Why the fascination with Kimmer? #7

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by shelby7851

The problem with this is that you PAY for this site, and the answers you are getting. It isnt like a free forum, where people volunteer their time outside of their day jobs. If you are paying for those answers, you can certainly be demanding! with 20 members though, how hard can it be to answer all the posts?

You're absolutely right!!

[xf89]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

The site does not state this and I did identify myself as an out of state person complaining in my letter to the Governor when they told me to file a complaint. I think what they look at is if the BUSINESS being complained against is in California is the important thing.

Thank you very much! Complaint filed with the state of CA by me.

[mrsmenopausal]

Tippy Toes 0 Minutes ago
I just went and took a look at some atkins sites for what that diet says about breaking a stall. YOU have lost and remained your weight loss for a while. Since I know both of those are not a easy thing to do. I wanted to pick your brain . lol
Did you lose all your weight on Atkins? If so how long did you stay on induction ? I seem to recall you lost on Atkins but I am not sure. I was away for a while with Philip's issues so I missed a few months of post.
The thing that is hard for me is things have changed here. I know..they changed with people staying and leaving ect . And KImmer selling the group ect. But what I am talking about..the diet has changed and that has me confused as to what way I need to go for the end of my weight loss and maintenance. When Kimmer was here ..Atkins was a no no...lol. Now we talk about Atkins more each day. I miss the days of strict KK and K/E. I guess a better way to figure out what I am saying...if you were still losing weight ect. What plan would you follow to finish weight loss and maintain.
I would love to wake up tomorrow at goal..lol
Would you mind sharing your opinion with me?

How do they expect people to take them seriously when they keep changing plans and info? It has to be so confusing for the members left there. I know I'd be wondering what was up with that. They're not getting what they paid for.

[susique333]

My humble apologies to the Site Owner for my post last night. I am aware that a joke like that could incite a riot if taken the wrong way. Sometimes I post too quick! Back to catching up on reading!

[SMP]

Originally Posted by Sheridan

Afternoon, y'all. I'm working on perfecting my patience, too. Remember: Good things come to those who wait.


The way to quote Heidi/Kimmer most effectively, IMO, is to quote her using actual links (the specific URL) to show when and where she said what is being quoted.

I'm as much for sneaky revenge as the next guy, and that kinda tickled my funny bone. But then I started to think (always dangerous) - if you quoted Kimmer's original advice right back to them, would you feel any responsibility if they followed it and did themselves harm? We have been trying to get the word to the members about how dangerous the original Kimkins is. Would we not become hypocrites for relaying the exact same answers to questions asked in good faith by struggling dieters? Let's not lose sight of 1. our goal 2. the victims in our desire to score off Kimmer and Tippy. I call that a bad idea. I'd sure hate to be lumped in with Heidi in our utter callous disregard for people.

[airse]

I don`t know if this will help anyone but I was doing a people search on Heidi Diaz and this information came up and didn`t know if someone here could use it;
~~Mel

MILLER, HEIDI KIMBERLY (Age: 49)
Records Found: Phone, Date Of Birth,
Associated names: DIAZ, HEIDI KIMBERLY - HEIDI, DIAZ
Addresses found in: Baldwin Park, CA - Corona, CA - Hesperia, CA - Torrance, CA - Victorville, CA
Possible Relatives: DIAZ, MATEO D - MILLER, DENNISE M - DIAZ, ESTHER OCON - DIAZ, MARIVED - DIAZ, HECTOR M - DIAZ, RACHEL

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

Dr. Mark's answer to the question if he is on staff...
(snipped)
It may take me a day to get back with you on some things but I have notice that you are in good hands.. The kimkins community has lots of knowledgable people in it... .....Are you sure you guys really need me?"

Maybe the realization this is a bad thing he's gotten involved with is sinking in?

(emphasis mine) I think he was wanting someone to stroke his ego, because he was feeling a little unloved by other members posting better replies. I also agree with another poster that it is a trait that Kimmer used. I think manipulators in general try to throw others off by appearing that they are in the weaker position by being humble, but it is a false humility.

Originally Posted by wifezilla

"I see the light at the end of the tunnel now.
Someone please tell me it's not a train"
- Cracker

Wifey it could be the good doctor coming in for a "Hands on Diagnosis". Remember most diagnoses can be done by just using the hands...according to his website. Maybe he just forgot to mention the BIG light he uses.

Originally Posted by Queeny

HoneyBee I am cornfuzzled? Did Tippy write that post in 2394?

Sorry, No post 2394 was a post to TIPPY is how it appeared on the boards there. Now Tippy did write this post I have added again below, but I'm sure you gathered that because it was typical CYA after reading the board here.

