Why the fascination with Kimmer? #7

[MissMerize]

i plan on starting this weekend if all goes well
my dr. reccomeneded this diet to me today

(this lady just signed up like today)


Now who could her doctor be, hhhhmmmmmm, Let me think...

[MissMerize]

HEY! Look at me everybody!
<---------------------- 3 days and I'm a senior member!!!!

[anipomoni]

Originally Posted by TerryC

tiggerr - I don't really understand all the thyroid and metabolism stuff, it is all new to me, so I hope my question is not dumb...what has caused that for you? Was it dieting a lot or just your body getting a disease? And you were in no way fat - I looked at your pictures - just pleasantly plump.

THYROID WEIGHT RESEARCH

http://www.hormoneandlongevitycenter...n_Obesity1.pdf

Effect of a high-protein, very-low-calorie diet on...[Am J Clin Nutr. 1987] - PubMed Result

Resting metabolic rate, body composition and thyroid hormones. Short term effects of very low calorie diet.

Energy-metabolism adaptation in obese adults on a very-low-calorie diet -- Fricker et al. 53 (4): 826 -- American Journal of Clinical Nutrition

index

Low Carbohydrate Nutrition: Research on the Safety of Very Low Calorie Diets

I know that the fat face thing for me has gotten better with thyroid treatment. I always used to skip meals....sometimes ALL day without eating until the evening.

[TerryC]

Originally Posted by MissMerize

i plan on starting this weekend if all goes well
my dr. reccomeneded this diet to me today

(this lady just signed up like today)


Now who could her doctor be, hhhhmmmmmm, Let me think...

What plan is she starting?

[htxfroggy]

HEY! Look at me everybody!
<---------------------- 3 days and I'm a senior member!!!!

wow!!

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by WildAngel6

Ok, if Kimmer REALLY sold the business, the website itself would also then be registered to the new owners as well, correct?

The website information is currently being protected by Domains by Proxy, but there are legal reasons that can convince them to reveal the owners.

See Domains by Proxy®: Legal Agreement

I bet the Class Action Lawsuit may be enough to get the information released.

What do you all think?

Yes, a Subpoena can get them to release the information of who it is registered to currently.
Another fact is that an ongoing investigation say of someone whose medical history comes into the picture and the medical records are needed. Well, the investigation itself does not give the investigator the right to get access to those medical records without a court order so this can slow down the process in many cases. But it doesn't prevent it from moving forward.
* note- This may vary from state to state.

ETA-Maid of Erin has posted the direct comment from the Domains by Proxy that states this. Good job Erin

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

Tippy's latest

"Re:Kimmer question 20 Minutes ago
Awww, you guys... You can still email Kimmer for help anytime. I thought everyone knew this! Here: AskKimmer@gmail.com.This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it

Now, about the new owners, Dr. Mark and our Fitness Guru... The new owners have not come forward to announce who they are as of yet. I can only guess that the reason may be because they do not want their reputations and personal lives ripped apart by the pitbulls. They have said business will operate as normal. We all know that when you put your name out there as a representitive of this site this is what happens. I am sure you have all seen it happening to me. Dr. Mark was kind enough to put his info out there anyways. He has recieved many emails from the hate club and worse they are actually targeting his place of work because their scare tactics did not work and he is still here. I only hope Dr. Mark sees thru these tactics for what they really are. As far as Fitness Guru, I have personally asked him NOT to put his info out there for the same reasons though he is very willing. I can assure you his credentuals are valid as a certified personal triainer. When the haters want to ruin your entire reputation, bother you at your job and do worse remaining private becomes very important. I am sure you can all understand this."

Bingo!

The new owners don't want to identify themselves?
She can't honestly believe there are NEW owners? No one on earth would buy into Heidi's mess. She is the one that has to clean it up before even thinking of selling it. I didn't know she had registered this "business" with the appropriate government agencies. What is she selling - a website? What's that worth? Why not just start your own instead of buying into a "business" that has been proven to be fraudulent?

