Why the fascination with Kimmer? #7 - Page 94

CJane · 10-14-2007, 03:18 PM

I'm not sure it really matters how "dr." mark became associated with KK, does it? As far as I can tell he's just an acupuncturist who has misrepresented himself as something more than he is, and he doesn't even know his patootie from a hole in the ground. We all know there is no way on God's green earth that KK could ever get anyone reputable to stand behind this WOE...and even though I don't believe this acupuncturist to be of good repute, he hasn't even recommended foods that KK would allow, even with the revisions (as far as I can tell).

If it were me I wouldn't waste my time looking for the way he became associated with KK...all that matters is he has chosen to ally himself with a known scam/scammer, has ignored the facts and warnings from others about this situation, and that tells everyone all we need to know about him.

susyhammer · 10-14-2007, 03:20 PM

This is a question about the searches for the fake before and after pictures. (Great job everyone! I’m so jealous.)

I was working on some graphics today – doing my right-click, save-as routine – and wondered if the filenames of the fake photos might have any significance. (Often when people copy and paste pictures from the Internet they don’t bother changing the filename but just plop the picture "as is" right into what they’re working on.)

I went quickly to the fraudulent photos blog and looked at one or two of the filenames – they seem have some differing naming conventions. Could the photos be traced from these names? I remember that Blue Sapphire actually has some sort of code next to the person’s name…

Or did you (HoneyBee) change the filename yourself when you placed the photos in the blogs? If so, ignore this dumb post!

I’m in the middle of a deadline and can’t investigate this (although I’d love to!) but wondered if someone else might care to take a look.

Hope this isn’t clear as mud. In a rush….
Susy

MJR · 10-14-2007, 03:23 PM

A few days ago, someone posted a Mark Brinson with a Zepherhills address. Was it ever determined that this was the same Mark Brinson? The reason I ask... is that I live close to Zepherhills and know that this is a VERY SMALL Town! I can't imagine that Tippy and Dr Mark could live in this town and Not Know Each Other. Almost impossible IMHO.

HoneyBee2 · 10-14-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JustKim

Thanks Honeybee!

The one screen I am thinking of is where he had the different certifications listed. It said "certified personal trainer" and under that is stated CHEK it did not at the time, mention the second affiliation (which I still haven't found) This was in the same area of the screen where he liste the "certified neuromuscular therapist" etc.

he did change the "additionology" to addictionology on that page too

I respectfully disagree with you on this issue Kim.
Could it be possible that you are confusing what was written on KIMKINS with what was on his WEBSITE?
I ask because I did not see the term addictionology misspelled on his WEBSITE, however I did note it on the posts about him at KIMKINS. I even commented about it in a post here- link to post

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This was in his post on Kimkins discussing his background and the type of doc he was........
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As a primary care physician, my license covers everything except pre_script_ion drugs and surgery. Including, but not limited to, all physical medicine, rehabilitation, internal medicine, acupuncture, imaging and labs, injection of natural substances, nutrition and life_style_ counseling, additionology, herbology and medicinal meal (1000 hours) etc. etc. etc.....

First- WTH is additionlogy? The study of how to add!!! COME ON now what type of spelling is that where you don't even correct something like that?!?!?
Second- He mentions his license covers internal medicine and imaging/labs.
That makes the UA slip up very disturbing.
Third- I bet he is going to pimp his herbal product or herbal injections to members and Kimmer gave him the option of having a store front connected to the site like she did with Becky!

Then a member replies that they noted the correct spelling on his WEBSITEl..Here is the link

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Additionology.... a misspelling, I think. On his website, he lists his credentials in "Addictionolgy".... a lofty term for treatment of substance abuse.

