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Old 10-30-2007, 07:06 PM   #3031
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:08 PM   #3032
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AS IF IT COULD NOT GET ANY MORE ODD!!!!
FITNESS GURU HAS A TWIN BROTHER !!!

Not only that but he has two older brothers that are twins as well!


How can this whole kimkins saga get any more weird??? I mean what are the chances?


ETA- No JOKE REALLY-In Fitness Guru's Alumni information-
"parents are Kxxxx and xxxx Clark....major is history, minor is coaching...has a twin brother and two older brothers who are also twins"
Wow! LOL. That's wild.

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Who ever said that Dr. Mark or Nick were the new "owners" or "management"?
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Well, Brandon reportedly went to the AG's in Cali to make a statement some time ago, so it is possible that he will come forward and at least defend himself. Then again, I could be wrong. I am unsure about whether or not Heidi will actually show up to give her deposition. Time will tell, and fortunately for us, we'll find out this week.
He went without being called in? WOW!

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Well I guess Tippy had her cup of morning coffee and read the thread...hee hee
At Kimkins posted by TT-
Bahahhahaha!!! Yeah, I buy that.
She's unreal.
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I can't help it:

http://www.homestead.com/flowstate/files/spartacus.gif

No-- I'm Spartacus,
uhm, I mean Kimmer,
I mean, Heidi,
I mean---AMY!!!



ps--I think the pic is animated.... oops---I deleted it because the last word was nasty--
I just left the link to the gif..
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Well, true to my apprehensions and given my reading of her intelligence, Heidi DID do a flit and only in the last couple of days was discovered. Those watching her were either falling down on the job, or more likely, Heidi had taken my (free) advice to do a midnight flight with an undisclosed vehicle. Whew, at least my powers of deduction haven't been THAT far out of whack! Hey, Honeybee, our "what-ifs" have great persuasive power, right?
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I looked also and I didn't see anything that looked off...
Look at this screen shot would you? Terry (magicmom) and I both show that it has been reformatted -like this screen shot I just did of the polar watch thread..
Does it not show this way for you too?
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:38 PM   #3035
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I can't help it:
No-- I'm Spartacus,
uhm, I mean Kimmer,
I mean, Heidi,
I mean---AMY!!!



ps--I think the pic is animated.... oops---I deleted it because the last word was nasty--
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I thought that was DUCKY!!!
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No interest in the FG? Seemed to me there were all kinds of questions every day!!
She has to make up something. I mean, what is she going to say, FG was too healthy, we banned him?

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Gee, can we ban you for being a bit rude? Feathers ruffled there...
How much must it stink to be TT?
There she was wanting so badly (from what I've read on the the boards) to be in charge, have some authority, be looked up to, be better than others. She gets a position that should have lead to a good deal of that but turned out to be merely a low paying cleaning job for a con artist who's whistling while she flushes TT's rep and credibility right down the toilet.
Kind of poetic, don't you think?

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Maybe someone should alert the poster to the class action lawsuit already in "our regular scheduled program"
Oh yeah!! I doubt she'll get what she's after but I loved reading that.

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look at this!!! Congrats to the girl!


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Oh Tippy... must you let that Admin name go to your head... really girl, your not God. She thinks people don't see these posts before she deletes them!
Have I ever mentioned TT is not someone I'd like to know in person? I have? Oh well, what's one more time?

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I didn't realize that I needed to ask questions to have an interest in this. The thread I really liked was one that did not require anything but reading, no replies - the one where he posted a different exercise every so often.

I have been very careful with my posting the last few weeks, it unfortunately feels like walking on eggshells, there is a reason I haven't posted much recently. I see this thread is no different. Do we actually have to be concerned now that you are going to tally how many times we do or don't post in any given thread?

Edited to add: I have reread my posts on this thread, and I do not believe I was rude, or sarcastic, or negative. I made a legitimate and heartfelt comment to the thread. I am not a member of any of the "other" forums, nor have I ever posted at any of them. I am not the "enemy." I don't understand why there can be no dialogue on or questions about issues that arise on this forum. Is it too much to ask to be addressed in a polite manner, without feeling shut down?"
YGG!!
TT sure has made it clear to all what she's really made of, hasn't she? It's almost embarrassing to watch but I'll suffer through.
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Look at this screen shot would you? Terry (magicmom) and I both show that it has been reformatted -like this screen shot I just did of the polar watch thread..Does it not show this way for you too?
That is exactly how I saw it. The text was running off the right side of the screen, and you couldn't read it all without scrolling over.
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The gov't issues warnings against eating fish with high levels of mercury; yet vaccine makers have ignored federal guidelines to phase the mercury out of childhood vaccines. I never let my kids get vaccinations till they made it mandatory to enter school - and then I made sure the kids weren't infants. In our family history, the vaccinated seem to get sick from various ailments quicker, while the unvaccinated did not. Nor have the vaccine companies proven conclusively that autism and vaccinations are not related. I prefer to take my chances on many diseases.
Even though its OT, I really wanted to reply to this. It's such a huge personal thing for me.

