Why the fascination with Kimmer? #7

[MollyBrown]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Did you ever comment on the underscoring of words? The pre_scr_iption that type of text? Have you seen that at Kimkins with other posts?

...So from what you see he seems like he is not anyone other than what he says?

Maybe the underscores are to break up multisyllabic words into monosyllables? lol

I don't know why the underscores, seriously. If his text were lifted part and parcel from an online source and the underscores a result of cutting and pasting, one would expect correct spelling, grammar, and professional sounding advice to result. When I read what he has written, it seems made up on the fly. I hope he is a better public speaker than he is a writer.

I also don't know about the good docktor. One would think if he were a serious medical professional and as superior a researcher as he claims, that he would have at least checked into the tenets of the KK diet. Because he does not seem to have a grasp of the eating plan, and if he did, isn't appalled by it, leads me to believe that he is a hired gun.

[jenjenjen]

I have only been a member here for a few hours and I am starting to become addicted! I think my addictive personality contributed to weight!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
I should go and fold laundry and get my kitchen floor mopped............but oh my.....what if I miss something??? LOL

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by jenjenjen

Thanks Honey Bee, the snack question was odd considering I am only eating meat right now. I am just starting induction again today and am attempting to to do Atkins '72, my mom's version!!!!
How many people has she bilked? I am in the legal field (special education/ civil rights) and was surprised to see an attorney discussing class action. There must be more to it than we are even aware of. Generally speaking attorneys do not go on television and discuss the possibility of a suit without significant facts.

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/blog.php?b=2
that link goes to the confirmed fraudulent advertising pics and you saw Heidi/kimmer on tv so you know she doesn't weight 118 pounds and isn't the woman in the red dress.

He has them. Consumer protection law is a big one- from wikipedia

Fraud, in addition to being a criminal act, is also a type of civil law violation known as a tort. A tort is a civil wrong for which the law provides a remedy. A civil fraud typically involves the act of intentionally making a false representation of a material fact, with the intent to deceive, which is reasonably relied upon by another person to that person's detriment. A "false representation" can take many forms, such as:

A false statement of fact, known to be false at the time it was made;
A statement of fact with no reasonable basis to make that statement;
A promise of future performance made with an intent, at the time the promise was made, not to perform as promised; A statement of opinion based on a false statement of fact;
A statement of opinion that the maker knows to be false; or
An expression of opinion that is false, made by one claiming or implying to have special knowledgeof the subject matter of the opinion. "Special knowledge" in this case means knowledge or information superior to that possessed by the other party, and to which the other party did not have equal access

[EasyPeas]

Honeybee, I just want to say that I have really appreciated all your posts in the past few days and also all the work you did with the Russian bride stuff. And also, I know this is late, but Happy Birthday!

[jenjenjen]

My point was not that there is not a case, but probably even more of a case then the public knows about. This is HUGE.....no pun intended

[jenjenjen]

Russian Bride???? I have seen references..........I am afraid to ask.........my kitchen floor is never getting mopped!!!!

[jlshields]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Wait WTH? I missed that story. Tippy had some fat dissolving injections?

Back again, Tippy discussed the fat dissolving injections on the Happy Hour Fwens threads starting in March and going thru at least May. I have copied her initial posts about them. She did go on to have the treatments. Did not mention the doctor's name.

Here are her initial posts in March:

am seriously considering getting injections for the fat thighs/butt. DH's Doc said they would do it and provide cellulite treatment for $1000 and they finance. The scary thing is they do LOTS of injections directly into the area to break the fatty deposits up, then you actually urinate the broken down fat right out. It is for people who have lost weight and have normal BMI but still have areas of fat pockets. That would be me. Doc says because the fat breaks down and leaves the body weight drops accordingly. This may seem like the easy way out but I hate shots. However, no mater how thin I have ever become I always had the same trouble areas. You can see it in the bikini pic in the front of the thighs and the back is really bad. Doc says after the SERIES of injections I will be proud to wear a bathing suit. Should I do it?

MK, you have to have a normal BMI is what they told me. The encourage patients to lose weight first, then whatever fat remains gets zapped. Been looking thru google at some before and after pics and I am most impressed. DH says I am crazy to spend the $ but I don't care. I can get free fianacing for 2 years and payments won't be bad at all. Appr. 105 lbs lost and now a normal BMI and I feel ripped off still having fat pockets. I'm going for it!

