Why the fascination with Kimmer? #8 - Page 103

Diana · 10-31-2007, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

I gotta weigh in on the flu shot thing. A few years ago the flu shot vaccine was made with live, but weakened strains of the flu virus and did make some people sick for a couple of days versus a week to 10 days with the full-blown bug.

For the last several years flu vaccinations have been made with dead virus strains that absolutely cannot make you sick, yet people continue to think they can get the flu from the vaccination. (I hope Tippy is ready for this next sentence) The people who get flu-like symptoms from taking a flu shot now are suffering from a psychosomatic illness. (That mean's it's all in their imagination, Tippy

)

As for the dangers of vaccinations in general, I don't know. I guess there are good and bad ones. I usually take a flu shot if I think of it. It's not a big deal to me one way or the other.

Yes, you can get the flu from the shot! I've heard of it and seen it. The flu vacine not only contains nasty hemicals, but it is made from the Virus it'self, similar to the Chicken Pox Vacine!

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Originally Posted by SMP

So now I'm pyscho, eh?

I don't know whether or not the Canadian flu shot is the same as the attenuated American one, but there is a simple explanation why people still get the flu. Vaccinations lower your overall immunity; so if you were already exposed and successfully resisting different viruses, anything that lowers your immunity even temporarily can let the beasties grab hold. And when I got the flu after the flu shot, others came down with it as well. Man, that's some POWERFUL pyschosomatic fallout if unvaccinated people can catch it!!!

Yes, there are several I'd consider, especially if visiting an area where the various diseases are endemic and frightening. But the roster of vaccines keeps growing and growing, and now the Canadian gov't wants to vaccinate EVERY schoolgirl below Gr 8 for a genital disease that is passed on by sexual adventuring. The chemical soup that passes for blood in kids is a scary indictment of the state of their health and the environment.

I am Psycho too now....I agree 110% with you

Smythe · 10-31-2007, 02:56 AM

I recently got my mom a flu shot...but she is 83 yrs old with COPD and recently had a heart attack!

. I won't have my daughter get the HPV vaccine...yet marketing being what it is she wants to be "one less". My children were all vaccinated. My 22 year old son is on the autism spectrum..but we're lucky. He has improved over the years!!

gibster · 10-31-2007, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SMP

When I was a caregiver for my elderly in-laws, I got a flu shot for their sakes. Now that dh and I are the elderly ones, I have rejected the flu shot. Hubby can do as he pleases, although the doctor is leaning on us both - again! - to have one. Last year, I finally gave in, had the flu off and on for weeks afterwards. I've had it already this fall; so what's the sense of the shot? I am still debating the lifetime Viral Pneumonia vaccine - do I want to live out my days in a nursing home as a near-vegetable, or would I (in my right mind) and my family be grateful for a quicker release from pneumonia?

I was scheduled to get a flu shot at work yesterday, but I decided against it. I guess I signed up in a moment of weakness, remembering that I got the flu 2 years ago. I came to my senses just in time!

mrsmenopausal · 10-31-2007, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MorganMacLeoid

Not offended at all... and I really understand what you're saying.. I do.

I'm just one of those "what if and if only" people and I have a hard time letting some things go, yanno? (Like.. Kimmer for instance, lol).

But I do try to use the emotions to my advantage, turning into outrage and then into action. Advocacy, lots of hard work with my son, even a trip to DC to meet with some Congressman last year about it. Being productive keeps me ahead of the depression curve, I suppose, heh.

Thank you for your post..

It's wonderful of you to do this.

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Originally Posted by SMP

now the Canadian gov't wants to vaccinate EVERY schoolgirl below Gr 8 for a genital disease that is passed on by sexual adventuring. The chemical soup that passes for blood in kids is a scary indictment of the state of their health and the environment.

My daughter will not be getting that shot.

En1Gma · 10-31-2007, 04:44 AM

hey guys

Im a long time lurker but I think this is my first time posting.

I enjoy this website and been following the kimkins thing since May but I had to chime in about the anti-vaccine and flu shot thing.

