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Old 10-11-2007, 10:51 PM   #2131
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My friend who I am currently bunking up with is in awe. She leaves for work, I'm on the computer, she comes home, I'm in the same spot, on the same thread
Did she check for the Krazy Glue yet? Intelligence stasis? or heaven forbid, mermerization with Fascination?
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:53 PM   #2132
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Yes.. but if you plan it correctly you can do it while you : " swap " , " switch " , " go off plan " ..I am having trouble with wording..

Oh wait I remember -- it was the new " TIPSY CYCLE PLAN " ..

Oops.. Did I say Tipsy? -
Well on the cycle plan Tipsy Cake from Cracker Barrel is OTCP
( new acronym : On The Current Plan . )

Whatever..

I am thinking this guy is WAK.


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Has someon already shared this and I missed it because I about blew diet sunkist out my nose on this one!
From the Kimpound-(underlining is mine)


This person has to be kidding, right?? I wonder how Dr. Mark will respond to the wanting of a joint or "fatty" comment?
What's a fatty besides me?

ETA I missed the word joint, why is it a fatty? Is it just an extra large one or is it low carb friendly with some coconut oil blended in?

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RE: the positive Kimmer blog someone posted about on p. 71 of this thread

I just sent the following e-mail to the site's contact. I'll let you know if I get a response!
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Hello. I'm not sure why you've positively reviewed the Kimkins diet plan, but I want to point out some things about it that you may not know.

1. It is a scam. Fake success stories, including the one by the diet's "creator". Do a little google search and see for yourself!

2. Heidi Kimberly Diaz is being investigated by multiple agencies for fraud, tax evasion, false advertising, etc.

3. A class action lawsuit is being processed against her for false claims and for defrauding the members of her website.

4. Anyone who knowingly aids Diaz in promoting her diet and perpetuating this fraud, including her website admins, affiliates, etc. may also be held liable in the lawsuit.

I suspect you are a well-meaning person just trying to earn a few bucks. Please, do so in another way. Find a legitimate website with which to do business, for your own sake! Again, I do not expect you to take my word for this. Please search on your own and come to your own conclusions. One of the main success stories, a lady from Texas named Christin has a video on her blog about her health problems stemming from the Kimkins diet. Her blog is called The Journey and is a great place to start learning.

Good luck. And, please do the right thing. Don't aid this woman in hurting people. Thank you.
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:06 PM   #2136
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I think your "base camp" sounds like a great idea. It doesn't mean that the fascination thread won't be updated but only after the info has been put under a magnifying glass. That way if we have ideas on how to proceed on certain topics, we can discuss them and even post what we've found out before broadcasting it to Heidi/TT, etc.

The hard part is how do we figure out who is legit and who isn't when they register to have access to the site?

IMHO this idea is definitely food for thought!
Oh oh, think this through, Cheryl. If we start questioning posters' affiliations BEFORE letting them into a private area, and THEN some presumably private posts get leaked, do we pull a Heidi and let our finger hover above a big fat BAN button? Do we have the admins put on their bloodhound faces, and personally sniff each poster, then sneak over to KK and see whose ISP betrays them? Then we have learned from Heidi and her admin(ions), but not what we expected or even wanted. Naw, keep this thread entirely open and let us be seen and remain above board. Anything you don't want broadcast, email to select posters and keep it amongst yourselves. But just keep in mind that nothing is truly private on the Web.
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:12 PM   #2137
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It doesn't look like Dr Mark has posted since yesterday

Does this mean he's running scared?

He should be.... I think a "duck" is chasing him.
Naw, he's started his series of seminars as posted on his upcoming events calendar. Don't get your hopes up just yet. (Sorry.)
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Oh oh, think this through, Cheryl. If we start questioning posters' affiliations BEFORE letting them into a private area, and THEN some presumably private posts get leaked, do we pull a Heidi and let our finger hover above a big fat BAN button? Do we have the admins put on their bloodhound faces, and personally sniff each poster, then sneak over to KK and see whose ISP betrays them? Then we have learned from Heidi and her admin(ions), but not what we expected or even wanted. Naw, keep this thread entirely open and let us be seen and remain above board. Anything you don't want broadcast, email to select posters and keep it amongst yourselves. But just keep in mind that nothing is truly private on the Web.
Thank you, SMP. You stated my thoughts exactly.

