Why the fascination with Kimmer? #7 - Page 20

CJane · 10-09-2007, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MissMerize

*big SNIP*

Remembering that liquor also important, Kimmer makes her batches of grain alcohol. The planters punch looks easy and something fun she can do with the kids. She plans to mix rum and fruit juice in a koolaid pitcher and keep that on hand as a fun snack.

That is hysterical! Sick, and probably not far from the truth, but very funny!

JoanieOrchard · 10-09-2007, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleiades

Is there any way to tell if there are legitimate new members signing up? I don't see how Heidi can possibly keep paying everyone, even if she did make a lot of money off the WW issue, especially now that there's little (no??) incoming revenue. You know she's not digging into her own profits to pay any admins, and Dr, Mark certainly has to be a hired gun.

I have also wondered if she is getting many new signups. I asked a few weeks ago if there were many people posting, and it didn't sound like there were.

MissMerize · 10-09-2007, 10:12 AM

I think some of those admin's don't get paid. They just like to help.

And if Heidi sold the business then she is no longer paying them. Someone paid her for the site.

It is possible too that the company was split some how and she is not the official owner, but has some stock. The kimkins brand was trademarked, so the name alone has a value.

JustKim · 10-09-2007, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jayed

First, a doctor with no last name. Now a personal trainer with no name at all.

Are members really supposed to take these guys seriously?

I think Kim may have a coronary when she gets a load of her replacement.

I actually need to STOP caring or I'll drive myself insane!

I already tend to take everything personally as it is...and internalize eveyrthing...so this really gets to me!

But of course, I am also curious.....they mention "dual certifications" but then only mention personal training...what's the other?? hmmmmm

WildAngel6 · 10-09-2007, 10:17 AM

I just received this email in response to an inquiry I made yesterday:

Subject: It is me

Well,
I must say that I never expected such a quick and strange response to my postings on kimkins web site.

I only know of Kimkins what I have read from the site itself, as of four days ago. It seems as though it is a carb restrictive plan that is meant to be temporary and allows for unlimited protein....therefore not restricting calories. Seems like a decent plan to me, especially for the morbidly obese. People 50 lbs or more overweight are in a serious, life threatening condition that should be treated with urgency.

Is is what I give my patients, no. I do metabolic typing that is much more specific and personal.

My role, as I see it, in the Kimkins site is not to defend the site or the diet. It is to help people along the path with questions they may have about side effects and implementing "life" into their new program.

Again, I am not aware of the programs past, only the present things I "see" while online. I am in the profession to help as many people as possible and have always been known for that. I have seen Kimkins forum as another means of accomplishing this goal.

I assure you, as with everything else in my career, I will look into the diet more extensively. I will look into the integrity of the organization. I will try to descern if "mistakes" have been made and they are moving forward........Basically, if their heart is in the right place (not talking about anatomically here).

I appreciate your concerns. Please realize that I too, care for my patients, and the weight loss community with all my being. I just want to help people get the answers and results they deserve.

Mark

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Mark T. Brinson DOM, AP, CNMT
Doctor of Oriental Medicine
Physical Medicine Specialist

HoneyBee2 · 10-09-2007, 10:17 AM

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Subject: It is me

Well,
I must say that I never expected such a quick and strange response to my postings on kimkins web site.

I only know of Kimkins what I have read from the site itself, as of four days ago. It seems as though it is a carb restrictive plan that is meant to be temporary and allows for unlimited protein....therefore not restricting calories. Seems like a decent plan to me, especially for the morbidly obese. People 50 lbs or more overweight are in a serious, life threatening condition that should be treated with urgency.

Is is what I give my patients, no. I do metabolic typing that is much more specific and personal.

My role, as I see it, in the Kimkins site is not to defend the site or the diet. It is to help people along the path with questions they may have about side effects and implementing "life" into their new program.

Again, I am not aware of the programs past, only the present things I "see" while online. I am in the profession to help as many people as possible and have always been known for that. I have seen Kimkins forum as another means of accomplishing this goal.