Jeanie, my fat also has loose skin over it and the Doc said I was the perfect candidate. It is called mesotherapy. Doc is not a plastic surgon but is starting to do cosmetics such as this, Botox, ect... The treatment reduces cellulite and disolves fat pockets. It is called the new lipo-suction minus the surgery. Supposed to sculp shape and disolve fat. You would qualify with a normal BMI. If you were still losing weight you would not qualify. It is for us poor girls who hit goal and have stubborn fat pockets that refuse to go. Umm, that would be me. You can do a google seach for Doc's in your area that perform the procedure. Most have financing available.

[EasyPeas]

Originally Posted by jenjenjen

Russian Bride???? I have seen references..........I am afraid to ask.........my kitchen floor is never getting mopped!!!!

Jen, Kimkins had a bunch of before/after success stories with pictures on her website, as well as a supposed after picture of herself. Many of those pictures turned out to be lifted from marraige.com types of sites. Click on the links in Honeybee's posts, and you'll see what I refer to.

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by MollyBrown

Maybe the underscores are to break up multisyllabic words into monosyllables? lol

I don't know why the underscores, seriously. If his text were lifted part and parcel from an online source and the underscores a result of cutting and pasting, one would expect correct spelling, grammar, and professional sounding advice to result. When I read what he has written, it seems made up on the fly. I hope he is a better public speaker than he is a writer.

I also don't know about the good docktor. One would think if he were a serious medical professional and as superior a researcher as he claims, that he would have at least checked into the tenets of the KK diet. Because he does not seem to have a grasp of the eating plan, and if he did, isn't appalled by it, leads me to believe that he is a hired gun.

Funny you mention the syllables because I thought maybe he is tapping the sound out... My little girl does that sounding out words but she is six.
The words I noticed it on were the ones from him answering what his background was in and I thought maybe he was pulling words off a site that would only link to certain words. For example: Here on the boards certain words that match products link to those product or information. Not often does it come up but when it does it is a blue word within your post.
SO I was thinking a medical site but if it is occuring in non-medical terms that would not apply.
If he is the real deal then I don't respect his lack of researching Kimkins or the WOE and at the rate he is going I do not value or respect his medical advice either.

[jenjenjen]

Sh**, if I were so inclined I would pay the $60.00 just to access the site........but I will not give that scab a dime! I'll check Honeybee's links.

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by jlshields

Back again, Tippy discussed the fat dissolving injections on the Happy Hour Fwens threads starting in March and going thru at least May. I have copied her initial posts about them. She did go on to have the treatments. Did not mention the doctor's name.

Here are her initial posts in March:

am seriously considering getting injections for the fat thighs/butt. DH's Doc said they would do it and provide cellulite treatment for $1000 and they finance. The scary thing is they do LOTS of injections directly into the area to break the fatty deposits up, then you actually urinate the broken down fat right out. It is for people who have lost weight and have normal BMI but still have areas of fat pockets. That would be me. Doc says because the fat breaks down and leaves the body weight drops accordingly. This may seem like the easy way out but I hate shots. However, no mater how thin I have ever become I always had the same trouble areas. You can see it in the bikini pic in the front of the thighs and the back is really bad. Doc says after the SERIES of injections I will be proud to wear a bathing suit. Should I do it?

MK, you have to have a normal BMI is what they told me. The encourage patients to lose weight first, then whatever fat remains gets zapped. Been looking thru google at some before and after pics and I am most impressed. DH says I am crazy to spend the $ but I don't care. I can get free fianacing for 2 years and payments won't be bad at all. Appr. 105 lbs lost and now a normal BMI and I feel ripped off still having fat pockets. I'm going for it!

Jeanie, my fat also has loose skin over it and the Doc said I was the perfect candidate. It is called mesotherapy. Doc is not a plastic surgon but is starting to do cosmetics such as this, Botox, ect... The treatment reduces cellulite and disolves fat pockets. It is called the new lipo-suction minus the surgery. Supposed to sculp shape and disolve fat. You would qualify with a normal BMI. If you were still losing weight you would not qualify. It is for us poor girls who hit goal and have stubborn fat pockets that refuse to go. Umm, that would be me. You can do a google seach for Doc's in your area that perform the procedure. Most have financing available.

Thank you so much!!!
Is it just me or is she rubbing everyone's nose in the fact she hit goal and questioning where they are in their weight loss?
I may be reading it wrong because I now see the person Tippy is and I read more into it.
Do you know if the picture from her avatar her as her after was that taken before those pics that were posted....was it today or yesterday?....anyway the ones where her husband said she shouldn't be wearing that 2 piece and she scheduled him for a prostrate exam. Were those before her avatar after of before?

