Why the fascination with Kimmer? #6

[teri f]

Originally Posted by fineline

Do you have room for another Kimkins defector? Need a new home! Kathi

Of course! We're glad you are here! Check out the whole board. Lots of great, sane, weight loss and exercise support!

[missis36]

Originally Posted by Gweebles

I have requested a refund two times. I use the link they send and get the below:

Fatal error: ERROR: You do not have access to this Ticket. in /home/kimkins/public_html/support/modules/tickets/client_tickets.php on line 15

Do they HONESTLY think I'll let it go at that?? They don't know me too well, do they???

Gweebles, I'd like to introduce you to Jeanessa, Nessa, please meet Gweebles. I believe you ladies will get along fine

Originally Posted by fineline

Do you have room for another Kimkins defector? Need a new home! Kathi

There is always room at this inn! Welcome

Originally Posted by Essie

All that matters is you spell christian with a capital 'C' and if your posts number 666 when you're banned, well that's hillarious! It also appears that certain people can be as nasty and as negative to others, but if they ignore what's going on and keep promoting how wonderful KK is they're ok.

No they don't care, they really don't, they see that they are losing weight and that is all that matters. I've stayed there as I continue to see people who ARE eating 300 - 400 calories and doing bootcamp and wondering why they are shakey. It took ages for someone to answer that post, to me the answer is obvious. So far that person hasn't returned and posted anything, so I pm'd them to see how they were. People who are lowering their calories like this are then ridiculed and called dumb! They are following the plan as originally written, that's what they were advised to do. There are a few long termers there, but I think many who post have joined after Becky et al left and don't know what was on the site before. I actually feel quite sad today about it all, I don't think I can go back there anymore, there are people there who are like the rest of us, struggling to lose weight. I'm afraid my health is far more important than being a size freakin' 6! Like many over there, was going through sheer desperation at the time (and a bottle of red wine if I remember correctly) and signed up on a whim. Tried it for a month, couldn't do it. Got cranky, tired and hungry all the time ie fats went too low. But decided to stay and post every now and then when I saw something I thought was dangerous.

Anyway, I'm tired of the nastyness there, I don't know that I can even stomach lurking there anymore. (I only lurk coz I paid the money )

Essie

PS. No sign of KK over there either.

The night we were doing the seen experiment, cwarren called another poster, not seen mind you, but another one, A stupid blankey blank. And that my friend was pure class. That poster was just saying that they were ok with "seen" posting, and the next thing you know cwarren's hungry side took over and the dirty word explosion began. Now was cwarren banned....NOPE!

[Ladybugg]

You Tube Video

Don't know if this link will work. It's a You-tube video - I thought it was funny. Don't know if anyone's posted it yet.

[serenity_aus]

Ok I have done blue sapphire women aged 50-70 in an effort to find celeste but no luck.

It's actually kinda depressing the amount of women on there. Which makes me wonder, someone mentioned something about heidykins missing for 6 months. I reckon she was on the russian bride site trying to find the matching (kinda) photos. considering it's taking several of us literally hours to trawl through.

[Rose1271]

Originally Posted by rebel

I'll chime in here about mamas. I'm 51. I was my mother's caretaker as she was a stroke patient. I was at her house several times a day, did all of her errands, cooked her meals, etc. I lived right around the corner and she wanted to stay in her home. I went in to cook her breakfast on April 22, 2005and found her dead in the kitchen floor. I have flashbacks about it. I will never get over losing my parents.

I am so sorry you had to go through that. Growing up, that was my biggest fear. I'm the youngest of 3 girls and my father was diagnosed with heart disease/enlarged left ventricle and was even on the transplant list. Being the youngest, both my older sisters were off to college and already married, and so I was the only one home including my mom. She worked full time which meant I was the one who would come home after school. I feared everyday that when I got home, I would find my father dead from a massive heart attack. That was in the 80's early 90's. He did pass away in 1995, suffered a massive heart attack on my wedding day, went into a coma and died 2 months later. Awful, awful.

As for Banned camp. Never was a member at KK, so will never have a chance to join those in the ranks. BUT...way back when, I was first chair/second violin in the Orchestra. LOL. Sorry, was feeling a bit left out.

Great job Gungadinn for finding the men! Welcome to all the Newbies!

