Why the fascination with Kimmer? #9 - Page 15

CarolynF · 11-07-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MJR

From...KK

Re:The Mike and Juliet TV Show x Day, x Hours ago tippy, people that have been to their doctors, well these doctors could sign something saying these people are in better health in their opinion and by their results. lets face it, if you have to defend, then use equal amunition if you know what i mean. alot of doctor's have been pleased with the results coming from this site- people are eating less cholesteral. flour and sugar is gone, we get support from others members in a desease that does or can lead to isolation and one person helping annother is so stronger than going anywhere and talking to a person that was hired because they had the right stats,- skinny. if i want to be skinny, then i will take advice from one that has done this sucessfully and understands all the weakness than some accusing eye of a skinny person that just doesnt get it but has the credentials. its really too bad you dont have enough time to arm yourself for this thing. can they rescedule?

Re:The Mike and Juliet TV Show x Day, x Hours ago I hope it is a fair interview. I worry that you will be ambushed. All of the publicity has been so negative. I really hope that you can change it, for all of us. And, I hope we are not overwhelmed with our opposition, again. So, be strong gals. Stay true to yourself and your beliefs! We are informed individuals, and this is our personal choice.

They're Getting Nervous?

That first poster must be a graduate of the Tippy School of Spelling..geewhiz..

Of course Tippy will be ambushed. This is a no brainer. We have the TRUTH on our side. No doctor in his right mind who allow a patient to eat 800 calories a day without constant medical supervision. And, that doesn't mean
Dr. Mark.

Magicsmom · 11-07-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MJR

<------------------ Hey, LOOK! I thiink my Betty Boop looks JUST LIKE Kimmer!!

(ya know, the one in the "red dress")

Afterall, can't you see all the twisting and turning my Betty's doing to get the best shot?

Oh, I forgot....I'm AMY! that's right.

Personally, I prefer the Betty Boop rubber duck in the red dress. Sort of kills all the ducks with one stone!

Jazlyn · 11-07-2007, 08:31 PM

it's like they are saying we are the enemy when all we have done is expose the truth and exposed the original kimkins as a fraud and potential health risk. News flash tippy. No one is after your job (no one is stupid enough to take it.) No one is after your money. I doubt there is much coming in at this point.

Helping people...yeah..good one.

Changing everything to cover up the real plan by stealing from atkins is just sad.

Don't people realize that we have lives and are only trying to save people from wasting their money and their health? It's called compassion Tippy. Look it up in the dictionary when you are thumbing through try to learn how to spell.

I don't know what diet they are touting this week but it's not kimkins.

mrsmenopausal · 11-07-2007, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cgkane

Hello my friends!

After being away from the site for a little while, I have caught up reading (took two days

).

I am so excited The Morning Show will feature Scamkins Monday

I watch it every morning before I go to work. Good balance of fluff and good, solid discussions.

And, even though I'm a little late for the party...

I'm Amy.

hello, Amy

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJR

From...KK

Re:The Mike and Juliet TV Show x Day, x Hours ago tippy, people that have been to their doctors, well these doctors could sign something saying these people are in better health in their opinion and by their results. lets face it, if you have to defend, then use equal amunition if you know what i mean. alot of doctor's have been pleased with the results coming from this site- people are eating less cholesteral. flour and sugar is gone, we get support from others members in a desease that does or can lead to isolation and one person helping annother is so stronger than going anywhere and talking to a person that was hired because they had the right stats,- skinny. if i want to be skinny, then i will take advice from one that has done this sucessfully and understands all the weakness than some accusing eye of a skinny person that just doesnt get it but has the credentials. its really too bad you dont have enough time to arm yourself for this thing. can they rescedule?

Re:The Mike and Juliet TV Show x Day, x Hours ago I hope it is a fair interview. I worry that you will be ambushed. All of the publicity has been so negative. I really hope that you can change it, for all of us. And, I hope we are not overwhelmed with our opposition, again. So, be strong gals. Stay true to yourself and your beliefs! We are informed individuals, and this is our personal choice.

They're Getting Nervous?

