Why the fascination with Kimmer? #8

[Katinsac]

Honey, I still love ya, and yes...I know you have been careful and I also know you like the facts. We do appreciate the update on what is happening. Hope we are OK now.

As far as the IRS is concerned...I don't know about property but I suppose they take whatever they want. I do know if they want your money they go right into your account and take it all and don't even worry about if you have rent or food money. I'm hoping the figures in the court papers are figures they got by viewing her accounts and not just and "estimate" of what she may or may not still have. However, I'd assume even if they were, that plus the lawyer's fees which were left "open" to the amount is what they would be asking for her to pay. All that stuff and our questions would have to be left to the legal eagles here, like McLurkyPants who seems to be very knowledgeable and we thank you.

[JustKim]

I'm anxious to see what develops today after reading through all of the documents

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by jayed

One semester of law school does not a lawyer make. "mistaken and confused," oh I love that defense!

I was wondering what her under-graduate degree was in...... You can't go to law school without 4 years under your belt. I doubt very much she even had one.

[Katinsac]

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

I was wondering what her under-graduate degree was in...... You can't go to law school without 4 years under your belt. I doubt very much she even had one.

She probably only signed up to get some books and learn how to protect herself from her scams!

[Katinsac]

Cheryl...ment to tell you your Husband is a very handsome and distinguished gentleman. You guys make a nice looking couple. Sorry for the OT.

[Madam De Leon]

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

I was wondering what her under-graduate degree was in...... You can't go to law school without 4 years under your belt. I doubt very much she even had one.

That very thought just occurred to me too - I wonder if she somehow managed to con her way into law school without any kind of undergrad degree, and if perhaps that's why she didn't last long. Not just because she couldn't hack all the work involved, but because they eventually caught up with the con and kicked her out - There have even been college profs and practicing surgeons who have managed to lie, con, scam, and bluff their way into such jobs, but as soon as they're found out, they're outa there! (Usually with some stiff fines, and jail time too)

I have no idea if this was the case in her "law school" adventure or not, it was just an idea that occurred to me of what might have happened.

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

Honey, I still love ya, and yes...I know you have been careful and I also know you like the facts. We do appreciate the update on what is happening. Hope we are OK now.
[......]

Kit Kat we are good! And I am sorry if I misunderstood your points in your comments as well. I do like the facts and have always been the type to back things up with examples, quotes, links, articles..etc.. so I have had to sit on my hands a few times here lately, but there may be times I don't see the harm in things that others do see and I can appreciate that too.
You know I luvre you too.

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by Madam De Leon

That very thought just occurred to me too - I wonder if she somehow managed to con her way into law school without any kind of undergrad degree, and if perhaps that's why she didn't last long. Not just because she couldn't hack all the work involved, but because they eventually caught up with the con and kicked her out - There have even been college profs and practicing surgeons who have managed to lie, con, scam, and bluff their way into such jobs, but as soon as they're found out, they're outa there! (Usually with some stiff fines, and jail time too)

I have no idea if this was the case in her "law school" adventure or not, it was just an idea that occurred to me of what might have happened.

You never know with Heidi. I would love to read a list of all her various cons and scams she has pulled off over the years. Then to also know how she did them. I think we have only seen the tip of the iceberg of the lies and deception she has been a part of over the years.

BTW- Speaking of school and cons...Does anyone know how Dr. Mark has the "Doctor" title, when the only school he referenced for his education lists a masters as the highest degree, not a doctorate?

[mirmir3]

Originally Posted by susique333

Stop the presses...I found a warm caramel-tini ! Carb free of course

That looks divine!

Another divine drink (although certainly not low carb) is the Ying-Yang Godiva martini at The Melting Pot -- White choc. godiva liqueur, vanilla Stolli, and vanilla ice cream blended together and topped with shaved chocolate....
My birthday treat!

[jayed]

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

I was wondering what her under-graduate degree was in...... You can't go to law school without 4 years under your belt. I doubt very much she even had one.

I've wondered that myself. Could her student loan debt actually be for a semester of college rather than law school? I guess it's possible that she did go to law school. She throws some legalese around but doesn't really know what she's talking about. Sounds like first year to me.

[marnaewilson]

I remember someone posting a quote from Heidi saying that she had an undergrad degree, but I can't remember what it was in. However, she could have been lying. I do suspect, though, that she actually had to have the undergrad transcripts to apply to law school.

[jayed]

Originally Posted by marnaewilson

I remember someone posting a quote from Heidi saying that she had an undergrad degree, but I can't remember what it was in. However, she could have been lying. I do suspect, though, that she actually had to have the undergrad transcripts to apply to law school.

Yes, you do have to submit undergrad transcripts with your application. At most schools, if you do not submit an official transcript (with school seal) at the time of your application, you're required to submit it once you start.

I know there have been stories of people conning their way into jobs by claiming education that they didn't have but I would think it would be more difficult to con your way into a professional school. I guess it's possible though.

[susique333]

These we taken from the Internet legal research group. Im assuming this is a years worth of tuition?