[EasyPeas]

Originally Posted by jenjenjen

Sh**, if I were so inclined I would pay the $60.00 just to access the site........but I will not give that scab a dime! I'll check Honeybee's links.

Paying to access the site would probably be a waste of money. During the past few days/weeks, they've been deleting a lot of the incriminating stuff (like the faked success stories) so a lot of it isn't there anymore.

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by EasyPeas

Honeybee, I just want to say that I have really appreciated all your posts in the past few days and also all the work you did with the Russian bride stuff. And also, I know this is late, but Happy Birthday!

Oh thank you Peas! Oh and I saw your other post about the UA
This was on his website-right......

With a license that covers essentially everything except prescription drugs and surgery, Dr. Brinson
combines modalities from massage, bodywork, physical therapy, chiropractic, chinese medicine and
osteopathic medicine to give you exactly what your condition requires. Most conditions can be
detected by hand but rarely further testing may be ordered. No two session are alike. Each person
is treated as an individual with the goal of getting better as soon as possible

Well first response is I guess the "Most conditions can be detected by hand"
means he will not be doing many pap smears
Second-If he orders additional test he should have at least encountered an urinalysis on many of those occasions. They are quite common.


This was in his post on Kimkins discussing his background and the type of doc he was........

As a primary care physician, my license covers everything except pre_script_ion drugs and surgery. Including, but not limited to, all physical medicine, rehabilitation, internal medicine, acupuncture, imaging and labs, injection of natural substances, nutrition and life_style_ counseling, additionology, herbology and medicinal meal (1000 hours) etc. etc. etc.....

First- WTH is additionlogy? The study of how to add!!! COME ON now what type of spelling is that where you don't even correct something like that?!?!?
Second- He mentions his license covers internal medicine and imaging/labs.
That makes the UA slip up very disturbing.
Third- I bet he is going to pimp his herbal product or herbal injections to members and Kimmer gave him the option of having a store front connected to the site like she did with Becky!

[dlslds]

those posted pics were before she hit goal at about 165 pounds. her avitar is the before and after calling goal.

I find it really scary that her doc was just begining to do the mesotherapy and botox...shoot wouldn't a person want to go to an Expert, who had done it for years??!!!!! Also i wonder what on earth they put in those shots? how long has it been tested....

I remember her saying she still had the marks/scars on her thighs where she had been injected.

[EasyPeas]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

First- WTH is additionlogy? The study of how to add!!! COME ON now what type of spelling is that where you don't even correct something like that?!?!? [/b]!

Additionology.... a misspelling, I think. On his website, he lists his credentials in "Addictionolgy".... a lofty term for treatment of substance abuse.

[EasyPeas]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

[font="Century Gothic"][size=+1]Well first response is I guess the "Most conditions can be detected by hand"
means he will not be doing many pap smears
Second-If he orders additional test he should have at least encountered an urinalysis on many of those occasions. They are quite common.
[/b]!

Yeah... I too raised my eyebrows when he "said most conditions can be detected by hand." I can think of lots and lots of condtions that can't be detected "by hand"....

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by EasyPeas

Additionology.... a misspelling, I think. On his website, he lists his credentials in "Addictionolgy".... a lofty term for treatment of substance abuse.

Sorry Peas I got it I was being bad and "picking on" how funny the misspelled was if translated. One would think some effort would go into posting his credentials in introducing himself to the site..so it made me giggle.

[EasyPeas]

You know.... thinking about Dr. Mark's qualifications..... these are a couple of things that make me go "hmmmm"....

"With a license that covers essentially everything except prescription drugs and surgery, Dr. Brinson combines modalities from massage, bodywork, physical therapy, chiropractic, chinese medicine and osteopathic medicine to give you exactly what your condition requires. Most conditions can be detected by hand but rarely further testing may be ordered...."


1. Even a nurse practitioner can prescribe most drugs.

2. "Rarely" further testing may be ordered .... for those things not "detected by hand"....(wonder how he can "feel" an asymptomatic 85% occluded left main widow maker)

[EasyPeas]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Sorry Peas I got it I was being bad and "picking on" how funny the misspelled was if translated. One would think some effort would go into posting his credentials in introducing himself to the site..so it made me giggle.

But your point is right on.... here's a so-called professional introducing himself for the first time.... to an entire online community.... and he does it so sloppily and off-handedly. Color me ---> not impressed

Hey, like I said in a previous post.... no doubt he means well. (But lots of lousy.... and even dangerous.... advice has been dispensed by well-meaning people.)