I did find the specific page you were in doubt of on google's cached files and they are from Oct.9th, 2007 and the certified personal trainer and addictionolgy read the same now as then on the oct 9th cached file.
MARK T. BRINSON - Doctor of Oriental Medicine's Biography Page

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Certified Personal Trainer
Currently working on CHEK and NSCC

Certified Addictionology
250 hours

Kim, here again I think you are very valid in your doubts in Dr. Mark Brinson and he should be brought to the attention of the boards that regulate his license for false misrepresentations of himself. I also question his knowledge on the subjects he is asked to advise on while at Kimkins. You have my support on that subject 100% and I have actively taken action on this as well.
Now with that all being said I don't think he changed his website SINCE he came onto the Kimkins scene based on the copies I have and the researching I have done thus far.

__________________

HoneyBee2 · 10-14-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by susyhammer

This is a question about the searches for the fake before and after pictures. (Great job everyone! I’m so jealous.)

I was working on some graphics today – doing my right-click, save-as routine – and wondered if the filenames of the fake photos might have any significance. (Often when people copy and paste pictures from the Internet they don’t bother changing the filename but just plop the picture "as is" right into what they’re working on.)

I went quickly to the fraudulent photos blog and looked at one or two of the filenames – they seem have some differing naming conventions. Could the photos be traced from these names? I remember that Blue Sapphire actually has some sort of code next to the person’s name…

Or did you (HoneyBee) change the filename yourself when you placed the photos in the blogs? If so, ignore this dumb post!

I’m in the middle of a deadline and can’t investigate this (although I’d love to!) but wondered if someone else might care to take a look.

Hope this isn’t clear as mud. In a rush….
Susy

Susy not dumb at all!! You brought up some very good points on viewing the file name and always share because we all have noticed different things during this whole scenario that has helped get the information pulled together.
However, when I posted images for the blog I purposefully took the images from the Kimkins site and downloaded them into tinypics (an online storage).Tiny pics gives the image a name and then I copy the link from them to post on the blog.
I took the images from Kimkins because I wanted to use the images from there in order to avoid my direct copyright violation in getting them from the Russian sites. Make sense?
Because Kimkins had these on a public webpage and they were "supposedly" images shared by the members who had lost weight, so by using them from there I would not be violating any copyrights. However, going and lifting them from the other sites would.
That is why I put the links for individuals to be able to verify that the image was also on the russian sites.
What you are saying does make sense if it is applied to what is on Kimkins site.

I will have to look on the kimkins site and get a copy of how that image reads when the cursor is over the image. bbl

Maid of Erin · 10-14-2007, 03:40 PM

FYI, this is probably nothing...

but I noticed that Dr. Mark's scheduled to give seminars soon in ONLY two locations.

In St. Petersburg (less than 50 miles from Tippy) and one other place....San Diego, CA, which happens to be less than 100 miles away from....Heidi. Does this mean anything, maybe not, but still, hmmmm, very interesting.....

HoneyBee2 · 10-14-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CJane

(snipped)
If it were me I wouldn't waste my time looking for the way he became associated with KK...all that matters is he has chosen to ally himself with a known scam/scammer, has ignored the facts and warnings from others about this situation, and that tells everyone all we need to know about him.

CJane I think the reason of how he got involved with Kimkins was brought up, due to his comments in an direct correspondence with a member here, in part of Dr. Mark's reply in how he didn't know anything about Kimkins PRIOR to his first day on the board. According to the member Dr. Mark stated that he had just answered an Ad regarding the position. I don't have the post in front of me but that is the idea.
Establishing his prior knowledge of kimkins would be helpful in showing he knew exactly what he was getting into, contrary to the statements he is now making.
I also think establishing that he is lying about that now, would help those who are still trying to buy into the fact that he is an innocent and this applies to members here as well as those who have been made aware of this story outside of the board.
He has ignored the warnings and information that he has been provided by concerned individuals. That fact is enough to you, me and many others and that speaks volumes to us on his character, but showing that he is actively covering his knowledge of Kimkins would be helpful in getting others interested in the issue.