Law School Rankings by Tuition

89 U. of California (Hastings) CA $33,415
90 U. of California-Davis CA $36,603
91 U. of California-Berkeley CA $37,721
92 U. of California-Los Angeles CA $36,381
122 Western State University CA $27,220
123 Golden Gate University CA $31,140
132 Thomas Jefferson CA $30,250
133 St. Louis University MO $30,040
134 U. of Denver CO $30,360
135 Illinois Inst. of Tech. (Kent) IL $31,434
136 DePaul University IL $30,670
137 Whittier Law School CA $30,750
138 Chapman University CA $32,834
139 Southwestern Univ. CA $31,700
140 Loyola U. Chicago IL $32,030
141 Case Western Reserve U. OH $33,384
142 California Western CA $32,380
143 U. of San Francisco CA $32,190
144 U. of the Pacific (McGeorge) CA $32,905

[Chelveston]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

You never know with Heidi. I would love to read a list of all her various cons and scams she has pulled off over the years. Then to also know how she did them. I think we have only seen the tip of the iceberg of the lies and deception she has been a part of over the years.

Maybe she'll have time to write a book in prison.

BTW- Speaking of school and cons...Does anyone know how Dr. Mark has the "Doctor" title, when the only school he referenced for his education lists a masters as the highest degree, not a doctorate?

That would be "doctor of oriental medicine" that he got from his night school that's no longer accredited.


From Quackwatch
Be Wary of Acupuncture, Qigong, and "Chinese Medicine"

The credentials used by acupuncturists include C.A. (certified acupuncturist), Lic. Ac. (licensed acupuncturist), M.A. (master acupuncturist), Dip. Ac. (diplomate of acupuncture), and O.M.D. (doctor of Oriental medicine). Some of these have legal significance, but they do not signify that the holder is competent to make adequate diagnoses or render appropriate treatment.

[JustKim]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

BTW- Speaking of school and cons...Does anyone know how Dr. Mark has the "Doctor" title, when the only school he referenced for his education lists a masters as the highest degree, not a doctorate?

he has a "doctor of chinese medicine" "degree" but he did a major no-no when he referred to himself as a primary care "physician" as that oversteps his scope of practice as a licensed acupuncturist....not that I "pursued" this or anything

[Jazlyn]

RE the newsletter. I thought not having to exercize was a huge selling point of the kimkins plan.

[Madam De Leon]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Speaking of school and cons...Does anyone know how Dr. Mark has the "Doctor" title, when the only school he referenced for his education lists a masters as the highest degree, not a doctorate?

Originally Posted by JustKim

he has a "doctor of chinese medicine" "degree" but he did a major no-no when he referred to himself as a primary care "physician" as that oversteps his scope of practice as a licensed acupuncturist....not that I "pursued" this or anything

I wondered about this myself.

I was thinking of how we refer to optometrists and chiropractors as doctors, even though they don't have doctorate degrees... or do they? The information I was able to find online about what's required to become either of those wasn't too clear on the matter, just that a DC is a doctor of chiropractic, and a OD is a optometric doctor.

So perhaps he's just using the generic term "doctor" even though he doesn't have a doctorate?

Even if that's the case, referring to himself as a primary care physician is really OTT - I can just see my insurance company allowing me to use someone with only a master's (from a school that is no longer accredited, no less!) as my "primary care physician" They'd laugh themselves silly while stamping a big rejected on all the bills!

[JustKim]

yes calling himself a physician has turned into a big no no

[BobbiOh]

Originally Posted by jayed

I know there have been stories of people conning their way into jobs by claiming education that they didn't have but I would think it would be more difficult to con your way into a professional school. I guess it's possible though.

My uncle did not graduate from high school and was in his third year of college before the school discovered it. He went and got his GED, finished college and is now a professor.

The caveat is: 1) This was before the electronic age and 2) this was an undergrad situation, not someone going to law school or medical school.

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

Cheryl...ment to tell you your Husband is a very handsome and distinguished gentleman. You guys make a nice looking couple. Sorry for the OT.

Oh are you sweet! I just read your comment to him and he blushed

Originally Posted by Madam De Leon

That very thought just occurred to me too - I wonder if she somehow managed to con her way into law school without any kind of undergrad degree, and if perhaps that's why she didn't last long. Not just because she couldn't hack all the work involved, but because they eventually caught up with the con and kicked her out - There have even been college profs and practicing surgeons who have managed to lie, con, scam, and bluff their way into such jobs, but as soon as they're found out, they're outa there! (Usually with some stiff fines, and jail time too)

I have no idea if this was the case in her "law school" adventure or not, it was just an idea that occurred to me of what might have happened.

I just asked my husband about that and he said some colleges to have "accelerated programs" that cut out the mickey mouse classes - so you can get your undergraduate degree faster and then you can enter law school. You'd still get an undergraduate degree though prior to law school.

[ixtapacheryl]

OTopic - sorry!

Just wanted to give you all an update on the husband's ultrasound.

He does have an AAA (abdominal aorta aneurysm) - but it's small 4cm x 4cm. They want another scan in 6 months. I find it a blessing that he knows about it because so many people aren't even aware they have one and die needlessly. I guess they don't contemplate surgery until it reaches 5.5cm or larger.

Thank you all for your PM's and prayers. He's very optimistic.

[Katinsac]

Thought and prayers to you and your husband. I'm glad he is optimistic.

[Barbara B]

Originally Posted by mirmir3

That looks divine!

Another divine drink (although certainly not low carb) is the Ying-Yang Godiva martini at The Melting Pot -- White choc. godiva liqueur, vanilla Stolli, and vanilla ice cream blended together and topped with shaved chocolate....
My birthday treat!

Many years ago, before I was on lowcarb, a favorite restaurant of ours used to make a brandy alexander, not with cream, but with vanilla ice-cream. It was soooo good. Of course, that was 15 yrs ago. Not on my list anymore.

[JustKim]

hmmm still no FG since 10/22?

[htxfroggy]

Maybe she'll have time to write a book in prison.

Hopefully it would be longer than the e-book.