[Princess Dieter]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

This is "Dr." Marks answer to hair loss questions

"Re:Losing my hair...Dr. Mark 3 Hours, 32 Minutes ago
Within two weeks of being on your vitamins you should notice improvement. Probably less but lets go with two weeks.

If it continues to be a problem let me know and I will tell you of some specific foods that can nourish that hair and skin.

It has been said for thousands of years "a Good physician should treat first with food".


Remember also, don't worry too much and find some healthy activities to keep your stress low.

Dr. Mark"

So, when I had my I-almost-died-asthma attack, they should have given me some veggie soup or a banana instead of immediate injections and inhalants of bronchodilators and corticosteroids? Silly E.R. docs.

Next time I have a mass show up on my mammogram, I'm gonna demand a tray of crudites and dip!
~~

Originally Posted by Keepugesin

Anything that moves _meta_bolic

Why do words in his post keep doing this _ _ thing???

Maybe it's an insider thing. Like pre_script_ion is a snarky, anti-traditionalist's way of making fun of medical prescriptions as a "script"--just doling out medicines by rote, like an actor's script.

And maybe _meta_bolic means the wastes are metaphysical, too. Sort of like fixing the chi as well as the poopy issues. Get the wastes out of the meta dimension.

I'm strictly guessing here about Dr. Mark's idiot_syn_cracies.


Oh, and reading this about TFSTCM made me think Heidi might have felt right at home running the school's budget-- YangerLaw.com

The Princess

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by EasyPeas

You know.... thinking about Dr. Mark's qualifications..... these are a couple of things that make me go "hmmmm"....

"With a license that covers essentially everything except prescription drugs and surgery, Dr. Brinson combines modalities from massage, bodywork, physical therapy, chiropractic, chinese medicine and osteopathic medicine to give you exactly what your condition requires. Most conditions can be detected by hand but rarely further testing may be ordered...."


1. Even a nurse practitioner can prescribe most drugs.

2. "Rarely" further testing may be ordered .... for those things not "detected by hand"....(wonder how he can "feel" an asymptomatic 85% occluded left main widow maker)

1) Yes, Peas you are correct they can and in some states Pharmacists are allowed to prescribe based on a formulary that is in place. This is with certain criteria being met but they can prescribe nonetheless.

2) Big hands? It reminds me of that movie with Michael Keaton where he is dying and goes to see an unconventional "doctor" and the doctor can feel his cancer.
Dr. Mark’s website does say ordering testing and labs so I would hope MRI, CAT scan, angiogram and a basic cholesterol panel…..(rarely)
Don't get me wrong I think observation and asking the right questions can reveal tremendous insight in making a diagnosis, but basic testing is needed for monitoring and follow-up. The phrase "rarely further testing may be ordered" makes me say hmmmmmmm.

[dlslds]

Originally Posted by Princess Dieter

So, when I had my I-almost-died-asthma attack, they should have given me some veggie soup or a banana instead of immediate injections and inhalants of bronchodilators and corticosteroids? Silly E.R. docs.

Next time I have a mass show up on my mammogram, I'm gonna demand a tray of crudites and dip!
~~



Maybe it's an insider thing. Like pre_script_ion is a snarky, anti-traditionalist's way of making fun of medical prescriptions as a "script"--just doling out medicines by rote, like an actor's script.

And maybe _meta_bolic means the wastes are metaphysical, too. Sort of like fixing the chi as well as the poopy issues. Get the wastes out of the meta dimension.

I'm strictly guessing here about Dr. Mark's idiot_syn_cracies.


Oh, and reading this about TFSTCM made me think Heidi might have felt right at home running the school's budget-- YangerLaw.com

The Princess

Oh princess how i you!!!!!

[Princess Dieter]

Originally Posted by Violet Skye

I believe this, too. I don't know why, but the non-slickness of his website and the way he jumped in to answer everyone's questions with answers that did not uphold the official KK party line make me feel he is sincere, albeit misguided. He probably thinks this liaison with Kimkins is a good way to practice-build, develop a higher profile and help people. And yes, I feel bad for him that his profile will be built in such a negative way.

Count me in as thinking the guy has been duped. He's probably just a gung-go non-traditionalist type--massages, colonics, acupuncture, etc--and someone said, "Hey, we'll pay you X to be the medical/wellness consultant on our site."

He's probably thinking he's just doing a good deed for some regular cash.

I doubt Heidi is THAT dumb that she'd impersonate a living per