With any medicine there does come a risk. However, the benefits for a series of vaccinations for your baby/toddler far outweigh the risks. The same goes for a flu shot. I cant believe so many people are so against the flu shot. The needle version contains a dead virus so if you got the full fledge flu right after a shot then it was just a coincidence that you got the shot during the same time you had already contracted the flu. All a dead virus does is build up your white blood cells to combat the already dead virus.

It doesn't necessarily mean you still will not get it because the strand of the flu may be different than expected, but 95% of the time I get the shot, I dont get the flu. Whenever I dont get the shot I ALWAYS get the flu.

The nasal flu vaccine will give you a cold or a very mild form of the flu since it does contains a weak live virus. Also, many of you guys talk about the nasty chemicals in a flu shot. Here are the chemicals:

Haemophilus influenza Type B,
polyribosylribitol phosphate ammonium sulfate,
formalin, and sucrose

There's more nasty chemicals in a bowl of generic ice cream than the flu shot!! Basically, if you're allerigic to eggs to get it.

But I still cannot understand why you wouldnt want to vaccinate your children against the measles, mumps, etc. Sure, there are some risks. Just like some of you taking birth control. The risks in birth control are FAR MORE deadlier than the vaccines. Read the warning label on a birth control pill.

BTW, thanks for listening!

This time · 10-31-2007, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by anipomoni

Sorry for the OT!
I go to a holistic doctor, and I don't get the flu vaccine. That being said, my great grandfather lost his leg as a small child b/c of polio. I'm sure he would have taken a vaccine if there was one.
People who are adamantly opposed to all vaccines scare me with their lack of knowledge on epidemiological issues. I'm not surprised, as they are so complex, but too little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

My sister in law is a dentist who does various fillings, including mercury amalgam. I've asked her about the mercury issue and she said there has been no evidence that they are dangerous. I know if she thought there was any issue whatsoever she would point us (her family) to other options. I have more fillings that anyone I know. Ever since I was a child, I've had the most horrible teeth. I just did a heavy metal test and was really expecting high mercury levels...I was surprised to find that that's not the case at all.

No offense, but I have to take eveything a chiro says with a grain of salt. Sort of like everything Tom Cruise says

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(for those that don't know, many many chiropracters are scientologists)

This time · 10-31-2007, 05:11 AM

No offense to anyone....but you can't get the flu from a flu shot. Ask any doctor. You might get a small reaction that feels like the flu, but it is not the flu.

centralpa · 10-31-2007, 05:16 AM

Hi En1Gma,

Thanks for the voice of reason & your knowledge ...

Welcome to LCFs!!! Come out of lurkdom & post more often, 'kay?

cheers,
Wendy

GypsyVisions · 10-31-2007, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MorganMacLeoid

Even though its OT, I really wanted to reply to this. It's such a huge personal thing for me.

*snip*

susique333 · 10-31-2007, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by This time

No offense to anyone....but you can't get the flu from a flu shot. Ask any doctor. You might get a small reaction that feels like the flu, but it is not the flu.

My dad fainted 3 times in one week after his last flu shot. He was taken to the ER and guess what they said? "Severe reaction to the flu shot" which was noted in his charts. My dad has never fainted prior to this. He said his elbow joints were so stiff that he couldnt bring a cup of coffee up to his lips. It almost seemed like an auto-immune response to me. There HAS GOT TO BE something to the claims that the flu shot can MAKE you sick, so many people talk about...I dont care what the ingredients are.

This time · 10-31-2007, 05:26 AM

Well everybody,tomorrow is kimmer and judgement day. I can't wait!!

This time · 10-31-2007, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by susique333

My dad fainted 3 times in one week after his last flu shot. He was taken to the ER and guess what they said? "Severe reaction to the flu shot" which was noted in his charts. My dad has never fainted prior to this. He said his elbow joints were so stiff that he couldnt bring a cup of coffee up to his lips. It almost seemed like an auto-immune response to me. There HAS GOT TO BE something to the claims that the flu shot can MAKE you sick, so many people talk about...I dont care what the ingredients are.