I assure you, as with everything else in my career, I will look into the diet more extensively. I will look into the integrity of the organization. I will try to descern if "mistakes" have been made and they are moving forward........Basically, if their heart is in the right place (not talking about anatomically here).

I appreciate your concerns. Please realize that I too, care for my patients, and the weight loss community with all my being. I just want to help people get the answers and results they deserve.

Mark

ETA-Now I see the other post and source- Thanks

CarolynF · 10-09-2007, 10:18 AM

We don't know where Ducky is either. Maybe he took a long needed vacation with his ducklings!!! I'm sure he will be back and raring to go soon..

Let's hope Dr. Mark does his homework...if not, he's not a very thorough dr...

Princess Dieter · 10-09-2007, 10:18 AM

Over at the KimkinsDiet.Blogspot.Com site, I notice that they've taken an entire article from dlife.com for their entry.

In blogdom, as long as you link up, most folks are pretty cool about your copying/pasting their work. Attribution rules.

However, would this freelance writer, Deanna Glick Freelance Writer and Editor want her work in toto on the blog of a diet that is embroiled in scandal? I do wonder. It's not like they quote part. It's the WHOLE essay from 2/2007 still at Diabetes, Type 1 Diabetes, Type 2 Diabetes - dLife.com dLife TV and calledFood Frugality If I were this writer, I definitely wouldn't want my work on THAT blog. And I'm pretty sure KK violated fair use limits of copyright.

Maybe Tippy has been too busy to think of something original for the blog.

The Princess

MissMerize · 10-09-2007, 10:19 AM

I was inspired by how Kathy does Kimkins...

I'm now going to stand out in my yard an wait for FITNESS GURU to fly down, cape and all and whisk me away to slenderland.

Dottie · 10-09-2007, 10:20 AM

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I will look into the integrity of the organization.

Then his time there should be very short.

dhuff81096 · 10-09-2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MissMerize

ntroducing Fitness Guru! 27 Minutes ago
Join us in welcoming new admin, Fitness Guru, to the Kimkins team!

Please ask all of your fitness, exercise and training questions here. Learn from Fitness Guru's impressive experience in physical education and personal training/physical conditioning.

You're sure to find his bachelor of science in physical education and dual certifications in personal training a valuable asset in obtaining your own health, training and fitness goals!

Momentarily out of lurkdom...

What I don't understand is why people are still there like nothing is going on. Hello?!?

How many unnamed and uncredentialed "experts" does it take to support a fraudulent site anyways?

I am so waiting for news of a KK bust or a broadcast about the continuing investigation.

Princess Dieter · 10-09-2007, 10:22 AM

He doesn't even have to look into it EXTENSIVELY. He just needs to do a quick GOOGLE, for Pete's sake, and that should answer the question of whether he wants to be associated with a cesspool of bad dietetic advice.

And how does Gatorade fit into a naturopathic/herbalist/etc sort of counsel? Why not a cocktail of fresh vegetable and fruit juices to restore potassium and electrolytes and missing phytonutrients and such. Gatorade? I just can't picture some elderly Chinese sage bending over his patient and suggesting a big, ole cup of Gatorade to fix them right up.

The Princess

Pleiades · 10-09-2007, 10:23 AM

OMG, this insane!

rebel · 10-09-2007, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dottie

Then his time there should be very short.

Good one, Dottie!

jayed · 10-09-2007, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JustKim

I actually need to STOP caring or I'll drive myself insane!

I already tend to take everything personally as it is...and internalize eveyrthing...so this really gets to me!

But of course, I am also curious.....they mention "dual certifications" but then only mention personal training...what's the other?? hmmmmm

You're probably right. It's not worth it.

Would it be valid to use "dual certifications" if one is certified by two separate organizations?

sammymomma · 10-09-2007, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KarenG

Where the heck is Ducky????

could ducky have been kimmer....and she did all this to drum up attention to her site...then an easy way out?

CJane · 10-09-2007, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dottie

Then his time there should be very short.

One would think. But, it sounds like if things are moving in a positive direction now that he is willing to stay, regardless of the issues of the past? Not very wise, IMHO.

