Why the fascination with Kimmer? #7 - Page 21

Dottie · 10-09-2007, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by juniper01

nope....nothing new....yet

All the comments over the weekend have been approved

quiggley · 10-09-2007, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Violet Skye

I'd assume that, given his academic background, he's not big on formalities and stuffiness. His writing style makes him sound friendly and approachable. And this is conveyed by calling himself "Dr. Mark".

I just got online so have not read further but at School he preferred to always be called Dr Brinson. I asked one of my instructors right away what kind of Dr he was suppose to be. I just avoided calling him anything LOL

golite · 10-09-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by juniper01

nope....nothing new....yet

They just posted the comments from Sat & Sun, went from 11 this a.m. to 35.

I wonder if people realize that Ducky doesn't "find" info, just posts what we find? They keep in contact with Truth and others and puts all of our info in one place.

JoanieOrchard · 10-09-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dottie

Then his time there should be very short.

Very true and very funny!

jayed · 10-09-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JustKim

I actually think he fits right in as I have been googling the heck out of him all morning (yeah this BUGS me!)

I've got a $50 bet that "fitness guru" sets up a "supplement shop" on kimkins too

You could probably bet the house on that. Especially since Heidi approached Becky with the idea of opening an online nutritional store.

susique333 · 10-09-2007, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by boogie

What is he thinking??? Gatorade is full of sugar!!!

Not a quote, just thinking here!

"Dear Kimmer, Im nauseated all the time, Dr Mark told me to drink Gatoraid. I FEEL BETTER! But now my keto-stix say Im not in Ketosis anymore, did I do something wrong?"

LINC · 10-09-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CJane

One would think. But, it sounds like if things are moving in a positive direction now that he is willing to stay, regardless of the issues of the past? Not very wise, IMHO.

Hopefully he'll see and understand what's been going on, and how it will effect the future of KK, and his own liability should he continue to be an adviser there.

Wow, this just occurred to me. If you were to go to Kimkins site today and look at the plan, as it's being presented NOW, is it dangerous? Are they still advising people to starve themselves and take laxatives? I don't think they are. All the fake "before and after" pictures are gone. And Kimmer along with any reference to her amazing 200 pound loss (except a few stragglers in the newsletters, which I'm sure they'll pull eventually) is gone too.

Could it be that they have managed to transform Kimkins into a legitimate, safe diet site? We all know it didn't USED to be that way, but is that what people see now? Is that what the doctor is seeing? Is it possible that they've managed to scrub the site clean? We all know that Kimmer is still profiting from the website, and that's why it should go down in flames, but what if there is no connection between Kimmer and Kimkins anymore?

Even if the Dr. sees what happened in the past, what if he thinks that the diet has been reworked, that the site had disassociated itself from Kimmer? It seems to me that this is what they've been setting up all this time with the supposed change in ownership and the sudden yanking of all things Kimmer.

Hmmmm....

Lou

JoanieOrchard · 10-09-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by juniper01

If it was from Dr. Mark, perhaps he should be sent links to Ducky's blog, or perhaps Christin's blog. If he is above board, and truly concerned for his patients, he owes it to them to read the controversies before having the "Kimkins" nightmare tarnish his career. Posters here are correct, all he truly needs to do is "Google" Kimkins and read......I am sure he will be embarrassed to be associated with such a scam.

AND the Better Business Bureau. No one can say that they have an ax to grind about anything.

JustKim · 10-09-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jayed

You could probably bet the house on that. Especially since Heidi approached Becky with the idea of opening an online nutritional store.

when I was going through my divorce in the spring and wasn't around there much, she emailed me asking if I was still going to involved there, as she had another "personal trainer" approach her about working with her...but she was leery of him (?) because he also had a webstore selling supplments. I give it 3 days before he/she starts referring and promoting all kinds of supplements.

starting the clock...now

KarenG · 10-09-2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by WildAngel6

I just received this email in response to an inquiry I made yesterday:

Subject: It is me

Well,
I must say that I never expected such a quick and strange response to my postings on kimkins web site.

I only know of Kimkins what I have read from the site itself, as of four days ago. It seems as though it is a carb restrictive plan that is meant to be temporary and allows for unlimited protein....therefore not restricting calories. Seems like a decent plan to me, especially for the morbidly obese. People 50 lbs or more overweight are in a serious, life threatening condition that should be treated with urgency.

Is is what I give my patients, no. I do metabolic typing that is much more specific and personal.

My role, as I see it, in the Kimkins site is not to defend the site or the diet. It is to help people along the path with questions they may have about side effects and implementing "life" into their new program.

Again, I am not aware of the programs past, only the present things I "see" while online. I am in the profession to help as many people as possible and have always been known for that. I have seen Kimkins forum as another means of accomplishing this goal.