How can they believe this is going to go well for them? There's documented proof the founder of the program encouraged and advised very very low calories. People are NOT telling their doctors the calories they are consuming. But, hey, do what you need to do. I can't wait for Monday.

mrsmenopausal · 11-07-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by anipomoni

Wonder if the lawyer will go?

I also think Fox should be sent all the info on Tippy. How she really lost weight; organizing the fundraiser for no foster kids; how she became an admin AFTER all the controversy; etc.

I agree. But, I'll bet it's already been taken care of.

mrsmenopausal · 11-07-2007, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsmenopausal

hello, Amy

How can they believe this is going to go well for them? There's documented proof the founder of the program encouraged and advised very very low calories. People are NOT telling their doctors the calories they are consuming. But, hey, do what you need to do. I can't wait for Monday.

Sorry for replying to my own post but I just wanted to add that if anyone shows up with a note from their doctor saying the plan is safe that I hope the show checks with the docs to be sure they disclosed the calorie and fat intake honestly because I can't imagine any doctor being grateful that they put their name to something that wasn't fully disclosed to them and then have their "support" of the Kimkins scam broadcast on TV. Can you imagine? Wouldn't it be great if the show contacted the doctors and asked them about it, live on the show?
Man, I REALLY want to see this show. LOL

anipomoni · 11-07-2007, 09:05 PM

If I were Tippy, I'd probably take the free trip too. Especially since I doubt they will really "ambush" her. These shows rarely have enough time to get that deep into the topics, they are usually pretty superficial.
And the hosts are pretty tactful and I could see them accepting an answer of, "well we are taking the site in a whole new direction with the new managment," with every question about the controversy. And then a sales pitch for the "new" site. Especially with a time crunch.

Don't get me wrong, I still think it is a good thing...but not as good as the KTLA news story.

mrsmenopausal · 11-07-2007, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by anipomoni

If I were Tippy, I'd probably take the free trip too. Especially since I doubt they will really "ambush" her. These shows rarely have enough time to get that deep into the topics, they are usually pretty superficial.
And the hosts are pretty tactful and I could see them accepting an answer of, "well we are taking the site in a whole new direction with the new managment," with every question about the controversy. And then a sales pitch for the "new" site. Especially with a time crunch.

Don't get me wrong, I still think it is a good thing...but not as good as the KTLA news story.

I doubt with all the information I'm sure they're getting, the class action lawsuit, the health issues, etc that it'll be that rosy an experience for TT and SL. Even if they don't have the time, there's always more airtime for further investigation for a good news story and this is definitely one. JMO

Magicsmom · 11-07-2007, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by anipomoni

If I were Tippy, I'd probably take the free trip too. Especially since I doubt they will really "ambush" her. These shows rarely have enough time to get that deep into the topics, they are usually pretty superficial.
And the hosts are pretty tactful and I could see them accepting an answer of, "well we are taking the site in a whole new direction with the new managment," with every question about the controversy. And then a sales pitch for the "new" site. Especially with a time crunch.

Don't get me wrong, I still think it is a good thing...but not as good as the KTLA news story.

I agree. I said earlier in this thread that it was going to be a softball interview, and I still believe that. The real significance of this is that it will get this story exposed on a national level and will make other members of the media take notice. The kind we want to see cover this are people like Nancy Grace, Geraldo, those who don't play nice and get along well with others, those who will call a spade a spade and a crook a crook. THAT is what this coverage will accomplish - to get it noticed by those we want to notice it.

Sheridan · 11-07-2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TerryC

I don't see how you can separate the diet out from the controversy - the diet is tied to the controversy!!! In fact what they are doing now isn't Kimkins, its' basically a modified Atkins plan that is "NOT KIMKINS" because as we all know if you tweak it "IT'S NOT KIMKINS"

Don'tcha bet she rues the day she first started saying that?

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Originally Posted by Cutie

we're covered...no worries there.

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Originally Posted by Cutie

rest assured, the show has lots of info!

how fun...our FIRST national show about it all...

FIRST has such a very nice ring to it!

