Why the fascination with Kimmer? #7

[Diana]

[quote=EasyPeas;9327781]

Originally Posted by Ntombi

Wow! I've totally caught up... just in time to go to bed. Now I'll have to start all over tomorrow.

As for "Dr. Mark," I was also willing (hoping) to believe he was duped, but with Easypeas' information, it appears I'm sadly mistaken.

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Sadly mistaken? Not necessarily

His presence at Kimkins is one issue, his qualifications to dispense medical/health advice is a different issue.

Regarding his motivation to be at Kimkins: In an earlier post, I said that I think he probably means well. I doubt he understands what he's gotten himself into. He's been duped, if you will. Several things he's recommended have run completely counter to the Kimkins WOE. I think he's probably a well-meaning guy thinking "here's a chance to help a few people while making a buck or two."

Regarding the quality of any medical/health advice he might dispense: Personally, I would not entrust my health to him. By his own words, he "rarely" orders diagnostics (I guess he can just "feel" what's wrong with people... which sounds like an episode out of The X-Files), he can't pres_cribe Rx's (what about.... say.... insulin dependent diabetics like my 22 year old neighbor, what's he gonna do for them?), he's from a defunct, discredited "medical school" (wonder about the quality of the training he got there), etc. etc. When I look at his website, he's got "credentials" in all kinds of stuff... an ad-hoc collection of certifications and diplomas and licenses.... and with all those qualifications/credentials, if he's so good, why's he hanging out at Kimkins???

So again, nice well-meaning guy that he may be, personally I would not entrust my health to him. Others may disagree, as is their right.

It's a case of Stole Identity again..... Contact him through his website...

[OhYeahBabe]

Originally Posted by Pleiades

They sure are having a lot of accidents and mistakes over there.

Like Oz! "My, (pick one) people/posts come and go so quickly here!" It's enough to make a ruby slippered girl dizzy! Oh wait, that's lack of nutrients.

[LadyJ]

I also questioned the word 'additionology'. I do know addictionology is the study of addiction. An addictionolgist treats patients with substance abuse problems. However, I looked up 'addition' in my handy dandy Tabers Medical Dictionary. Addition: In chemistry, a reaction in which two substances unite without loss of atoms or valence.
So I guess additionology is a study in that chemistry thingy.

[OhYeahBabe]

Originally Posted by Diana

It's a case of Stole Identity again..... Contact him through his website...

Has this been confirmed?!?

[McLurkypants]

Originally Posted by shawngal

Good morning all!! Dang you guys were busy last night!

Several pages back, someone asked about the original Kimkins Diet and someone else posted this: ~snip~

When she revamped the site in anticipation of the WW article, the diet changed to include the list someone posted earlier. I noticed it right off the bat but assumed it was to not alert WW as to how drastic the diet really was. If WW had seen the original version, they would have never run that article.

At least two versions of the diet have been posted - and thanks to all who are chiming in with the various versions of the details!

[jayed]

Originally Posted by Diana

It's a case of Stole Identity again..... Contact him through his website...

I really don't think they stole his identity. I cannot believe anyone would be that stupid. Even these people.

[dointhis4me]

Originally Posted by OhYeahBabe

Has this been confirmed?!?

I don't believe it has been

Originally Posted by LadyJ

I also questioned the word 'additionology'. I do know addictionology is the study of addiction. An addictionolgist treats patients with substance abuse problems. However, I looked up 'addition' in my handy dandy Tabers Medical Dictionary. Addition: In chemistry, a reaction in which two substances unite without loss of atoms or valence.
So I guess additionology is a study in that chemistry thingy.

I think so, I googled it and a practitioner in Holistic medicine came up and it said she holds specialties in Additionology and MindBody Birthing

Practitioners - Holistic Wellness Centre

Originally Posted by Diana

It's a case of Stole Identity again..... Contact him through his website...

I think someone has already contacted him. I do not think at this point it would be a good idea for him to be bombarded with emails, calls, etc, especially since we're not sure it's him.

[AmyJuli]

I know there was a lot of talk about nominating someone to call/email him. Did that ever actually happen? I'm dying to hear if it's the same person, if Dr McSketchy is a stolen identity, of if it's the real-deal does he know what the heck he's gotten himself involved with.

