Why the fascination with Kimmer? #8

[celeste]

Dont get too too excited about deposition day. Basically it is a fact finding mission for the attorneys, so that they have the information they need to plan their case. I would not look for KKs to be gone in the am of Nov 2nd. I actually expect to hear very much at all about what goes on. Hopefully we will hear if she appears, but I doubt much more than that. This process is going to take a fair amount of time. "The wheels of justice move slowly"

[Chelveston]

Originally Posted by celeste

Dont get too too excited about deposition day. Basically it is a fact finding mission for the attorneys, so that they have the information they need to plan their case. I would not look for KKs to be gone in the am of Nov 2nd. I actually expect to hear very much at all about what goes on. Hopefully we will hear if she appears, but I doubt much more than that. This process is going to take a fair amount of time. "The wheels of justice move slowly"

Every little bit helps, though.

Mostly, we just know how much Hidey will enjoy it, which is what makes the whole thing so....special!

[This time]

Originally Posted by celeste

Dont get too too excited about deposition day. Basically it is a fact finding mission for the attorneys, so that they have the information they need to plan their case. I would not look for KKs to be gone in the am of Nov 2nd. I actually expect to hear very much at all about what goes on. Hopefully we will hear if she appears, but I doubt much more than that. This process is going to take a fair amount of time. "The wheels of justice move slowly"

I just want her to show up in court

[This time]

I think were due for a kimmer fascination #9 soon?

[Sweeteater]

Originally Posted by MorganMacLeoid

Even though its OT, I really wanted to reply to this. It's such a huge personal thing for me.

Mods, please indulge me and I promise to stay on topic forever! heh.

My son was born and was perfectly normal. Started babbling almost from the get go. He was engaging, he'd stare into your eyes and babble so animatedly, that we called it his "Storytelling". He was saying a good number of words by his first birthday and had met or exceeded all of the normal milestones for his age group.

Then at his 1 year check up he got the "big" shots.

That night he started a fever and was acting lethargic and very quiet. I called the Dr. and they said "oh its a reaction, give him some tylenol and he'll be ok in a few days", so, I did.

Few days later, he's still sitting on the floor staring at the TV, almost unresponsive to anything. Didn't want to eat, didn't talk, didn't say Mamma or baba or anything.. not one word for days. I took him to the ER, because his ped thought it was just "a reaction from the vaccines".

The ER ped did a few tests and tried talking to him and asked me how long he'd been autistic.

It was two years to the day after that visit to the ER that he finally said "I love you Momma". (He was three years and 6 days old).

He has incredibly high levels of mercury in his brain. His body could not process the thimerasol in the vaccines, the MMR being the worst for thimerasol content. (modern mercury derivative - just a preservative, not even a necessary part of the vaccine). They have considered chelation therapy, which could do far more harm than good.

20 years ago, 1 in 20,000 children developed Autism. Now, 1 in 150. What's changed? Oh yeah, thimerasol.

There are PLENTY of medical studies that show the connection to mercury and autism - though most of them are from other countries. The few studies done here were funded by the CDC and pharm companies themselves, so their bias is too strong. I've been working with a doctor in Germany who has completed a 3 year study confirming the connection and is currently trying to get a visa to the US to lecture about the dangers of this preservative.

I am part of several class action lawsuits against the pharmaceutical companies - not that I ever expect to get anywhere, but I want to be involved.

Now, that all said, not all children develop autism only from mercury poisoning and vaccinations. Some genetic combinations make children more predisposed to the danger and some children develop forms of Autism that are not mercury related at all.

It kills me sometimes to think that I did this to him. I trusted the doctor and got those vaccines, because that's what GOOD parents do, right?

If I had said no.. he'd be "fine" or "normal". The bottom line is that it IS my fault because I didn't do any research on these drugs before I allowed my child to be pumped full of them. I had no idea. (But I should have known.. the father of my son had 2 children from a previous marriage.. one of them was Autistic as well.. I knew about it.. should have read about it.)

I know how guilty I will feel for the rest of my life.. and woe to the pharmaceutical salesman that crosses my path one day.

1 in 150 kids will develop Autism. A large percentage of those children will develop Autism simply from the *preservative* used by the pharm companies to increase the shelf life of the vaccines they create. It doesn't need to be in there, but it increases their profit margin.

Yeah, Kimmer makes me sick, but some things make me sicker.

Vent over.. thanks for letting me share that.. its hard to talk about and who knows, maybe someone will read it and not have to feel what I feel now.

My friend had the same thing happen to her daughter. Her aunt has made the statement that she was progressing fine until her first shots. They're just now connecting the dots. She has just now been diagnosed with autism. Thanks for sharing your story.

[conbofan9]

Its The Final Countdown.....


psst: Tippy getting eggcited?

[This time]

Originally Posted by conbofan9

Its The Final Countdown.....


psst: Tippy getting eggcited?

