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Old 10-13-2007, 12:44 AM   #2521
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that site just locked up on me again...grrrrr
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Old 10-13-2007, 12:47 AM   #2522
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Can someone point me to a post with links that shows which pics we are looking for? I'll help out if I know what to be on the lookout for.
Terry...go up to the blue bar at the top and it will take you to the site. We are on the blue saphire (sp..sorry can't spell it without looking at it). I am looking at the women ages 35-39. If you take the ages 30-35 it will help. We are clicking on every picture and looking at their other pictures for the fake pics we have not found yet. The blog above will show you what we are looking for also.

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Old 10-13-2007, 12:49 AM   #2523
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Ok, I'm going to try to get into that site one more time and if it locks up, that will be it for me tonight. I'll try again tomorrow. Getting tired of clearing my cookies....
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Old 10-13-2007, 12:52 AM   #2524
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Terry...go up to the blue bar at the top and it will take you to the site. We are on the blue saphire (sp..sorry can't spell it without looking at it). I am looking at the women ages 35-39. If you take the ages 30-35 it will help. We are clicking on every picture and looking at their other pictures for the fake pics we have not found yet. The blog above will show you what we are looking for also.

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O.K., I'll take 30-35!
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Old 10-13-2007, 12:57 AM   #2525
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(Ok I am a tad behind)



Not that I give much credence to these studies, but even those people aren't doing low carb AND low cal. People don't seem to be getting that that combo is especially unhealthy. Kimmer seems to have stumbled upon the most dangerous way to starve yourself. Way to go Heidi.



My stomach sank when I first saw the lawn chair pic. When she claimed that obviously old white shirt pic was current, I just KNEW she was a liar. I felt so lost when I saw the patio chair pic b/c I couldn't believe I was wrong about her.
(Good to know my sixth sense was RIGHT )

As for Dr Mark. I bet you he is clueless about the controversy. He seems too honest. By responding to that Russian Bride post, he is already standing out amongst the other admins. I would not be surprised if Kimmer and TT TOTALLY DUPED him too! I kind of feel bad for him (but I will reserve judgment until I see how fast he is out of there).
Clueless my Ar_se.

He is a professional he says - it goes with the territory. he did his homework.
If not.. so be it -- he can join the ranks of K and Tipsy and cry wolf

TOS TOS.. Surely he has violated the TOS by his very question let alone his link to a " negative post " ? ( Negative in respect to the K empire that is <call it that if you may > )

He is not banned by now! ( GASP )

Go figure..

NOW if he really has no clue and K or T is duping him ..
Then I feel for him and he can take action later - ?
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:02 AM   #2526
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If there really is a Dr. Mark posting at KK's, he's probably lost whatever license he has and is desparate to make a buck. He would take Tippy's word that everything there is hunky-dory and she could explain us "haters" away by telling him not to waste his time since we're only here because we're jealous of the fabulous and svelt Kimmer.

I think he's being used by Kimmer. Imagine that?! But, that said, he's a dolt if he doesn't research her and try to salvage any credibility he may still have. Tick tock, doc. Time isn't on your side or Kimmers!
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:06 AM   #2527
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O.K., I'll take 30-35!
sorry..that should be 30-34
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This might already have been discussed on one of the other fascination threads (so hard to remember everything I've read since this saga began). Has anyone who has been in contact with her ex, sent him the patio chair pic for confirmation that it is or is not her (just in case it was taken when she was skinny).

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I think the son's ex girlfriend confirmed what pics were of her and which were not.

I noticed this on the site I am searching:

Notice to competitors: All information obtained from this website, including ladies addresses, images, materials, and text can only be used by our clients for private non-commercial use. Any use of this information for any commercial purposes without our prior written permission is completely prohibited and will result in prosecution to the fullest extent under the law. Copyright © WANS, All Rights Reserved, 1997 - 2005.

I do believe they have been notified (I hope...).

Ok, signing off this site and trying the other one more time...
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Honey...you still here or did you go to bed?
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:29 AM   #2532
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Terry...Honey's earlier post to me with the link to the website I was at had the years 12/1997 to 12/2007. Just want to verify with her what years we are seaching as I went out and rebooted and came back and my pics had changed....lol....maybe I'm just too tired to look at all these lovely women tonight. lol
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ok, I'm going to bed and will check this out tomorrow...night all.
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Old 10-13-2007, 02:59 AM   #2535
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Hi all,
I have been updating the blog with the new found pics- way to go gunga- and I also went back through the found pics thus far.
Here are the top three sites -

Russian Brides (25,000+) Seeking Marriage at Blue Sapphires - Home Page
then the next one that had the most found
Russian girls of model quality - ELENAS MODELS -
I also use this site and it has had the fraudulent pics too
Choose Your Bride from thousands of Beautiful Russian Girls – Anastasia International

Those would be the top three in my opinion and I put an asterisk by those three on the website to search pages.
Gunga if you have looked and opened all the pics from age 45-99 on sapphire then I will put that on the website note on the blog.