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Originally Posted by Locarb4me

I call that: "Patting Myself On The Back for Doing An End Run Around The KimkinsHaters Because I'm So Flippin' Clever" Sheeesh, Tippy. I'm actually looking forward to seein' you make a complete fool of yourself on that show.

You and many others!

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Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Wow, Fab Avi! You look great Julie!

I am not sure if she did or not...but I have a feeling we haven't heard the last from her or rather Kimmer hasn't.

You're a doll, Julie!

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Originally Posted by Cutie

congrats, you've won this autographed edition of "Kimmerese: Much Ado About Nothing"!

That was the title of her e-book, right?

HoneyBee2 · 11-07-2007, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jayed

"one that has done this sucessfully (sic)" For real? This poster isn't going to find that person at kimkins. She needs to find a new site if she's looking for someone who has "done this successfully."

My thoughts exactly!!
Where are they getting their definition and spelling of -done the diet "successfully"?
Show me a person who has lost a significant amount of weight on Kimkins, 10% of their body weight or greater, that doesn't have one of the following:

1- An inappropriate relationship with food in the form of fear of eating certain foods or adding calories into one's diet

And/OR

2- New Health risks or negative health side-effects

A healthy diet should not do either in my opinion. Much less be considered a success.
One of the things success should not be defined as is solely a number on a scale!

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Originally Posted by MJR

Yep
I read that post 3 times trying to figure out who she was referring to.
I think she may be talking about Kimmer.
I know, I know, tooooo much koolaid.

I did the same thing.

Who knows? But when a comment is that confusing, I have to believe that it really is not saying anything of much importance!

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Originally Posted by anipomoni

Wonder if the lawyer will go?

I also think Fox should be sent all the info on Tippy. How she really lost weight; organizing the fundraiser for no foster kids; how she became an admin AFTER all the controversy; etc.

I know that the person who made the initial contact to CJ, the producer of the show, gave him the things you have mentioned.

WildAngel6 · 11-07-2007, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by susique333

Kim, Im on AOL and found that too. Did you see where it says she became a member 3-13-04 and the page was UPDATED 3-12-04, the day before becoming a member? Odd isnt it? The link to Kimkins is still active, too. I checked and Im still banned....<sob>

You can use the "Report This" link on the upper right hand side of the profile to get the kimkins link removed from momsbabe88's profile.

Grizzy · 11-07-2007, 10:06 PM

Does anyone know if Cristin who was on the cover of WW has been told about this show? I sure would love to see her expose the truth about kk with trippytoes and her entourage there to answer the tough questions. Like who is Kimmer and why is she using fake pictures and what exactly is her criminal record.

Oh wait maybe Jerry Springer will pick up the scent.

CJane · 11-07-2007, 10:20 PM

Julie, I must say, you're stunning!

I'm still here, lurking, watching, waiting...

I can hardly wait until Monday!

serenity_aus · 11-08-2007, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJR

From...KK

Re:The Mike and Juliet TV Show x Day, x Hours ago tippy, people that have been to their doctors, well these doctors could sign something saying these people are in better health in their opinion and by their results. lets face it, if you have to defend, then use equal amunition if you know what i mean. alot of doctor's have been pleased with the results coming from this site- people are eating less cholesteral. flour and sugar is gone, we get support from others members in a desease that does or can lead to isolation and one person helping annother is so stronger than going anywhere and talking to a person that was hired because they had the right stats,- skinny. if i want to be skinny, then i will take advice from one that has done this sucessfully and understands all the weakness than some accusing eye of a skinny person that just doesnt get it but has the credentials. its really too bad you dont have enough time to arm yourself for this thing. can they rescedule?

Re:The Mike and Juliet TV Show x Day, x Hours ago I hope it is a fair interview. I worry that you will be ambushed. All of the publicity has been so negative. I really hope that you can change it, for all of us. And, I hope we are not overwhelmed with our opposition, again. So, be strong gals. Stay true to yourself and your beliefs! We are informed individuals, and this is our personal choice.

They're Getting Nervous?

What the frig don't they get? I'ts not about the diet persay, it's about the fraudulent PROMOTION of that diet. It's about Heidi/Kimmer saying she's 118 and been that for 5 years. It's about the russian brides. It's about the banning of lifetime members. It's called a scam, look it up!!