I suspect it's him, and he doesn't really know what he's stepped into. That's where I'm putting my money. (Is there a bookey in the house? What are my odds?)

(Edited to correct spelling. I had "stoley" instead of stolen. But I laughed... stoley identity? Maybe Stoli identity... LOL. I crack myself up.)

[dointhis4me]

Originally Posted by AmyJuli

I know there was a lot of talk about nominating someone to call/email him. Did that ever actually happen? I'm dying to hear if it's the same person, if Dr McSketchy is a stoley identity, of if it's the real-deal does he know what the heck he's gotten himself involved with.

I suspect it's him, and he doesn't really know what he's stepped into. That's where I'm putting my money. (Is there a bookey in the house? What are my odds?)

Someone had mentioned last night leaving him a voicemail

[jimzgrl]

I finally caught up!!! I had to skip a few pages(okay, A LOT of pages) but I'll check them out later!
Great job all you detectives!

Honeybee- Hope you had a great day!!

[CarolynF]

The doctor has been contacted from what I understand, so let's just see how it plays out. I feel sorry for this guy, but hopefully he will read his email, etc. and get a clue that he doesn't want any part of this diet scam.

[MissMerize]

"How Kimmer Does Kimkins"

(this could be my report)

Fictional Kimkins owner, Kimmer, 50, figures Kimkins is her last hope.

She's tried them all ... Weight Watchers, Nutrisystem, LA Weight Loss and a local medical clinic that treated obesity with pills and shots. After spending thousands of dollars with little or any result, she's going to give Kimkins a try. At 5' 2" and 300 pounds and a dwindling bank account, there's not a minute to waste!

"Well, "Getting Started!" she writes, a lot of members use K/E to jumpstart their weight loss. Kimmer whispers to herself. "Hmmm, seems simple enough. This could be my best con ever!" Then she continues to write and create something called the Domino Effect. She makes a note to herself to really push the Domino Effect.

Kimmer's not a recently divorced single mom of 2, but she does have a couple of foster kids. Not a minute to spare in her busy life so she really needs to streamline her Kimkins program and it can't be too expensive.

This is what she decides to do:

1) Pull her kid out of school so he can get the whole thing going on the computer
2) Take an existing diet and whack it around so it sounds healthy and safe
3) Load up her refrigerator with junk food, desserts, frozen high carb meals and soda, so she won't have to leave her apartment for days.
4) Find some picture for an after shot, perhaps a Russian Bride...
5) Decides that she needs to make up some success stories to verify her diet really works

"Hmmm, the K/E rules will say to eat from the Protein List until you're satisfied ," Kimmer thinks to herself. She finds some recipes to steal and call her very own:

* Kimkins Egg Muffins
* Kimkins Seafood Saute (shrimp, scallops, tuna)
* Kimkins Tuna Salad
* Kimkins Grilled Fish or Shrimp
* Kimkins Deviled Eggs
* Kimkins Buffalo Strips
* Kimkins Poached Salmon
* Kimkins Chicken Soup (broth & chopped chicken)
* Kimkins EAS Advantage Shakes
* Kimkins Tuna Pouches
* Kimkins Ziploc Omelette

Since childhood Kimmer has been a big eater and gets comfort from a full plate. Food has been her best friend for a long time. While she knows she needs to work on her attitude of food replacing pent-up feelings, for now she wants a full plate and a full bank account.

Although portions on K/E are unlimited, Kimmer suggests that "thin and big" food might be more visually satisfying to her unsuspecting customers than "short and thick", so she decided to horizontally slice some of her boneless chicken, pork cutlets and fish fillets. Both the thin sliced chicken and pork make great satay style meals threaded on a bamboo skewer (and a 4 oz thin sliced portion fills the plate nicely.)

Kimmer decides drinking will enhance her writing abilities, so Kimmer stashes her short wide 16 oz kitchen glasses next to the computer where she can fill a fresh one with wine as soon as the last glass is finished.

Remembering that liquor also important, Kimmer makes her batches of grain alcohol. The planters punch looks easy and something fun she can do with the kids. She plans to mix rum and fruit juice in a koolaid pitcher and keep that on hand as a fun snack.