Hopefully he'll see and understand what's been going on, and how it will effect the future of KK, and his own liability should he continue to be an adviser there.

Angel · 10-09-2007, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dottie

Then his time there should be very short.

gibster · 10-09-2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CarolynF

I think there are probably sock puppets over there as well as people answering their own questions..(someone said that). We are just hoping and praying that the numbers of innocent people being taken in by Kimmer will dwindle to nothing. The only way to do that is for the FTC/lawsuit to shut her down.

Wow..now Fitness Guru..Maybe that's also Dr. Mark.

I bet you're right. Didn't Dr. Mark say he had some background in personal training?

sammymomma · 10-09-2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dottie

Then his time there should be very short.

LOOL LOL LOL LOL

MissMerize · 10-09-2007, 10:27 AM

Maybe Kimmer ate Ducky....

JustKim · 10-09-2007, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dottie

Then his time there should be very short.

Dottie you crack me up!

golite · 10-09-2007, 10:29 AM

Contacting him through information posted at kk is not confirmation that he's involved. He needs to be contacted through outside sources.
I'm still waiting to hear if someone has done this?

JustKim · 10-09-2007, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gibster

I bet you're right. Didn't Dr. Mark say he had some background in personal training?

yeah he is a CHEK guy

juniper01 · 10-09-2007, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

This was in the comments of kimkins dangers. Can anyone verify that it is posted at kimkins by Dr. Mark?

If it was from Dr. Mark, perhaps he should be sent links to Ducky's blog, or perhaps Christin's blog. If he is above board, and truly concerned for his patients, he owes it to them to read the controversies before having the "Kimkins" nightmare tarnish his career. Posters here are correct, all he truly needs to do is "Google" Kimkins and read......I am sure he will be embarrassed to be associated with such a scam.

JustKim · 10-09-2007, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by juniper01

If it was from Dr. Mark, perhaps he should be sent links to Ducky's blog, or perhaps Christin's blog. If he is above board, and truly concerned for his patients, he owes it to them to read the controversies before having the "Kimkins" nightmare tarnish his career. Posters here are correct, all he truly needs to do is "Google" Kimkins and read......I am sure he will be embarrassed to be associated with such a scam.

I actually think he fits right in as I have been googling the heck

10-09-2007, 10:17 AM	#575
WildAngel6 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cali Posts: 1,132 Gallery: WildAngel6 WOE: Atkins	Dr. Mark IS Dr. Mark T. Brinson I just received this email in response to an inquiry I made yesterday: Subject: It is me Well, I must say that I never expected such a quick and strange response to my postings on kimkins web site. I only know of Kimkins what I have read from the site itself, as of four days ago. It seems as though it is a carb restrictive plan that is meant to be temporary and allows for unlimited protein....therefore not restricting calories. Seems like a decent plan to me, especially for the morbidly obese. People 50 lbs or more overweight are in a serious, life threatening condition that should be treated with urgency. Is is what I give my patients, no. I do metabolic typing that is much more specific and personal. My role, as I see it, in the Kimkins site is not to defend the site or the diet. It is to help people along the path with questions they may have about side effects and implementing "life" into their new program. Again, I am not aware of the programs past, only the present things I "see" while online. I am in the profession to help as many people as possible and have always been known for that. I have seen Kimkins forum as another means of accomplishing this goal. I assure you, as with everything else in my career, I will look into the diet more extensively. I will look into the integrity of the organization. I will try to descern if "mistakes" have been made and they are moving forward........Basically, if their heart is in the right place (not talking about anatomically here). I appreciate your concerns. Please realize that I too, care for my patients, and the weight loss community with all my being. I just want to help people get the answers and results they deserve. Mark -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark T. Brinson DOM, AP, CNMT Doctor of Oriental Medicine Physical Medicine Specialist __________________ Laura ~ aka Amy or Ducky! Nominated for Best Quote of the Year: "Is it too late to take that back?" --The Kimmer!! Calling San Diego County Residents! We Need You! Help Spread The Word: Say NO To Kimkins! Got Blog? Join the Ring! WildAngel6 Daily Links <~ how can you help? Check here!

