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Old 10-12-2007, 02:33 PM   #2371
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Okay, I'm a teacher and the word knowledgeable is on a 5th or 6th grade level for spelling/usage. WTH?!

Sorry. Maybe it's just me, but I CANNOT trust a "doctor" who cannot spell correctly on a 5th grade level. Geeeesssszzzhhhh! But, bless his heart!
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:38 PM   #2372
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...snip....We also ask that members show patience when posting questions. Our staff members are real people with real lives and are kind enough to share some of their time on the Kimkins forums. They reply as their schedule permits.
Oh that's RICH!! They ban people within minutes or even seconds! If they'd cool it on the witch hunt, maybe they'd have time to actually support the people who want to know what they have to say!
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:38 PM   #2373
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I did get a response for the Governor Schwarzeneggar's office and I at least felt like they read it because it did include the specific business Kimkins in the response. I thought the Governor would be appalled not only by the fraud but also the health consequences.
Just to share and let others now that the word is getting out there.


"Thank you for your email to Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

You may file an online complaint against Kimkins with the Department of Consumer
Affairs at:

https://app.dca.ca.gov/cru/gencomplaint.htm

We hope you find this information useful. Again, thank you for your email.


Office of Constituent Affairs"


Thanks, Honey. That link isn't working for me.

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Well this is one- To: heidi.k.diaz@gmailDOTcom
I am not sure what her official email was that she left at kimkins. It is floating around here somewhere....... I also used
support@kimkinsDOTcom

When writing a letter of complaint. I would also say file a tech support claim. Not that it will do anything to make them give you your service back but if you use all the proper channels that kimkins supposedly has in place then she can not deny that they were aware of your rights being violated.
Thank you!
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:39 PM   #2374
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I have lost almost 80 pounds. I have not worked out at all. No I ma not proud of that...lol. One thing that lead me to this plan is Kimmer's ideas about no need to exercise. I am curious about a few things.
One ..do you lose faster if you work out?
Two...do you think if you get close to goal , that you can lose faster with starting to work out...
Three.... do you think working out can help ease any weight gain if you go to maintance.

The kimmer newsletter had this in it...can you explain your thoughts on diet vs working out. I would love a reason to not work out..lol
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Hey there!

Did you know exercise doesn't work? Nope. I know you're shocked! It's the most common fallacy in the diet business -- work out and lose weight. Are they serious?


Check any exercise calculator. A 200 pound woman who walks 2 miles a day will only burn 175 calories! This means it will take 3 weeks of daily walking to lose only 1 pound!!! Just 1! Walking 2 miles every day!

Here's the math: 175 calories x 20 days = 3500 calories (1 pound)


This is why the Kimkins Diet is a weight loss Super Star! Kimkins is thermogenic. You burn more calories than regular "slow" diets -- and it works without exercise! It's true! Kimkins members typically lose 5% of their total body weight in the first 10 days! Wow!

It's your choice: Depend on exercise to lose 1-2 pounds in 30 days or pick thermogenic Kimkins and lose 10% of your total body weight in 30 days! Hmmm, I know what sounds better to me!
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The BBB has them at F now and has numerous negative reviews that the CC should find good reading. They can also contact the FTC or other agencies and inquire about an investigation or add their complaint at having to refund a members charge. I would say that by you filing a complaint with the FTC, the BBB, signing the petition etc...would show your CC that you are serious and not satisfied with Kimkins service. IMHO

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Thank you HoneyBee2. I will be visiting each one of these links. My "lifetime membership" with KK was the shortest one I have ever had!
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Latest from Tippy on the water fast

"Re:Stalling 1 Minute ago
Amy, I am not a fan of fasting personally. But I do think a day or two of a juice fast would be better than 30 days of water by far. Still, I am no expert for fasting nor have I (or could I) even do it. I did note something in an Atkins book though about ketosis being a temporary state and that I believe. I don't think I can get into ketosis anymore myself no matter what. Just been at this game for too long and I think the body caught on. I say this because DH doesn't gag trying to kiss me anymore, lol. Also, in another Atkins book he does mention reversal techniques for stalls and one suggestion was to eat only fruit for 2 or 3 days. That really surprised me!"
How can he NOT gag trying to kiss her? I gag just thinking about her.
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:43 PM   #2377
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I realize it is about the money. Most things end up being about the money. However there are a million and one jobs out there where you can make money and not work for a scammer. I mean just get a job elsewhere KWIM?
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Thank you for all your hard work !!!
BIG ditto from me, too!

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Was this posted to the exercise guru guy? Oh, he's going to love that one. LOL!! How do you answer this one without denouncing Kimmer/Heidi's advice? I have to see this one.

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How can he NOT gag trying to kiss her? I gag just thinking about her.
Isn't she the one who said she couldn't stand to kiss *him?
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Atkins Atkins, that's all they do is refer to Atkins. What a crock and people are paying for this information. There is no special Kimmer diet anymore folks, wake up Kimkimites.
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Darlene...sorry got your name wrong last night. Great Job and thanks. I also think some of the fakes are real people but I think they might have come from the Dating sites Kimmer was on, so check there.




Good response!!




Because Paypal is making money off of her.....
No problem about my name. I have been searching dating sites and the one she was on. I'm ready to start searching again. I just have to find them or it will drive me crazy!

Oh, and you all are just cracking me up today!
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:54 PM   #2381
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I realize it is about the money. Most things end up being about the money. However there are a million and one jobs out there where you can make money and not work for a scammer. I mean just get a job elsewhere KWIM?
I think it's a power trip too. Hey look at me..I can ban anyone I want. I can give out terrible advice and people will actually do it. I can make people believe in something that isn't real. I can call and make my husband get a colonoscopy because he called me fat.
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Posted on Exposed or Dangers? I remember seeing it somewhere, and yes, it was a result from someone contacting the agent
I found it. How You Make a Difference posted on Ducky's blog Sept 25. Yay!

