Why the fascination with Kimmer? #7

[hippiegirl]

Originally Posted by mrsmenopausal

I made dinner but it was wash your own fork night.

I am so. stealing. that. idea!

Kim

[regandy]

Originally Posted by dlslds

I thought Regandy said that the cruise is still happenin! they just took the evil Kimkins word out and it's a lowcarb family and friends fun meetup type of thing. I bet they all have a blast, I thought I read they are going to have games and prizes (maybe a red dress is first prize ) I wish I could go, it sounds like good people and good fun!

We're goin' on a cruu--uise!

You bet! Cruise is STILL on with 50 people going so far.

[MJR]

Hey - where did everyone go?
Did I get left behind or what ? - did you guys move somewhere else and not tell me?
That's not nice!
I know I don't post much.... but I'm one of you - I just don't want to get booted yet over there.... NOT YET~
I promise to post more when I do get the boot.

Which could be soon if I keep running my mouth (or moving my fingers)

[TerryC]

Dr. Mark has answered the email I sent him...

Well,
I must say that I never expected such a quick and strange response to my postings on kimkins web site.

I only know of Kimkins what I have read from the site itself, as of four days ago. It seems as though it is a carb restrictive plan that is meant to be temporary and allows for unlimited protein....therefore not restricting calories. Seems like a decent plan to me, especially for the morbidly obese. People 50 lbs or more overweight are in a serious, life threatening condition that should be treated with urgency.

Is is what I give my patients, no. I do metabolic typing that is much more specific and personal.

My role, as I see it, in the Kimkins site is not to defend the site or the diet. It is to help people along the path with questions they may have about side effects and implementing "life" into their new program.

Again, I am not aware of the programs past, only the present things I "see" while online. I am in the profession to help as many people as possible and have always been known for that. I have seen Kimkins forum as another means of accomplishing this goal.

I assure you, as with everything else in my career, I will look into the diet more extensively. I will look into the integrity of the organization. I will try to descern if "mistakes" have been made and they are moving forward........Basically, if their heart is in the right place (not talking about anatomically here).

I appreciate your concerns. Please realize that I too, care for my patients, and the weight loss community with all my being. I just want to help people get the answers and results they deserve.

Mark


I think he is sincere, so I replied and implored him to really check out all the links I sent him previously so that he doesn't get caught in the backlash of what is coming.

[MJR]

I thought I read that he sent this same email (word for word) to someone else?

[CarolynF]

Terry: I think you got the same "pat" email that several of our gals got..We are all hoping that Dr. Mark sees the light for what it is, too..

Working for Kimkins is like standing under a tree in a lightening storm..YIKES!!!

[HoneyBee2]

Has anyone been able to verify that Dr. Mark's website was actually changed? Although, I don't agree with most of his actions up to this point I don't think he made any changes to his site.
His site reads the same to me as it did when he was first introduced at Kimkins.
When I attemtped to use the wayback machine it did not find his site and that is why I asked if anyone else had been able to verify.

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by tiggerr

Tight calves and most likely a touch of Plantar.
Your hamstrings run from your butt to the back of your knee.

I have the same problem, you need to stretch, stretch, stretch.
Do it before bed and as soon as you are a little warm.

Thanks!!

Originally Posted by LindaSue

The Wayback Machine only shows the Kimkins site before August 2007. This may be old news but I found three different quotes by Kimmer on her site that contradict each other (big surprise). Note that the quotes span a period of about 9 months yet she adds 2 years to the amount of time she's been maintaining between the August 2006 quote and the and May 2007 quote.

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

:

I served my husband dinner on a regular plate and even washed it.

Show off!

Originally Posted by MissMerize

It is deceiving and wrong to keep a post of a member stickied up that doesn't support the diet anymore.

The new owners really should take it down.

Topic is sticky.
Christin's FAQ - HOW I DID IT (you can too!) by Christin [Page: 1...51,52,53

Also illegal. She was served a cease and desist from Christin.

[TerryC]

Originally Posted by CarolynF

Terry: I think you got the same "pat" email that several of our gals got..We are all hoping that Dr. Mark sees the light for what it is, too..

Working for Kimkins is like standing under a tree in a lightening storm..YIKES!!!

Carolyn - I think you are right about the answer, let's hope he will check it out. He seems sincere to me.

[McLurkypants]

Originally Posted by Jazlyn

I think she says certain celebrities have tried "kimkins like" diets. I can't remember now who they are.

I'm not sure any celebrities actually tried it, but I remember something posted early on in these threads (from Catherine or somebody close to the hub of Kimkins back then) about Heidi using Jessica Alba's name as a celeb who was on a "Kimkins-like" diet. There was another but I can't recall who....Bueller?...