The tone on this thread about "us vs. them" sometimes gets out of hand. (By the way, the definition of "them" keeps changing based on the mood of the crowd...and probably whether they are PUI.) Step back and remember what this thread is -- an expose' on Heidi and Kimkins, her fraud and the dangers of her diet.

One of the biggest pros of this thread has been the influx of people from KK, and how they have been welcomed to the weight loss portions of this board in order to continue their journey. If you move this thread to the Playground (a totally inappropriate folder) or only allow "approved" members ("approved" by who???) then you cut off the thousands of people who will be looking for info on KK. This thread is here to tell them the dangers, the scam, that KK is. If you turn it into a "members only" club for the "in crowd", you will be missing out on a bigger, long-term benefit.

PS - There are a lot of lurkers who were affected by Heidi/Kimkins who don't post often but have very valid opinions. If we run them off this thread because we imply they have no right to say anything because they don't post very often, what does that say about us?
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:35 PM   #2139
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Very true! We must keep an open thread for those leaving KK.

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Old 10-12-2007, 12:01 AM   #2140
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Since this person is stating exactly what I would, minus the shots, what would you tell them?

The PT's told me the same thing. Stretches etc..
They said I weigh too much for the night brace to do any good and my doc says I should avoid shots at all cost ( me, not everyone)
I had a wedge to do stretches on, but it wasn't "all that" KWIM?

What else can we do?
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I got the cortison shots. (OWIE!)
I did the 3 times a day icing.
I took the OTC anti-inflammatories/analgesics.
I did the stretching exercises, including the one with the belt at first rising (kept my husband's leather belt on the headboard for handiness).
I got orthotics.
I wore, for 18 -20 months, nothing but sneakers and flat-heeled boots with the orthotics. (Yes, no pretty, girlie shoes for nearly two years.)

That fixed me up. I stopped having the middle of the night agonies, the early morning torture.

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In the end, I adapted to make my feet happy. I can wear cuter shoes now, but they're all well-cushioned in the soles. I haven't used the orthotic in years. Stilettos are not in my vocabulary.

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RE: the positive Kimmer blog someone posted about on p. 71 of this thread

I just sent the following e-mail to the site's contact. I'll let you know if I get a response!
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Hello. I'm not sure why you've positively reviewed the Kimkins diet plan, but I want to point out some things about it that you may not know.

1. It is a scam. Fake success stories, including the one by the diet's "creator". Do a little google search and see for yourself!

2. Heidi Kimberly Diaz is being investigated by multiple agencies for fraud, tax evasion, false advertising, etc.

3. A class action lawsuit is being processed against her for false claims and for defrauding the members of her website.

4. Anyone who knowingly aids Diaz in promoting her diet and perpetuating this fraud, including her website admins, affiliates, etc. may also be held liable in the lawsuit.

I suspect you are a well-meaning person just trying to earn a few bucks. Please, do so in another way. Find a legitimate website with which to do business, for your own sake! Again, I do not expect you to take my word for this. Please search on your own and come to your own conclusions. One of the main success stories, a lady from Texas named Christin has a video on her blog about her health problems stemming from the Kimkins diet. Her blog is called The Journey and is a great place to start learning.

Good luck. And, please do the right thing. Don't aid this woman in hurting people. Thank you.
Great letter, straight to the point, easy to read and short. Perfect in hitting the highlights.

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What's a fatty besides me?

ETA I missed the word joint, why is it a fatty? Is it just an extra large one or is it low carb friendly with some coconut oil blended in?
I'm going to get you Golite....trying to get me in trouble.......I can see the gleam in your eye from here.
See I knew someone would say what is a fatty or why is that funny. I threw in the joint portion to clarify. Welcome to illegal drug use 101....They call it a fatty because they "super-size" them for those who like to smoke marijuana like some smoke tobacco. They will even put it in cigars. That should give you a good visual Golite and if not flip the flat screen over to MTV and maybe you can catch Snoop Dawg firing one up. LOL

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Naw, he's started his series of seminars as posted on his upcoming events calendar. Don't get your hopes up just yet. (Sorry.)
You noticed that too, huh. I hope he took his laptop for some in sky reading. Oh scratch that, because he is local for the seminar....I had the cali trip in mine.......
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I had the ultrasound in the beginning when there was a lot of scar tissue and the PT taught my DH to do the massage on the heel to keep it broken up, but the insurance won't pay for the ultrasound treatment in this state.
Since then even orthotics don't help.
I wish I'd never bought anti-pronation runners.......
Really? My anti-pronation Brooks' athletic shoes allow me to walk farther than usual.