Mods, please indulge me and I promise to stay on topic forever! heh.

My son was born and was perfectly normal. Started babbling almost from the get go. He was engaging, he'd stare into your eyes and babble so animatedly, that we called it his "Storytelling". He was saying a good number of words by his first birthday and had met or exceeded all of the normal milestones for his age group.

Then at his 1 year check up he got the "big" shots.

That night he started a fever and was acting lethargic and very quiet. I called the Dr. and they said "oh its a reaction, give him some tylenol and he'll be ok in a few days", so, I did.

Few days later, he's still sitting on the floor staring at the TV, almost unresponsive to anything. Didn't want to eat, didn't talk, didn't say Mamma or baba or anything.. not one word for days. I took him to the ER, because his ped thought it was just "a reaction from the vaccines".

The ER ped did a few tests and tried talking to him and asked me how long he'd been autistic.

It was two years to the day after that visit to the ER that he finally said "I love you Momma". (He was three years and 6 days old).

He has incredibly high levels of mercury in his brain. His body could not process the thimerasol in the vaccines, the MMR being the worst for thimerasol content. (modern mercury derivative - just a preservative, not even a necessary part of the vaccine). They have considered chelation therapy, which could do far more harm than good.

20 years ago, 1 in 20,000 children developed Autism. Now, 1 in 150. What's changed? Oh yeah, thimerasol.

There are PLENTY of medical studies that show the connection to mercury and autism - though most of them are from other countries. The few studies done here were funded by the CDC and pharm companies themselves, so their bias is too strong. I've been working with a doctor in Germany who has completed a 3 year study confirming the connection and is currently trying to get a visa to the US to lecture about the dangers of this preservative.

I am part of several class action lawsuits against the pharmaceutical companies - not that I ever expect to get anywhere, but I want to be involved.

Now, that all said, not all children develop autism only from mercury poisoning and vaccinations. Some genetic combinations make children more predisposed to the danger and some children develop forms of Autism that are not mercury related at all.

It kills me sometimes to think that I did this to him. I trusted the doctor and got those vaccines, because that's what GOOD parents do, right?

If I had said no.. he'd be "fine" or "normal". The bottom line is that it IS my fault because I didn't do any research on these drugs before I allowed my child to be pumped full of them. I had no idea. (But I should have known.. the father of my son had 2 children from a previous marriage.. one of them was Autistic as well.. I knew about it.. should have read about it.)

I know how guilty I will feel for the rest of my life.. and woe to the pharmaceutical salesman that crosses my path one day.

1 in 150 kids will develop Autism. A large percentage of those children will develop Autism simply from the *preservative* used by the pharm companies to increase the shelf life of the vaccines they create. It doesn't need to be in there, but it increases their profit margin.

Yeah, Kimmer makes me sick, but some things make me sicker.

Vent over.. thanks for letting me share that.. its hard to talk about and who knows, maybe someone will read it and not have to feel what I feel now.
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Sound like you made an excellent choice - sorry dh could not go with you though - you have a wonderful family !

I've really never done anything with just the egg white unless it involved a dessert
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Morgan I am so sorry for your child my nephew is autistic as well and he is 4 but he cannot speak so I feel for you. God Bless but yes if this is something being hidden by the govt and pharmeceutical companies that is a million times worse than Kimkins. At least we all can switch diets . Thanks for venting Tina
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Remember -- flu shots are a tool to protect us from the flu. Not the 2 or 3 or 5 day fever, body aches, throwing up where we miss a week of work. It's influenza that we're worried about - the one that kills people.

I get the flu shot since 1) the less I get the flu over my lifetime, the longer I'll probably live, and 2) my very elderly parents would NOT EVER survive influenza at this stage of their lives and I will do everything in my power to make their exposure as little as possible. Yes, they get the shot, too.
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It would make sense that anyone with relevant information would be deposed. Tippy, pack your bags. You're going on a road trip!
...oh, and with the price of gas these days!

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Thanks Terry - I mean Amy !
Maybe Tipsy will get travel money from the K for her HB too !
Maybe they can bring the big grill and have a KK get together near the court house.

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Even though its OT, I really wanted to reply to this. It's such a huge personal thing for me.

Mods, please indulge me and I promise to stay on topic forever! heh.