Quote:
Disclaimer 0 Minutes ago
We're sure it goes without saying, but anyone with a specific question regarding their individual health should consult their personal physician.
Kimkins staff are very generous with their knowledge and opinions, but should not be misinterpreted as a replacement for counsel of your health care provider.

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[McLurkypants]

I looked around the FTC website to learn about what the federal government actually does about false advertising. They have a Bureau of Consumer Protection, and the Kimkins situation seems to fit the false advertising part to a T!

Since I was never a customer, it does not appear from the complaint form that I would be an appropriate person to file a formal complaint.

For any of you who purchased Kimkins memberships, and who feel you did so based on false advertising by Kimkins, you can initiate a formal complaint with the FTC by completing THIS FORM.

You will need to have handy the following information to complete the form:

Business Name: Kimkins
Address: 529 North McKinley Street 104-309, Corona, CA 92879
Primary Phone: (951) 258-3976
Primary Contact: Heidi Diaz, Owner
Website: Kimkins - Home

Just wanted to pass this along - I imagine the more complaints they get, the quicker they would move on an investigation.

[katOD]

Originally Posted by jeanessa

Hey - anybody have this old Kimkins email from July? If so, please let me know!

Hey there!

Did you know exercise doesn't work? Nope. I know you're shocked! It's the most common fallacy in the diet business -- work out and lose weight. Are they serious?


Check any exercise calculator. A 200 pound woman who walks 2 miles a day will only burn 175 calories! This means it will take 3 weeks of daily walking to lose only 1 pound!!! Just 1! Walking 2 miles every day!

Here's the math: 175 calories x 20 days = 3500 calories (1 pound)


This is why the Kimkins Diet is a weight loss Super Star! Kimkins is thermogenic. You burn more calories than regular "slow" diets -- and it works without exercise! It's true! Kimkins members typically lose 5% of their total body weight in the first 10 days! Wow!

It's your choice: Depend on exercise to lose 1-2 pounds in 30 days or pick thermogenic Kimkins and lose 10% of your total body weight in 30 days! Hmmm, I know what sounds better to me!

I would have sent a pm, but I cant yet , I have it.

[Locarb4me]

Originally Posted by SMP

I call that a bad idea. I'd sure hate to be lumped in with Heidi in our utter callous disregard for people.

My question was more sarcastic and rhetorical actually. I agree with you 100%!!

[SMP]

Originally Posted by Locarb4me

My question was more sarcastic and rhetorical actually. I agree with you 100%!!

Oh thank goodness! My sarcasm sensor is on the fritz right now as I'm working my way through fuzzy thinking and the flu.

[sherlynn9]

Actually, I think that everytime Tippy posts that those who went too low on calories did so on their own, someone should post a kimmer post telling people to go that low. This could actually start some of the newer members who were not around then, thinking about what is taking place on that site and making them wonder what they paid for.

Wonder when people are going to catch on that there is no "real" plan that anyone lost and maintained their loss on that site.

Heidi (Kimmer) certainly did a good job of selling a dream. Quite honestly, if I hadn't of known of her from this site and had seen the WW article, I probably would have joined also. Let's face it, who wouldn't like to lose their weight quickly and effortlessly.

Sheryl, who mostly lurks.

[Piekinns]

Locarb4me, your location has me

[JoSkids]

Whew! Finally caught up again! I have spent 2 weeks catching up, I had to take a break for a while to clean my house (you needed a tetanus shot to go into my bathroom). Plus, my weight loss plan got totally derailed with all this mess, so I stayed away for a while to get back on track.

But mold is what they make penicillen from - doesn't that make my bathroom healthy. Maybe I should clean mine too, if that is not the case

[MissMerize]

I had my doubts Hour, Minutes ago
I had my doubts about whether or not I would stick with Kimkins after the scandal.... But I must admit that I love love love my body and the feeling is indescribable... Since starting kimkins I have lost over 65 pounds, grown out my hair more, wear better cuter clothes and generally enjoy everything I do more and more each day. Who and how this plan was founded is irrelvant to me... I truly waffled about my thoughts on the issue, but the bottom line is this - I got what I paid for - I LOST WEIGHT!!!!!!! Thank you Kimmer....PS - I am not an idiot, I do think for myself and don't eat ridiculously low amounts of food...


Translation please, if there is nothing major to this forum please say nothing major....