So is the plan to look at Sapphire with no limit to hair color or other options just age range and looking at each profile?
If so everyone doing that chime in with the age they are doing.
Gunga I see you are on 40-44.
Me-HoneyBee doing 30-34
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Can someone point me to a post with links that shows which pics we are looking for? I'll help out if I know what to be on the lookout for.

Look at my quote above those are the top three but sapphire is the main one
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Terry...go up to the blue bar at the top and it will take you to the site. We are on the blue saphire (sp..sorry can't spell it without looking at it). I am looking at the women ages 35-39. If you take the ages 30-35 it will help. We are clicking on every picture and looking at their other pictures for the fake pics we have not found yet. The blog above will show you what we are looking for also.
thanks
Terry let me know what ones you looked at because as you can see I was looking there too in the 30-34 year old range, but maybe we can split it up if that works.

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Terry...Honey's earlier post to me with the link to the website I was at had the years 12/1997 to 12/2007. Just want to verify with her what years we are searching as I went out and rebooted and came back and my pics had changed....lol....maybe I'm just too tired to look at all these lovely women tonight. lol
I replied to your pm but it was around 4am because I was over looking at pics. Yes, the 12/1997 to 12/2007 year in which the woman added their profiles to the site is what I had on the link and what I was searching.
Good night all and I will catch with y'all tomorrow.
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Old 10-13-2007, 03:49 AM   #2536
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Kimmer's ex said she served jail time previously. I'm wondering if anyone has done a background check to determine what she was charged with?
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I’ve only posted the one other time, but I’ve come to the website a lot to read some of the posts and the before and after stories for inspiration. I’ve been maintaining a 55-60 pound total weight loss over the past year and a half, the last 15 pounds having come off since joining Kimkins. I usually wasn’t strictly following Kimkins, but I still lost weight.

I joined because I remembered Kimmer from a couple of years ago on another (free) low carb web forum. I was impressed by the fact that Kimmer said she’d lost 198 pounds in 11 months and didn’t find out that her thyroid was bad until after she’d lost the weight. Wow! I believed that! And her pictures! Did anyone see her ‘after’ shot in Women’s World magazine? Stunning! And all those ‘before and after’ stories and pictures—what a great diet!

But…..Kimmer lied. She never lost the weight. That wasn’t her picture in Women’s World magazine, and it wasn’t her in the red dress photo that she used to have on the home page. She faked almost all of the before and after stories, too. Lies, lies and more lies. Worse, her very low carb, very low calorie diet (which it was when I joined) is an unsafe combination. Since Kimmers’ fraud has been discovered most of the fake pictures have been removed from the Kimkins site. Members are also encouraged to take in higher calories and more fat than they were when I first joined, so that’s a change for the better (but it’s also classic Atkins, not ‘Kimkins’).

The admins who were so helpful to the members when I started, including the lovely woman who was on the cover of Women’s World magazine (unlike Kimmer, she really did lose her weight) have moved on as they discovered the lies and fraud. Many others who used to be members either left or were banned by the admins, and now it’s my turn to go.

When I joined back in January the terms of service (TOS) promised a lifetime membership that included direct access to Kimmer via the forums, and a certified athletic trainer available for advice. Kimmer’s gone, or at least she’s not using the name ‘Kimmer’ anymore, and the Certified Athletic Trainer resigned. This is in direct violation of the terms of service. So……Kimkins, you are banned for TOS violations and I am outta here!

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(Not my post, but found posted on KK and got it here.... about 20 minutes before KK deleted it.)

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I do see what you're saying. I probably should have elaborated, and will do it now. I was posting in a hurry and that's never the smart thing to do.

When I'm opposing someone at the same time I'm trying to educate others who are party to the debate, I try to use my opponent's own words as proof they're in the wrong. Posting a direct quote with accompanying link and then followed with why that is such terrible advice, one is able to establish that bad advice really was given and point the person in a better direction. In the instant case where the site has undergone 'sanitization', it would also illustrate that fundamental changes in the diet that so many bought into have taken place and are now considered OK, when in the past these same changes were the basis for being called "weak" or being invited to go stuff oneself with cupcakes.

