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Old 10-21-2007, 04:30 PM   #1501
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there aren't any legal "gag orders" in place....

the silence is self-imposed for various reasons.
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Old 10-21-2007, 04:34 PM   #1502
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Long time lurker, but I can't say this flap has me surprised. I remember reading her stuff a year or so ago and thinking it was a bunch of bunk as well as being dangerous. One can only hope that civil suits are the least of her worries. I feel terrible for the folks that wanted to believe this fraud and I sincerely hope no one died from this starvation diet perpetrated by this..well, perp.

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Old 10-21-2007, 04:41 PM   #1503
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there aren't any legal "gag orders" in place....

the silence is self-imposed for various reasons.




OK, enough said, lip zipped!

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Old 10-21-2007, 05:06 PM   #1504
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there aren't any legal "gag orders" in place....

the silence is self-imposed for various reasons.

Reminds me of the war time saying "Loose lips sink ships". To those behind this scene, Good Job!!
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:15 PM   #1506
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In fact, there might not be many of us here who could do it and we are mentally competent. Methinks Kimmer "messed up" her disability when she
started Kimkins..her bad.
Has she messed up her SS disabiltiy? Does SSI even know about this?
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:19 PM   #1507
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Reminds me of the war time saying "Loose lips sink ships". To those behind this scene, Good Job!!
Yup!! The less Hidey knows at this point, the better. Why she may worrry herself so sick that she'll be down to a dozen sugar cookies a day from her usual two dozen. But I'd doubt it will worry her enough to give up the sprinkles.
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OK, I need to be told I'm wrong.

Since being banned from KK 2 weeks ago for "TOS Violation" (It was those darn Russian Brides that did me in) and refused a refund, I made it a point to voice my displeasure at nearly every link made available to me. (I did not join the "potential lawsuit" because "class actions" only pay the lawyers, the plaintiffs do not usually recoup their losses, and I am not ready to give up on my full refund.) Even with the tv exposee, only 11 members out of 40,000 signed up.
It looks to me right now that Kimmer is fighting back.
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sorry that is not true, I know people who are in on the lawsuit but their names are not mentioned, probably edited for space, or joined in after it was filed on monday.

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Old 10-21-2007, 05:27 PM   #1509
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there aren't any legal "gag orders" in place....

the silence is self-imposed for various reasons.

Do you think it would be wise for us to stop discussing it on this thread also? Just askin'.
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Also, if it gets accepted as a class action, I don't think they'll list ALL the names. I think it's usually the name(s) of the person(s) actually bringing suit that's a class action, so "on behalf of" the rest of the class.

I once got awarded $0.23 in a class action against AT&T. Didn't even know I was involved in a law suit LOL
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Also, if it gets accepted as a class action, I don't think they'll list ALL the names. I think it's usually the name(s) of the person(s) actually bringing suit that's a class action, so "on behalf of" the rest of the class.

I once got awarded $0.23 in a class action against AT&T. Didn't even know I was involved in a law suit LOL
Probably cost more for them to mail it to you, LOL!
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OK, I need to be told I'm wrong.

Since being banned from KK 2 weeks ago for "TOS Violation" (It was those darn Russian Brides that did me in) and refused a refund, I made it a point to voice my displeasure at nearly every link made available to me. (I did not join the "potential lawsuit" because "class actions" only pay the lawyers, the plaintiffs do not usually recoup their losses, and I am not ready to give up on my full refund.) Even with the tv exposee, only 11 members out of 40,000 signed up.
It looks to me right now that Kimmer is fighting back.
The main blogs are no longer posting: ie Slamboard, Kimkins Exposed, the Truth. The only reason I can see for this is they have been legally shut down. They have been so vocal, never missing a trick, and now nothing for over 2 weeks. Has to be a legal situation, doesn't it?
The most persistant posters from several LC boards have not been heard from for around the same amount of time. Why go from many posts daily to none or the odd hello comment, if not a gag order or something similar.
Any replies received from government venues have basically said they'll keep the info on file, but nothing will be done right now.
Please tell me I'm reading this wrong, that I'm missing something. Here I sit, wearing my cheerleading outfit, pompoms in hand waiting for my cue to celebrate. Anybody???
There are more plaintiffs than what is shown. The documents shown are only up to page 30....if you look at the screen shot below the system states there are only 30 of the 215 pages scanned into the system, so you are not seeing it all. As far as the plaintiffs getting a refund of their money paid for many that is not the reason for being in the lawsuit, myself included, however if you notice in the screen shot that punitive damages are also being asked for here as well.
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You can also access the blog from kimkins website and the strange thing is that the names of who submitted the articles are different. In the link you posted, the latest entries are by FatBuster and Kimmer. From the website it's admin and Noelle88. Wonder if Kimmer has a problem keeping her aliases apart.
That is what it sounds and looks like to me too Mariasol!
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Serving Heidi with the papers for the lawsuit would have let the cat out of the bag, though. I don't know how it is in California, but in Minnesota before the suit can be filed you have to include an affidavit that the defendant was properly served, means of service, when, etc. Regardless of how it is ino CA, I don't think you'd just be able to file suit without the defendant ( Heidi) knowing about it. It's a Due Process (5th/14th amendment to US constitution) right.