Now, in my best John Wayne voice>>>> "Wellll now, Pilgrim. I b'lieve Ah'll put a notch in mah belt for that 'un"
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:13 PM   #2383
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How many people do you think have been scammed?
There must be hundreds of us. And there is certainly power in numbers.

Does anyone remember that old shampoo commercial ~
"I told two friends, and they told two friends, and so on, and so on . . . .)

What about an email campaign? I am going to draft a letter with all the ugly details. Then I am going to send it to everyone in my address book ~ as a warning ~and I am going to ask THEM to send it on to all the people THEY care about. (and so on, and so on, and so on . . .)

We could reach thousands of people in a matter of days. If we each did our own, individualized email campaign, think of the impact it could have!

I am afraid that in the past, I recommended this diet to others. I even talked a friend into joining. (FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS DO KIMKINS!) I just want to undo some of the damage I did. Now I want to send out the truth!

Perhaps that would keep others from being conned and placed in harm's way.
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Anyone have the email addy for kimkins? I need it for a complaint I'm doing.
mrsm ~ you may have already found an answer, but the one I've used is webmaster@kimkins.com.

I've also sent an email to askkimmer@gmail.com (it went through but I never got a reply .... figures! )
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Hi, everybody!

These disclaimers were added to The Work Out Zone and Health & Wellness Chat.

Disclaimer 41 Minutes ago
We're sure it goes without saying, but anyone with a specific question regarding their individual health should consult their personal physician.

Kimkins staff are very generous with their knowledge and opinions, but should not be misinterpreted as a replacement for counsel of your health care provider.

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I found it. How You Make a Difference posted on Ducky's blog Sept 25. Yay!

Now, in my best John Wayne voice>>>> "Wellll now, Pilgrim. I b'lieve Ah'll put a notch in mah belt for that 'un"
Got a link? I can't find it.
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Hi, everybody!

I think these messages have now been posted in every KK thread by Admin:

Disclaimer 41 Minutes ago
We're sure it goes without saying, but anyone with a specific question regarding their individual health should consult their personal physician.

Kimkins staff are very generous with their knowledge and opinions, but should not be misinterpreted as a replacement for counsel of your health care provider.
Actually these are only posted in the Work Out Zone and Health & Wellness Chat.
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:22 PM   #2389
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mrsm ~ you may have already found an answer, but the one I've used is webmaster@kimkins.com.

I've also sent an email to askkimmer@gmail.com (it went through but I never got a reply .... figures! )
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WHOA! HOLD THE PHONE! Just 2 posts down from the quoted one, Tippy said Dr.Mark IS a staff member; so who are you going to believe? And that little zinger about other good advisers and were they (Kimkins, Tippy et al) sure they really needed him? This sounds suspiciously like he is reconsidering the whole loss of privacy and credentials thingie that goes with Kimkins territory right now. How much do you want to bet that he makes the excuse of too many other pressing responsibilities in the near future and BACKS OFF? (Or maybe the flea that someone put in the State Licensing Board's ear came back to nip him!)

The water and juice diet is fairly harmless for normal people for the 24-48 hours he recommended. But let's get back to the INTERESTING STUFF! Does this mark the subtle sliding away of Mark? Stay tuned for more developments.

I was kind of thinking it sounded like Heidi when she posted not long ago about being surprised that people really wanted to hear from her. Sounded to me like a plea for "oh of course we want to hear from our great Dr."
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Okay, I'm a teacher and the word knowledgeable is on a 5th or 6th grade level for spelling/usage. WTH?!

Sorry. Maybe it's just me, but I CANNOT trust a "doctor" who cannot spell correctly on a 5th grade level. Geeeesssszzzhhhh! But, bless his heart!
In all fairness, that is one word with two correct spellings. See dictionary.com:

knowl·edge·a·ble /ˈnɒlɪdʒəbəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[nol-i-juh-buhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective possessing or exhibiting knowledge, insight, or understanding; intelligent; well-informed; discerning; perceptive.

Also, knowl·edg·a·ble.
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Oh my, admin must be feeling a little pressured.

Re:When to exercise and what amount to eat? Hour, Minutes ago
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Thanks for the response. So, I am okay with eating about 900 calories while lifting and doing cardio? That seems a bit low in calories, to me.

Answers posted by Kimkins staff are for general information only. If you have concerns specific to your own body, please contact your personal doctor for advice.

We also ask that members show patience when posting questions. Our staff members are real people with real lives and are kind enough to share some of their time on the Kimkins forums. They reply as their schedule permits.
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* please note, actual posting time has been changed
kind enough to share some of their time??? WTH???

They ARE getting paid right?
They do hang out at the kimpound 24/7 so they can ban anyone who gets out of line right?
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Thanks, Honey. That link isn't working for me.
Thank you!
Then a human really did compose that email and it was not a standard form, so that is good but the link not working is a bad sign.
I just cut and pasted the email that I got from his office. I had already filed the other complaint before I emailed the Governor. I posted the email to show that a response did come in, but here is the Link they should have used or at least the one I did in filing my complaint. https://app.dca.ca.gov/cru/gencomplaint.asp

BTW-
Thanks to everyone who is writing and complaining on this issue. I know I am not the only one by far. I just wanted to share that we are at least being heard, because I know for me it can become discouraging to wait for justice to be done.
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