I assure you, as with everything else in my career, I will look into the diet more extensively. I will look into the integrity of the organization. I will try to descern if "mistakes" have been made and they are moving forward........Basically, if their heart is in the right place (not talking about anatomically here).

I appreciate your concerns. Please realize that I too, care for my patients, and the weight loss community with all my being. I just want to help people get the answers and results they deserve.

Mark

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Mark T. Brinson DOM, AP, CNMT
Doctor of Oriental Medicine
Physical Medicine Specialist

Hmmm....he has terrible spelling, grammar and punctuation for a doctor.

Someone needs to send him the 3 Fat Chicks on a Diet article. That gives a very concise breakdown of the scam and the health problems associated. Also, they need to tell him that Kimmer is being investigated and has already had a news program do a series on her and her scam.

aloise · 10-09-2007, 10:46 AM

what is KajunDC's take on this?

Wonder what he would have to say about "Dr. Mark"?

Princess Dieter · 10-09-2007, 10:47 AM

There's now a young "doc" at KK
Dispensing advice to the fray.
Set up by The Tippy,
We think it's quite dippy.
How long before "Doc" runs away?

The Princess

KarenG · 10-09-2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LINC

Wow, this just occurred to me. If you were to go to Kimkins site today and look at the plan, as it's being presented NOW, is it dangerous? Are they still advising people to starve themselves and take laxatives? I don't think they are. All the fake "before and after" pictures are gone. And Kimmer along with any reference to her amazing 200 pound loss (except a few stragglers in the newsletters, which I'm sure they'll pull eventually) is gone too.

Could it be that they have managed to transform Kimkins into a legitimate, safe diet site? We all know it didn't USED to be that way, but is that what people see now? Is that what the doctor is seeing? Is it possible that they've managed to scrub the site clean? We all know that Kimmer is still profiting from the website, and that's why it should go down in flames, but what if there is no connection between Kimmer and Kimkins anymore?

Even if the Dr. sees what happened in the past, what if he thinks that the diet has been reworked, that the site had disassociated itself from Kimmer? It seems to me that this is what they've been setting up all this time with the supposed change in ownership and the sudden yanking of all things Kimmer.

Hmmmm....

Lou

If that is the case then it is just a low carb program and there is no reason for anyone to pay for membership to the site. It is just a low-carb bulletin board. And they would have to stop advertising it as "better than gastric bypass."

CJane · 10-09-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by LINC

Wow, this just occurred to me. If you were to go to Kimkins site today and look at the plan, as it's being presented NOW, is it dangerous? Are they still advising people to starve themselves and take laxatives? I don't think they are. All the fake "before and after" pictures are gone. And Kimmer along with any reference to her amazing 200 pound loss (except a few stragglers in the newsletters, which I'm sure they'll pull eventually) is gone too.

Could it be that they have managed to transform Kimkins into a legitimate, safe diet site? We all know it didn't USED to be that way, but is that what people see now? Is that what the doctor is seeing? Is it possible that they've managed to scrub the site clean? We all know that Kimmer is still profiting from the website, and that's why it should go down in flames, but what if there is no connection between Kimmer and Kimkins anymore?

Even if the Dr. sees what happened in the past, what if he thinks that the diet has been reworked, that the site had disassociated itself from Kimmer? It seems to me that this is what they've been setting up all this time with the supposed change in ownership and the sudden yanking of all things Kimmer.

Hmmmm....

Lou

Lou, I think that's exactly what is happening. I think as it looks now, it seems a lot safer, especially to mainstream nutrition experts.

It doesn't absolve Heidi of her responsibility for what has already taken place, however. But yeah, it's a pretty fair attempt at a scrub job.

lisabinil · 10-09-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by LINC

Wow, this just occurred to me. If you were to go to Kimkins site today and look at the plan, as it's being presented NOW, is it dangerous? Are they still advising people to starve themselves and take laxatives? I don't think they are. All the fake "before and after" pictures are gone. And Kimmer along with any reference to her amazing 200 pound loss (except a few stragglers in the newsletters, which I'm sure they'll pull eventually) is gone too.

Could it be that they have managed to transform Kimkins into a legitimate, safe diet site? We all know it didn't USED to be that way, but is that what people see now? Is that what the doctor is seeing? Is it possible that they've managed to scrub the site clean? We all know that Kimmer is still profiting from the website, and that's why it should go down in flames, but what if there is no connection between Kimmer and Kimkins anymore?

Even if the Dr. sees what happened in the past, what if he thinks that the diet has been reworked, that the site had disassociated itself from Kimmer? It seems to me that this is what they've been setting up all this time with the supposed change in ownership and the sudden yanking of all things Kimmer.

