Why the fascination with Kimmer? #8 - Page 14

HoneyBee2 · 10-17-2007, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cinnya

I started again, then got hit by a thought. BONK! Is that blouse she's wearing a N.A. design? Is that patio furniture apt to be found on a Russian site?

Hello ,
Longtime Lurker here.I have been following this thread from the beginning, and finally I think I can help with something.
The patiochair in the picture is identical to ours. We bought our set last year in Home Depot.
argh I messed up the quote....

Do you think it is an old Home Depot ad? I know you say you got the furniture last year but the person appears to be dressed a decade prior....And I am thinking that it is not an ad the more I look at it close. The entire setting is not professional enough for an ad. Like someone mentioned the scrubs are not well kept and the ground would have perfect sod up to the patio and the chair would not be placed in front of the lamp pole like that I don't think.
I feel like it is someone from the eighties or early nineties dropped into a patio chair from the new millennium?!?!? But how is that possible unless it is a shot from a film that is supposed to be taking place during the 80's and the set prop person didn't think about changing the patio set to match?LOL

gettinserious · 10-17-2007, 07:13 PM

Do you think that photo could be photoshopped? I think it really could be an eighties person dropped into a newer chair... Think about it.

Wasn't Lesya's eyes photoshopped too? Why not this photo?

Jazlyn · 10-17-2007, 07:15 PM

Where in Florida does Tippy and the good doctor live? I'm not stalking them..honest. I just found something questionable.

juniper01 · 10-17-2007, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

I feel like it is someone from the eighties or early nineties dropped into a patio chair from the new millennium?!?!? But how is that possible unless it is a shot from a film that is supposed to be taking place during the 80's and the set prop person didn't think about changing the patio set to match?LOL

I tend to agree with you. The furniture is "now", the person is dressed a decade too old. I remember that type of blouse from the early 90's, I was a sales rep and had two or three of them in my wardrobe, not to mention similar scarves also.

It seems that she is wearing a skirt, not pants, the hair is early 90's. I have to be honest and say that all the Russian Bride sites that I have gone through (seems like 100's!) all the woman seem up to date with clothing, not at all like "chair Kimmer". How Frustrating!

susique333 · 10-17-2007, 07:19 PM

Not to step on anyones toes but MANY of the Russian/European photos show women dressed in 80s style clothing.

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Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Do you think it is an old Home Depot ad? I know you say you got the furniture last year but the person appears to be dressed a decade prior....And I am thinking that it is not an ad the more I look at it close. The entire setting is not professional enough for an ad. Like someone mentioned the scrubs are not well kept and the ground would have perfect sod up to the patio and the chair would not be placed in front of the lamp pole like that I don't think.
I feel like it is someone from the eighties or early nineties dropped into a patio chair from the new millennium?!?!? But how is that possible unless it is a shot from a film that is supposed to be taking place during the 80's and the set prop person didn't think about changing the patio set to match?LOL

juniper01 · 10-17-2007, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by susique333

Not to step on anyones toes but MANY of the Russian/European photos show women dressed in 80s style clothing.

No toes stepped on!

I do swear that I have not ever seen so many women in my life as on those Russian sites! Are there seriously that many Russian woman looking for men????

JustKim · 10-17-2007, 07:22 PM

can someone PM me questions and his answers? It is driving me nuts not knowing

HoneyBee2 · 10-17-2007, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jazlyn

Where in Florida does Tippy and the good doctor live? I'm not stalking them..honest. I just found something questionable.

I think it was decided that Dr. Mark was in ST PETERSBURG,FL
and Tippy is in ZEPHYRHILLS, FL.
Dr. Mark may live in Zephyrhills now or maybe at one time, but his acupuncture license has him in St. Petersburg Florida currently.

BamaGal · 10-17-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

I don't see a necklace, but I see a necklace/chain pattern on the shirt. Is that what you are talking about?
The earrings and hair could be the 80's too.

I saw the pattern on the shirt---but when I downloaded it and enlarged it it looks like a necklace twisted right on the belly area---it's really hard to tell--maybe it is the shirt pattern after all

I took your lead and have been checking out some vintage clothing sites--even found one for vintage ads--Paper Pursuits---also found an 80s site that lists all the fashion trends and it mentioned banana republic---bennetton

I80s.com

Bennetton Benetton first hit around 1988 - a new clothing line, all about colors, animal prints, and jeans. Alot of denim matching ensembles. It was a had to have line, like Guess, Esprit and L.A. Gear.
Banana Republic Banana Republic, before they became the upscale Gap they are today, launched in 1987 or so with a safari theme. It was all khaki's and t-shirts with jungle animals on them, and, of course, bananas. Most of the stores were decorated in rattan wood, with fake trees and a jeep in the middle of the store.

that shirt definitely has a safari theme to it---maybe banana republic???

