Why the fascination with Kimmer? #7

[TerryC]

Originally Posted by Krisis

From Tippy regarding the where is Kimmer/who are new owners? I should learn how to quote.

Awww, you guys... You can still email Kimmer for help anytime. I thought everyone knew this! Here: AskKimmer@gmail.com.This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it

Now, about the new owners, Dr. Mark and our Fitness Guru... The new owners have not come forward to announce who they are as of yet. I can only guess that the reason may be because they do not want their reputations and personal lives ripped apart by the pitbulls. They have said business will operate as normal. We all know that when you put your name out there as a representitive of this site this is what happens. I am sure you have all seen it happening to me. Dr. Mark was kind enough to put his info out there anyways. He has recieved many emails from the hate club and worse they are actually targeting his place of work because their scare tactics did not work and he is still here. I only hope Dr. Mark sees thru these tactics for what they really are. As far as Fitness Guru, I have personally asked him NOT to put his info out there for the same reasons though he is very willing. I can assure you his credentuals are valid as a certified personal triainer. When the haters want to ruin your entire reputation, bother you at your job and do worse remaining private becomes very important. I am sure you can all understand this.

It just occurred to me that perhaps Tippy really believes that there are new owners.

So Dr. Mark got the emails and is ignoring them...

[JustKim]

Originally Posted by Krisis

As far as Fitness Guru, I have personally asked him NOT to put his info out there for the same reasons though he is very willing. I can assure you his credentuals are valid as a certified personal triainer. When the haters want to ruin your entire reputation, bother you at your job and do worse remaining private becomes very important. I am sure you can all understand this.

No, I do not understand this. If he is going to be giving "expert" opinion I want to know specifically what his qualifications are. His "credentials" (tsk tippy) are the basis for his advice and need to be known - specifically.

1) Education
2) Certification
3) License
4) Experience
5) Bonus - research or publication

[Khewes]

N/M
I read it wrong.

Carry on....

[Locarb4me]

Originally Posted by WildAngel6

There are probably two very BIG reasons why the Kimkins Diet does not encourage exercise:

#2. Kimmer KNOWS that if people are trying to exercise while on a VLCD the negative side effects will undoubtedly reveal themselves much sooner that way. There would be more people fainting, feeling dizzy, etc., as well. You can barely exist on so few calories, let alone exercise successfully. If Kimkins WERE to encourage exercise, most of these starving and malnourished bodies simply couldn't handle it, so folks would become aware of the dangers more easily.

Yep, that was the wake-up call for me.

[mirmir3]

Originally Posted by JustKim

sorry but I doubt he HAS any medical books he's an accupunturist

I want to know what is supposed undergraduate degree was in...

I also wonder why the 2 year doctorate of oriental medicine took him 4 years

I want to know where he did is supposed 3000 hour internship

I still say that Dr .mark needs to be reported to the medical licensing board and the chiropractic licensing board. Florida is a PITA to get licensed in, they are very stringent - there is no way that he would be allowed to keep his license. Based on his claims on his website alone, he would be subject to a full scale investigation. If it is shown that he id providing medical advice online, he would almost surely lose his license.

[JustKim]

Originally Posted by Khewes

N/M
I read it wrong.

Carry on....

I still firmly believe Dr. mark and fitness guru are one and the same. Dr. mark was originally presented as being a certified personal trainer too (CHEK guy bummer but anyways) It was just too "convenient"

If te advice he gives as a "personal trainer" sucks as much as the advice he gives as "dr mark" (why does it make me ill to type that??) then the members there are really getting screwed

[SMP]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

You really feel Heidi is gone? I ask because I don't get that same feeling in reading and watching things that have been posted here from kimkins.

The truly brainwashed have adopted their Master's viewpoint even to the extreme of imitating her speech patterns and favourite sayings. But I feel Heidi's ego canNOT handle the wholesale downgrading of HER plan, HER advice. Kimkins as it stands now is totally devoid of any true Kimmer stuff, and I don't think she'd be able to handle it. It smacks too much of her becoming a nonentity once again, after being a virtual goddess.

