Why the fascination with Kimmer? #8

[Carolina Rose]

Originally Posted by Princess Dieter

And I am getting the idea that it was difficult to serve them, right? That says something.

I got that impression too from an earlier post someone made (can't find it now), but I was hoping someone would elaborate on this. Did the two of them go on the run?

[Princess Dieter]

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

Honeybee2: re: Flu shot! Unless a person has a heart problem, respiratory problem or aids, they should think twice about getting the flu shot. It's much better fighting it off naturally than being injected with a solution that contains mercury. I have never had a flu shot - in the beginning because I found out I was allergic to thermasol(sp?). I have only had the flu once (Hong Kong) and that was horrible but within a week it passed. IMHO I would not get the flu shot. It saddens me to see all the senior citizens down here in Florida knocking over one another in the lines when there was a shortage. What nonsense!

I've always had a bad respiratory system, since infancy. My brother, too. I used to miss a lot of school and had many ER trips and some hospitalizations for pneumonia. As an adult, I take multiple medications just to breathe like a normal person. So, I generally get the flu shot. The flu, which normal folks can fight off (even if miserably so), can result in complications for me. I could die. Period. So, for me, the trade off is worth it.

But that's not everyone. If someone is a healthy person, no chronic illnesses that could make the flu something really life-threatening (and I think the elderly are put in the high risk group, but not all of the senior citizens have chronic conditions), then you don't need it, is my opinion. IF you fight off bad colds and infections well and normally and don't complicate, you can likely fight off the flu fine, too, even if it knocks you off your feet. (I do think that folks who live alone should consider it, even if they're pretty healthy, because the flu can make you so miserable, that you really need someone to help you out with fluids, meals, and sometimes just activities of daily living.)

I take 3 to 7 weeks to fight off bronchitis that results from colds or sinusitis. (And no, I don't take antibiotics unless there is a bacterial component, which there generally is not. I dont' like to abuse any medication, even antibiotics). So, fighting off the flu is serious business, physiologically.

BTW, Cheryl, I also got the HOng Kong flu, back when I was a kid. It was awful. I was near death's door. I remember the multiple shots of cortisone and other drugs to keep my airways open. I remember my dad carrying me through the snow to get medical help, and my boots falling off my feet cause I was so exhausted from the illness that my muscles all went slack.

I wouldn't wish that kind of flu on anyone, well..maybe Osama and his ilk.

Any time a person gets an injection or a prescription of any kind, that person should research it. What it's for? Is it effective? What side effects? What interacts with it? What should you do to minimize effects or improve its function?

I can't tell you how ticked off I get at people who don't take full courses of antibiotics (take a few pills, feel better, stop). It's those people who contributed to the MRSAs and other resistant germs of today. Them and the doctors who so freely passed out antibiotics for what was usually viral.

Oops..that was too soapboxy. Off I go, back to my royal duties.

[Princess Dieter]

Originally Posted by jayed

So still no delaying tactic from Heidi. I'm a bit surprised. She still has tomorrow to come up with something. I wonder if she really is going to stick with her ignore everything policy.

I would check into the status of the California goat population. I hear there are dire and dark deeds of sorcery one can perform with goat sacrifices. Maybe SOMEONE wants to go to bed obese and bald and wake up slim in a red dress with shiny brown hair. Many goats are needed for this. MANY.

Just follow the bleating and the smell of newly sharpened knives.

(The Halloween Heidi Theory entry for the day. )

[MJR]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

UPDATE ON FITNESS GURU
As y'all probably recall I was attempting to get as much information regarding FG so we could verify he was at the Fitness together in CG. Upon doing picture verification and reading the press releases contradictory/questionable information was brought forward. We had wanted to avoid an email going to the wrong location but the research we did only seemed to show more conflicting information concerning the FG and that fitness together.
The first email inquiring about him being at kimkins came back with this response that I had already posted:
Sorry...Nick Clark is no longer the online trainer with Kimkins.com.