Kisal · 11-08-2007, 12:27 AM

Here's an interesting little tidbit I picked up while reading the L.A. Times just now. The article had nothing to do with Kimmer, but I thought it was interesting, nonetheless:

"Punitive damages in California are designed to punish wrongdoers, and are generally considered to be capped at about 10 times actual damages."

Violet Skye · 11-08-2007, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanessa

Remember when Kimmer said about the red dress pic that somebody called her a MILF?

Manipulator I'd Like to Flee? Monster I'd Like to Flagellate? I dunno.....

Madam De Leon · 11-08-2007, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJR

From...KK

Re:The Mike and Juliet TV Show x Day, x Hours ago tippy, people that have been to their doctors, well these doctors could sign something saying these people are in better health in their opinion and by their results. lets face it, if you have to defend, then use equal amunition if you know what i mean. alot of doctor's have been pleased with the results coming from this site- people are eating less cholesteral. flour and sugar is gone, we get support from others members in a desease that does or can lead to isolation and one person helping annother is so stronger than going anywhere and talking to a person that was hired because they had the right stats,- skinny. if i want to be skinny, then i will take advice from one that has done this sucessfully and understands all the weakness than some accusing eye of a skinny person that just doesnt get it but has the credentials. its really too bad you dont have enough time to arm yourself for this thing. can they rescedule?

Re:The Mike and Juliet TV Show x Day, x Hours ago I hope it is a fair interview. I worry that you will be ambushed. All of the publicity has been so negative. I really hope that you can change it, for all of us. And, I hope we are not overwhelmed with our opposition, again. So, be strong gals. Stay true to yourself and your beliefs! We are informed individuals, and this is our personal choice.

They're Getting Nervous?

Why exactly should they need to "arm themselves" for this show? I mean if the diet itself is so safe, then it should stand as is (with calorie counts duly noted on each line of the diet guidelines, and calorie totals for each version of the diet), and the show producers themselves should be able to bring on an uninvolved doctor to review the diet on the spot, and proclaim it the healthiest way he's ever seen to lose weight.

Not gonna happen.

Even if they manage to do that (yeah right

), they're going to have a tough time defending the fraud that is a morbidly obese Heidikims claiming to have kept her weight down to 118 for the last several years, the banning of people who paid for lifetime memberships, and the e-page, I mean sorry excuse for an e-book.

Then we get into the legalities of the Atkins name copyright infringement. Oh and then there's the thing of selling Atkins 72 and Stillmans as Kimkins, and selling Atkins as a "cycling" option.

How in the world do they think they'll be able to defend this?!

Simple answer short: They can't.

Tooter · 11-08-2007, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Violet Skye

Manipulator I'd Like to Flee? Monster I'd Like to Flagellate? I dunno.....

MJR · 11-08-2007, 05:25 AM

Re:? for Dr. Mark Day, 1 Hours ago The BASIC health diet that I recommend my patients, young and old, is as follows.

Proteins should make up around 45 percent of each meal,
Fats about 10 percent
Complex carbs should make up the rest.

Stay away from the simple carbs/sugars as much as possible.

Eat small and often - around every three hours....if you can get proteins w each meal that is great

Do not eat until stuffed, just comfortable.

For kids- milk, eggs, cheese, butter, etc are all great
Do not let them fill up on liquids (juice, gatorade etc.) in place of food.
Dont make them "clean their plate" but don't let them eat before 3 hours is up...the healthy food becomes much more appetizing when you are really hungry.

Normal diet and activity are usually all a child needs.

Hope this helps.

Dr. Mark

OK - Correct me if I'm wrong.... but, does this sound like Kimkins to you guys? (45% protein & 45% CARBS & 10% fats) I think Dr. Mark is playing a little game of CYA right here. Maybe he is a little nervous about his investigation? Hope Heidi didn't see this post, as I'd guess "Dr. Mark" might have the same fate as the Fitness Guru if he keeps this up. At least he doesn't mention keeping calories above 1200. I'm just saying.