Her foster kids are 8 & 12 and old enough to help in the kitchen. She puts them on the payroll at $2.00 per hour so she can have an extra tax write off.

As part of her commitment to a new lifestyle she sits down with her kids explains to them these are the new rules. Although a little suspicious, the kids are pretty much onboard with Kimmer's ideas. They decide to try some changes including no more going to school, or even thinking about ever living a straight and narrow life.

The kids grumble about the woes of html, but Kimmer knows it's her job as mom to be firm and make the best decisions for herself.

At first Kimmer thinks she'll only have a diet to sell, but realizes she can sell t-shirts too.

Kimmer decides this will be the best scam of her life, and if she's ever found out she will sell it fast and retire in Canada or Mexico.

[aloise]

well.. think I'm going to give up trying to totally catch up. but.. my question is why would any professional (like Mark) go to a diet site to help out without first checking out the diet? I would think a professional would want to know what they are supporting.

so, either this isn't Dr. Mark.. or he isn't very professional or thorough.

The other thing that bothers me is why is the fact that they have a "DR" on premises NOT plastered prominently on the website with Mark's credentials and experience? I would think that if they are paying him, they would want it known that they now have a DO (is that is title? Doctor of Oriental Medicine ) on the site? but.. nothing. does that strike anyone else as hinky? To just announce yourself on the forum that can only be seen by paid members (well, this is the premise ) is not very good advertising of the fact that the members have access to a DO.

so, I have a tendency to think this is another one of Hidey's shams. either she is impersonating Mark, or Mark didn't bother checking out the diet that he was going to answer questions about.

[Tennis4.0]

Originally Posted by aloise

so, either this isn't Dr. Mark.. or he isn't very professional or thorough.

The other thing that bothers me is why is the fact that they have a "DR" on premises NOT plastered prominently on the website with Mark's credentials and experience? I would think that if they are paying him, they would want it known that they now have a DO (is that is title? Doctor of Oriental Medicine ) on the site? but.. nothing. does that strike anyone else as hinky? To just announce yourself on the forum that can only be seen by paid members (well, this is the premise ) is not very good advertising of the fact that the members have access to a DO.

so, I have a tendency to think this is another one of Hidey's shams. either she is impersonating Mark, or Mark didn't bother checking out the diet that he was going to answer questions about.

Completely agree

[Mayberryfan]

and yer siggy's been sanitized.... pm me fer more info!

Hey MollyBrown, thanks for checking for me! I guessed my siggy would be sanitized! They're stupid, but they're not THAT stupid.

I can't PM here yet........so, if you want, post what you find here. Unlike Kimmer, I have no secrets.

I guess I am still logged into the homepage so maybe that is why I show "online" I never thought about it. I know Kimmer ALWAYS shows being offline even when she is currently posting.

Thanks again for checking for me!

[CarolynF]

This is my take: Dr. Mark is Tippy's friend. They live in the same town..She may have gone to him for "something". They needed a dr/exercise expert on KK, Tippy asked him as he isn't that terribly busy. Kimmer gave her "blessing" and Dr. Mark became "part of the team" so to speak. Dr. Mark is clueless as to what he got himself into..However, I'm sure the contact people are "filling" him in. He is getting paid for this, of course and needs the money.

Most "Drs" don't have time to fiddle with websites, etc, but obviously Dr. Mark has lots of time in between patients and making Gatorade.

My prediction is that Dr. Mark won't be there very long. His "medicine" is incompatible with the KK plan..What's your prediction on how long he stays?

[JoanieOrchard]

Originally Posted by aloise

well.. think I'm going to give up trying to totally catch up. but.. my question is why would any professional (like Mark) go to a diet site to help out without first checking out the diet? I would think a professional would want to know what they are supporting.

so, either this isn't Dr. Mark.. or he isn't very professional or thorough.