[mirmir3]

If anyone should feel so inclined, and wish to forward Dr. Mark's website, including his FAQ's to the Florida Board of Chiropractic Medicine, he will get investigated for practicing without a license.

Florida Board of Chiropractic Medicine
Dept. of Health
Ann L. Broome, Regulation Specialist II

ann_broome@doh.state.fl.us

850-245-4355


Equivalent info for the Medical Board.... call 1-877-HALT ULA (halt unlicensed activity)
How to Report Unlicensed Activity

(Note: Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing.)
To report suspected unlicensed health care practice, call 1-877-HALT-ULA (1-877-425-8852), Email the Department at HALTULA@doh.state.fl.us or mail in a completed Uniform Complaint Form. The Uniform Complaint Form is available online.

To file a complaint on a non-medical related business or profession, please visit the Department of Business and Professional Regulation.

How To File a Complaint of Unlicensed Activity

The division’s Enforcement Unit analyzes complaints and reports involving suspected unlicensed health care practice and initiates investigations when appropriate. Effective complaints must include, verifiable information and as many specific details as possible. Anonymous complaints will be reviewed; however, they may be difficult to pursue unless they include evidence of the allegations made.

[htxfroggy]

Why not just start your own instead of buying into a "business" that has been proven to be fraudulent?

__________________

My thoughts exactly!

[MissMerize]

Wow, sounds like we're a bunch of "evil doers"

[ryudragon]

Originally Posted by mirmir3

I actually had to register so that I could add my 2Cents ...
I can understand the FL MT association not requiring FL licensure to teach. That is relatively common, as many professional programs will draw in instructors or seminars from other states. Usually the instructor needs to be licensed somewhere though, I have never heard of a completely unlic. person being able to teach a seminar that qualifies for continuing education credits.

That said, this Mark Brinson is violating a whole heap of laws. This is on his website:
Licensed as an Acupuncture Physician by the Florida Department of Health.
Dr. Brinson is considered as a Primary Care Physcian. His license covers a broad range of
therapies and testing. Included are all Manual Medicine and Physical Medicine modalities from
Osteopathy, Chiropractic, Physical Therapy, and Massage therapy. Additionally, all testing and
imaging (xray, mri, ct scan, bloodwork etc), injections, nutrition and addiction counseling as well as
the recomendation of over the counter medications is included.

.

For one thing, he is most certainly not a primary care physician. The US Dept. of Labor and/or the US Dept. of Education only recognize 3 types of providers as primary care physicians: MD's, DO's, and DC's. The fact that Dr MarkyMark claims on his website that he uses chiropractic and osteopathic manipulation, is a direct violation of state law, in fact, if he were reported to the medical board, he could be charged with practicing medicine and practicing chiropratic without a license. He could also be charged with performing physical therapy without a license. As a chiropractor, I am unaware that his license allows him to perform radiographic studies, ct scans, mri's, perform injections, etc.

Either this guy is a complete wackjob, or someone has highjacked his identity to continue the KK hoax.

If I advertised half of the things that this fellow has written on his website, I'd lose my license by the end the the day.

Great post mirmir! This 'Dr' Mark is a fraud and I think your post has done an excellent job of pointing this out. It's bad enough that he's doling out some bad advice that can potentially hurt someone over at KK if they don't bother to check with a real doctor because they only look at his 'title' and think he's legit. . . I have to admit I'm more concerned for those unsuspecting 'real' people he has for clients. . . can you imagine the harm he can do by performing manipulations without proper training and credentials? As far as not keeping his mt license up to date. . . I don't know. Is everyone sure that he let it lapse, or that maybe there was some sort of complaint and it was pulled? I haven't had the time to check. It doesn't take a whole heck of a lot to keep a mt license active, just some ce credits and a bit of cash. I really can't imagine why a person who gives mt seminars and teaches at a mt school would just let their license lapse for no reason.