Constitutional rights play in with the blogs too---1st amendment (free speech/press). Heidi/KK would have had to go to court to prove defamation. That takes time (and proof! and refutation that the info published was known to be false ). I think the blogs' silence is self-imposed.
I thought a "Proof of summons served" is filed as well and at this point that has not been added to the documents.
I agree that it is self-imposed but why could be for many reasons. Maybe, to make kimmer wonder why the silence, maybe to give Kimmer a false sense of comfort, maybe to take a much needed break after all the excitement, or maybe to make a trip to California?
I am not worried, curious yes, but I am not concerned that it in any way is a negative sign. I do dislike the fact that it allows Kimmer's marketing blogs and articles to go to the top of a google search with all the silence, but we can try to counteract that by posting on the other anti-kimkins blogs to bury her ads.
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:42 PM   #1513
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Also, if it gets accepted as a class action, I don't think they'll list ALL the names. I think it's usually the name(s) of the person(s) actually bringing suit that's a class action, so "on behalf of" the rest of the class.

I once got awarded $0.23 in a class action against AT&T. Didn't even know I was involved in a law suit LOL
Yes, that is exactly how class action suits work. A small number of names are mentioned, but there is potential for thousands to eventually be a part of it. Once the suit is in the court system (which it is), new plaintiffs are added every day (which they are).
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Probably cost more for them to mail it to you, LOL!
They didn't mail me the $0.23. In order to claim it, I had to fill out some papers and mail them in. That stamp (let alone the time it would take to fill out the papers) would have cost me more than the 23 cents. So I never collected from AT&T. That was sometime in the '90s. I guess by now, those 23 cents might be worth a dollar? lol
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:49 PM   #1515
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:54 PM   #1516
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Heidi is a big scammer. I've come to believe that not one iota of truth falls out of her mouth or through her Key Board. Why not scam the system? It's unfortunately set up so that the system can get used by the dishonest. When I read that someone can claim "*caffeine disorder" ... com'n

*in the DSM ....
We all agree that Heidi finds it as easy to lie as to breathe. That makes her a liar. Her advice leads to severe injury if followed exclusively for any length of time, and it apparently doesn't bother her. That's sociopathy. But she has some definite medical problems such as obesity, trashed thyroid, and possibly an immune system disorder that led to her alopecia. (We don't know how long she's had alopecia.) At one point, she also had complications from a Caesarean section (possibly her first since her disability was mentioned as preceding Brandon's birth by Hector, I believe.) Whatever, she had medical issues from botched Weight Loss Surgery, botched Caesareans, extreme thyroid issues, a criminal record and an attitude that may have made her unemployable and thus qualified for disability benefits. Whether or not, at this time, she still would qualify cannot be determined by we biased onlookers. All this, too, may be entered as evidence during her deposition. But conniving as she is, she may still be fully entitled to benefits. However, shortly she may be "earning" every benefit she's getting.
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I am not worried, curious yes, but I am not concerned that it in any way is a negative sign. I do dislike the fact that it allows Kimmer's marketing blogs and articles to go to the top of a google search with all the silence, but we can try to counteract that by posting on the other anti-kimkins blogs to bury her ads.
I try to post frequently---just wish I understood more about what it takes to get blogs higher on the Google search engine---I did get my blog on technorati-submitted it to mybloglog and blogcatalog but it was deemed too new so was denied---I'll wait awhile and resubmit---anyone else got some suggestions???

I'm also still ticked about the google adwords and all those pro kimkins articles on EzineArticles--only one author removed hers of the 4 I posted on my blog--now there are tons more

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Old 10-21-2007, 06:19 PM   #1518
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as far as the disability payment go--if it is SSI--she recieves somewhere in the realm of $564/month--the first $100 income you make from a job they do not alow then they take $1 for every $2 you make and subtract it from you disability check-this is monthly

but if she receives SSDI--which means she draws off what she has pain into the system---she can work and as long as her monthly income does not exceed $864(the last time I checked, the limit may be higher now with cost of living increases) she is still able to draw her full benefits--if she has 3 months in a row of greater than that limit--then her benefits are discontinued
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I'm not familiar with class action suits at all....but I did send my information to join the suit a couple weeks ago. Am I understanding correctly that I won't get all of my money back....or even a reasonable portion of it?

I apologize if this has been explained before. I've not been to good at keeping up with these threads. I do want to say that I think you guys are amazing. You smelled a rat and didn't let it go until something was done about it! I've never seen anything like it and I'm truly in awe!
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:48 PM   #1522
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Deborah, I don't think there's been any speculation about amounts you might recover. It would be premature, if there had been. I was just using my $0.23 as an example of having been involved in a class action with AT&T, but it wasn't supposed to be indicative of how much ex-KK members might recover.
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:54 PM   #1523
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it's ok to keep talkin'....just try not to worry about what the blogs & "major" posters are and aren't saying
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sorry that is not true, I know people who are in on the lawsuit but their names are not mentioned, probably edited for space, or joined in after it was filed on monday.

my understanding is that listed on the filing papers are the first group of CA plaintiffs that signed up and then two out of state plaintiffs (becky & christin) to represent the big group of out of state plaintiffs.

potentially, anyone who paid for a membership can participate.

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