That email didn't tell us much, other than confirming what we and others had guessed. The third person format made it even more odd but since it did come from this email address,
From: "nickclark" <nickclark~fitnesstogether.com> and we could not get a definitive explanation as to why things were not adding up, so it was decided to attempt to contact him at the same email address again. This email consisted of the post that Tippy Toes had put up at Kimkins stating that FG was let go as an adviser and "her reason" as to why, in addition information regarding the pending lawsuit was also included.

A response has been received but we are awaiting permission to post the email in its entirety. However, I did feel it was important to clarify and update what I thought would be appropriate at this time.
First- it appears some concerns were founded about the need to verify his contact information- He is no longer at the Fitness Together
Two- his new email is clarkuab9(at) hotmail(dot)com he asked that the old email to FT NOT be used.

I felt this was important to update because we definitely don't want to cause any issues for FG and I ask that any contact be done by use of his correct/new email.
With that being said I also wanted to comment on how kind and considerate his email read to me. He did show a true compassion for the kimkin's members and does seem to one of the good guys.
He also sounded a little sad about the situation and I did feel a twinge of guilt for questioning him within the last few days but given the context of the situation at kimkins, I do honestly feel suspicions were warranted when conflicting information appeared. It was in done with good intentions in hopes of contacting him at the correct location and to inquire about the circumstances regarding him leaving. I hope that this post shows that, although, the situation Nick was in was questionable, his character does not appear to be questionable.

The rest of his email is not going to be a block buster or anything but it does address some issues and I think it could prove important later on down the road.

I do hope for the best for Nick and I think he would appreciate any words of encouragement or comments if you approved of the job he did while at kimkins. I am not suggesting a huge email blitz, but as I commented on earlier the email read as a little down and it may be that he believes what Tippy wrote or that he doesn't know how he was praised by even me, a member of the negative nancies brigade ...as well as others on this board, for being the sane voice of wisdom over there.
What do y'all think?

GREAT JOB GUYS!!
I knew there was more to this story. This guy seemed way too normal and upfront to be "on staff" over at "the pound."
I'd be happy to shoot him an email and let him know this, if you think it might help.

[Princess Dieter]

Originally Posted by SMP

When I was a caregiver for my elderly in-laws, I got a flu shot for their sakes. Now that dh and I are the elderly ones, I have rejected the flu shot. Hubby can do as he pleases, although the doctor is leaning on us both - again! - to have one. Last year, I finally gave in, had the flu off and on for weeks afterwards. I've had it already this fall; so what's the sense of the shot? I am still debating the lifetime Viral Pneumonia vaccine - do I want to live out my days in a nursing home as a near-vegetable, or would I (in my right mind) and my family be grateful for a quicker release from pneumonia?

That is a tough choice. I understand your hesitation.

I had to restructure my life to keep contamination down, given that I spent a couple years where 5 to 6 months of each year were spent in a state of respiratory infection. I wanted to die. No kidding.

So, I became obsessive about hand-washing (moreso than usual), carrying sanitizers and wipes, masks and gloves. I'd be the gal at church on Sunday with the gloves on for that Fellowship shake, then sanitizing my hand while sitting in the pew, trying to keep some space between me and the other worshippers. Fortunately, folks generally knew why and were pretty kind, kept their sick kids away. Didn't cough right at me. Even with that, I had to curtail church involvement cause I was catching everything in the air.

It sucks to worry if I touch a doorknob or objects in the grocery store. Sucks when I hold my niece or nephew and worry that I'll be down for the count for weeks cause they had some school germy on their hands or faces when I touched or kissed them.

I think I'd want a quick release. But, having had pneumonia several times, that is one miserable way to go.

Viruses are amazing troublemakers, ain't they?

[Princess Dieter]

Originally Posted by MorganMacLeoid

1 in 150 kids will develop Autism. A large percentage of those children will develop Autism simply from the *preservative* used by the pharm companies to increase the shelf life of the vaccines they create. It doesn't need to be in there, but it increases their profit margin.

Yeah, Kimmer makes me sick, but some things make me sicker.

Vent over.. thanks for letting me share that.. its hard to talk about and who knows, maybe someone will read it and not have to feel what I feel now.