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by WildAngel6

Ok, if Kimmer REALLY sold the business, the website itself would also then be registered to the new owners as well, correct?

The website information is currently being protected by Domains by Proxy, but there are legal reasons that can convince them to reveal the owners.

See Domains by Proxy®: Legal Agreement

I bet the Class Action Lawsuit may be enough to get the information released.

What do you all think?

I have a question ...... way way back on #1 fascination thread didn't someone find out that the Kimkins website was registered to Heidi Diaz? If it had been sold - wouldn't that same website show the new owners? I can't remember what website they went to and I'll try to find it. Wish me luck!!!

[MissMerize]

"and the lord said to them, thou shalt not worship false idols, for I am the one and only Kimkins"

[jlshields]

Originally Posted by Randy

I heard that, too. It has 7g of sugar, the second ingredient is fructose.

You'd be better off repacing a meal with "Randy's Breakfast Pudding."

A serving of Dannon Carb Control vanilla yogurt mixed with a tablespoon of crunchy pnb. 160 calories and 5 net carbs.

I was not recommending this plan, only saying that one of kimkins alternate plans is the shake option which consists of three meal replacement shakes a day and they reocmmend shakes that contain 150 calories for a total of 450 calories a day. These only have 70 calories so they (kimkins followers) could go even deeper into starvation calorie levels. I guess my attempt at sarcasm kind of fizzled.

[MissMerize]

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

I have a question ...... way way back on #1 fascination thread didn't someone find out that the Kimkins website was registered to Heidi Diaz? If it had been sold - wouldn't that same website show the new owners? I can't remember what website they went to and I'll try to find it. Wish me luck!!!

You won't find it - there's a 60 day thing going on with the transfer. Well, maybe you will, but this was the problem I had.

[Randy]

Originally Posted by jlshields

I was not recommending this plan, only saying that one of kimkins alternate plans is the shake option which consists of three meal replacement shakes a day and they reocmmend shakes that contain 150 calories for a total of 450 calories a day. These only have 70 calories so they (kimkins followers) could go even deeper into starvation calorie levels. I guess my attempt at sarcasm kind of fizzled.

Oh no, Jeanne, I was following you!

I just checked out that 70 calorie meal replacement and I wanted to pass along to folks that it has a pretty good amount of sugar.

[MissMerize]

Ok Ladies (and gents). I think we can get this into the next thread by midnight.

[SMP]

Originally Posted by Dottie

But... when someone presents themselves as a "doctor" (or other title that denotes some expertise), doesn't that open them up to scrutiny when their "professional" advice is questionable? Especially, as in this scenario, when giving medical advice without the benefit of getting a history from the "patient"?

He has certainly opened himself up to scrutiny, and I am REALLY not impressed with his answers to date, Dottie. But please note, the "patient" diagnosed herself, and all he's giving is his opinion of what could be done for that particular diagnosis.(And that was a poor job!)

But that's a far cry from reporting him to the State Medical Board, tracking down his Asian ex-wife and getting any dirty goods on him. Because exes have been known to try to destroy their former mates out of vindictiveness, hers would be tainted by suspicions in any case.

I am not comfortable with the idea that because someone has different ethics than myself, or his advice differs from mine, I have the right - no, DUTY - to take him down. I do not, at this point, lump him in with Heidi, nor even with TT. If the situation changes, then possibly my opinion will do a 180*. But then, much as I like to Google medical items on the Net, I do not believe everything I read, and I do practice Caveat Emptor! The only victims over on KK left after the intense info blitz of the past weeks are willing ones.

At this point, this is my line in the sand.

[hippiegirl]

Originally Posted by MissMerize

Ok Ladies (and gents). I think we can get this into the next thread by midnight.

I love your enthusiasm! And I have to say, you're a "quack" study!

Kim

[gibster]

Well, that's it - I've been banished to banned camp!