My son was born and was perfectly normal.
Morgan, I'm sorry you had to go through that. You did what you thought was best at the time. Reading Taubes book, which explains that public health decisions are often made against the evidence, I'm glad that we can choose our vaccines.

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Even though its OT, I really wanted to reply to this. It's such a huge personal thing for me.

Mods, please indulge me and I promise to stay on topic forever! heh.

My son was born and was perfectly normal. Started babbling almost from the get go. He was engaging, he'd stare into your eyes and babble so animatedly, that we called it his "Storytelling". He was saying a good number of words by his first birthday and had met or exceeded all of the normal milestones for his age group.

Then at his 1 year check up he got the "big" shots.

That night he started a fever and was acting lethargic and very quiet. I called the Dr. and they said "oh its a reaction, give him some tylenol and he'll be ok in a few days", so, I did.

Few days later, he's still sitting on the floor staring at the TV, almost unresponsive to anything. Didn't want to eat, didn't talk, didn't say Mamma or baba or anything.. not one word for days. I took him to the ER, because his ped thought it was just "a reaction from the vaccines".

The ER ped did a few tests and tried talking to him and asked me how long he'd been autistic.

It was two years to the day after that visit to the ER that he finally said "I love you Momma". (He was three years and 6 days old).

He has incredibly high levels of mercury in his brain. His body could not process the thimerasol in the vaccines, the MMR being the worst for thimerasol content. (modern mercury derivative - just a preservative, not even a necessary part of the vaccine). They have considered chelation therapy, which could do far more harm than good.

20 years ago, 1 in 20,000 children developed Autism. Now, 1 in 150. What's changed? Oh yeah, thimerasol.

There are PLENTY of medical studies that show the connection to mercury and autism - though most of them are from other countries. The few studies done here were funded by the CDC and pharm companies themselves, so their bias is too strong. I've been working with a doctor in Germany who has completed a 3 year study confirming the connection and is currently trying to get a visa to the US to lecture about the dangers of this preservative.

I am part of several class action lawsuits against the pharmaceutical companies - not that I ever expect to get anywhere, but I want to be involved.

Now, that all said, not all children develop autism only from mercury poisoning and vaccinations. Some genetic combinations make children more predisposed to the danger and some children develop forms of Autism that are not mercury related at all.

It kills me sometimes to think that I did this to him. I trusted the doctor and got those vaccines, because that's what GOOD parents do, right?

If I had said no.. he'd be "fine" or "normal". The bottom line is that it IS my fault because I didn't do any research on these drugs before I allowed my child to be pumped full of them. I had no idea. (But I should have known.. the father of my son had 2 children from a previous marriage.. one of them was Autistic as well.. I knew about it.. should have read about it.)

I know how guilty I will feel for the rest of my life.. and woe to the pharmaceutical salesman that crosses my path one day.

1 in 150 kids will develop Autism. A large percentage of those children will develop Autism simply from the *preservative* used by the pharm companies to increase the shelf life of the vaccines they create. It doesn't need to be in there, but it increases their profit margin.

Yeah, Kimmer makes me sick, but some things make me sicker.

Vent over.. thanks for letting me share that.. its hard to talk about and who knows, maybe someone will read it and not have to feel what I feel now.
{{{{{{{{}}}}}}}}}} I'm so sorry this happened to you and your son. I wish you didn't see it as your fault. We can't know everything. We can't research everything. It isn't until we get some bit of information or suspect there's a need to look deeper that we do. I can remember after my 3rd child was born (firsts born were my twin boys) that I saw a report on tv about possible dangers with the DTP vaccine. It really had to do with lot numbers and the pertussis part of the shot. I wrote those lot numbers down and carried them in my purse. I was so afraid for my twins having already had them and scared because my 3rd son had already had one and was in line to get more. Home computers weren't in the picture back then so I read what I could and said no to the pertussis part of the vaccine and requested the others be split into half doses, spread apart. I had to have a reason for that (if I had a choice to simply refuse I was not aware of it). My husband's family is prone to convulsions and that was the reason I used. That's about the scope of info that was out then. I did the same with my daughter that came next. Now there's so much information available and computers in homes to search even more. With all I've read online I'm now even concerned about vaccinating my pets. Years ago there was no concern for pets being harmed by vaccinations by anyone I knew and I certainly wasn't concerned about it.
I think that the majority of parents would change a good deal of the choices they've made in the past because of the information they now have. I know I would. As parents we do the best that we can do with what we know at the time.
I really didn't want to let this post go by without commenting because I really feel for you and I hope I haven't offended you in anyway by anything I've said. I'm just so sorry for what you're all going through.
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I really didn't want to let this post go by without commenting because I really feel for you and I hope I haven't offended you in anyway by anything I've said. I'm just so sorry for what you're all going through.
Not offended at all... and I really understand what you're saying.. I do. I'm just one of those "what if and if only" people and I have a hard time letting some things go, yanno? (Like.. Kimmer for instance, lol).