Smythe · 10-14-2007, 03:51 PM

Hi guys-
I'm reading about the fund raiser for the foster kids but it seems they might have a loop hole if I'm reading things correctly. It reads as if they were raising $$ for kids who aged out of foster care that Heidi claims were once in her care. Is that the case?? If so I don't know if you can get her or TT on this because it's like giving $$ to needy adults. A very good friend of mine was in a group home as a kid and at age 18 it was Bye Bye..find a place to live. Just a thought. I'd like nothing better than to see this lady's butt in a sling if she misrepresented where that $$ was going. Also, has anyone checked to see if Heidi ever did have foster kids? Maybe I missed that part.
Ok, gonna go back to lurking

Maid of Erin · 10-14-2007, 04:20 PM

Smythe, I was thinking that too. What we could really use are screenshots from the KK site. On this site, TT talks about foster kids a few times but only once about the money going to kids that age out of the system. There are a few times that they are just called foster kids. It would really depend upon how the law is worded, but remember the earlier post stated it was illegal even if the kids weren't real. By stating she was raising funds for 'when' they turned 18, this obviously implies that they are currently minors.

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The California State Ombundsman's Office says there weren't any foster children at the time of the fundraisers -- and the Community Care Licensing office (Virna Wright, contact person) says it's illegal for anyone to take donations for foster children, real OR fake, by actively raising those funds and/or accepting those funds.

Kimmer talked all the time about her 'boys' as if they were currently in her house and mentioned how they had a number of foster children. I was particularly interested in those posts at the time since dh and I have fostered too and ended up adopting those children. I even think I praised her once for taking in teen boys as they are the most difficult kids to find homes for.

Heidi pretending to have foster kids just shows how low she is willing to sink to make a buck.

HoneyBee2 · 10-14-2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Smythe

Hi guys-
I'm reading about the fund raiser for the foster kids but it seems they might have a loop hole if I'm reading things correctly. It reads as if they were raising $$ for kids who aged out of foster care that Heidi claims were once in her care. Is that the case?? If so I don't know if you can get her or TT on this because it's like giving $$ to needy adults. A very good friend of mine was in a group home as a kid and at age 18 it was Bye Bye..find a place to live. Just a thought. I'd like nothing better than to see this lady's butt in a sling if she misrepresented where that $$ was going. Also, has anyone checked to see if Heidi ever did have foster kids? Maybe I missed that part.
Ok, gonna go back to lurking

You missed it...here it is.

The California State Ombundsman's Office says there weren't any foster children at the time of the fundraisers -- and the Community Care Licensing office (Virna Wright, contact person) says it's illegal for anyone to take donations for foster children, real OR fake, by actively raising those funds and/or accepting those funds.
So no kids with her and its illegal for anyone to take donations for foster children.

It has been verified with the children's service in which Heid Diaz resides in by another source as well. Here is a quote from Kimkins dangers- link to blog

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Riverside Co. children's services, this is a quote from her when she returned my call "Your worries of abuse of funds are unfounded as there is no record of funds paid to Ms. [edit] Diaz over the past 7 years."

Since the fundraiser was held in July 2006 then it appears that she had no foster children with her at that time and those that had been under her care would have already left many years prior and the funds to help those turning 18 transition out would not be necessary. This is based on the above information.
Then tippy was quoted here making this post which is odd considering that the fundraiser stated for Kimmers foster kids....not for Kimmer.

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Well, I cannot say what Kimmer did with the money as we all agreed she could do as she saw fit. I cannot say if it went to foster kids or not. However, I would think it did. Because if she makes what everyone says, why would she need to steal a measly couple hundred bucks if she is a millionaire? Again, that is just an assumption. I don't jump to conclusions easily. I cannot tell you Kimmer is Heidi Diaz and has foster kids anymore than I can say she isn't or doesn't. So, yes I organized this fundraiser by creating a weight loss challenge. But, I also collected no money and certainly took no money from it.(snipped)

susique333 · 10-14-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Maid of Erin

Smythe, I was thinking that too. What we could really use are screenshots from the KK site. On this site, TT talks about foster kids a few times but only once about the money going to kids that age out of the system. There are a few times that they are just called foster kids. It would really depend upon how the law is worded, but remember the earlier post stated it was illegal even if the kids weren't real. By stating she was raising funds for 'when' they turned 18, this obviously implies that they are currently minors.