HoneyBee2 · 10-17-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by susique333

Not to step on anyones toes but MANY of the Russian/European photos show women dressed in 80s style clothing.

I know what you are saying and it does seem to vary depending on the site. Some photos are of better quality and some are well....bad.
But I think the dated ones may very well be that...dated as in an old photo or profile. I say this because other things will be dated looking as well.
So hmmmmmm.....is it a person on holiday from another country visiting someone with new patio furniture.
I am just really thinking out loud here.
It does remind me of when a lifetime movie or something is done and it is supposed to be set in the 80's but then someone will answer like a cordless phone that is clearly not from that decade.
Does anyone know of a photo site like where people in the industry, students or those who like photography submit photos for review or critique? Maybe this one could be submitted with the question of does this look familiar to anyone or is this professional or a personal photo.
Does anyone get what I mean? I need some chocolate.

* Disclaimer- My TOM has thrown me into a fuzzy headed cloud and my thoughts are not as clear, plus I have sweet cravings from hell! Argggh.

HoneyBee2 · 10-17-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JustKim

can someone PM me questions and his answers? It is driving me nuts not knowing

Dr. Mark...right?

Heather150 · 10-17-2007, 07:43 PM

Are you sure the shirt is not part of Jacilyn Smiths fall collection?
You know how fond she was of ol' Jacilyn! hahaha

mrsmenopausal · 10-17-2007, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom

There are questions that have arisen asking whether the LCF admins could have done more to "stop" Kimmer. I'd like to address some of the questions since there seems to be some wild guesses being made about events and intentions.

Some claim we "protected" Kimmer when she was on LCF or at her new site. While she was here, she was an anonymous poster entitled to her opinion on dieting just like every one else. As long as the dieting debates remain respectful and within the Terms of Service, we allow discussions to take place even when there are disagreements or they contain non-standard views. If some discussions get overheated and admins notice it or are alerted to it, they will step in to remind people to be respectful to each other. We had no reason to ban Kimmer while she was posting here.

There were calls by other members for her to post her pictures. I believe this controversy and Kimmer's LCF presence existed years before I was involved with LCF so I don't really know the history on that without going back and reading lots of old posts. However, repeated calls for her pictures began to be seen as rude since no one is obligated to post their picture here regardless of their dieting ideas.

Once Kimmer left LCF to create a service which she was selling, there were many Kimkins followers that were attempting to recruit new customers for Kimmer by posting links to kimkins.com and various other ways of promoting the service in posts. Since it violates this site's Terms of Service to solicit, many of those posts were deleted by admins. Could there have been posts deleted by admins that were not intended to promote the Kimkins service even though they discussed the site? Sure, that's possible.

I can understand when people get upset when their posts are deleted, but it was certainly not done with the intention of stopping people from investigating her as has been implied. The admins here are human and are often asked to make judgment calls when moderating posts based on the Terms of Service. They graciously volunteer their time to help make LCF a great place. Due to the large volume of posts, we are not able to read even 2% of all the posts on this site, so we ask your understanding if we are not able to keep abreast of everything that is discussed here. Admins are often accused of showing preferential treatment to some members or arbitrary enforcement of the rules, when the fact is that we are simply not aware of some violations that occur unless we are alerted to them by other members.

I've read suggestions by some that LCF may have been financially benefiting from some relationship with Kimkins. No, that is not true at all. LCF has never received money from Kimmer or Kimkins.

As to why we are now allowing these "Fascination with Kimmer" threads, it really is due to the great member interest in talking about the various pictures that were claimed to be Kimmer so we made an exception to allow the discussion even with links to kimkins.com. The topic quickly snowballed from there and we were as surprised as everyone else to learn some of the things that surfaced.

OK, I just wanted to comment on some of the things I have read. We are aware that there are people saying we are to "blame" as much as Kimmer for what she has created, but I really think it is unfair and wrong. Whether we are to blame for anything, you can judge. It pains me to hear when an admin from here is in tears about things that have been said about this site - which we all put so much effort into - and the individuals that administrate it.

I know there is a lot of anger about this Kimmer topic and people are lashing out in various ways. For our part, I'll try to do a better job of communicating facts instead of letting speculation run wild in regards to how this website operates.