Que linda eres Sole!!! Gracias por tus palabras..Ya he oido de ese libro y cuando cobre el lunes tenia ya planes de comprarlo. Hay uno religioso que dice lo mismo pero con Dios por alante que me ayudado mucho. Mi hijo mayor (32) esta en intensivo. El uso Meth hace 2 anos y le destruyo el corazon y tiene el corazon de uno de 80 anos. Esta en a-fib y heart failure...el corazon le esta fallando y se a engrandecido mucho. Pesaba 500lbs pero ahora esta en 450 y de ese peso tendra como 40 de agua..anoche le bajo la presion tanto que lo corrieron al intensivo pero gracias a Dios esta mejorcito esta noche. De todo mal algo bueno sale....mi hija y yo hemos estado sin hablar por 4 meses..el cuento es muy feo y el final es que ella queria manipularme a ser quien no soy y hasta que no hiciera lo que ella queria no podia ver mi nietecito...soy estorbe en que no permito que nadie me oblique hacer algo que no quiero asi que por los ultimos 4 meses (el bebe tiene 6 meses ahora) no lo he visto. Le escribi un texto diciendole de su hermano y vino a verlo y actuo como si nada uviera pasado. El bebe me quiere y no me extrano como seria natural. No lo he visto desde los 2 meses..Cenamos juntas y mi hijo esta mejor. Las hormonas que estoy cojiendo me estan afectando las juesos y tengo que dejarlas asi que tratare los naturales..Mi dieta la rompi hoy pero no por mucho..comi frutas y un pedazo de pan..lo malo es que tengo cita con mi medico el miercoles y me va reganar por esas libras y con mi hijo en intensivo es dificil comer bien afuera...Saludos a todas y por favor oren por mi hijo....Besos Millie


*posting times are not actual

[MissMerize]

I'm getting another martini, so take your time translating

[Locarb4me]

That it is contiguous you are Sole! Thanks for your palabras..Ya I have oido of that book and when tapeworm receives Monday already plans to buy it. There is one monk who says the same but with God by alante that helped me much. My older son (32) this in intensive. The use Meth makes 2 anuses and I destroy the heart to him and has the heart of one of 80 anuses. This in a-fib and heart failure... the engrandecido heart this failing to him and to much. This in 450 and of that weight weighed 500lbs now but tendra like 40 of agua..anoche him under the pressure as much that they tonight ran to intensive but thanks to God this mejorcito. All badly something good daughter ......

Sheesh ....gotta love BabelFish.
Somehow, I don't believe this is what the woman is saying.

[juniper01]

Ok, I just spent an hour and a half on Russian Bride sites and my head is No Luck.

[Mariasol]

Originally Posted by MissMerize

I'm getting another martini, so take your time translating

Really nothing relevant to our discussion on this thread. She is just talking about problems and issues with her grown kids.

[Darlene41]

Originally Posted by juniper01

Ok, I just spent an hour and a half on Russian Bride sites and my head is No Luck.

I've been on the dating sites too...trying to find at least one tonight, at least it would be worth my effort.

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by Locarb4me

I found it. How You Make a Difference posted on Ducky's blog Sept 25. Yay!

Now, in my best John Wayne voice>>>> "Wellll now, Pilgrim. I b'lieve Ah'll put a notch in mah belt for that 'un"

Thanks for digging up the information and posting it! Going through the Exposed blog looking for something you have read there before can be a pain, because I have done it MANY times, so the notch was earned!

Originally Posted by SMP

Oh thank goodness! My sarcasm sensor is on the fritz right now as I'm working my way through fuzzy thinking and the flu.

SMP- Sorry to read that you are battling the Flu. I hope you are able to rest and get well. Would this be a good time one should try to convince you of how baaaaaad Dr. Mark is, since your normal train of thought will be thrown off due to the illness. LOL Just kidding with you and keeping your mind off how bad you feel.

[gungadinn1997]

Dating service : Russian bride : Online dating : Russian dating

Here's Brad....now we are officially done with the men I do believe!

[juniper01]

Originally Posted by Darlene41

I've been on the dating sites too...trying to find at least one tonight, at least it would be worth my effort.

I am finding repeats on new sites, but nothing we haven't seen before

[Freedom&Light]

Hi everyone! Another lurker here. I've never done kimkins, never signed up. I remember when she was on LCF and thought to myself that I would never be able to do something so restrictive. LOL. But the whole thing makes me so angry because I am trying my hardest to lose weight and live a healthy life. To see someone take advantage of people just like me is infuriating. I'm so appreciative of everyone's efforts in this- thanks for saving people like me from scam artists.

Just introducing myself.

I think that the friendly Atkins people might be interested in knowing that there is someone who is charging money and giving Atkins advice, hm? That's what it looks like is happening- Miss TT is sure dishing it out.

Also, in Heidi's fitday, there is one entry that is the suggested calories for bootcamp- and it's a whopping 500 calories. I have a screen shot if needed.

The bride sites make my brain hurt.

Keep on truckin' everyone!!!