Kimmer talked all the time about her 'boys' as if they were currently in her house and mentioned how they had a number of foster children. I was particularly interested in those posts at the time since dh and I have fostered too and ended up adopting those children. I even think I praised her once for taking in teen boys as they are the most difficult kids to find homes for.

Heidi pretending to have foster kids just shows how low she is willing to sink to make a buck.

If someone could do a 'search' for the words "foster" or "foster kids' or "foster boys" on Kimkims, you will find numerous mentions of her foster boys. I remember one very clearly where she said one of her foster kids had JUST wrecked her car! Early 2007, Jan-March? I am an adoptive mom so when Heidi would mention these things I would perk up. Airing the dirty laundry of foster kids in a public forum isnt cool and I thought so when she mentioned that. It made me antsy.

Katinsac · 10-14-2007, 05:40 PM

who wants the screen shots of Tippy's Kimmer Kids Challange? I have a whole document of it. I do remember reading a thread a while back where she said the paypal didn't work and for them to send checks to Kimmer's brother but that thread is gone...gee, I wonder why. (or I just couldn't find it again...)

Katinsac · 10-14-2007, 05:45 PM

gonna go eat dinner...bbl

HoneyBee2 · 10-14-2007, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Katinsac

who wants the screen shots of Tippy's Kimmer Kids Challange? I have a whole document of it. I do remember reading a thread a while back where she said the paypal didn't work and for them to send checks to Kimmer's brother but that thread is gone...gee, I wonder why. (or I just couldn't find it again...)

It's not gone yet Kat, but they have relocated parts of it and make it difficult to find. Thank you for gathering what you could and sending the information does help.
All screen shots and information can be sent directly to :
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If anyone is interested or has any information regarding the Kimmer's Foster Kid Fundraiser please read the following:
(snipped)
Who to contact:
Michelle Kay
Michelle.Kay~baynews9.com
News desk: 727-329-2400
Toll-free: 888-437-1239
Note: Put in the subject line: Kimkins fundraising scam

Further info:
baynews9.com - Home Page
baynews9.com - Our People: Michelle Kay - Reporter

regandy · 10-14-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Maid of Erin

FYI, this is probably nothing...

but I noticed that Dr. Mark's scheduled to give seminars soon in ONLY two locations.

In St. Petersburg (less than 50 miles from Tippy) and one other place....San Diego, CA, which happens to be less than 100 miles away from....Heidi. Does this mean anything, maybe not, but still, hmmmm, very interesting.....

There ya go! Someone needs to suggest that he MEET The Kimmer for himself while he is in the neighborhood. Perhaps he will get a meeting this time, since Christin didn't. Perhaps ... ya think?

uh.. no.

I also wanted to add that the reason that Kimmer/Heidi didn't know if she could go on the cruise was because of the "boys". She mentioned that it was very difficult to get approved caretakers for that length of time for her to be gone on the cruise, but that she would see what she could do. THEN it changed to the "panic disorder"as the reason it would be hard for her to go. THEN later I saw part of a PM where she told Tippy that she never had any intention of going in the first place.

Katinsac · 10-14-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

It's not gone yet Kat, but they have relocated parts of it and make it difficult to find. Thank you for gathering what you could and sending the information does help.
All screen shots and information can be sent directly to :
--------
If anyone is interested or has any information regarding the Kimmer's Foster Kid Fundraiser please read the following:
(snipped)
Who to contact:
Michelle Kay
Michelle.Kay~baynews9.com
News desk: 727-329-2400
Toll-free: 888-437-1239
Note: Put in the subject line: Kimkins fundraising scam

Further info:
baynews9.com - Home Page
baynews9.com - Our People: Michelle Kay - Reporter

Thanks Honey. Sent her an email to respond to so I could send the document. Do you know if the one with TT saying to send the money elsewhere was found and copied?

