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Old 10-24-2007, 12:49 AM   #1891
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I have to believe at some point she must have lost alot of weight, then perhaps gained it all back.

What do you all think?

I wonder that too. The whole thing is sad! Its not like it did not work.
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Old 10-24-2007, 02:43 AM   #1892
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That Kimmer cartoon! :wipes eyes:

Well, at least Heidi has a cartoon she could post in place of Randy's one she had to take off! Just be sure to include the link to the original site Heidi.

p.s. Who said the fires started near Corona? Geez, I hope it wasn't somebody trying to burn up the contents of their file cabinet before November 1st.
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:18 AM   #1893
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I have to believe at some point she must have lost alot of weight, then perhaps gained it all back.

What do you all think?

I guess/assume Heidi lost weight at one point, early on, in her life. I believe it's too hard for someone to fake knowledge of weight loss without having gone through it at one point in their lives. I believe she ruined her metabolism and ate herself back up to her present weight.

Whether it be Kimmer or anyone else, I think this tale is about the dangers that many of us have experienced in our lives -- how we cut calories, lose weight, then eat again at NORMAL levels and gain more weight than when we started -- i.e. yo-yo dieting. I believe more women have experienced this than are willing to admit.

In the future, I hope that this board focuses on sane, low-carb weight loss methods combined with exercise, and not run off at every little drastic plan that comes along. That's how people will lose weight. And that's how this board will help them the most.
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:49 AM   #1894
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I guess/assume Heidi lost weight at one point, early on, in her life. I believe it's too hard for someone to fake knowledge of weight loss without having gone through it at one point in their lives. I believe she ruined her metabolism and ate herself back up to her present weight.

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I honestly believe that Heidi's lowest weight WAS the lady in the blue sweater with big glasses with her son. Although in that picture she still looked heavy, she was fairly attractive, and should have owned up to the fact that she was a work in progress. Then she blew it big time with her expansive thinking and dreaming she was someone else. She entered a fantasy world in which I believe "she still sees herself as the lady in the red dress." Scarey
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Old 10-24-2007, 05:56 AM   #1896
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I honestly believe that Heidi's lowest weight WAS the lady in the blue sweater with big glasses with her son.
I think you're right. While no one but Diaz can know for sure what the real story is, it would not at all surprise me if she found the low carber forums while she was looking for a solution to her own weight and decided to exploit the folks she found there by perpetrating her scam.

Am I mistaken or did she initially not have a web site where she charged for access to her wonder diet? She was freely dispensing her "knowledge" on the forums, correct? If that is the case I think she got off on a power trip and it probably made her feel like one of the cool kids for the first time in her seemingly pathetic life. Then after gaining something of a following she decided to make a buck off of all the folks she could.

Or, ICBW, but at any rate, I'm very sorry for the people who got sucked into her vortex of fraud.
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Old 10-24-2007, 06:50 AM   #1897
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I made a delicious new drink last night - Smirnoff apple caramel martini. I used the apple vodka and put in the smallest splash of sf davinci caramel. YUM Now I feel like this----------->

Maybe I should create the meat and martini diet....
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Old 10-24-2007, 06:52 AM   #1898
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It has been mentioned a few times that she had WLS. Don't know if it worked or not. Maybe she lost some and then began to eat junk and stretched it out. We all know that LC works but you can't just got back to the sugar cookie ways or the weight comes back and then some.

I can't imagine she was posting so much on LCF if she had never dieted. In the beginning, I think she was giving genuine advice (not sure she was taking her own though). But as time went on, maybe she began to see the creation of a new scam. You can be anyone you want on the internet, it's easy. Everything was going fine till some trouble makers started asking questions. Too many lies and it snowballed out of control.

How would things be today if she had just fessed up? Admitted that she had gotten heavy again and then began losing weight alongside all the kk members? She might have lost some members but I also think a lot of us could have empathized with her weight battle. Knowing how to lose weight and actually doing it are two very different things. Look at Oprah. All the fitness trainers, chefs, personal assitants a person could ever want and she still struggles and yo-yos.

She had the chance to do the right thing and she blew it.
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I can't imagine she was posting so much on LCF if she had never dieted. In the beginning, I think she was giving genuine advice (not sure she was taking her own though). But as time went on, maybe she began to see the creation of a new scam. You can be anyone you want on the internet, it's easy. Everything was going fine till some trouble makers started asking questions. Too many lies and it snowballed out of control.
Yes, and it was particularly cold and calculating to exploit people who are desperate to lose weight. As someone of considerable girth herself, I think it's even more egregious as she has to know how many people already feel isolated and like failures in trying to lose weight. To encourage people to follow a plan that endangers their health while passing herself off a success story was not only fraud, but to me it borders on criminal. At a minimum she should be held accountable for what she's done.

Another thing that kind of creeped me out is the expression on her face when that reporter confronted her; kind of Mona Lisa-ish. I would have been mortified to be busted like that. And hasn't she continued to try to discredit people who have called her out, too? Someone like that, IMO, is a sociopath. Even if she had good intentions to begin with, after being made aware of the health problems folks have suffered, and even after being shown that she did not lose and keep off nearly 200 lbs like she claimed, she doesn't seem to feel the slightest bit of shame or guilty conscience about it from the things that have been posted purportedly by her or her minions.
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I made a delicious new drink last night - Smirnoff apple caramel martini. I used the apple vodka and put in the smallest splash of sf davinci caramel. YUM Now I feel like this----------->

Maybe I should create the meat and martini diet....
I'll pay $59.95 for it!