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by TerryC

Dr. Mark has answered the email I sent him...
Well,
I must say that I never expected such a quick and strange response to my postings on kimkins web site.
I only know of Kimkins what I have read from the site itself, as of four days ago. It seems as though it is a carb restrictive plan that is meant to be temporary and allows for unlimited protein....therefore not restricting calories. Seems like a decent plan to me, especially for the morbidly obese. People 50 lbs or more overweight are in a serious, life threatening condition that should be treated with urgency.
Is is what I give my patients, no. I do metabolic typing that is much more specific and personal.
My role, as I see it, in the Kimkins site is not to defend the site or the diet. It is to help people along the path with questions they may have about side effects and implementing "life" into their new program.
Again, I am not aware of the programs past, only the present things I "see" while online. I am in the profession to help as many people as possible and have always been known for that. I have seen Kimkins forum as another means of accomplishing this goal.
I assure you, as with everything else in my career, I will look into the diet more extensively. I will look into the integrity of the organization. I will try to descern if "mistakes" have been made and they are moving forward........Basically, if their heart is in the right place (not talking about anatomically here).
I appreciate your concerns. Please realize that I too, care for my patients, and the weight loss community with all my being. I just want to help people get the answers and results they deserve.
Mark.
I think he is sincere, so I replied and implored him to really check out all the links I sent him previously so that he doesn't get caught in the backlash of what is coming.

That is the same letter that he sent Laura I believe was the name of the person who got a response back earlier.
Not that you are not special TerryC, because you are and we know it.
But he did reply it that manner word for word.

[SMP]

Originally Posted by ryudragon

It looks like the only active license he holds is for Acupuncture. On his site he claims he "combines modalities from massage, bodywork, physical therapy, chiropractic, chinese medicine and osteopathic medicine to give you exactly what your condition requires." I take exception to the fact that he is performing potentially dangerous modalities without proper licensure. A person can not perform chiropractic modalities without being a licensed chiropractor -- this is a fact. There is a very good reason why chiropractorhave to sit their behinds in school and pass tests. The amount of harm he can do to one of his 'live' patients in mind blowing.

I'd like to point out that most of the modalities listed above are physical hands-on stuff, and I've yet to see a cyber manipulation. It's entirely possible that he doesn't go beyond his accreditation in "real" life; so that leaves only his nutritional postings to criticise. And criticise them we have. But as of yet, I haven't seen him post anything beyond what any of us could lift off the net and post as research.(Although I'm just as sure most of us could do a better job of spelling and researching.)

I feel bad if someone at KK takes some bad advice without checking the facts; I feel worse for an unsuspecting client who gets screwed up because Dr. Mark thinks he has the right to perform procedures he has no business doing. I applaud alternative medicine; I applaud those who take the time and effort to learn their fields and obtain proper licensure. Maybe he does have a Chiropractic license, maybe he does have a PT license (hiding somewhere) -- it's for the proper authorities to discover. The Florida Department of Health Division of Medical Quality Assurance Board of Chiropractic Medicine is aware of the situation. I'm sorry if it offends anyone, but I couldn't live with myself knowing that this Doctor may be putting peoples physical beings in harms way. If he is legit, then having the board where he is certified check him out does no harm; if he's a quack practicing without proper credentials, then he deserves reprimand. It's great to make a buck -- dh could perform chiropractic modalities on the sly and pull in more money, but he has ethics (and would have his real licenses pulled faster than I could sneeze). Just my 2 cents.

We all have our lines in the sand. I respect that this is yours. Maybe because I am an avid researcher of medical issues affecting friends and family, I have learned to separate the wheat from the chaff. (Or else delude myself that I have .) So his advice is no better nor worse than much of the stuff I've come across, and I personally would take what I perceive to be useful , or at the very least, harmless, and discard the rest. One of my failings is that I expect intelligent others to do the same. I'm sure there are others like me both here and in KK land. I hope so, but have to wonder.

[klmeyer]

Originally Posted by McLurkypants

I'm not sure any celebrities actually tried it, but I remember something posted early on in these threads (from Catherine or somebody close to the hub of Kimkins back then) about Heidi using Jessica Alba's name as a celeb who was on a "Kimkins-like" diet. There was another but I can't recall who....Bueller?...

It seems to me celebrities will try just about anything as long as it will keep them skinny. So I'm sure there are several that starved themselves to get to a goal weight after a heftier movie role or before a big awards show.

[HoneyBee2]

Mrs. McLurky would you explain again how you were said if one is using IE that they can verify the date of the website page change?
Are you saying click on the page of the site you are on and then click on properties to find out the update of that page?
Would that not just give you the date your loaded the page? I say this because if I don't shut down my computer and the screen is there it will show the day I pulled up that website in the window.
I think I may have misunderstood what you were saying would work.

[CarolynF]

I think Lindsay Lohan was on Kimkins, too. After she got out of rehab, she called Kimmer for some special pointers. They had lunch and Kimmer gave her an introductory offer to join Kimkins for free. That is, in exchange for using her picture on her advertisements. Lindsay was "thrilled" to be part of the Kimkins Team. It was like.."community service".

[HoneyBee2]

From the kimpound:

Re:Kimmer question 5 Minutes ago
Wish someone would tell us why Kimmer sold out & who is this Dr. Mark? What credentials does he have & why would he be better to tell us about Kimmer than Kimmer herself? I posted this on a thread yesterday hoping an Admin would reply but I believe it got deleted. Why the big secret?