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by regandy

Can someone explain WHY people would choose to stay on a website where the owner lied about ALL of the pictures including her own? Can someone explain to my WHY people would not feel offended when they have been lied to? Is there a reason why they don't care where some of their "friends" have vanished to?

And, I might be a little out of line here... BUT if they call themselves "Christians" does it not bother them that one of the admins is a "palm reader" & one of the admins is a professed "wiccan"? AND if they call themselves Christians, does it not bother them that there have been so many lies and deceptions? ...hmmmm....

That's the million dollar question! I've been wondering about this myself for the last four months. I can't believe the analogy that just because her WOE works - they would continue to defend this type of person. It's beyond my comprehension. I guess it takes all kinds!

[htxfroggy]

Originally Posted by Fat_Mom_Walking
Well, I am a strong believer; maybe I can answer this question. I learned about all of this just about a week or two ago when I returned to Kimkins after being gone for a couple months, and I stayed on until I was banned.

When I first logged back into Kimkins, I was immediately attacked by Vandy J because my avitar was a duck (little did I know . . .)

I so wanted to say something to that vandy J for being so rude. Her little yawn comments and such just made me want to scream. Glad to see you here.

[teri f]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

Thank goodness-I thought I was the only second chairer!

Oh Lord...I played clainet and french horn. Was last seat in the closet on both!

But! I had fun.

[mama MIA]

I've been searching for the posts that had the Kimkins diets written out with the calorie total for each one. It would helpful for the KK members that lurk here to see how it's broken down. It's worth posting again.

[Essie]

Originally Posted by missis36

The night we were doing the seen experiment, cwarren called another poster, not seen mind you, but another one, A stupid blankey blank. And that my friend was pure class. That poster was just saying that they were ok with "seen" posting, and the next thing you know cwarren's hungry side took over and the dirty word explosion began. Now was cwarren banned....NOPE!

Yep, was there and saw it all.

[xf89]

Originally Posted by missis36

I'd like to ditto Honey's statement here. I gained 20lbs a few months ago thinking I was gonna lose my daddy. His big cancer scare was the worst thing I have had to watch...since I watched my once big strong daddy get weak and lose 40lbs in a month. He wasn't my big strong daddy anymore and it was so painful to watch. And when the man who has always had the answers becomes depressed and suicidal because he doesn't want anyone to go through watching him die, it kills ya. I'm so sorry to all of you who have lost a parent, and my heart goes out to all of you

Missi to you! I've lost both my parents, my father went quickly with a heart attack and my mother slowly starved herself to death. Losing a loved one is hard, but watching them slowly die is harder, I think. It's hard to see them suffer like that. My heart goes out to you!

[emmyjane]

Originally Posted by McLurkypants

OK I have gotten Wikipedia to send me a copy of the article as it was at the time of deletion. It was not changed that much from the original expansion. I'm just glad to have a copy of it given the time that went into making it Wiki-worthy, and I have learned my lesson! I will save my own copies from now on!

Anyway I am going thru the Wikipedia procedure to get the article back out there, which begins with a discussion with the admin who removed it. Having gotten the article copy tonight, I have just initiated that discussion.

In order to avoid these hair-trigger deletions in the future, and to address some valid concerns raised by the removing admin, I am going to totally rewrite the article to mirror articles on other diets which are currently active on Wikipedia (Atkins, Nutrisystem, Weight Watchers, etc.). The title will also be changed.

In the interest of full disclosure, I earlier said the problems with the article were "technical" things about link locations and formatting, more than related to content. In fact, the removing admin (who was not listed in the log and I cannot tell you the ridiculousness I had to go thru to identify and contact the removing admin...) had issues with the content. Her concern was that the article was written in the style of an expose' as opposed to a more neutral treatment. She is correct on this, and her feedback is well-taken. She was also concerned about the lack of primary sources - there were some, but not many, about the controversy, which was the main focus of the article.

The way to fix that is to do the rewrite - there are plenty of primary sources out there on the Kimkins Diet. And I anticipate that by the time I complete the rewrite in a few days, there will also be plenty of primary sources on the "controversy" or scam aspect as well!

Just wanted to give a bit of an update.

While I'm here, heartfelt condolences to Kat & anybody else who's grieving the loss of a loved one tonight. I have been to several funerals in the past 2 months, an aunt, and a friend's father. It just hits me like a sucker punch - I am 46, my parents are in their late 70's, so I know the day will come, but it just breaks my heart to think about it.