I'm sorry about your father.

A lot of people have strong feelings against it or for it, lets hope everyone is well this winter.

FaithM. · 10-31-2007, 06:09 AM

It is obvious to me I am way behind by the Betty Boop avi's!

I am suddenly feeling like my Duck O'lantern is SO yesterday.

This time · 10-31-2007, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FaithM.

It is obvious to me I am way behind by the Betty Boop avi's!

I am suddenly feeling like my Duck O'lantern is SO yesterday.

I love your Duck O'lantern, and by the way Happy Halloween everyone

Violet Skye · 10-31-2007, 06:31 AM

Tomorrow the Duck O'Lantern will be yesterday's news. For today, let's par-tay!

(I have my Kimmer-It's-A-November-to-Remember-Because-You're-Under-Oath avi planned!)

FaithM. · 10-31-2007, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by This time

I love your Duck O'lantern, and by the way Happy Halloween everyone

Aww, thanks This time!

Too bad Halloween is about over and I'll have to retire her. Maybe I should start looking for a "Turkey" Duck.

This time · 10-31-2007, 06:39 AM

Hi Violet Skye...I live outside of montreal, in chateauguay.. we are almost the only matzo ball eaters here. Linda, oy vay.

FaithM. · 10-31-2007, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Violet Skye

Tomorrow the Duck O'Lantern will be yesterday's news. For today, let's par-tay!

(I have my Kimmer-It's-A-November-to-Remember-Because-You're-Under-Oath avi planned!)

Coolio!

I can't wait to see it!

Violet Skye · 10-31-2007, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by This time

Hi Violet Skye...I live outside of montreal, in chateauguay.. we are almost the only matzo ball eaters here. Linda, oy vay.

Chateauguay? You're that much closer to Plattsburgh, and I've made my Passover order a few times at Price Chopper. I know a couple of Jewish people on the South Shore - if you go to the South Shore Jewish Community Centre/shul, you probably know them....

xf89 · 10-31-2007, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by En1Gma

hey guys

Im a long time lurker but I think this is my first time posting.

Madam De Leon · 10-31-2007, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by FaithM.

Aww, thanks This time!

Too bad Halloween is about over and I'll have to retire her. Maybe I should start looking for a "Turkey" Duck.

How about a Turducken?

This time · 10-31-2007, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Violet Skye

Chateauguay? You're that much closer to Plattsburgh, and I've made my Passover order a few times at Price Chopper. I know a couple of Jewish people on the South Shore - if you go to the South Shore Jewish Community Centre/shul, you probably know them....

I love Price Chopper and the new super walmart, No, no Centre/shul here, maybe someday.

MY cousin lives in Plattsburg, I wish i did ,i just love the mountains.

Chelveston · 10-31-2007, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by This time

Well everybody,tomorrow is kimmer and judgement day. I can't wait!!

That means that today is the last banning day before Deposition Day! Where did the time go?

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Originally Posted by Violet Skye

Tomorrow the Duck O'Lantern will be yesterday's news. For today, let's par-tay!

(I have my Kimmer-It's-A-November-to-Remember-Because-You're-Under-Oath avi planned!)

Now, I have to go avator shopping!

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Originally Posted by Diana

It's a Beautiful day in the neighborhood....

Yes it is!

Have a great day, folks!

Mommy2Many · 10-31-2007, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CJane

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I home school, but when my middle child wanted to go to public school and wasn't up on her inoculations I had to tell her forget it, she was going to be home schooled...there's no way out of it here that I know of, at least we weren't offered any options for not having them for religious reasons...

They never offer it to you - I taught in the PS for 10 years before I started homeschooling. But if you let me know where you're at, I can probably find for you how to get out of it - if #2 wants to PS in the future.

That said, there's a reason that I gave up a decent salary in a job that I love to stay home and pay to educate my own kids.