Oh, Morgan. That bruised my heart.

You're so totally right. I will never understand why things that DO NOT NEED TO BE in treatments are added for the sake of convenience/profit. Just make it right and charge what's needful to make a decent profit, but don't add dangerous toxins for no really justifiable reason.

No kid or adult should be getting toxins that way. None of us.

The Princess is so sad.

[Princess Dieter]

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

Oh dear. I fear I stepped in it a bit with my assessment of the flu shot. Let me explain. My understanding is that you cannot get the flu from the current vaccination (true for the last few years since they started making it with dead virus instead of weakened, but live virus). The psychosomatic flu I spoke of after the shot is the next day malaise (sorry Tippy-kins) thinking you are coming down with something kind of thing and blaming it on the shot. These people either were already coming down with something (coincidence) or they have active imaginations.

Okay, see, I bristle every time I hear "psychosomatic." Why?

When I was an asthmatic kid, the main idea was that it was psychosomatic. Time and science proved it's not.

Then I heard PMS was psychosomatic. It's not.

I'd tell my M.D. that my asthma got worse during the PMS stage. He scoffed. Studies now come out showing asthmatic women get more attacks in the premenstrual days. Hm.

So, color me very skeptical about this. I get the flu shot nearly every year. I always have a reaction. Sometimes it's just swelling and heat at the injection site (I get a big lump of pink-colored redness, sometimes the size of half-a baseball.) Other times it's an all over malaise and pain in the joints and a slight fever.

No. It's not the flu. I've had the flu. I know what the flu is like and it's horrible. But it's a reaction to the shot. And I"m NOT allergic to eggs (I eat them every day, love em.)

Why is it surprising that an injection that stimulates the immune system would set off a systemic immune reaction that makes one sick?

One day, those saying it's all in your head--psychosomatic--will go the way of the scoffers at asthma and PMS, because someone will prove that people (some) do react adversely this way to the shot, feeling sick as if they had a mild "flu."

[Princess Dieter]

Originally Posted by Leannemomof2girls

My health didn't suffer. I came to this site and read all the controversy and got off it after only 2 weeks. I'm glad you guys saved me from her.

YAY! I'm so glad you were spared the horrors of Kimkins! Especially since your avatar shows you have two lovely, lovely little ones you need to be healthy for. What cuties!

[This time]

The only reason why i get a flu shot is because i have asthma and need sprays everyday to keep my lungs open,so does my mother and brother and father , we have all had the pneumonia shot also. Now it's been 6 years and thank g-d no flu so far . It had to take an er visit for me to change my mind about getting the shot, my mother also had landed in the er, and she is diabetic, so that is why we get our shots. Linda

[This time]

Now it's the count down to kimmergate.

[CarolynF]

Originally Posted by This time

Now it's the count down to kimmergate.

Kimmergate is GREAT!! I'm sure we will know if she shows up..Hopefully, we will hear that she made it!!

[Katinsac]

To those who thought something should be said to Heidi's Landlord...at this time I don't think it would be wise. What if she got evicted? Then we would not know where she is if she moved and right now we do. They obviously had a hard time serving her knowing where she was so we do not want her to move. We all just have to wait and let this stuff play out. It all takes time but we are moving along in the right direction.

[Katinsac]

Honey, good job on the FG, can't wait to read his email if approved to post here. Do you think he took the job at Kimkins because he was no longer affiliated with that gym? Maybe he is down and out and it was a way to make a few bucks right now. Sure hope he explained a little about his experience with them (kimpire).

[Katinsac]

Leannemomof2girls Welcome!! So glad you didn't have problems and did your research. I wish I had. They always say if it is too good to be true it probably is but I guess we all just hope that this time.....but, I think I have finally learned my lesson and the hard way.

[Magicsmom]

HoneyBee well done! I'd trust your instincts any day!