Katinsac · 10-14-2007, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by regandy

There ya go! Someone needs to suggest that he MEET The Kimmer for himself while he is in the neighborhood. Perhaps he will get a meeting this time, since Christin didn't. Perhaps ... ya think?

uh.. no.

I also wanted to add that the reason that Kimmer/Heidi didn't know if she could go on the cruise was because of the "boys". She mentioned that it was very difficult to get approved caretakers for that length of time for her to be gone on the cruise, but that she would see what she could do. THEN it changed to the "panic disorder"as the reason it would be hard for her to go. THEN later I saw part of a PM where she told Tippy that she never had any intention of going in the first place.

and we all know the "real" reason now!! lol

Becky...whatcha gonna do if some Kimkins "supporters" show up?

Katinsac · 10-14-2007, 06:32 PM

guess I'll go back and look for the other info again...

WildAngel6 · 10-14-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Yes and thank you for searching for those with the links.

It would be interesting to see the ad and I wonder who would place the ad in the local paper...the new owners? Just thinking out loud, but finding the paper where the ad was placed would be interesting indeed.

Did he say he answered a newspaper ad or did he even specify the format?

He said, "I simply answered an ad for a fitness / wellness expert."

HTH

regandy · 10-14-2007, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Katinsac

and we all know the "real" reason now!! lol

Becky...whatcha gonna do if some Kimkins "supporters" show up?

Everyone who signs up for the cruise has to leave an email contact. I sent out letters to everyone letting them know that it was NOT a kimkins cruise. We had 64 people going... it dropped to 48, but now we are back up to 50. I think that when we get down to the final count in December we will probably have around 60 people. Of the people who had to drop out they all gave legitimate reasons, mostly financial. MANY were relieved to find out that it was not going to be associated with that site anymore. I'm just glad that I put a disclaimer on the posts that basically stated that it was NOT sponsored by or arranged by kimmer or kimkins. Glad that I did!

Jazlyn · 10-14-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by regandy

There ya go! Someone needs to suggest that he MEET The Kimmer for himself while he is in the neighborhood. Perhaps he will get a meeting this time, since Christin didn't. Perhaps ... ya think?

uh.. no.

I also wanted to add that the reason that Kimmer/Heidi didn't know if she could go on the cruise was because of the "boys". She mentioned that it was very difficult to get approved caretakers for that length of time for her to be gone on the cruise, but that she would see what she could do. THEN it changed to the "panic disorder"as the reason it would be hard for her to go. THEN later I saw part of a PM where she told Tippy that she never had any intention of going in the first place.

I also read (on the 3 fat chicks review I believe) that she said she didn't want to go because everyone would be taking pictures of her and writing about her in their blogs when they got home (boy I'll say) and she would have people stalking her.

HoneyBee2 · 10-14-2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Katinsac

Thanks Honey. Sent her an email to respond to so I could send the document. Do you know if the one with TT saying to send the money elsewhere was found and copied?

I am not sure if that one was found. I could not find the one with the address stating where to send the money, only the paypal information. It does appear that several of the posts are gone because there are posts by Tippy addressing other members who are not showing up in the thread.
Very odd how some of the information is there and other portions are not.

10-14-2007, 03:18 PM	#2791
CJane Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 454 Gallery: CJane Stats: 190/165/125 WOE: Atkins-ish/PP-ish/No Grains EVAH!	I'm not sure it really matters how "dr." mark became associated with KK, does it? As far as I can tell he's just an acupuncturist who has misrepresented himself as something more than he is, and he doesn't even know his patootie from a hole in the ground. We all know there is no way on God's green earth that KK could ever get anyone reputable to stand behind this WOE...and even though I don't believe this acupuncturist to be of good repute, he hasn't even recommended foods that KK would allow, even with the revisions (as far as I can tell). If it were me I wouldn't waste my time looking for the way he became associated with KK...all that matters is he has chosen to ally himself with a known scam/scammer, has ignored the facts and warnings from others about this situation, and that tells everyone all we need to know about him. __________________ The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. ~ Marcel Proust "I'm afraid your avi piccy IS taunting to all and you know what that makes you right??? A taunting taunter that taunts!" ~ Pooticus