OK - life calls! Back to it! Can we turn off the lights at some point so there's not so much catching up to do in the morning?

Thanks for the update (and all your efforts)! Is there any chance that article's significance could be improved by the fact that the threads here on LCF have (altogether) had over a million page views? I dunno; it seems like a pretty big thing to me!

[Essie]

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

That's the million dollar question! I've been wondering about this myself for the last four months. I can't believe the analogy that just because her WOE works - they would continue to defend this type of person. It's beyond my comprehension. I guess it takes all kinds!

Every time something is perceived as being from a 'hater' it's all about the WOE. "I don't care because I've lost .... and I've had no health problems" Some actually state that they know KK might be a scammer, the pictures are false, I didn't join because of her etc but I'm losing weight and that's all that's all that matters, that and keeping the forum positive.

[Diana]

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

That's the million dollar question! I've been wondering about this myself for the last four months. I can't believe the analogy that just because her WOE works - they would continue to defend this type of person. It's beyond my comprehension. I guess it takes all kinds!

It's called Brain washed!!! They can't see beyond their WL... the dangers, the lies

[Dottie]

I think many are thinking: "Ok, I can lose the weight fast, THEN worry about my health", not really seeing that they can be harming their health seriously in the process.
Just IMO of course.

[Diana]

KE Does it get boring? 53 Minutes ago
Everyone,

I started Kimkins a while back but due to personal reasons i had to give it up. Now I want to get back into it and reach my goal by the end of the year if possible. Ive looked at all the plans and I think im going to start with KE and see how i go - i want maximum results!! I have one question to people that are currently on the KE plan - Does eating plain chicken, fish and turkey and eggs not get a little boring after a while??? Do you only eat it plain or do you have various things with it?

Please let me know what you do so i can stop myself from getting bored to easily!!!

Thanks everyone!

Re:KE Does it get boring? 40 Minutes ago
Charlie, I am waiting for more replies to your question. Yes I do get bored doing K/E so if anyone can offer some suggestions to "dress it up" I eagerly await the answers! It does work and it is fast but I can only last on it for so long because I do get bored. Then I switch to another KK plan. But, I always did get super results doing it so... Someone tell us how to make it not so boring, please

Re:KE Does it get boring? 21 Minutes ago
I get bored with it. But for me that is not such a bad thing. i am trying to make food just that food. Food to fuel my body and not some OMG thing right now. I am eating basics and adding more foods in to up calories and some fat ect.
But I also know that some people get bored and go off plan. I hope you get some good advice.
TT..I saw your weight loss. I wanted to find out a little about what plan you are following for maintenance. Remind me..did you lose your weight on Atkins of KK. I thought for some reason that you were a Atkins girl. Are you doing KK to lose more weight or maintain. The closer I get to goal , the more I am curious as to what works for others.

Re:KE Does it get boring? 9 Minutes ago
Im at that 3 week stall so Im thinking of switching to K/E until I get past it. Im also curious..

Re:KE Does it get boring? 2 Minutes ago
I would assume you would get bored with it. I have an event in two weeks so I am switching to the KE plan to get maximum results...after that I may switch back on to the "regular" plan. I wonder if anyone has noticed a weight gain when they switch back and forth?
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Ok, so if your bored now, within 2 weeks, how do you plan on eating for the rest of your life? Atkins teaches you how to lose weight, how to continue and then how to maintain, all the while showing you how to add foods.... can't do that with Kimkins, you'll be banned!!! Good luck all!

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by missis36

I'd like to ditto Honey's statement here. I gained 20lbs a few months ago thinking I was gonna lose my daddy. His big cancer scare was the worst thing I have had to watch...since I watched my once big strong daddy get weak and lose 40lbs in a month. He wasn't my big strong daddy anymore and it was so painful to watch. And when the man who has always had the answers becomes depressed and suicidal because he doesn't want anyone to go through watching him die, it kills ya. I'm so sorry to all of you who have lost a parent, and my heart goes out to all of you

Originally Posted by Pokey1168

I am so sorry you had to go through that. Growing up, that was my biggest fear. I'm the youngest of 3 girls and my father was diagnosed with heart disease/enlarged left ventricle and was even on the transplant list. Being the youngest, both my older sisters were off to college and already married, and so I was the only one home including my mom. She worked full time which meant I was the one who would come home after school. I feared everyday that when I got home, I would find my father dead from a massive heart attack. That was in the 80's early 90's. He did pass away in 1995, suffered a massive heart attack on my wedding day, went into a coma and died 2 months later. Awful, awful.

to you both.