Thanks, Tom. I just want to say that I really appreciate that this thread is allowed to continue. It has been a real life saver for me. I was a kimkins member and I've learned so much on these threads. I can't even tell you how much. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Krisis

Hi guys, just letting you know I am still lurking and reading with great fascination. I have been flat on my back from a double ear infection so thanks for keeping me entertained while I am getting better. can't wait to see if Ducky/theTruth are going to update soon. Keep up the good spy work friends!

Hope you're feeling better soon!

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Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

I searched ebay for the shirt in order to get a reference. I searched using the terms, safari, jungle, animal, animals, giraffe, monkey, or zebra.
NO luck. I had thought if we found the designer maybe we could then narrow down the search.

I searched that one picture link earlier and couldn't find anything.

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Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

I don't recall getting an answer back from them???? But if you have already sent information to the IC3 which states that complaints filed via their website are processed and may be referred to federal, state, local or international law enforcement or regulatory agencies for possible investigation then I would think that would cover the attorney general. Then of course the signed petition goes to the Attorney General too.

I signed the petition and sent a bunch of email complaints. I hope I got them all.

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Originally Posted by WildAngel6

ThinkSlim: Another Diet Scam?

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Originally Posted by WildAngel6

Kimkins - Kimkins Cartoon

This cartoon looks like it might have been drawn by Randy Glasbergen, but interestingly enough the signature appears to have been edited out.

I wonder how Mr. Glasbergen would feel about that?

On his website, you can purchase his cartoons for use on your site. I wonder if Kimmer did that?

"All of the cartoons featured on this site are copyrighted material. Unauthorized usage is prohibited and illegal."

TODAYS CARTOON by Randy Glasbergen

They sure look the same to me.

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Originally Posted by Katinsac

it is his...it is cartoon #4 on his diet catagory!

Has anyone let him know they're using it? Let me know, okay?

MJR · 10-17-2007, 07:45 PM

Ok
Maybe this site might be of some help...
More realistic backgrounds and the styles, makeup, hair and jewlrey are all over the place.
Has anyone looked here yet?

Mail Order Brides | International Dating | Rose Brides

My_Sharona · 10-17-2007, 07:51 PM

Some of you gals should go work for CSI

susique333 · 10-17-2007, 07:51 PM

I looked up this, wow! Those Bride sites appear to be scams...maybe that is why Heidi gravitated to those sites! My husband worked with a guy in Chicago, who married a Russian gal. AFTER he sent $$ to her family in Russia who "were in need", paid for her ticket here, etc, nearly drove him nuts/ was terribly spoiled. He came home from work one day to an empty bank account and no vehicle.

Opportunistic Russian Women: Their Exploitative Mentality Revealed

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Originally Posted by juniper01

No toes stepped on!

I do swear that I have not ever seen so many women in my life as on those Russian sites! Are there seriously that many Russian woman looking for men????

gettinserious · 10-17-2007, 07:53 PM

I still vote for photochopped. I'm thinking maybe Brandon could be in on that. Kids these days know ALOT more about this stuff than I ever did. Course then again, I know some 50-60 year olds that can build whole Sim worlds using photoshop... I think it is worth a thought or two.

gettinserious · 10-17-2007, 07:56 PM

shoot, maybe I should become a russian bride. lol... J/K... no need to lower myself to KK standards.

quiggley · 10-17-2007, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

I think it was decided that Dr. Mark was in ST PETERSBURG,FL
and Tippy is in ZEPHYRHILLS, FL.
Dr. Mark may live in Zephyrhills now or maybe at one time, but his acupuncture license has him in St. Petersburg Florida currently.

His address listed is in Largo which is a little north you can be in St Pete Driving in about 10 minutes less if you make the lights LOL Zephyrhills is about 45 or so miles north east. Largo has location issues I get asked all the time if I live in Key Largo and have to explain I am between St Pete and Clearwater

susique333 · 10-17-2007, 07:57 PM

When my hubby retired, he took a 2nd job at Lowes to keep busy. I just asked him and he says that there are some Home Depots in China but does not think in Western Europe yet. He added that photo might be from Canada, they have Home Depots, Lowes and Sears there.

McLurkypants · 10-17-2007, 08:02 PM

Hey HoneyBee, I left a comment on one of the blogs asking this - can you tell us which of the Russian mail order bride or other sites have had the most "hits" for fake success pictures?

juniper01 · 10-17-2007, 08:03 PM

The only problem that I am finding that in all the thousands of Russian Brides I have looked at, I really have not seen one pair of large earrings. It seems more "Americanized" of a picture to me

I am on this site, there seems to be the type of pictures we are looking for, more natural backgrounds I am only in the 200's, it goes to about 1000

Bride.RU | Ladies / All Last updated: Wed Oct 17 03:03:01 2007 (Moscow time)

I just ended on page 360......my head is spinning with Russian Brides!