11-07-2007, 09:05 PM	#427
anipomoni Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Orlando and Philly Posts: 577 Gallery: anipomoni Stats: 315+/273.5/175 WOE: atkins	If I were Tippy, I'd probably take the free trip too. Especially since I doubt they will really "ambush" her. These shows rarely have enough time to get that deep into the topics, they are usually pretty superficial. And the hosts are pretty tactful and I could see them accepting an answer of, "well we are taking the site in a whole new direction with the new managment," with every question about the controversy. And then a sales pitch for the "new" site. Especially with a time crunch. Don't get me wrong, I still think it is a good thing...but not as good as the KTLA news story. __________________ -EVE- Last edited by anipomoni : 11-07-2007 at 09:06 PM.

11-08-2007, 05:25 AM	#440
MJR Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 270 Gallery: MJR WOE: Atkins	Re:? for Dr. Mark Day, 1 Hours ago The BASIC health diet that I recommend my patients, young and old, is as follows. Proteins should make up around 45 percent of each meal, Fats about 10 percent Complex carbs should make up the rest. Stay away from the simple carbs/sugars as much as possible. Eat small and often - around every three hours....if you can get proteins w each meal that is great Do not eat until stuffed, just comfortable. For kids- milk, eggs, cheese, butter, etc are all great Do not let them fill up on liquids (juice, gatorade etc.) in place of food. Dont make them "clean their plate" but don't let them eat before 3 hours is up...the healthy food becomes much more appetizing when you are really hungry. Normal diet and activity are usually all a child needs. Hope this helps. Dr. Mark OK - Correct me if I'm wrong.... but, does this sound like Kimkins to you guys? (45% protein & 45% CARBS & 10% fats) I think Dr. Mark is playing a little game of CYA right here. Maybe he is a little nervous about his investigation? Hope Heidi didn't see this post, as I'd guess "Dr. Mark" might have the same fate as the Fitness Guru if he keeps this up. At least he doesn't mention keeping calories above 1200. I'm just saying. __________________ --MJR-- Mjr's Blog Kimkins Shut Kimmer Up!! - Join the Lawsuit

11-07-2007, 08:31 PM	#423
Jazlyn MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,074 Gallery: Jazlyn Stats: 290/243/160	it's like they are saying we are the enemy when all we have done is expose the truth and exposed the original kimkins as a fraud and potential health risk. News flash tippy. No one is after your job (no one is stupid enough to take it.) No one is after your money. I doubt there is much coming in at this point. Helping people...yeah..good one. Changing everything to cover up the real plan by stealing from atkins is just sad. Don't people realize that we have lives and are only trying to save people from wasting their money and their health? It's called compassion Tippy. Look it up in the dictionary when you are thumbing through try to learn how to spell. I don't know what diet they are touting this week but it's not kimkins.

11-07-2007, 10:06 PM	#433
Grizzy MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tazcat Travelling Relocation Tour 2008 Roadie Posts: 1,808 Gallery: Grizzy Stats: 200/150/130 WOE: Atkins Start Date: Jan 2005	Does anyone know if Cristin who was on the cover of WW has been told about this show? I sure would love to see her expose the truth about kk with trippytoes and her entourage there to answer the tough questions. Like who is Kimmer and why is she using fake pictures and what exactly is her criminal record. Oh wait maybe Jerry Springer will pick up the scent.

11-07-2007, 10:20 PM	#434
CJane Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 454 Gallery: CJane Stats: 190/165/125 WOE: Atkins-ish/PP-ish/No Grains EVAH!	Julie, I must say, you're stunning! I'm still here, lurking, watching, waiting... I can hardly wait until Monday!

11-08-2007, 12:27 AM	#436
Kisal Senior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 864 Gallery: Kisal Stats: 350/240.0/160 WOE: Atkins '72 Start Date: October 15, 2004/Atkins '72 on 6/31/08	Here's an interesting little tidbit I picked up while reading the L.A. Times just now. The article had nothing to do with Kimmer, but I thought it was interesting, nonetheless: "Punitive damages in California are designed to punish wrongdoers, and are generally considered to be capped at about 10 times actual damages."