Hmmmm....

Lou

I agree.

MissMerize · 10-09-2007, 10:51 AM

I made you all another present. Want to make sure you are all warm and fuzzy this winter...

golite · 10-09-2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Dieter

There's now a young "doc" at KK
Dispensing advice to the fray.
Set up by The Tippy,
We think it's quite dippy.
How long before "Doc" runs away?

The Princess

CJane · 10-09-2007, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KarenG

Hmmm....he has terrible spelling, grammar and punctuation for a doctor.

I know plenty of docs who can't spell or write a very coherent sentence, so...

I still don't consider Dr. Mark a doctor, however. JMHO

Trisha29040 · 10-09-2007, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by golite

They just posted the comments from Sat & Sun, went from 11 this a.m. to 35.

I wonder if people realize that Ducky doesn't "find" info, just posts what we find? They keep in contact with Truth and others and puts all of our info in one place.

I was upset because one of the blogs...(not Ducky's or Truth's) gave another blog credit for finding all of the fake pictures and especially the Red Dress. I posted in the comments section that LCF should have been mentioned since the members spent hours and hours scouring those sites for the fake pics. I get the feeling that some blogs are less LCF friendlier than others.

WildAngel6 · 10-09-2007, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by golite

Contacting him through information posted at kk is not confirmation that he's involved. He needs to be contacted through outside sources.
I'm still waiting to hear if someone has done this?

I emailed him using the email address posted on his website and simply asked if he was indeed the Dr. Mark now on Kimkins.com.

MARK T. BRINSON DOM, CNMT - MANUAL MEDICINE Seminars and Treatments

That seemed to be the most independent way to confirm whether Dr. Mark was really Dr. Mark T. Brinson.

HTH

LINC · 10-09-2007, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KarenG

If that is the case then it is just a low carb program and there is no reason for anyone to pay for membership to the site. It is just a low-carb bulletin board. And they would have to stop advertising it as "better than gastric bypass."

That's what I was thinking too. If they actually DO stop starving themselves and actually DO adopt a healthy, lower calorie low carb lifestyle, they ARE NOT going to lose 4-5 pounds a week as Kimmer has claimed will happen. It'll just be a lower calorie version of Atkins - it'll be one of the very many lower calorie low carb options out there...nothing special at all. I can't see anyone paying $60 for that. I guess the fraud part will come into play when people see that they don't actually lose the weight that fast, and then Kimkins will change that claim too, if they haven't already.

Lou

dointhis4me · 10-09-2007, 10:54 AM

They probably don't wanna give out the name of this fitness guru (even a first) because they are shocked how quickly we discovered who Dr. Mark was

Peskypict · 10-09-2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MissMerize

I was inspired by how Kathy does Kimkins...

I'm now going to stand out in my yard an wait for FITNESS GURU to fly down, cape and all and whisk me away to slenderland.

Might wanna bring an umbrella...and some snacks....could take a while.

Dottie · 10-09-2007, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CJane

Lou, I think that's exactly what is happening. I think as it looks now, it seems a lot safer, especially to mainstream nutrition experts.

It doesn't absolve Heidi of her responsibility for what has already taken place, however. But yeah, it's a pretty fair attempt at a scrub job.

So then it's no longer "Kimkins" is it? Since that was the original claim: How "kimmer" lost her weight.

JustKim · 10-09-2007, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LINC

Wow, this just occurred to me. If you were to go to Kimkins site today and look at the plan, as it's being presented NOW, is it dangerous? Are they still advising people to starve themselves and take laxatives? I don't think they are. All the fake "before and after" pictures are gone. And Kimme

10-09-2007, 10:47 AM	#612
Princess Dieter Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: South Florida, USA Posts: 187 Gallery: Princess Dieter Stats: 299/271/160	Time for another Royal Limerick There's now a young "doc" at KK Dispensing advice to the fray. Set up by The Tippy, We think it's quite dippy. How long before "Doc" runs away? The Princess

10-09-2007, 10:46 AM	#611
aloise Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: USA Posts: 412 Gallery: aloise Stats: eeek!/sigh../Yeah!!! WOE: low glycemic load; real food Start Date: Aug 1, 2007	what is KajunDC's take on this? Wonder what he would have to say about "Dr. Mark"?

10-09-2007, 10:54 AM	#622
dointhis4me MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 1,969 Gallery: dointhis4me Stats: (was 246+ in 3/07) lc start wt- 239+/171/146 WOE: Atkins-ish Start Date: 4/4/07-5'6" and 30 y.o.	They probably don't wanna give out the name of this fitness guru (even a first) because they are shocked how quickly we discovered who Dr. Mark was