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Old 10-24-2007, 07:28 AM   #1901
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I honestly believe that Heidi's lowest weight WAS the lady in the blue sweater with big glasses with her son. Although in that picture she still looked heavy, she was fairly attractive, and should have owned up to the fact that she was a work in progress. Then she blew it big time with her expansive thinking and dreaming she was someone else. She entered a fantasy world in which I believe "she still sees herself as the lady in the red dress." Scarey
Interesting take on it. It could be that she had been bigger and had started losing weight on her plan and decided to make it more "appealing" by claiming more and more drastic weight loss... then she stopped losing about that point(blue sweater) and just liked the attention so she kept going.. possibly thinking her stall would break?
All speculation of course.
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Old 10-24-2007, 08:09 AM   #1903
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Old 10-24-2007, 08:55 AM   #1904
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Good one! I guess all the survivors of "Kimkins" can call themselves floaters!
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Yes, and it was particularly cold and calculating to exploit people who are desperate to lose weight.
ITA! Heidi-Kims is like one of those people who look at funeral times in the obituaries then breaks in and robs the family blind while they're at the service. Sociopaths have no ability to feel remorse. That's one of the hallmarks of being a sociopath. These kinds of creatures (they aren't "human" really) can scam others because they feel if someone lets themselves be scammed, then they deserve it. Twisted? Abso-freakin' lutely!

Many of you have pointed out that Heidi-Kims must have been addicted to all the attention she was getting when KK's really took off. ITA! For a while I believed her main purpose was to try and hurt people. That may be part of it. But, I'll bet Heidi is like many other over-weight people. She's probably had many, many years of feeling invisible. Getting so much attention had to be addictive!

She admitted to having an addictive personality on a special area of the forum at KK's, although she didn't go into details -SHOCK- And the mother of her grandchild told everyone that Heidi is an alcoholic, also an addiction.

It really must be killing her that it's all falling apart. And, hell no, I DON'T feel sorry for her!
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Send her one back.

Dear Hidey: You are a devilishly unseemly mauvais sujet and a depraved, dandruff-eating conglomerate of intellectual constipation. You are a conspicuously dissolute trollop and a repugnant, one dimensional depravity of genetics.You are a dreadfully demented degenerate and a maniacal, flesh-creeping wretched horror to all who encounter you.You are a devilishly uncouth dunce and a maladjusted, one dimensional excrement stain on a Sumo Wrestler's underpants.

Or something like that.

I'm soooo tempted to send her a copy of my original e-mail to her (the one that pleaded with her to come clean and prove who she was once and for all). I told her it would be so easy to put this entire mess behind her. I'm sure in hindsight she would have done things differently. What a fool!
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Many of you have pointed out that Heidi-Kims must have been addicted to all the attention she was getting when KK's really took off. ITA! For a while I believed her main purpose was to try and hurt people. That may be part of !
You could be correct, although too scary to think about. Maybe out of twisted jelousy of others being thinner than her she was providing a "diet" for them that would harm them, giving them "what she thought they deserved" for being more dedicated and having more willpower than her. Oh my goodness, if that is true that is truly evil. You just never know.
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Yes, and it was particularly cold and calculating to exploit people who are desperate to lose weight. As someone of considerable girth herself, I think it's even more egregious as she has to know how many people already feel isolated and like failures in trying to lose weight. {snipped}Another thing that kind of creeped me out is the expression on her face when that reporter confronted her; kind of Mona Lisa-ish. I would have been mortified to be busted like that.
Absolutely why I am PO'd. As a morbidly obese woman, of course I want to lose weight. I can't imagine going online and mocking people for not having enough willpower to be thin 'like me' ! Plus, like I stated in another post, her presence here on this site for so long lended a certain amount of credibility. It's mind boggling to think someone would spend literally years on LCF living such a big fat lie! This is the one place I feel comfortable with myself and admitting how much I weigh and how it feels to be overweight.

And I noticed that smile too. She is one sick puppy.
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I just saw the cutest commercial for something we can get Kimmer for Christmas:

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If they wanted to make it a proper Kimkins get-together, they should have found a nice resort in Russia.
Yeah then maybe they could get to meet the real After Kimmer!

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if that is where they are going the hike will do them in since they haven't been exercising as it is a very strenous hike unless you go by boat and take a shorter trail from the lake.
And wherever are they going to get the energy for doing all that! I imagine some of them are still struggling to get out of bed in the morning.
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I just saw the cutest commercial for something we can get Kimmer for Christmas:

I think she would slaughter them all! Poor little duckies!
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Absolutely why I am PO'd. As a morbidly obese woman, of course I want to lose weight. I can't imagine going online and mocking people for not having enough willpower to be thin 'like me' ! Plus, like I stated in another post, her presence here on this site for so long lended a certain amount of credibility. It's mind boggling to think someone would spend literally years on LCF living such a big fat lie! This is the one place I feel comfortable with myself and admitting how much I weigh and how it feels to be overweight.

And I noticed that smile too. She is one sick puppy.
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