[Lisa46]

Originally Posted by Dottie

I think many are thinking: "Ok, I can lose the weight fast, THEN worry about my health", not really seeing that they can be harming their health seriously in the process.
Just IMO of course.

yes, yes, YES, Dottie, that is SO true. I know, because that is how my thought process worked as I was in the middle of Kimkins. So what happens? You lose the weight, your health suffers, then you gain weight back because you didn't learn how to properly lose/maintain the weight in the first place, so now you've gained the weight back (and probably more) and you have health issues. Not really what I set out to do, but so it goes...

[Diana]

Re:Joined but never started!! 12 Hours, 21 Minutes ago
Let's see now, I can't have protein and I can't have carbs without measuring both and sticking with strict limits. I wonder how I'll be able to do that? It looks pretty hopeless to me. Carbs cause high blood sugar without tons of insulin covering them, tons of insulin causes weight gain, which causes my blood pressure to increase and further damage my kidneys. Now protein, will do the same and I am now between a rock and a hard place. I wasn't told this before I joined and paid $65.00 to join. Can I get my money refunded? If I can't use this diet ?
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Re:Joined but never started!! 12 Hours, 16 Minutes ago
Can I get a refund if I can't do this diet? My money was wasted joining. Of course my doctor is not going to accept the liability of granting permission, it will be no you cannot do the diet

[Re:Joined but never started!! 26 Minutes ago
I don't know how this thread slipped past me but it somehow did. Thanks danielle for stepping in!

Lemonjello, by NOT taking this plan to your Doctor you are simply making excuses for why you 'can't" get started again. I suspect you don't realize this is happening but it clearly is. We have 5 plans to offer and not all are unlimited protein. Please do print them all out and ask your Doctor which is best. If he says none are good as they are ask him how to tweek them for your individual health issues. He wouldn't want to be liable??? For what? Helping you lose weight? That doesn't add up, I am sorry. But if it is true find a new Doctor who will support your efforts and find one today! Your health issues are serious and you should have a Doctor monitor your weight loss anyways from start to finish. So, rather than request a refund and continue to eat whatever you please, why not request a check up instead? Don't give up so easily! You are worth the effort. You really are. Now, let me ask you this. What will happen to your husband without YOU? And your daughter will always be ridden with guilt for moving so far away. Please don't do this to the people who love you the most. That is just not fair. It's time for you to take action for yourself and your family. There is no junk foods worth dying for. None.

I hope this post doesn't sound harsh. I mean this with genuine concern for you. And for your family. Look at all the people here who took the time to read your post and address these issues. They understand. We all do. While it is true you may have more life issues than some, every single one of us know that quality of life is deeply affected by being overweight. That's why we are all here. We DEMAND better for ourselves because we all know we are worth the efforts. You are worth the efforts too! So please, pick up the phone and make that appt. to see your Doctor. If that doesn't go well find a new Doctor and make the next appt. Please don't wait.
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If your second guessing Kimkins already, that should be a red flag...
I see they are up to 5 different types of Kimmer diets... gee, why??? Atkins has one!!! LOL

[jwc]

Originally Posted by 2big4mysize

I'll jump to the end and come back to you only a few girls left out there

Our forum is beginning to sound a bit like it's

DUCK MATING SEASON

Keep up the great sleuthing!

[wifezilla]

They don't care that they were lied to
They don't care that the success stories are fakes
They don't care that the creator of the diet is obese
They don't care that people have gotten sick on Kimkins
They don't care that Kimkins has triggered eating disorders in some members
They don't care that the diet isn't maintanable

The KK site is populated with "Don't-Care Bears".....Selfish people who refuse to look at the big picture as long as they get what they want. Nice.

[mimi]

Diana, with all this notoriety, maybe Tippy thinks she can *cycle* on over to Weight Watchers, Nutri System, etc. She could be poster girl over there for the BIG BUCKS!! I think they have maintenance programs too. *snicker*