The other thing that bothers me is why is the fact that they have a "DR" on premises NOT plastered prominently on the website with Mark's credentials and experience? I would think that if they are paying him, they would want it known that they now have a DO (is that is title? Doctor of Oriental Medicine ) on the site? but.. nothing. does that strike anyone else as hinky? To just announce yourself on the forum that can only be seen by paid members (well, this is the premise ) is not very good advertising of the fact that the members have access to a DO.

so, I have a tendency to think this is another one of Hidey's shams. either she is impersonating Mark, or Mark didn't bother checking out the diet that he was going to answer questions about.

I looked at Kimkins this morning, and that was the first thing that struck me too. There's no mention of him under the "Kimkins membership includes" section or in the section that compares Kimkins to other diets.

Maybe if they include the good doctor in what you receive with your membership it opens up the possibility of additional claims of false advertising or fraud?

[Princess Dieter]

Originally Posted by Diana

That was Tippy I am sure, she doesn't even go!!!

Someone really needs to get these people away from that QUACK Dr!! I mean Kimmer/Heidi! Read those posts, it's just how she types

Well, see, Diana, there's the explanation for Tippy's crap coming out of her mouth rather than the appropriate orifice.

Doody won't be denied. It will find a way....

The Princess<--who goes 5 minutes after waking up, like clockwork, and then at least once or twice more a day. And it comes out the right exit...

[lisabinil]

Originally Posted by boogie

I was actually at the dentist's office and was talking to the assistant about migraines (the topic came up with the 'ol how have you been?). She said she was a sufferer too. She told me about the Topomax and had a similar experience as you. She also said she could not remember squat form one minute to the next. She said she takes Maxalt now.

I figure once Botox is finally approved we can be pain free AND look good!!!

I take Maxalt and it is not a preventative daily med like Topamax. It is in the triptan family (Imitrex is in this family) and you take it for a migraine attack. I have the MIM (melt in your mouth) Maxalt-really like this especially when I am vomiting I can still get the med in. I also take Midrin with the Maxalt when I have an attack.

[jayed]

Originally Posted by aloise

well.. think I'm going to give up trying to totally catch up. but.. my question is why would any professional (like Mark) go to a diet site to help out without first checking out the diet? I would think a professional would want to know what they are supporting.

so, either this isn't Dr. Mark.. or he isn't very professional or thorough.

The other thing that bothers me is why is the fact that they have a "DR" on premises NOT plastered prominently on the website with Mark's credentials and experience? I would think that if they are paying him, they would want it known that they now have a DO (is that is title? Doctor of Oriental Medicine ) on the site? but.. nothing. does that strike anyone else as hinky? To just announce yourself on the forum that can only be seen by paid members (well, this is the premise ) is not very good advertising of the fact that the members have access to a DO.

so, I have a tendency to think this is another one of Hidey's shams. either she is impersonating Mark, or Mark didn't bother checking out the diet that he was going to answer questions about.

Mark is NOT a DO. A DO is an osteopathic doctor. An actual physician.

I do think it's strange that he has not posted a CV. Or even his last name for that matter. I don't understand why anyone would find him credible at this point.

[JoanieOrchard]

Originally Posted by CarolynF

This is my take: Dr. Mark is Tippy's friend. They live in the same town..She may have gone to him for "something". They needed a dr/exercise expert on KK, Tippy asked him as he isn't that terribly busy. Kimmer gave her "blessing" and Dr. Mark became "part of the team" so to speak. Dr. Mark is clueless as to what he got himself into..However, I'm sure the contact people are "filling" him in. He is getting paid for this, of course and needs the money.

Most "Drs" don't have time to fiddle with websites, etc, but obviously Dr. Mark has lots of time in between patients and making Gatorade.

My prediction is that Dr. Mark won't be there very long. His "medicine" is incompatible with the KK plan..What's your prediction on how long he stays?

Hopefully, he, along with the rest of them, won't be there much longer.

This is all starting to make my head spin.

[Cryssi]

May I have a re-cap please? I was roaming the playground too much yesterday

[Pleiades]

Is there any way to tell if there are legitimate new members signing up? I don't see how Heidi can possibly keep paying everyone, even if she did make a lot of money off the WW issue, especially now that there's little (no??) incoming revenue. You know she's not digging into her own profits to pay any admins, and Dr, Mark certainly has to be a hired gun.

[MissMerize]

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