Why the fascination with Kimmer? #9

[Tanner]

Originally Posted by kaligurl

This is my first post on this site in a long time. For the record I no longer follow the Kimkins diet. For you newbies or members who just recently joined, you may not have seen it posted that 500 calories is the norm, but it WAS posted. In fact, if members claimed to be stalling or having slower weight loss, the first reponse was
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As with anything in our lives, there is always room for improvements. Postive changes are being made daily. And we will continue to make positive changes.

For those who had bad experiences or do not want to remain here, we understand.

For those who had good experiences and do wish to remain here we are happy you did.

The oddest thing seems to be trying to make positive changes and improvements and then having people fight us for it. They say "Well that's not Kimkins then." . Kimkins will still be Kimkins, even if it is a new and improved version. No diet is perfect for everyone and not everyone will do Kimkins the same way. DO use common sense and DO listen to your body. It's perfectly fine to EAT and to even snack when hungry IF you follow the food guidelines. You will still lose weight. Interestingly I have noticed people up the calories and veggies and many don't even slow down in weight loss at all. And better still is I have noticed if someone is stalling if they RAISE the calories for a week or so and maintain, many times lowering them again slightly gets things moving again.


So what do you guys think?? The last one was posted by TT

I think that Kimmers does not roll that way? .. we will see...

Here's the but :

Well -- she did promised the LC World didn't she?!
She was going to clean up KimkiMs / Heidi's site!
(Slip Sliding Away!)

Man talk about a "B-slap in the face" for Heidi Diaz..

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

But I do feel comments regarding FOX in general or the idea that they (meaning producers of the show) were the ones who altered the audience reactions, which they didn't, that some of us heard while listening to the youtube videos, would be something that is a concern to me at least based on feedback I read from the producer.

Where was this? I didn't see it. What did the producer say?

Originally Posted by jayed

I don't understand why the FTC needs more people attached to the suit. I looked at some previous cases they have investigated in the past few years and many of them were much smaller scams than this one.

I don't know how the FTC works but I've worked in enforcement at the state level and we didn't wait for X number of people to complain about fraud before we started our investigation. That will really piss me off if they're not willing to enforce their own statutes unless a certain threshold is met. Fraud is fraud if it's done to one person or one thousand.

You're absolutely right!

Originally Posted by Katinsac

I just love this thread...every time we "suggest" or "comment" on something over THERE, they change things, lol. I now see that Kimmer has added a "side view" of her current pic to match her before so we can see the booty being smaller!! Good Job Kimmer....nice to see you paying attention to us!!

Yeah, and they changed SL's weight to start and current. LOL!!

[Katinsac]

I have noticed if someone is stalling if they RAISE the calories for a week or so and maintain, many times lowering them again slightly gets things moving again.

Isn't this the "refeeds" plan?

[Magicsmom]

Just going back and looking at archives here at LCF. Check this out [bolding mine]

Originally Posted by Kimmer

Dottie is always so smart!

But, let's analyze how the above ladies lost:

Winslow ate tuna & mayo, which is VERY LOW CARBS.
Snowrose used Fat Fast, which is VERY LOW CARBS (and only 1000 calories).
Melody I don't recall how she lost, except that she looks great!

Bottom line is that the "big losers" all lost on VERY LOW CARBS. My way wasn't any different. My 'net' carbs were probably less than 10 most days.

While I'm flattered at "Kimkins", it's not a new program. It's Atkins. Keep carbs very low, lose your appetite, be satisifed with less food ... or any food if you've totally lost your appetite!

Now look at this insightful post further down the thread:

Originally Posted by Zwisch

Cut your calories below starvation levels...

If that fails, go on a water fast...

If you feel hunger because your body isn't getting enough calories, it's because you're doing it wrong...

Sound advice indeed.

[Leashy]

Woofy is my new hero.

[WildAngel6]

The rise and fall of the Kimkins Diet (CalorieLab Calorie Counter News)

Kimkins Diet lawsuit filed, class action certification sought (CalorieLab Calorie Counter News)

Attorneys for the former Kimkins members have filed a writ of attachment on Ms. Diaz’s Corona, California, Citibank account and her PayPal account, and have been authorized to secure up to $1.6 million. The amount of Ms. Diaz’s assets is unknown, but the attorneys believe that 38,000 people joined, paying as much as $60 apiece.