I also say that Tippy is not different than someone driving the get-away car after a jewelry store robbery. That person didn't hold the guns in the store, but they still participated by being there when the criminals came out and needed someone to help them make a smooth get-away, and the legal system still holds them responsible in their actions.

Since this isn't the same kind of crime , consider it from another viewpoint. Tippy is real. When she took over the website, she immediately started transforming it into a much more reasonable diet plan.It took time to remove all questionable success stories, because, AFASK, they were legit. (I'm sure Kimmer didn't point them out to her.) No, she used info taken from LCF to decide which ones needed immediate removal. The bannings were stupid and more than likely illegal.That is enough to bring Tippy down, and I think she will be caught in the undertow. I'm sure there's enough info out there already to make her very uneasy .

Dr. Mark, well if he looked at the news report and the information he was sent, like any innocent participating person would, then he will not be at KK in a few days. But if he continues to be there after the information being available then he is no different than the guy who buys those stolen pieces of jewelry and sells them to make a profit for him.

Sorry it's not in the same category. The site he walked into looks fairly respectable. (All that sanitizing had some results.) The advice he gives is so general as to be laughable, and he uses the standard cop-out to see your own doctor if you are worried. Also, the fact a FORMER owner pulled such cutesy illegal stunts doesn't mean the new owner is in the same category. At best, from an onlooker's POV, he's woefully lacking in good judgment. The last I heard, being really dumb is not a crime.

Again, still a player in the crime and would be seen as such by others and the legal system.

That is how I deem them, but I know we all have our own sense of what is right or wrong and I am not saying your viewpoint is wrong.
I only give you my perspective so you can understand how I regard the individuals still participating in a fraudulent business that was built on the lies and truly the loss of health of its members.

I may agree that the business was built on lies, and as such, it hopefully will collapse of its own internal decay as the Internet world becomes ever more aware of Heidi's scam. But there is also reason to think that this site as it stands is not Kimkins. If the judge disagrees with me, the business will collapse from various lawsuits, including entirely spurious ones (there are other scammers out there looking for a quick buck), and everything will go Poof! Maybe including all Tippy's business holdings. Or maybe Dr. Mark's. (Ever heard -you can't squeeze blood from a stone?)

Will the Law ever catch up to Heidi? I think so. Will she forever profit from her ill-gotten gains? They can take away all her money and her freedom, but they can't take away her internal satisfaction of pulling the biggest and best scam of her entire career. So yes, she WILL come out ahead, in her eyes.

I would understand if you bow out of pursuing Tippy Toes and Dr. Mark as individuals who are players in this fraud, but for me this is not a done deal.

We agree to disagree at this point, Honey. But well-done to date.

[Locarb4me]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

I feel sorry for his gain but should Tarvosk be an Admin giving out eating advice?

"Re:Who's up for a challenge? 1 Hour, 4 Minutes ago
Well it seems that stress has again caused me to gain weight.

I have been working for the past 2 weeks at getting hired by a company for their service/support manager, but the stress of waiting to hear and trying to figure out if I am good enough for the job has made me eat a bit more. Needless to say I have put on 13 lbs since last week.

CW - 409.0

So I suppose my earlier comment/statement that I would never see the high side of 400 again was a bit exagerated. Oh well all I can do is try to press on."

Like STRESS is this big monster, holding him down and shoving food into his face. What a cop-out. I live with constant stress, I know it affects our hunger and adrenals but come on......cop out, I say.

[missis36]

Originally Posted by CarolynF

Dr. Mark obviously doesn't know nonstickpam..our resident thryoid expert here..who would eat Dr. Mark for lunch..literally.

Hey..I was curious..how many of you guys gave to the KK Foster Care Fundraiser Scheme?It was last year, I believe.. Thanks..

WEll that's low carb at least

[lisabinil]

Dr. Mark's reply on the thryoid question-Yeah what she said.

"Rer. Mark ~~ I'm COLD! 33 Minutes ago
Listen to the woman!

If some of these things sound familiar they probably are.

Obesity and skipping too many meals really does a number on this organ.


The goal is to get your body regulated, better yet, self regulating.

More later....


Dr. Mark"

[Amyb1569]

Hey ladies,
I heard through the grapevine..lol. that I had been mentioned today. LOL
This is Amy B. I wanted to let you know that I am taking full control of my health. I was so upset with my medical report. I have always taken great care of my thyroid and been really happy that I had it under control for two years. Needless to say I was shocked when my normal level dropped to a very abnormal level of .05. I also was very shocked to learn that my Vit D level was abnormal at a level of 23.4. the Dr was sure this was a test error made to the fact I live in Fl and I am tan and always outside with 4 children. She re ran them and the new level was lower at 13.9. I am working closely with my Dr to fix these issues. In fact I will be seeing her tomorrow .
I did the kimkins diet and I lost weight. I also know that being so close to goal and not feeling good I need to learn to add more foods in. Heck what is the use of all of this if I end up sick or even worse.
I stay at KK because I am in a wonderful small group of ladies who support each other and try to focus on family and health. We have been in a race together for months.
I am working on a new plan that will help me get well fast.

[lisabinil]

Tippy's latest

"Re:Kimmer question 20 Minutes ago
Awww, you guys... You can still email Kimmer for help anytime. I thought everyone knew this! Here: AskKimmer@gmail.com.This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it

Now, about the new owners, Dr. Mark and our Fitness Guru... The new owners have not come forward to announce who they are as of yet. I can only guess that the reason may be because they do not want their reputations and personal lives ripped apart by the pitbulls. They have said business will operate as normal. We all know that when you put your name out there as a representitive of this site this is what happens. I am sure you have all seen it happening to me. Dr. Mark was kind enough to put his info out there anyways. He has recieved many emails from the hate club and worse they are actually targeting his place of work because their scare tactics did not work and he is still here. I only hope Dr. Mark sees thru these tactics for what they really are. As far as Fitness Guru, I have personally asked him NOT to put his info out there for the same reasons though he is very willing. I can assure you his credentuals are valid as a certified personal triainer. When the haters want to ruin your entire reputation, bother you at your job and do worse remaining private becomes very important. I am sure you can all understand this."

Bingo!

[OhYeahBabe]

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

FWIW - Amyb the lady who posted at KK's about thyroid problems is also at Curlygirl's forum if anyone wants to contact her. She posts there under the same username. She has a son with many, many health problems and has a site on him at caringbridge. I say all this to let you know she could probably use some extra support now if you want to say hi to her. She has a lot going on right now. Btw, I don't know Amyb personally, we've just exchanged some posts at Curlygirl's forum. She seems like a very nice geniune person.

Sorry, somewhat OT...carry on!

Oops, I hope she was ready to get banned! Between health issues and posting at another site, she's going to be a target now.

ETA: AmyB - good to hear from you. Good luck!

[lisabinil]

Originally Posted by Amyb1569

Hey ladies,
I heard through the grapevine..lol. that I had been mentioned today. LOL
This is Amy B. I wanted to let you know that I am taking full control of my health. I was so upset with my medical report. I have always taken great care of my thyroid and been really happy that I had it under control for two years. Needless to say I was shocked when my normal level dropped to a very abnormal level of .05. I also was very shocked to learn that my Vit D level was abnormal at a level of 23.4. the Dr was sure this was a test error made to the fact I live in Fl and I am tan and always outside with 4 children. She re ran them and the new level was lower at 13.9. I am working closely with my Dr to fix these issues. In fact I will be seeing her tomorrow .
I did the kimkins diet and I lost weight. I also know that being so close to goal and not feeling good I need to learn to add more foods in. Heck what is the use of all of this if I end up sick or even worse.
I stay at KK because I am in a wonderful small group of ladies who support each other and try to focus on family and health. We have been in a race together for months.
I am working on a new plan that will help me get well fast.

Glad to see you're so positive and willing to help others! Good luck with your health issues and I hope you & your family are doing well. I have looked at the CaringBridge site and you must be a remarkable woman.

[Violet Skye]

Originally Posted by Krisis

From Tippy regarding the where is Kimmer/who are new owners? I should learn how to quote.

Awww, you guys... You can still email Kimmer for help anytime. I thought everyone knew this! Here: AskKimmer@gmail.com.This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it

Now, about the new owners, Dr. Mark and our Fitness Guru... The new owners have not come forward to announce who they are as of yet. I can only guess that the reason may be because they do not want their reputations and personal lives ripped apart by the pitbulls. They have said business will operate as normal. We all know that when you put your name out there as a representitive of this site this is what happens. I am sure you have all seen it happening to me. Dr. Mark was kind enough to put his info out there anyways. He has recieved many emails from the hate club and worse they are actually targeting his place of work because their scare tactics did not work and he is still here. I only hope Dr. Mark sees thru these tactics for what they really are. As far as Fitness Guru, I have personally asked him NOT to put his info out there for the same reasons though he is very willing. I can assure you his credentuals are valid as a certified personal triainer. When the haters want to ruin your entire reputation, bother you at your job and do worse remaining private becomes very important. I am sure you can all understand this.

I hope Dr. Mark has a Kevlar diploma because his "credentuals" certainly aren't bullet-proof. (For his next test, let's see if he can distinguish between "abduction" and "adduction".) I actually thought we were trying to protect the good *doctor* by making sure that he knows what he's bought into. I guess he's already in deep financially, and doesn't want to/can't extricate himself from the morass. As for Fitness Guru, the utter lack of information about this International Man of Mystery makes it impossible for me to comment.

So, I'll content myself with a refreshing glass of Hater-Ade and maybe some Hater Tots dipped in Ranch dressing. Anyone for snack? I've got plenty.

[TeresaAnne]

Originally Posted by TerryC

It just occurred to me that perhaps Tippy really believes that there are new owners.

So Dr. Mark got the emails and is ignoring them...

Sure, we all have to KEEP in MIND that it's PROVEN that Tippy and Dr. Mark go back in time, and that they are friends! Have been, in fact, and this is not a budding relationship.

If he truly got the emails, and does not respond, he is clearly hiding something and acting most unprofessional to not even address the matter himself. Smacks of a serious lack of integrity, frankly, for saying how much he wants open communication and how important honesty is to him! That lack of coming forth and even speaking of their friendship sheds great light for concern, in my opinion. What's to hide?

Mind you, I certainly wish nobody an ill reputation, but it's peculiar that he has evidently informed the attempts at contact to Tippy who (according to this post, guessing that came from the kimkins site or forum?) is willing to stand the gap or run any interference?

Bottom line, we must all remember that they are friends, and have been! And that he is showing that he is going to be loyal, with or without monetary compensation. I was hoping for otherwise, but by now it's quite clear if he has been presented with the evidence and ignores it, then he too is willing party as has been pointed out. So sad.

[Locarb4me]

Originally Posted by SMP

Are we losing our focus here? Originally we were trying to stop Heidi and Kimkins. I think we've done both, although we're still awaiting final proof. Heidi is gone, and Kimkins is a gutted shell of her diet, with only the name remaining. It probably will change as well in the near future.
I know the chase was exciting and ...ok, fascinating. It swallowed up my summer and is devouring my autumn. But I'm really concerned that we might become known as the LCF Vigilantes, who will go after and hunt down ex-mates (not friends, Serenity!) in order to milk them for juicy details that often have little to do with the problem at hand. I say leave Mark's and Tippy's ex's alone. In her favor, Tippy HAS lost a massive amount of weight, she has appeared as her fatter self and her slimmer self in public. She has bragged up and down the boards with verifiable weight loss, no matter what plans she used. I have learned to dislike Tippy through her own snarky words, but at least she's not a fraud. Liar maybe, she definitely has a poor memory and poor spelling skills. So I congratulate you girls on your bloodhound instincts and the common cause that brought us all together in united sisterhood. We learned so much, laughed and were stunned by so many posts. But I think it's time to call a halt on the searching for new dragons to slay, because innocent people can get hurt. That's just how I feel.

Sorry fellas, don't get all bent out of shape. I know you've popped in as well, but overwhelmingly this has been a girl Friday effort.

I agree with you.

[Locarb4me]

Originally Posted by Dottie

I thought gallbladder disease was caused primarily by lack of dietary fat (causing the gallbladder to go 'dormant' for lack of a better term)?

That's what I've read, too Dottie. My gb gave me FITS the first week after Kimkins trying to transition to a higher fat WOE.

[WildAngel6]

Originally Posted by Krisis

From Tippy regarding the where is Kimmer/who are new owners? I should learn how to quote.

Awww, you guys... You can still email Kimmer for help anytime. I thought everyone knew this! Here: AskKimmer@gmail.com.This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it

Now, about the new owners, Dr. Mark and our Fitness Guru... The new owners have not come forward to announce who they are as of yet. I can only guess that the reason may be because they do not want their reputations and personal lives ripped apart by the pitbulls. They have said business will operate as normal. We all know that when you put your name out there as a representitive of this site this is what happens. I am sure you have all seen it happening to me. Dr. Mark was kind enough to put his info out there anyways. He has recieved many emails from the hate club and worse they are actually targeting his place of work because their scare tactics did not work and he is still here. I only hope Dr. Mark sees thru these tactics for what they really are. As far as Fitness Guru, I have personally asked him NOT to put his info out there for the same reasons though he is very willing. I can assure you his credentuals are valid as a certified personal triainer. When the haters want to ruin your entire reputation, bother you at your job and do worse remaining private becomes very important. I am sure you can all understand this.

Ok, if Kimmer REALLY sold the business, the website itself would also then be registered to the new owners as well, correct?

The website information is currently being protected by Domains by Proxy, but there are legal reasons that can convince them to reveal the owners.

See Domains by Proxy®: Legal Agreement

I bet the Class Action Lawsuit may be enough to get the information released.

What do you all think?

[LosingToLive]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

You really feel Heidi is gone? I ask because I don't get that same feeling in reading and watching things that have been posted here from kimkins.

I also say that Tippy is not different than someone driving the get-away car after a jewelry store robbery. That person didn't hold the guns in the store, but they still participated by being there when the criminals came out and needed someone to help them make a smooth get-away, and the legal system still holds them responsible in their actions.

Dr. Mark, well if he looked at the news report and the information he was sent, like any innocent participating person would, then he will not be at KK in a few days. But if he continues to be there after the information being available then he is no different than the guy who buys those stolen pieces of jewelry and sells them to make a profit for him.
Again, still a player in the crime and would be seen as such by others and the legal system.

That is how I deem them, but I know we all have our own sense of what is right or wrong and I am not saying your viewpoint is wrong.
I only give you my perspective so you can understand how I regard the individuals still participating in a fraudulent business that was built on the lies and truly the loss of health of its members.

I would understand if you bow out of pursuing Tippy Toes and Dr. Mark as individuals who are players in this fraud, but for me this is not a done deal.

[Leashy]

Wait a minute... Dr Mark and Fitguru are the new owners of Kimkins? He's an owner after four days of researching the diet?


Oh, just a little fun fact regarding the 'artical' spelling... TT said 'artical' 22 times on this site and 'article' ONCE.

[gungadinn1997]

Originally Posted by gibster

gibster wrote:


b]WhiteLexus wrote:[/b]



Dr Mark wrote:


Well, I guess the Doc knows best, huh? As long as you only have one symptom...........

THAT is HYPERthyroidism NOT HYPO!