the Inspector General
To Report Possible Social Security fraud
Report Fraud to the Hotline

Address and Contact Information for Kimkins that is needed for the forms
Kimkins Address-
529 North McKinley Street 104-309
Corona,
CA 92879 Phone-(951) 258-3976
LINKS TO HELP YOU FIND A HEALTHIER YOU:

kimkins-refugees-support
Thyroid
Building a healthy way of eating based on kimkins
Compiled Research on VLCD risks by a Pinch of Health
A Beginners guide to lowcarbing
atkins-nutritionals-interview-repairing-your-metabolisml

[ShellyW]

His first name is Mark I believe. But I know he went to collegge and Med school. I know they carefully follow anyone on this plan for any problems, before they cause major problems. He specializes in weight loss. Also they are required to attending meetings at least once a week for support. I do believe the prepackaged meals are designed to give them all the nutrion they need therefore elimating the hair and other issues around low calorie. I do know he told her anything below eight hundren can cause you body to attack fat / muscles *not sure which* sorry just cant remember its late. But i could sure ask her what the statment was. When i was telling her about kimkims she made the statement.

[ShellyW]

Honeybee I just want to make sure if there are people who signed and have now been lost in this, find there way to this link and this support. So i asked her if she could help in that matter, if she has emails. Second I told her if she needed back up information, that there were people here that could provide her all kinds of saved information, *this you may have already done* If she needs the information, I know you have everything, and would be more than willing to help her.

[Grizzy]

Originally Posted by MJR

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It's actually quite humorous to an educated reader. It sort of sounds like a bunch of writers for tabloids that you pick up at the grocery stand. But these writers have little education and no finesse.


None of us really care about the real personal stuff about Kimmer. I mean, we do, but we stand behind the program, the ideal, the way it started. We were the pioneers that saw what she was talking about a long time ago. I just liked her from the beginning, I liked the conviction of her words, I liked her proposals of what worked and didn't work. She built inspiration in those of us who listened to her. I never senses that Kimmer was ready for a fight over at the board. I sensed that she stood firm in her beliefs and that was all. She took the criticism gracefully and the stepped up criticism and eventual catfighting until really, she had to go. What could she do?

I believe strongly that Kimmers has maintained professional courtesy consistantly. At least any time I visit, or what I've read, I've not seen Kimmer lend credibility to any of the bad mouthing nor has she played any hand of back biting or bad mouthing. That speaks more to her integrity.

I just can't believe that the admin at the other board would even allow this kind of stuff. They are way too big and I thought, professional for this. What a fire, what a stir.

By the way, did anyone ever think the girl in the red dress was supposed to be Kimmer? Am I way out of it? [b]But I didn't ever have the impression that it was her. I never thought Kimmer was projecting her to be Kimmer.

The bolding is mine. This is totally Kimmer. Stroke those of you smart enough to get it and to have been on side for so long. Those that don't get it are just stupid and uneducated. Hideykins is "aw shucks just a private gal who likes to help folks lose weight that is all". She won't defend herself she will post as sockpuppets to rally the troops.

And cast doubt on the real issues while refusing to answer the big questions. Bait and switch.

She must have laid off (or is it layed off? ) the Captain Morgans and really worked on this to soften it but if you have read her work here in the old days you will recognize all of the classic manipulation patterns of her style.

Yup that is Kimmer/Hideykins. No doubt.

[CarolynF]

Originally Posted by ShellyW

Honeybee I just want to make sure if there are people who signed and have now been lost in this, find there way to this link and this support. So i asked her if she could help in that matter, if she has emails. Second I told her if she needed back up information, that there were people here that could provide her all kinds of saved information, *this you may have already done* If she needs the information, I know you have everything, and would be more than willing to help her.

This petition was started months ago and it was posted on Ducky's blog as well as many other anti-KKins blog. I'm sure 99 percent of the people who signed this know about us or other lowcarb sites that are healthy ways of eating.

The petition is being left on-line for those who continue to want to sign it...like yourself. It's a good thing..Maybe on Monday we will have lots more siggies..

[OhYeahBabe]

Re:Mike and Juliet TV Show x Hours, xx Minutes ago I am so thrilled that you have a chance to go on TV to talk about Kimkins. I was shocked this morning as I was flitting around the board and reading stuff. I found myself somewhere here that had been linked to a disgusting, website built specifically to bash and take down Kimkins. These people are evil.

As you read through their stuff though, it is clearly a vendetta, a vicious vendetta that has gone very personal as opposed to a professionally mounted and researched protest and claim. It's actually quite humorous to an educated reader. It sort of sounds like a bunch of writers for tabloids that you pick up at the grocery stand. But these writers have little education and no finesse.

Needless to say, some people don't cut through the BS that's out there, they can't, they don't know how, it's overwhelming, whatever. So having this wonderful opportunity to go on TV and discuss what Kimkins is about is wonderful.

(1) None of us really care about the real personal stuff about Kimmer. I mean, we do, but we stand behind the program, the ideal, the way it started. We were the pioneers that saw what she was talking about a long time ago. I just liked her from the beginning, I liked the conviction of her words, (2) I liked her proposals of what worked and didn't work. (3) She built inspiration in those of us who listened to her. I never senses that Kimmer was ready for a fight over at the board. I sensed that she stood firm in her beliefs and that was all. She took the criticism gracefully and the stepped up criticism and eventual catfighting until really, she had to go. What could she do?

(4) I believe strongly that Kimmers has maintained professional courtesy consistantly. At least any time I visit, or what I've read, (5) I've not seen Kimmer lend credibility to any of the bad mouthing nor has she played any hand of back biting or bad mouthing. That speaks more to her integrity.


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(1) It started with lies and manipulation.

(2) Eating doesn't work. Starving does.

(3) Inspiration? Via shame?

(4) What color are those glasses you have on?

(5) You are correct. She sits and schemes in silence, while her admin(ions) and sock puppets do all her work.

(6) I oversnipped, but no, I never thought the red dress girl was Kimmer, but she's the one who said it was - over and over, with elaborate lies. Apparently you're new.

ETA: I can't believe I'm responding to a sock puppet. I agree that this is Kimmer, I was just repsonding to the fake points she was trying to score.

[Elloise]

Originally Posted by ketosis

Yup that is Kimmer/Hideykins. No doubt.

I thought that, too, except for one glaring error.

"I never senses that Kimmer....."

I can't believe that Kimmer would make such a typo, even on purpose. She has impeccable grammer and spelling skills. I don't ever remember her making an error.

Obviously, Kimmer has a sky-high IQ, but what has she done with it? Nothing! What a waste.

[rebel]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Hi Shelly that is the petition that has been going around, there has been mention of it but it never hurts to remind people.
I would post the link in my links of ways to take action to those that would be new to the thread or if they asked.
The petition has been sent but it is also being sent as new signatures are added.
Everyone sign if you haven't already!

Thanks Honeybee! I just signed the petition