Mind you, I'm under no delusion that doing what I've just advocated would allow one to keep their membership over there for any length of time. Probably 5 minutes, tops.
I knew where you were coming from , Sheridan. I've suggested the same thing a couple of times. I think it could have really interesting, potentially important, results. But I get tripped up on the part about people actually taking the advice, too. It's a tough call. It's a moot point anyway, because they can ban anyone they want to for any 'reason' they like. Such a freak-show culture they have in the site management, that's for sure.
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Old 10-13-2007, 05:17 AM   #2539
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It certainly wouldn't hurt to keep telling them about it.

Here is the page to contact them:
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This was the response I received from them:

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Date: 9/24/2007 8:29:26 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time
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Thank you for your inquiry. We are aware of the situation with Kimkins. It is not affiliated with Atkins, and we are in the process of rectifying the situation. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.
I am happy to see this.... they need to charge for their starvation diet, leave Atkins alone, it's healthy!!
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Old 10-13-2007, 05:21 AM   #2540
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The links to the men at http://www.allgrooms.com no longer work. It looks like they pulled the site down.
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Old 10-13-2007, 05:29 AM   #2541
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I’ve only posted the one other time, but I’ve come to the website a lot to read some of the posts and the before and after stories for inspiration. I’ve been maintaining a 55-60 pound total weight loss over the past year and a half, the last 15 pounds having come off since joining Kimkins. I usually wasn’t strictly following Kimkins, but I still lost weight.

I joined because I remembered Kimmer from a couple of years ago on another (free) low carb web forum. I was impressed by the fact that Kimmer said she’d lost 198 pounds in 11 months and didn’t find out that her thyroid was bad until after she’d lost the weight. Wow! I believed that! And her pictures! Did anyone see her ‘after’ shot in Women’s World magazine? Stunning! And all those ‘before and after’ stories and pictures—what a great diet!

But…..Kimmer lied. She never lost the weight. That wasn’t her picture in Women’s World magazine, and it wasn’t her in the red dress photo that she used to have on the home page. She faked almost all of the before and after stories, too. Lies, lies and more lies. Worse, her very low carb, very low calorie diet (which it was when I joined) is an unsafe combination. Since Kimmers’ fraud has been discovered most of the fake pictures have been removed from the Kimkins site. Members are also encouraged to take in higher calories and more fat than they were when I first joined, so that’s a change for the better (but it’s also classic Atkins, not ‘Kimkins’).

The admins who were so helpful to the members when I started, including the lovely woman who was on the cover of Women’s World magazine (unlike Kimmer, she really did lose her weight) have moved on as they discovered the lies and fraud. Many others who used to be members either left or were banned by the admins, and now it’s my turn to go.

When I joined back in January the terms of service (TOS) promised a lifetime membership that included direct access to Kimmer via the forums, and a certified athletic trainer available for advice. Kimmer’s gone, or at least she’s not using the name ‘Kimmer’ anymore, and the Certified Athletic Trainer resigned. This is in direct violation of the terms of service. So……Kimkins, you are banned for TOS violations and I am outta here!

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(Not my post, but found posted on KK and got it here.... about 20 minutes before KK deleted it.)
SHE banned *THEM!! Oh, you gotta love it!!
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Old 10-13-2007, 05:34 AM   #2542
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HOnestly, I just don't know...something about the pic just caught my eye! My DH keeps laughing at me, I have all the pics except the ones that rotate printed out, cut and taped on pages so I can keep refering back to them!

Now there is dedication!!!!!!

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Old 10-13-2007, 05:51 AM   #2543
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Kimmer's ex said she served jail time previously. I'm wondering if anyone has done a background check to determine what she was charged with?
i'm quoting myself.

The site won't let me edit. The reason I am asking is perhaps she has violated some probation conditions.
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These disclaimers were added to The Work Out Zone and Health & Wellness Chat.

Disclaimer 41 Minutes ago
We're sure it goes without saying, but anyone with a specific question regarding their individual health should consult their personal physician.

Kimkins staff are very generous with their knowledge and opinions, but should not be misinterpreted as a replacement for counsel of your health care provider.
Hmmmmm.......I got banned for suggesting that exact thing on Dr. Mark's "hypothyroid" thread. WTH?
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