10-14-2007, 03:20 PM	#2792
susyhammer Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Reno, Nevada Posts: 79 Gallery: susyhammer Stats: 170/115/130 5'6.5" WOE: Dr. A, all the way! Start Date: May 2004	This is a question about the searches for the fake before and after pictures. (Great job everyone! I’m so jealous.) I was working on some graphics today – doing my right-click, save-as routine – and wondered if the filenames of the fake photos might have any significance. (Often when people copy and paste pictures from the Internet they don’t bother changing the filename but just plop the picture "as is" right into what they’re working on.) I went quickly to the fraudulent photos blog and looked at one or two of the filenames – they seem have some differing naming conventions. Could the photos be traced from these names? I remember that Blue Sapphire actually has some sort of code next to the person’s name… Or did you (HoneyBee) change the filename yourself when you placed the photos in the blogs? If so, ignore this dumb post! I’m in the middle of a deadline and can’t investigate this (although I’d love to!) but wondered if someone else might care to take a look. Hope this isn’t clear as mud. In a rush…. Susy __________________ Everyone is someone.

10-14-2007, 03:51 PM	#2798
Smythe MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New York Posts: 2,727 Gallery: Smythe Stats: here we go again 10/8/4-6 WOE: Atkins Start Date: August 2004 Goal Nov 2005 reinducting 1/2008	observation about fund raiser Hi guys- I'm reading about the fund raiser for the foster kids but it seems they might have a loop hole if I'm reading things correctly. It reads as if they were raising $$ for kids who aged out of foster care that Heidi claims were once in her care. Is that the case?? If so I don't know if you can get her or TT on this because it's like giving $$ to needy adults. A very good friend of mine was in a group home as a kid and at age 18 it was Bye Bye..find a place to live. Just a thought. I'd like nothing better than to see this lady's butt in a sling if she misrepresented where that $$ was going. Also, has anyone checked to see if Heidi ever did have foster kids? Maybe I missed that part. Ok, gonna go back to lurking __________________ Life's too short to argue with strangers

10-14-2007, 03:23 PM	#2793
MJR Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 270 Gallery: MJR WOE: Atkins	A few days ago, someone posted a Mark Brinson with a Zepherhills address. Was it ever determined that this was the same Mark Brinson? The reason I ask... is that I live close to Zepherhills and know that this is a VERY SMALL Town! I can't imagine that Tippy and Dr Mark could live in this town and Not Know Each Other. Almost impossible IMHO.

10-14-2007, 03:40 PM	#2796
Maid of Erin Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: County Kerry, Ireland Posts: 5,313 Gallery: Maid of Erin Stats: 320/285/160 WOE: Whole Food Atkins Start Date: April 2006	FYI, this is probably nothing... but I noticed that Dr. Mark's scheduled to give seminars soon in ONLY two locations. In St. Petersburg (less than 50 miles from Tippy) and one other place....San Diego, CA, which happens to be less than 100 miles away from....Heidi. Does this mean anything, maybe not, but still, hmmmm, very interesting.....

10-14-2007, 05:40 PM	#2802
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,610 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	who wants the screen shots of Tippy's Kimmer Kids Challange? I have a whole document of it. I do remember reading a thread a while back where she said the paypal didn't work and for them to send checks to Kimmer's brother but that thread is gone...gee, I wonder why. (or I just couldn't find it again...)

10-14-2007, 05:45 PM	#2803
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,610 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	gonna go eat dinner...bbl

10-14-2007, 06:32 PM	#2808
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,610 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	guess I'll go back and look for the other info again...