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by Princess Dieter

I've always had a bad respiratory system, since infancy. My brother, too. I used to miss a lot of school and had many ER trips and some hospitalizations for pneumonia. As an adult, I take multiple medications just to breathe like a normal person. So, I generally get the flu shot. The flu, which normal folks can fight off (even if miserably so), can result in complications for me. I could die. Period. So, for me, the trade off is worth it.

Oops..that was too soapboxy. Off I go, back to my royal duties.

I can certainly understand why you would get the shot I would too if I had your problems.

My daughter is a teacher in Wisconsin and came down with a horrible cold/fever, etc. She said that even the teachers with the hand wash antiseptic on their desks came down with it. They were very diligent in washing everything down in the classrooms, etc.

You are right - anyone with health issues should get one. Better to be safe than sorry!

[This time]

ixtapacheryl... you and your husband look like such a cute couple, is that photo taken on a ship?

[This time]

I wonder if KTLA will have surveillance video on kimmer tomorrow?

[CarolynF]

Originally Posted by This time

I wonder if KTLA will have surveillance video on kimmer tomorrow?

That would be great..I wonder if she has an appointment with John??? I'm assuming that she can't just show up because they have to have HER attorney and a court reporter, etc..there..With attorneys...time is big money.

[Elloise]

Originally Posted by Princess Dieter

I get the flu shot nearly every year. I always have a reaction. Sometimes it's just swelling and heat at the injection site (I get a big lump of pink-colored redness, sometimes the size of half-a baseball.) Other times it's an all over malaise and pain in the joints and a slight fever.

I usually just get a sore arm but one year I woke up a few days later with a HUGE swollen lymph node under my arm. The shot had been long enough ago that I had forgotten about it, so worried about what that lymph node could mean. Of course, I thought the worst all weekend, only to have the nurse remind me on that Monday morning that I had a flu shot in that arm. The lymph node was the size of a chicken egg. It's a rare reaction but proved to me that my immune system was getting ready to take on the flu that year.

I haven't been sick since getting the flu shot starting about 15 years ago, but I know that odds are that I'll get it someday.

[SMP]

Originally Posted by Princess Dieter

...Even with that, I had to curtail church involvement cause I was catching everything in the air.

Been there, suffered the consequences.

It sucks to worry if I touch a doorknob or objects in the grocery store. Sucks when I hold my niece or nephew and worry that I'll be down for the count for weeks cause they had some school germy on their hands or faces when I touched or kissed them.

I think I'd want a quick release. But, having had pneumonia several times, that is one miserable way to go.

Viruses are amazing troublemakers, ain't they?

I chose to go a different route. I had an 18 month asthma attack that I've since concluded was more of a whooping cough (which doctors reluctantly admitted a few years ago.) I'd been vaccinated as a kid, while 2 of my unvaccinated sisters got whooping cough. But doctors were discovering this strange whooping cough in adults vaccinated as kids. After I got pneumonia , and steroids, the asthma cleared up and I've never had it since. My route mostly consisted of building my immunity. It got set back with a subsequent pneumonia, then heart troubles, but hey- I'm in great shape for the shape I'm in!

[Tanner]

[quote=tinkerpam;9437526]

Originally Posted by BobbiOh

I just thought of something: Has anyone contacted the owner of the condo where she lives? Most leases have a clause that says that the property will not be used for illegal purposes and I'm sure the HOA has a rule against operating a business from one of the residences.

Excellent point!

I believe that someone did that a few threads ago when she moved from one apt to another.

[jayed]

Originally Posted by CarolynF

That would be great..I wonder if she has an appointment with John??? I'm assuming that she can't just show up because they have to have HER attorney and a court reporter, etc..there..With attorneys...time is big money.

Oh, she can just not show up. Parties do it all the time.

Have we confirmed that she has an attorney? Last time I checked the online documents, no attorney had entered appearance.

[Cutie]

Originally Posted by jayed

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Have we confirmed that she has an attorney? Last time I checked the online documents, no attorney had entered appearance.

yep, she has one...i don't think his name is showing up anywhere on the online documents because no new documents have been filed since he's been retained.

there's not even documents filed regarding heidi suing john for defamation of character...seems someone is just tossing out empty threats, trying to intimidate