[Sweeteater]

Originally Posted by conbofan9

Its The Final Countdown.....


psst: Tippy getting eggcited?

if she's been following her own advice, she may show up looking like her million $$$

[marnaewilson]

I just had an interesting thing happen. I decided that this Halloween I'd take a day off and eat any candy I wanted to. I LOVE candy, and I really miss it. Splenda makes me gain weight too, so I have to really be careful of all sweets. So I ate a mini candy bar. Ick. No flavor at all. Just a mouth full of sugar. I had to wash it down with a full glass of water. So then I tried a junior mint. Ick. Only a very strong mint hit. No chocolate flavor at all. Weird. Had to wash it down with water, too. So I'm really appreciating the chocolates I make with coconut oil, sliced almonds, cocoa powder, stevia, and peanut butter. I taste all the flavors and they don't give me a headache. The mini cheesecakes (muffins) made with cream cheese, stevia, egg, vanilla, and lemon juice are so good too. So I guess it's a good thing to discover most cheap candy doesn't actually taste very good. Happy Halloween!

[Elloise]

Originally Posted by This time

I just want her to show up in court

I really hate to say this, but I don't think there is a snowball's chance you know where that she will appear anywhere tomorrow.

What happens if she doesn't show? They reschedule. And then reschedule again. Lots of threats of arrest and more people knocking on her door, but we won't see most of this and time will march on into winter, then spring....

Not to say she won't get what's due in the end, it just isn't going to be tomorrow.

I would LOVE to eat my words, though. I would LOVE to hear 'We told you so, Elloise!' Here's hoping!

[conbofan9]

Originally Posted by Sweeteater

if she's been following her own advice, she may show up looking like her million $$$

just had a really funny thought!!! OK we all saw Tippy's before and afters right???? what if Tippy shows up tomorrow wearing a red dress, pretending to be kimmer's after!! think tippy can look like Lysa?....if she has to right things downe, she can just use the xcuse that she is russian and cant speek inglish tooo well and cante right it eyether...

[FaithM.]

Elloise, I think you're right about that. Sadly, I don't think it will be as soon as we hope for either, and certainly not soon enough whenever it does. And when it does, maybe it will be just when she has let full guard down again, then will hit her when she really is least expecting it!

[This time]

Originally Posted by Elloise

I really hate to say this, but I don't think there is a snowball's chance you know where that she will appear anywhere tomorrow.

What happens if she doesn't show? They reschedule. And then reschedule again. Lots of threats of arrest and more people knocking on her door, but we won't see most of this and time will march on into winter, then spring....

Not to say she won't get what's due in the end, it just isn't going to be tomorrow.

I would LOVE to eat my words, though. I would LOVE to hear 'We told you so, Elloise!' Here's hoping!

Elloise...Your probably right,but we can still hope

[losingjusme]

OK, i obviously missed it.

Was Tippy ordered to appear as well or just "moral support" for Heidi/Kimmer?

[Katinsac]

Happy Halloween all....for those with kids and going out tonight...have a safe one.

TT was not requested to appear...we are just hoping that down the line she will be asked to give a deposition also.

[Katinsac]

The wheels of justice might turn slow, but, they are turning. I doubt Heidi or Brandon will show up for their depositions but I also doubt John will play games with them so they had better reconsider. I don't think John messes and will do everything in his power to stop these people.

Hope TT made enough money working for Heidi that she can take over the site and keep it going but I doubt it. She would have to start her own and I doubt she could get the followers as she isn't as smart as Heidi and as much of a people person as Heidi.

[Sheridan]

Originally Posted by MorganMacLeoid

I've been working with a doctor in Germany who has completed a 3 year study confirming the connection and is currently trying to get a visa to the US to lecture about the dangers of this preservative.

I am part of several class action lawsuits against the pharmaceutical companies - not that I ever expect to get anywhere, but I want to be involved.

You are a heroine, Morgan!

Originally Posted by conbofan9

just had a really funny thought!!! OK we all saw Tippy's before and afters right???? what if Tippy shows up tomorrow wearing a red dress, pretending to be kimmer's after!! think tippy can look like Lysa?....if she has to right things downe, she can just use the xcuse that she is russian and cant speek inglish tooo well and cante right it eyether...

Um, only if someone is really, really stoned.

[mirmir3]

Originally Posted by anipomoni

I find it odd that you would talk about religion and scientology to thousands of your colleagues. If that's true, then obviously you would have done so b/c of some knowledge of a relationship between the field and the religion. In my field, it would never occur to me to talk about scientology.

My position entails that I consult with other physicians about nutrition and practice management issues. I speak with an average of 100+ doctors a week. Like I stated earlier, scientology does have several front groups that target the medical professions, almost universally these are 'practice management groups'. Managing to recruit: religious conversion in the workplace Sociology of Religion - Find Articles
STOP-WISE.BIZ : Sterling Management Systems and Scientology

One of the basic tenents that these scientology front groups use is that they appeal to intellectual eleitism. They ALL heavily push 'Management by Statistics' software. That is one of the basic things that LRon wrote in his management and success doctrines. I know that IF a doctor (and while I speak to a lot of chiro's, I also speak with vets, dentists, MD's, DO's, PhD's etc) is using Management by Statistics software - then they are a member of a scientology based PM group. Usually, their verbage and interactions will let you know how far into it they are -- and I have no qualms about discussing things with them.