The request for attachment was supported by affidavits from 29 individuals stating that they would not have purchased a Kimkins membership had they known that the “after” photo of Kimmer and her 198 pound weight loss claim were false.

In addition, chat and messaging transcripts between Ms. Diaz and Kimkins Web site administrators were submitted to the court by the attorneys, who characterized them as demonstrating that Ms. Diaz was maintaining a false identity and managing her assets with the intention of becoming “judgment proof” (financially immune to paying legal damages).

In the transcripts, Ms. Diaz is quoted as saying, “If you had a bad car accident — broken arm, concussion, but hit a poor person with no insurance, you could not get a lawyer. There is no ‘recovery.’ There is no money to receive. It’s the same with Kimkins. There is no $$$…. No lawyer would touch it,” and, “Unfortunately for this brilliant attorney, he is going to be disappointed to find that there is no pot of gold for recovery in the suit. Heidi collects the revenue, but does not keep it.”

Ms. Diaz is also quoted discussing tactics for dealing with critics of the diet, including “moles” in the Kimkins forum and blogger Jimmy Moore.

[WildAngel6]

Originally Posted by MomToEli

I'm no lawyer, but if a grown woman can successfully sue McDonald's for being scaled with hot coffee she herself held between her own legs while driving (and I do think their lids said "Caution, contents hot" before the suit, but maybe not), I can't see Kimmer's disclaimer holding water in light of all of the statements she herself made both publically and privately.

Just my opinion, for what that's worth ...

There certainly wasn't any warning on the Kimkins site that said "Caution, this diet may ruin your health" or even, at the very least, the courtesy of a warning about the Known side effects, that you get when you choose a prescription drug.

"Caution, this diet may - cause dizziness; chest pains; your hair to fall out; your heart to have palpitations; your metabolism to be destroyed; your bone mass to be depleted; disrupted or additional menstrual cycles; or eating disorders."

[WildAngel6]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

And who in their right mind would wear a green bracelet with that outfit? Puh-leeze!!

It actually looks more like one of those wrist bands that you get when you go to the fair or some other event along those lines, than it does a bracelet.

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by WildAngel6

It actually looks more like one of those wrist bands that you get when you go to the fair or some other event along those lines, than it does a bracelet.

I think they solved the mystery up the thread a bit. It appears to be one of those rubber bracelets people wear for a cause, in this case, wellness.

[WildAngel6]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

I think they solved the mystery up the thread a bit. It appears to be one of those rubber bracelets people wear for a cause, in this case, wellness.

LoL Thanks Terry, I saw that too... y'all get so far ahead it takes a gal a while to catch up with you.

Good job everyone!

It looks like I'm all caught up for now, and y'all have already headed off to bed, so I guess I'll call it a night too....

[WOOFY]

Is she wearing it for her mental illness? LOL

[stilldews]

My feeling is that Heidi could have lost enough since August when the PI photo was taken to look like the after photo from the side, but it would take a lot more than losing 23 pounds. Maybe by eating 500 calories a day and diet Coke fasting on the weekends, she could have lost 50-60 pounds, but with the stress of the pending lawsuit, I doubt if she has been able to do this. It's silly not to use real before photos when we all know what she really looked like before. It seems that Heidi is so used to lying and using fake photos that she is totally unwilling to even admit how much she really did weigh to begin with or how much she really weighs now. I wish the best for the others on her home page and pray that they stay healthy.

[lala]

smallers:

and heres the biggers:

HUMMMMM???? thats alot less booty for 23 lbs! me thinks NOT

[McLurkypants]

Originally Posted by WildAngel6

The rise and fall of the Kimkins Diet (CalorieLab Calorie Counter News)

Kimkins Diet lawsuit filed, class action certification sought (CalorieLab Calorie Counter News)

Attorneys for the former Kimkins members have filed a writ of attachment on Ms. Diaz’s Corona, California, Citibank account and her PayPal account, and have been authorized to secure up to $1.6 million. The amount of Ms. Diaz’s assets is unknown, but the attorneys believe that 38,000 people joined, paying as much as $60 apiece.

I think THAT explains the sudden refunds. Further light is shed by the most recent entries on the docket for this case. It's a race for her money, and she's trying to disburse it and move it around however she can.