HoneyBee2 · 10-17-2007, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by McLurkypants

Hey HoneyBee, I left a comment on one of the blogs asking this - can you tell us which of the Russian mail order bride or other sites have had the most "hits" for fake success pictures?

On the websites TO search list I rated the ones that had the most fake pics, but the one that has proven to be Heidi's favorite http://www.bluesapphires.net/cgi-bin...&action=searc
These were also some of her other favs!
Choose Your Bride from thousands of Beautiful Russian Girls â€“ Anastasia International
http://www.elenasmodels.com/(age 30-46 done)

10-17-2007, 07:15 PM	#393
Jazlyn MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,010 Gallery: Jazlyn Stats: 290/245.5/160	Where in Florida does Tippy and the good doctor live? I'm not stalking them..honest. I just found something questionable. Last edited by Jazlyn : 10-17-2007 at 07:17 PM.

10-17-2007, 08:02 PM	#411
McLurkypants Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 143 Gallery: McLurkypants Stats: WLS 3/28/05 351/175/175 WOE: Protein forward Start Date: 3/28/05	Question for HoneyBee Hey HoneyBee, I left a comment on one of the blogs asking this - can you tell us which of the Russian mail order bride or other sites have had the most "hits" for fake success pictures?

10-17-2007, 08:03 PM	#412
juniper01 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,661 Gallery: juniper01 Stats: 242/180/145 WOE: Low(er) carb Start Date: Dec 2003	The only problem that I am finding that in all the thousands of Russian Brides I have looked at, I really have not seen one pair of large earrings. It seems more "Americanized" of a picture to me I am on this site, there seems to be the type of pictures we are looking for, more natural backgrounds I am only in the 200's, it goes to about 1000 Bride.RU \| Ladies / All Last updated: Wed Oct 17 03:03:01 2007 (Moscow time) I just ended on page 360......my head is spinning with Russian Brides! Last edited by juniper01 : 10-17-2007 at 08:21 PM.

10-17-2007, 07:13 PM	#392
gettinserious Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Crossroads of America :D Posts: 7,015 Gallery: gettinserious Stats: 366.2/315/170-150 WOE: lowcarb foods Start Date: argh	Do you think that photo could be photoshopped? I think it really could be an eighties person dropped into a newer chair... Think about it. Wasn't Lesya's eyes photoshopped too? Why not this photo?

10-17-2007, 07:22 PM	#397
JustKim Taking a break Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 19,039 Gallery: JustKim	can someone PM me questions and his answers? It is driving me nuts not knowing

10-17-2007, 07:43 PM	#402
Heather150 Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,036 Gallery: Heather150 Stats: 205/120 WOE: Atkins Start Date: Feb 28 2003	Are you sure the shirt is not part of Jacilyn Smiths fall collection? You know how fond she was of ol' Jacilyn! hahaha

10-17-2007, 07:45 PM	#404
MJR Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 270 Gallery: MJR WOE: Atkins	Ok Maybe this site might be of some help... More realistic backgrounds and the styles, makeup, hair and jewlrey are all over the place. Has anyone looked here yet? Mail Order Brides \| International Dating \| Rose Brides

10-17-2007, 07:51 PM	#405
My_Sharona MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 2,179 Gallery: My_Sharona WOE: Atkins	Some of you gals should go work for CSI

10-17-2007, 07:53 PM	#407
gettinserious Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Crossroads of America :D Posts: 7,015 Gallery: gettinserious Stats: 366.2/315/170-150 WOE: lowcarb foods Start Date: argh	I still vote for photochopped. I'm thinking maybe Brandon could be in on that. Kids these days know ALOT more about this stuff than I ever did. Course then again, I know some 50-60 year olds that can build whole Sim worlds using photoshop... I think it is worth a thought or two.

10-17-2007, 07:56 PM	#408
gettinserious Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Crossroads of America :D Posts: 7,015 Gallery: gettinserious Stats: 366.2/315/170-150 WOE: lowcarb foods Start Date: argh	shoot, maybe I should become a russian bride. lol... J/K... no need to lower myself to KK standards.

10-17-2007, 07:57 PM	#410
susique333 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 50 years old, I live in Omaha Posts: 775 Gallery: susique333 Stats: 230/173/150 WOE: Eat Fat Get Thin Start Date: summer 2007	When my hubby retired, he took a 2nd job at Lowes to keep busy. I just asked him and he says that there are some Home Depots in China but does not think in Western Europe yet. He added that photo might be from Canada, they have Home Depots, Lowes and Sears there.