But I do try to use the emotions to my advantage, turning into outrage and then into action. Advocacy, lots of hard work with my son, even a trip to DC to meet with some Congressman last year about it. Being productive keeps me ahead of the depression curve, I suppose, heh.

Thank you for your post..
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Not offended at all... and I really understand what you're saying.. I do. I'm just one of those "what if and if only" people and I have a hard time letting some things go, yanno? (Like.. Kimmer for instance, lol).
Easy to say, but you did what you thought was right at the time.

Dd#1 had a reaction to her second set of vaccines. We were given the tylenol advice, and I didn't even realize at the time how bad things could get.

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But I do try to use the emotions to my advantage, turning into outrage and then into action. Advocacy, lots of hard work with my son, even a trip to DC to meet with some Congressman last year about it. Being productive keeps me ahead of the depression curve, I suppose, heh.
Thank you for your advocacy work.
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Even though its OT, I really wanted to reply to this. It's such a huge personal thing for me.

Mods, please indulge me and I promise to stay on topic forever! heh.

My son was born and was perfectly normal. Started babbling almost from the get go. He was engaging, he'd stare into your eyes and babble so animatedly, that we called it his "Storytelling". He was saying a good number of words by his first birthday and had met or exceeded all of the normal milestones for his age group.

Then at his 1 year check up he got the "big" shots.

That night he started a fever and was acting lethargic and very quiet. I called the Dr. and they said "oh its a reaction, give him some tylenol and he'll be ok in a few days", so, I did.

Few days later, he's still sitting on the floor staring at the TV, almost unresponsive to anything. Didn't want to eat, didn't talk, didn't say Mamma or baba or anything.. not one word for days. I took him to the ER, because his ped thought it was just "a reaction from the vaccines".

The ER ped did a few tests and tried talking to him and asked me how long he'd been autistic.

It was two years to the day after that visit to the ER that he finally said "I love you Momma". (He was three years and 6 days old).

He has incredibly high levels of mercury in his brain. His body could not process the thimerasol in the vaccines, the MMR being the worst for thimerasol content. (modern mercury derivative - just a preservative, not even a necessary part of the vaccine). They have considered chelation therapy, which could do far more harm than good.

20 years ago, 1 in 20,000 children developed Autism. Now, 1 in 150. What's changed? Oh yeah, thimerasol.

There are PLENTY of medical studies that show the connection to mercury and autism - though most of them are from other countries. The few studies done here were funded by the CDC and pharm companies themselves, so their bias is too strong. I've been working with a doctor in Germany who has completed a 3 year study confirming the connection and is currently trying to get a visa to the US to lecture about the dangers of this preservative.

I am part of several class action lawsuits against the pharmaceutical companies - not that I ever expect to get anywhere, but I want to be involved.

Now, that all said, not all children develop autism only from mercury poisoning and vaccinations. Some genetic combinations make children more predisposed to the danger and some children develop forms of Autism that are not mercury related at all.

It kills me sometimes to think that I did this to him. I trusted the doctor and got those vaccines, because that's what GOOD parents do, right?

If I had said no.. he'd be "fine" or "normal". The bottom line is that it IS my fault because I didn't do any research on these drugs before I allowed my child to be pumped full of them. I had no idea. (But I should have known.. the father of my son had 2 children from a previous marriage.. one of them was Autistic as well.. I knew about it.. should have read about it.)

I know how guilty I will feel for the rest of my life.. and woe to the pharmaceutical salesman that crosses my path one day.

1 in 150 kids will develop Autism. A large percentage of those children will develop Autism simply from the *preservative* used by the pharm companies to increase the shelf life of the vaccines they create. It doesn't need to be in there, but it increases their profit margin.

Yeah, Kimmer makes me sick, but some things make me sicker.

Vent over.. thanks for letting me share that.. its hard to talk about and who knows, maybe someone will read it and not have to feel what I feel now.
I had to reply. I don't know what to say, but to you and your son!
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Morgan I'm so sorry about what happened to your son! I don't have children, so I've never done much research on it, but had heard about the link between autism and immunizations. I hope you get somewhere with the class action suits - at least to force the pharmaceutical companies to take that ingredient out of the shots. I don't know why they are allowed to make dangerous vaccines.

Although I don't have children, I do have two cats and because they stay indoors and are not exposed to other animals, I do not immunize them. I just don't think they need it, and so far I haven't had any vets push me back on the issue.
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