As for effect of the refunds on the lawsuit, fear not. The $60 membership fee refunds will just be subtracted from the rest of what the Plaintiffs recover for the fraud and other causes of action which give rise to damages WAY beyond the membership fees. Truly a case of DAY LATE, DOLLAR SHORT for Hidey on this move.

[Mavis]

Originally Posted by Cutie

OMG! i can't believe she expects ANYONE to believe 23lbs. can knock off that much bootay!

I dunno.....23 pounds is a pretty significant chunk of fat.

If you don't believe me go put 23 pounds of butter in a shopping cart at the grocery store. It is a lot of fat.

Edited to add: Before anyone jumps on me for saying this, please note that I am NOT defending the woman or what she did.
I'm just saying that losing 23 pounds is a significant chunk of fat and I say this from my own experience from back in 1997 when I lost 26 pounds in a month doing Deal A Meal....and I was close to 300 pounds when I started that diet.
After that weight loss even my own sister noticed that I looked quite lot slimmer from the waist down (where I tend to store a LOT of my excess weight)

[Diana]

Originally Posted by stilldews

My feeling is that Heidi could have lost enough since August when the PI photo was taken to look like the after photo from the side, but it would take a lot more than losing 23 pounds. Maybe by eating 500 calories a day and diet Coke fasting on the weekends, she could have lost 50-60 pounds, but with the stress of the pending lawsuit, I doubt if she has been able to do this. It's silly not to use real before photos when we all know what she really looked like before. It seems that Heidi is so used to lying and using fake photos that she is totally unwilling to even admit how much she really did weigh to begin with or how much she really weighs now. I wish the best for the others on her home page and pray that they stay healthy.

She knew with court coming up, she had to do something, lose as much as she could then claim victom and wallo in all that self pitty. Soon people (kimkinners) forget all about the lies from the past and fall for the new lies...

[OhYeahBabe]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

she has so many lies they would not have a server big enough to hold that blog!!

You're on to something! That explains why they keep having to delete posts at the Kimpound! I thought they were heiding their lies, but in reality they are just making room for more!

[Tooter]

Winslow, Flowerpower, Dottie, JustKim...WAS Kimmer on the Site (before this one) with us? I don't remember her there. I'm trying to think back. Didn't she join, this one, in about 2000?

Just another thought, remember the Trolls we had on the Old site? I wonder...

[Cutie]

Originally Posted by Tooter

Winslow, Flowerpower, Dottie, JustKim...WAS Kimmer on the Site (before this one) with us? I don't remember her there. I'm trying to think back. Didn't she join, this one, in about 2000?

Just another thought, remember the Trolls we had on the Old site? I wonder...

tooter, she did make reference to the board as it was before tom bought it...i don't remember specifics though...hopefully dottie, etc. will remember. anyway, i wanted to post something "on topic" so i could also tell you how cutie patootie your new grandbaby is!

[MissMerize]

Yeah, this definitely looks photoshopped.....

[MissMerize]

Actually, I got kimmer going on the meat and martini diet. Look how much she lost in just a few days!

[Dottie]

Originally Posted by Tooter

Winslow, Flowerpower, Dottie, JustKim...WAS Kimmer on the Site (before this one) with us? I don't remember her there. I'm trying to think back. Didn't she join, this one, in about 2000?

Just another thought, remember the Trolls we had on the Old site? I wonder...

I really don't have any recollection of her before around late 2002, early 2003 when she mentioned that she was drinking a lot of coffee with several packets of splenda and a load of cream. Before that, I do not remember her at all.

I wonder if Evil Terry ever found his corned beef hash recipe lol

[**Lola**]

Originally Posted by lala

smallers:

and heres the biggers:

HUMMMMM???? thats alot less booty for 23 lbs! me thinks NOT

One thing about that "new" picture is the style of her wig. It looks a lot more like her old style wig (and certainly not any kind of hairstyle that is currently in fashion) than her surveillance picture wigs look like.

The wigs on the SP's look much more modern.

Maybe that is a clue about how old her "new" picture really is.

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by Cutie

how interesting...becky and other lawsuit reps are getting unsolicited refunds from kimkins showing up in their paypal accounts tonight...hmmm.

Isn't she thoughtful. lol

Originally Posted by cgkane

Ooo! I want to be a Charter Member! Do I get a Lifetime membership and all the sugar cookies I can eat?

Oh yes and you don't even have to wash the dish I serve them on.