Really. I noticed the difference in how much easier I can stride and how much farther I can go with my Brooks for over-pronators, noticeably moreso than with my regular Avia/Nike/Propet/Etc sneaks. My knee and my heels never hurt when I use them to do errands or take a long stroll on the Hollywood Broadwalk.

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Gee, kinda nice coming back after an evening out and not having to read 30 pages.

Sure glad someone asked about the "fatty" because, I was afraid to...but will be interesting to see if he answers it or if it gets pulled.

To Diania or whomever that was (sorry, senior moment on name) looking at all the sites behind the scene, good job. I keep checking too but after a while they all start looking alike and dang...there sure are a lot of pretty ladies on them. I get a kick out of the ones who are the same but with a different hair color...just makes more to look at.
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Hey, is that Firefox a free download thing?
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Honey, lastnight I was looking for fakes and I noticed the pic of Kimmer in the lounge chair that they said her son took at home or whatever, wasn't there anymore. What happened to it? Did we decide it wasn't one we'd find or what? Think it was mentioned in the last thread but I think I kinda skipped over it some...sorry.
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hey, did everybody go to bed? Am I alone here?...who needs sleep?
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Ok, guess I'll go search for fakes....
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Yes, it's free. I love Firefox.

As for a joint being called a fatty...that's a term used by those marijuana smokers who enjoy them rolled extra fat and packed with "herb." I don't indulge, but I know the terminology because my dad loved the stuff. Heh.
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Thanks, CJane...calling it a night, catch everyone in the morning
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Goodnight Mrs.M

BTW- I just wanted to comment too on the fact that a member here, Darlene41, has been searching her heart out for the remaining people up on the success story list. She has went through 15 different sites trying to find the ones remaining.

Everyone has worked hard but I wanted to say thanks to Darlene because she didn't post her information here and I wanted y'all to know as well.
Great job Darlene and thank you!
And I am still searching. I've been going into different sites to try and find the ones that don't look like actual models. And I just want to say again thank you or all your hard work..and everybody here who has helped.
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I am prone to plantar fasciitis. Back in the late 90's, I had it so bad, that my husband would have to help me to the bathroom if I needed to go in the wee hours or at first getting up, cause I'd be a hobbled, crippled woman. Walking was like having knives stabbed into the soles of my feet.

I got the cortison shots. (OWIE!)
I did the 3 times a day icing.
I took the OTC anti-inflammatories/analgesics.
I did the stretching exercises, including the one with the belt at first rising (kept my husband's leather belt on the headboard for handiness).
I got orthotics.
I wore, for 18 -20 months, nothing but sneakers and flat-heeled boots with the orthotics. (Yes, no pretty, girlie shoes for nearly two years.)

That fixed me up. I stopped having the middle of the night agonies, the early morning torture.

I did have to give up heels as anything but a once-in-a-while, special occasion treat. I eventually invested in all well-cusioned shoes--Naturalizer, Easy Spirit, Hush Puppies, Softspots, Propet, Cloudwalkers--even the dressier ones. I adapted my wardrobe, getting rid of most dresses and skirts and switching to pants and generally "sportier" wear that allowed me to wear flat pumps, skimmers, Rockport boots, sneakers, moccasins, and low-chunkier heeled Mary Janes, etc, without feeling weird. Heck, I even tried Birkenstocks (ugly and didn't really help).

In the end, I adapted to make my feet happy. I can wear cuter shoes now, but they're all well-cushioned in the soles. I haven't used the orthotic in years. Stilettos are not in my vocabulary.

The Princess

This is a topic I am well versed on. After doing all the suggestions above, I finally got rid of it and it only took less than a week!!!!

If you get the plantar fasciitis BOOTS that you wear to bed, you will be cured in less than a week (I know I just realized I sound like Kimmer, lol). I have done this, then my hubby, then my sister, then my friend. All cured in a matter of days.

These boots remind me of Herman Munster, in that they are big. They keep your feet in a flexed position stretching your Achilles tendon. You need to wear them while you sleep and do not take them off. You can walk to the bathroom in them, but thats about it. You can also wear them while skimming this thread for hours, lol.

Along with the Advil or Aleve and other stretches and icing it when you can, you will be cured. I promise.

You can get the boots from a doctor or you can get them online. Just Google it and you will find some. They work miracles.

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