Steph

10-31-2007, 02:56 AM	#3062
Smythe MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New York Posts: 2,727 Gallery: Smythe Stats: here we go again 10/8/4-6 WOE: Atkins Start Date: August 2004 Goal Nov 2005 reinducting 1/2008	I recently got my mom a flu shot...but she is 83 yrs old with COPD and recently had a heart attack!. I won't have my daughter get the HPV vaccine...yet marketing being what it is she wants to be "one less". My children were all vaccinated. My 22 year old son is on the autism spectrum..but we're lucky. He has improved over the years!!

10-31-2007, 05:11 AM	#3067
This time Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: canada Posts: 779 Gallery: This time WOE: WW/my way	No offense to anyone....but you can't get the flu from a flu shot. Ask any doctor. You might get a small reaction that feels like the flu, but it is not the flu. Last edited by This time : 10-31-2007 at 05:15 AM.

10-31-2007, 06:39 AM	#3077
This time Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: canada Posts: 779 Gallery: This time WOE: WW/my way	Hi Violet Skye...I live outside of montreal, in chateauguay.. we are almost the only matzo ball eaters here. Linda, oy vay. Last edited by This time : 10-31-2007 at 06:40 AM.

10-31-2007, 04:44 AM	#3065
En1Gma Junior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1 Gallery: En1Gma	hey guys Im a long time lurker but I think this is my first time posting. I enjoy this website and been following the kimkins thing since May but I had to chime in about the anti-vaccine and flu shot thing. With any medicine there does come a risk. However, the benefits for a series of vaccinations for your baby/toddler far outweigh the risks. The same goes for a flu shot. I cant believe so many people are so against the flu shot. The needle version contains a dead virus so if you got the full fledge flu right after a shot then it was just a coincidence that you got the shot during the same time you had already contracted the flu. All a dead virus does is build up your white blood cells to combat the already dead virus. It doesn't necessarily mean you still will not get it because the strand of the flu may be different than expected, but 95% of the time I get the shot, I dont get the flu. Whenever I dont get the shot I ALWAYS get the flu. The nasal flu vaccine will give you a cold or a very mild form of the flu since it does contains a weak live virus. Also, many of you guys talk about the nasty chemicals in a flu shot. Here are the chemicals: Haemophilus influenza Type B, polyribosylribitol phosphate ammonium sulfate, formalin, and sucrose There's more nasty chemicals in a bowl of generic ice cream than the flu shot!! Basically, if you're allerigic to eggs to get it. But I still cannot understand why you wouldnt want to vaccinate your children against the measles, mumps, etc. Sure, there are some risks. Just like some of you taking birth control. The risks in birth control are FAR MORE deadlier than the vaccines. Read the warning label on a birth control pill. BTW, thanks for listening!

10-31-2007, 05:16 AM	#3068
centralpa Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: upstate NY Posts: 3,151 Gallery: centralpa	Hi En1Gma, Thanks for the voice of reason & your knowledge ... Welcome to LCFs!!! Come out of lurkdom & post more often, 'kay? cheers, Wendy

10-31-2007, 05:26 AM	#3071
This time Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: canada Posts: 779 Gallery: This time WOE: WW/my way	Well everybody,tomorrow is kimmer and judgement day. I can't wait!!

10-31-2007, 06:09 AM	#3073
FaithM. MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central Texas Posts: 1,952 Gallery: FaithM. WOE: Basic LC Start Date: 1/10/06	It is obvious to me I am way behind by the Betty Boop avi's! I am suddenly feeling like my Duck O'lantern is SO yesterday.

10-31-2007, 06:31 AM	#3075
Violet Skye MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Montreal Posts: 2,040 Gallery: Violet Skye Stats: Goal+75/Goal+70!/Goal WOE: Crack the Fat Code Start Date: July 21, 2008	Tomorrow the Duck O'Lantern will be yesterday's news. For today, let's par-tay! (I have my Kimmer-It's-A-November-to-Remember-Because-You're-Under-Oath avi planned!)