Scientology --- A Message for John S....... <p> -- here is a quote from this site: I explained that soon he wouldn't be able to stay away from scientology and he wouldn't be able to think of anything but scientology and L. Ron Hubbard. I explained to him how the Church of Scientology operates a number of Management front groups that target specifically, dentists, veterinarians, chiropractors and podiatrists and these are targeted for recruitment because they are attracted to management information and they all have credit cards which can be maxed up to $100,000 and beyond. In addition to Hollander Mgt. there is Sterling mgt. , the Marcus Group, Singer, Precision Mgt. and others.

I further explained to this couple that since she would not get involved with scientology they would put pressure on him to divorce her. She would object to all of the money going to scientology, all of the time spent at scientology and the ever increasing debt. Scientology would soon convince him that she was a 'Suppressive Person' and that he should 'Disconnect' from her. He would eventually dump her and the kids and would spend all of his time at scientology and 'helping the world' with scientology. He would run up a tremendous credit card debt of $100-200...probably $300,000. Finally, he would run out of money with his credit cards all being maxed out. Scientology would tell him to sell or dump his dental practice and to work on staff for scientology. He would get all of his courses and auditing FREE plus he would be helping to 'Clear' the planet..

But once he got on staff and was working 16 hours a day for $50 a week he would at some point realize that he couldn't live on this and as he was always working to 'Clear' the planet he never had time for the 'free' courses and auditing.

I know someone who lived with a chiropractor years ago. He was a scientologist and she would go with him to the church. She told me that I would never believe how many chiropractors were actually scientologists. I know of chiropractors that freely admit that there are disproportionate #'s of scientologists in the field.
I am sure they can't make the link obvious, but perhaps the connection stems from the religions position against conventional medicine, similar to the views of chiropractic medicine.

And contrary to popular belief, you can supposedly be another religion and a scientologist.

I'm glad to know that you base your sweeping opinions on chiropractic and taking everything we say with a grain of salt, based on a friend who lived with one. I did not bash your opinion on vaccination, I merely stated some reasons why alternative practitioners, including myself, do not advocate them. There is no need to be hostile or arguementative. I most certainly have not attacked your profession.

You can certainly see by many of the posts that I am not the only one who questions the safety and efficacy of vaccination.

I was unaware that this thread was intended for bashing anyone other than scammers like Hidey. I suggest that we get back to the topic at hand, we're here to discuss Kimkins, not slam members who say something we don't personally agree with.

[Katinsac]

WE need to stay on topic.....wonder what Kimmer is wearing for Halloween? Wonder Woman outfit? lol

[BobbiOh]

I just thought of something: Has anyone contacted the owner of the condo where she lives? Most leases have a clause that says that the property will not be used for illegal purposes and I'm sure the HOA has a rule against operating a business from one of the residences.

Edited to add: Course we probably want to know where to find her too.

[Locarb4me]

Originally Posted by MorganMacLeoid

Even though its OT, I really wanted to reply to this. It's such a huge personal thing for me.

Vent over.. thanks for letting me share that.. its hard to talk about and who knows, maybe someone will read it and not have to feel what I feel now.

Morgan That is a terrible thing. I've believed for a long time that it's likely the vaccines (additives) causing this epidemic of autism.

Heck, for that matter, I think it's the American medical establishment and Big Pharma that are together causing most of the worst diseases and ailments in this country nowadays. Along with the idiots who refuse to believe that refined carbohydrates will give you heart disease, HBP, diabetes and God knows what all--in other words, kill ya eventually-- and work to bury that research and knowledge.

I think it's awesome that you are using your pain to fuel an activist approach. Who knows how many people you may help? Bravo

[tinkerpam]

[quote=BobbiOh;9437350]I just thought of something: Has anyone contacted the owner of the condo where she lives? Most leases have a clause that says that the property will not be used for illegal purposes and I'm sure the HOA has a rule against operating a business from one of the residences.

Excellent point!

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by Tanner

I am shocked..
She is / must have been reading over here on her other browser

Maybe we can teach her the correct way to run a website and how to treat people....

Originally Posted by BobbiOh

I just thought of something: Has anyone contacted the owner of the condo where she lives? Most leases have a clause that says that the property will not be used for illegal purposes and I'm sure the HOA has a rule against operating a business from one of the residences.

Edited to add: Course we probably want to know where to find her too.

This was brought up maybe starting in Thread #3 .... I'm sure her landlord doesn't know about it.


I had a dream last night that we drove by her condo looking for her van and I saw a white one piled high with mattresses. Found out Brandon was selling mattresses on the side for extra money. For some reason one of my brothers was involved in the Heidi/Brandon caper and the FBI came up behind him to take him in to custody. They never found Brandon or Heidi - just my brother.

[froleena]

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl