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Old 10-09-2007, 11:42 AM   #691
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The other thing that occurs to me with all these changes: why would anyone pay ANYTHING to read information that is freely available on the dozens (hundreds?) of low-carb support sites?

The Atkins Diet is posted in detail FREE on their site, and they have a [FREE] discussion forum as well. With Kimmer gone, what exactly is being offered for $60? Even the diet has disappeared -- or morphed into the StillKimAtkins diet. And remember -- if you're tweaking it, it's not KimKins. Besides, how can anyone follow a diet that keeps changing and has NO MAINTENANCE PLAN!!
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:42 AM   #692
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:43 AM   #693
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I only know of Kimkins what I have read from the site itself, as of four days ago. It seems as though it is a carb restrictive plan that is meant to be temporary and allows for unlimited protein....therefore not restricting calories. Seems like a decent plan to me, especially for the morbidly obese. People 50 lbs or more overweight are in a serious, life threatening condition that should be treated with urgency.

#1. Four days and hes an expert? People better start questioning everything about him including his eye color after the Before/After photo fiasco. How can he represent something he's only known 4 days? For crap sake he went to college for everything else.

#2. Ment to be temporary? Heidi said herself that we could stay on the diet for as long as it took to loose the weight and that many people will use this plan for a lifetime to keep their weight in check. She said (I slap myself everytime I think of her "advice") that she would never be able to eat many carbs if she was to maintain her weight loss. I bet she was eating Krispy Kreme when she typed that too. Can anyone see if the new diet says temporary, maybe I missed it.
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:47 AM   #696
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#2. Ment to be temporary? Heidi said herself that we could stay on the diet for as long as it took to loose the weight and that many people will use this plan for a lifetime to keep their weight in check. She said (I slap myself everytime I think of her "advice") that she would never be able to eat many carbs if she was to maintain her weight loss. I bet she was eating Krispy Kreme when she typed that too. Can anyone see if the new diet says temporary, maybe I missed it.[/b]
I didn't see it on the diet plan that was posted yesterday for the wikipedia site. Is it in fine print somewhere?
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:48 AM   #697
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The Atkins Diet is posted in detail FREE on their site, and they have a [FREE] discussion forum as well. With Kimmer gone, what exactly is being offered for $60? Even the diet has disappeared -- or morphed into the StillKimAtkins diet. And remember -- if you're tweaking it, it's not KimKins. Besides, how can anyone follow a diet that keeps changing and has NO MAINTENANCE PLAN!!
What do you mean no Maintenance Plan? They're stealing,oops I mean borrowing the plans their members are coming up with on a daily basis. Built-in guinea pigs-the members paid $59.95 to come up with a plan themselves
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Wow, this just occurred to me. If you were to go to Kimkins site today and look at the plan, as it's being presented NOW, is it dangerous? Are they still advising people to starve themselves and take laxatives? I don't think they are. All the fake "before and after" pictures are gone. And Kimmer along with any reference to her amazing 200 pound loss (except a few stragglers in the newsletters, which I'm sure they'll pull eventually) is gone too.

Could it be that they have managed to transform Kimkins into a legitimate, safe diet site? We all know it didn't USED to be that way, but is that what people see now? Is that what the doctor is seeing? Is it possible that they've managed to scrub the site clean? We all know that Kimmer is still profiting from the website, and that's why it should go down in flames, but what if there is no connection between Kimmer and Kimkins anymore?

Even if the Dr. sees what happened in the past, what if he thinks that the diet has been reworked, that the site had disassociated itself from Kimmer? It seems to me that this is what they've been setting up all this time with the supposed change in ownership and the sudden yanking of all things Kimmer.

Hmmmm....

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I think they started thinking ahead the very minute they booked the WW article. The diet posted in WW as well as on the revamped site was NOTHING like the original diet presented here on LCF when Heidi was here and on the first version of Kimkins.com

Heidi knew there was no way that her plan, as originally put forth here and on the first version of the site, would have flown in the media. So she started then and there cleaning the diet up to make it more presentable to the media and the public. I'm pretty sure all along her plan was to ride the gravy train for as long as she could, have people in place to take the fall for her and then take off with the money she scammed people out of.
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Hi Everyone:
I am new here, but I was part of all the posting last night and have to say that you people rock!!! I just was looking at pics and there was a comment on one by Tippy Toes and said that she was last on line 10.9.07 at 6:21am.
Is she still here posting or just lurking?
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:50 AM   #700
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Incase you all missed it the first time, here is a new shirt.

Also, waiting on word from the doctor about the 10 day or longer bowel movement (or lack there of)
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:53 AM   #701
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Now a question for all of you old timers who were here when Kimkin was around, was she really helpful or just completely full of herself?
I read the old posts and was amazed to see that she started her own Ask Kimkin (something like that)......get overyourself! So was she helpful or just a nut?
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Hi Everyone:
I am new here, but I was part of all the posting last night and have to say that you people rock!!! I just was looking at pics and there was a comment on one by Tippy Toes and said that she was last on line 10.9.07 at 6:21am.
Is she still here posting or just lurking?
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Just wanted to ask if you're finding your way around this site alright. I know yesterday you asked about Atkins 72. Here is a link to the Atkins 72 pages:

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Also, the Main Lobby has a lot of people asking and talking about low carb in general.

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Old 10-09-2007, 11:56 AM   #703
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Hi Everyone:
I am new here, but I was part of all the posting last night and have to say that you people rock!!! I just was looking at pics and there was a comment on one by Tippy Toes and said that she was last on line 10.9.07 at 6:21am.
Is she still here posting or just lurking?

Hi jen,

Welcome! I'm not sure what pictures you are talking about. And where was the comment posted?
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:56 AM   #704
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kimkins .com still says direct access to kimmer is included in membership

wonder if they have copywrited Kimmer and will use it like a Dear whoever in the newspapers to be whoever is answering the emails

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Old 10-09-2007, 11:57 AM   #705
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I am new here, but I was part of all the posting last night and have to say that you people rock!!! I just was looking at pics and there was a comment on one by Tippy Toes and said that she was last on line 10.9.07 at 6:21am.
Is she still here posting or just lurking?
She has been banned from here due to threats made to a moderator.
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Hmmm I wonder why it said that she was last here at 6:21????
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Will she still show up as having been online if she is banned? Her profile does say

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So, does that mean she was trying to log in or something?
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Actually I am finding my way and people here are so NICE! I am posting on the 72 board as well. I have to say it again, this particular thread was more interesting then General Hospital!!!
You're welcome! I hang out in the ML mostly, but haven't been the past couple months because of Kimmer. It's all her fault!!!
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Wow, this just occurred to me. If you were to go to Kimkins site today and look at the plan, as it's being presented NOW, is it dangerous? Are they still advising people to starve themselves and take laxatives? I don't think they are. All the fake "before and after" pictures are gone. And Kimmer along with any reference to her amazing 200 pound loss (except a few stragglers in the newsletters, which I'm sure they'll pull eventually) is gone too.
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Hmmmm....

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Lou- The Fake success stories are still there for him to view if he is provided the list of fake pics and uses the link provided he can verify them. They just may not rotate often or all at on the homepage. I don't know enough about how the new WOE is promoted on the site to comment on the diet being safe. I have not seen that many posts on it either, but it may be due to the lack of members there even asking?
Here is the link from the first found Success Story fake-Annette's Success story
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I only know of Kimkins what I have read from the site itself, as of four days ago. It seems as though it is a carb restrictive plan that is meant to be temporary and allows for unlimited protein....therefore not restricting calories. Seems like a decent plan to me, especially for the morbidly obese. People 50 lbs or more overweight are in a serious, life threatening condition that should be treated with urgency.
I can accept the fact that he took what we know as the sanitized version at face value. I never would have thought to find older versions of an eating plan that appears to be safe upon cursory glance. In fact, it is only by happenstance that I came across LCF (that, and wanting to spend the $60.00 in my Paypal account on something else made me delve into what was on these pages!) I am guessing that Dr. Mark is doing his due diligence as we speak. I look forward to forthcoming posts from him.
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Incase you all missed it the first time, here is a new shirt.
Also, waiting on word from the doctor about the 10 day or longer bowel movement (or lack there of)
Yes, his answer on the 10 day without a BM will be very telling. They say the proof is in the pudding.....(I know bad, but I couldn't resist)
Keep us posted on the answer please.
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I thought somebody got very busy and removed all the Russian brides? They're still on there? Or are you talking about pre-scrubbed version of the Kimkins site?

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Will she still show up as having been online if she is banned? Her profile does say

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So, does that mean she was trying to log in or something?
I think so. I *think* when someone accesses their login and puts the ID and password in (even if they get no further) it shows as an 'activity' on the account.