Reason : TOS VIOLATION

[cgkane]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

"Coffee, regular, NS as to ground or instant ( 2 coffee cup (6 fl oz) ) 7 0 1 0
Margarine-like spread, fat free, liquid, salted ( 1 tablespoon ) 6 0 0 0
Orbit Gum ( 1 serving ) 5 0 1 0
Peanuts, roasted, salted ( 0.25 cup, NFS ) 209 18 7 9
eggbeaters ( 0.25 cup ) 30 0 1 6
flax oil capsule (3) ( 1 serving ) 25 3 0 0
whey protein vanilla ( 1 serving ) 120 2 2 23
Mixed salad greens, raw ( 0.25 cup, shredded or or chopped ) 18 0 3 2
Total 638 19 8 103 "

"Coffee, regular, NS as to ground or instant ( 2 coffee cup (6 fl oz) ) 7 0 1 0
Margarine-like spread, fat free, liquid, salted ( 1 tablespoon ) 6 0 0 0
Orbit Gum ( 1 serving ) 5 0 1 0
Peanuts, roasted, salted ( 0.25 cup, NFS ) 209 18 7 9
eggbeaters ( 0.25 cup ) 30 0 1 6
whey protein vanilla ( 1 serving ) 120 2 2 23
Beans, string, green, cooked, from frozen, fat not added in cooking ( 1.5 cup, frozen ) 56 0 13 3
Beef steak, NS as to cooking method, lean only eaten ( 7 oz, boneless, cooked (yield after fat removed) ) 359 14 0 53
Total 792 35 26 95"


"Coffee, regular, NS as to ground or instant ( 3 coffee cup (6 fl oz) ) 11 0 2 1
Peanuts, roasted, salted ( 0.25 cup, NFS ) 209 18 7 9
flax oil capsule (3) ( 1 serving ) 25 3 0 0
Salmon, baked or broiled ( 7 oz, boneless, cooked ) 341 15 1 48
Beans, string, green, cooked, from frozen, fat not added in cooking ( 2 cup, frozen ) 75 0 17 4
Total 661 36 27 62"


This "Kimkinette" is proud she has gotten her eating up to these amounts...It looks like peanuts are one meal for her and the protein & veggie are her other meal. Wow-I feel like a pig.

It just breaks my heart to see people are still starving themselves all in the name of following a diet by the name of Kimkins.

*back to reading*

[MissMerize]

Originally Posted by hippiegirl

I love your enthusiasm! And I have to say, you're a "quack" study!

Kim

Why thanks! I'm pretty Quack on the draw.

[Sheridan]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

I feel sorry for his gain but should Tarvosk be an Admin giving out eating advice?

"Re:Who's up for a challenge? 1 Hour, 4 Minutes ago
Well it seems that stress has again caused me to gain weight.

I have been working for the past 2 weeks at getting hired by a company for their service/support manager, but the stress of waiting to hear and trying to figure out if I am good enough for the job has made me eat a bit more. Needless to say I have put on 13 lbs since last week.

CW - 409.0

So I suppose my earlier comment/statement that I would never see the high side of 400 again was a bit exagerated. Oh well all I can do is try to press on."

I suppose it's possible for someone to gain 13 lbs in a week, and if that's true, it explains why that same person would feel OK about losing 13 lbs or more in a week.

I am overweight, no two ways about it. But I didn't gain all of it in big chunks. I gain exactly as I lose, a pound or two a week. Personally, I think if I were to try to GAIN 13 lbs in one week, I would feel as physically ill as if I were to try to LOSE 13 lbs in a week.

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

Happy Hump Day all!

Here is a list of the advertisers for the Woman's World Magazine that featured KK's on the cover. A couple of these were contests that are no longer going on (ford and passions) but the parent companies may still be interested to know they're dealing with a dis-reputable rag of a mag!

Also, I just wrote a negative review of WW on Epinions yesterday and got 7 reviews (all positive) by this morning. I know that's a very small ripple in the whole scheme