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by pennink

I hope this hasn't been answered as I'm not waiting until I get through all the posts. Sounds like a 'charlie horse' to me. Can be quite painful. It's due to lack of potassium (often if I drink too much water and not take my vitamins). I got them a LOT on KK.

Thanks. I don't think it's that because I've had them in my calves and this is different.

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

My 84 year old mother gets charlie horses in bed and the doc prescribed a Quinine RX. She said it works great! I've also heard that putting a certain brand of bar soap under your sheet down around your legs work. I know it sounds strange but I've read testimonials and apparently it works for many people.

A friend does this and swears by it. She uses green palmolive soap. They say Dove doesn't work, though. I may have to give that a try. I'd forgotten about it.

[SMP]

Originally Posted by Piekinns

I was wondering the same thing......

A doctor who is uncomfortable with the word "naked" might have an aversion to using proper medical terms with a bunch of overweight women naive enough to take advice from a cyber medico. I'm thinking there is a more sinister reason which Quigley rightly refuses to share, as it's harmful gossip. Colour me suspicious.

[CarolynF]

Quote:
Re:Kimmer question 5 Minutes ago
Wish someone would tell us why Kimmer sold out & who is this Dr. Mark? What credentials does he have & why would he be better to tell us about Kimmer than Kimmer herself? I posted this on a thread yesterday hoping an Admin would reply but I believe it got deleted. Why the big secret?


Obviously, Kimkins has become a "bait and switch" operation. They "bait" their potential newbies with the alluring Kimmer (who has lost 200 pounds), then they "switch" and replace Kimmer with a man. What a bummer..At least Dr. Mark is in control of his eating..so that is a plus...

This poor gal thought Kimmer had CREDENTIALS? LOLOL

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by TerryC

Dr. Mark has answered the email I sent him...

Well,
I must say that I never expected such a quick and strange response to my postings on kimkins web site.

I only know of Kimkins what I have read from the site itself, as of four days ago. It seems as though it is a carb restrictive plan that is meant to be temporary and allows for unlimited protein....therefore not restricting calories. Seems like a decent plan to me, especially for the morbidly obese. People 50 lbs or more overweight are in a serious, life threatening condition that should be treated with urgency.

Is is what I give my patients, no. I do metabolic typing that is much more specific and personal.

My role, as I see it, in the Kimkins site is not to defend the site or the diet. It is to help people along the path with questions they may have about side effects and implementing "life" into their new program.

Again, I am not aware of the programs past, only the present things I "see" while online. I am in the profession to help as many people as possible and have always been known for that. I have seen Kimkins forum as another means of accomplishing this goal.

I assure you, as with everything else in my career, I will look into the diet more extensively. I will look into the integrity of the organization. I will try to descern if "mistakes" have been made and they are moving forward........Basically, if their heart is in the right place (not talking about anatomically here).

I appreciate your concerns. Please realize that I too, care for my patients, and the weight loss community with all my being. I just want to help people get the answers and results they deserve.

Mark


I think he is sincere, so I replied and implored him to really check out all the links I sent him previously so that he doesn't get caught in the backlash of what is coming.

It's a prepared response. It's the same email, as far as I can tell, that others got who emailed him.

[Chelveston]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Mrs. McLurky would you explain again how you were said if one is using IE that they can verify the date of the website page change?
Are you saying click on the page of the site you are on and then click on properties to find out the update of that page?
Would that not just give you the date your loaded the page?

I'm not Mrs. McLurky, but I've been playing with my browsers.

In IE, the properties (right click & "properties" or "properties" from the File tab) give me the date I pulled up the page.

In Firefox, if I right click on the page and select "View Page Info" I get the date modified. For "Dr." Mark's home page I get "Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:32:07 PM"

ETA: For Netscape, right click on the page and select "View Page Info" and I get the same thing for date modified (Oct 3, 2:32:07 PM).

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by Chelveston

I'm not Mrs. McLurky, but I've been playing with my browsers.

In IE, the properties give me the date I pulled up the page. In Firefox, if I right click on the page and select "View Page Info" I get the date modified. For "Dr." Mark's home page I get "Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:32:07 PM"

Thank you for looking at that information. Can you also verify the date when you are viewing the FAQ page and the "Meet Dr. Brinson" page? I may be able to view via firefox as well. bbl

[Sheridan]

Originally Posted by ShellyW

What about a place like myspace where as long as your invited you can see it? You could post The important things there where only invites could see. Invite everyone from here with a link to the site. If they want to be invited they could email. They could then be checked to make sure they are not fans of KK and go from there. If they have been recently banned you could verify and invite them in.

I have been a member of several very closely vetted and tightly secured forums over the years. Without fail, each one of them has suffered a breech. If you don't want something posted on the internet, DON'T POST IT ON THE INTERNET, PERIOD.

The problem also compounds itself because not only do you have information leaked to the "outside", but it creates an incredibly horrible environment of paranoia and distrust amongst the members. I would very much hate to see that happen here!