10-09-2007, 10:18 AM	#577
CarolynF Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kansas Posts: 19,297 Gallery: CarolynF Stats: 195/144/139 WOE: Eat Fat, Get Thin/I Can Make You Thin Start Date: January 2001	We don't know where Ducky is either. Maybe he took a long needed vacation with his ducklings!!! I'm sure he will be back and raring to go soon.. Let's hope Dr. Mark does his homework...if not, he's not a very thorough dr... Last edited by CarolynF : 10-09-2007 at 10:19 AM.

10-09-2007, 10:18 AM	#578
Princess Dieter Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: South Florida, USA Posts: 187 Gallery: Princess Dieter Stats: 299/271/160	Over at the KimkinsDiet.Blogspot.Com site, I notice that they've taken an entire article from dlife.com for their entry. In blogdom, as long as you link up, most folks are pretty cool about your copying/pasting their work. Attribution rules. However, would this freelance writer, Deanna Glick Freelance Writer and Editor want her work in toto on the blog of a diet that is embroiled in scandal? I do wonder. It's not like they quote part. It's the WHOLE essay from 2/2007 still at Diabetes, Type 1 Diabetes, Type 2 Diabetes - dLife.com dLife TV and calledFood Frugality If I were this writer, I definitely wouldn't want my work on THAT blog. And I'm pretty sure KK violated fair use limits of copyright. Maybe Tippy has been too busy to think of something original for the blog. The Princess __________________ The Princess Once Upon a Diet

10-09-2007, 10:22 AM	#582
Princess Dieter Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: South Florida, USA Posts: 187 Gallery: Princess Dieter Stats: 299/271/160	He doesn't even have to look into it EXTENSIVELY. He just needs to do a quick GOOGLE, for Pete's sake, and that should answer the question of whether he wants to be associated with a cesspool of bad dietetic advice. And how does Gatorade fit into a naturopathic/herbalist/etc sort of counsel? Why not a cocktail of fresh vegetable and fruit juices to restore potassium and electrolytes and missing phytonutrients and such. Gatorade? I just can't picture some elderly Chinese sage bending over his patient and suggesting a big, ole cup of Gatorade to fix them right up. The Princess Last edited by Princess Dieter : 10-09-2007 at 10:25 AM.

10-09-2007, 10:12 AM	#573
MissMerize MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: North East Posts: 1,175 Gallery: MissMerize Stats: 170/162/142 WOE: Meat and Martini Diet, cycled with oopsie rolls Start Date: 3/18/08	I think some of those admin's don't get paid. They just like to help. And if Heidi sold the business then she is no longer paying them. Someone paid her for the site. It is possible too that the company was split some how and she is not the official owner, but has some stock. The kimkins brand was trademarked, so the name alone has a value.

10-09-2007, 10:19 AM	#579
MissMerize MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: North East Posts: 1,175 Gallery: MissMerize Stats: 170/162/142 WOE: Meat and Martini Diet, cycled with oopsie rolls Start Date: 3/18/08	I was inspired by how Kathy does Kimkins... I'm now going to stand out in my yard an wait for FITNESS GURU to fly down, cape and all and whisk me away to slenderland.

10-09-2007, 10:23 AM	#583
Pleiades MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: OBX Posts: 1,677 Gallery: Pleiades Stats: 191/143.5/115 (5'2") WOE: BFFM/NROL Start Date: January 1, 2007	OMG, this insane!

10-09-2007, 10:27 AM	#591
MissMerize MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: North East Posts: 1,175 Gallery: MissMerize Stats: 170/162/142 WOE: Meat and Martini Diet, cycled with oopsie rolls Start Date: 3/18/08	Maybe Kimmer ate Ducky....

10-09-2007, 10:29 AM	#593
golite Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In that very tall house, yeah that one Posts: 469 Gallery: golite Stats: 333/325/170 WOE: Atkins Start Date: Oct 2003/Aug 2007	Contacting him through information posted at kk is not confirmation that he's involved. He needs to be contacted through outside sources. I'm still waiting to hear if someone has done this?