Why the fascination with Kimmer? #6

[Kona sunset]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

I did not.....but I'm happy this is up. Just one thing guys...my Mother passed away tonight but I'm OK. She was 90 and not in the best of health anymore. So if I take of sounding like Kimmer or something..you know why, lol.

Can't believe how much happened this week! Good job all!!.

Kat. So sorry about your mom.

[golite]

Originally Posted by McLurkypants

Contrary to what one of the Kimmer-fans posted here yesterday, the deletion of the Kimkins Controversy article from Wikipedia was over technical issues and had nothing to do with the content, which had, in fact, passed review and cleared all the hoops. Being brand new to Wikipedia I was in over my head and unfamiliar with some of their conventions having to do with placement and coding of internal and external links. Their admins are very picky over there, which I totally understand, since they attempt to provide a dynamic, well-researched web encyclopedia that can be edited at any time.

ANYWAY, I hope to have some good news in the next day or so. The content will be restored at least for my access (since I authored the original article and since I have requested the access) and I will have an opportunity to save it and take some time to work on it to meet Wikipedia's demanding standards :-)

At last check something was going on with it and things were being moved around internally - I hope to be back soon with good news.

McLurky, You've been doing such a great job at pulling info out and putting it together, I just can't see you Not getting it to stick!

[kakay]

Thanks Lisa, I miss him so much. When ever I have bathroom issues is scares me. I want to say what a tremendous job you all have done with finding all the fake pictures. Keep up the good work.

[Kona sunset]

Almost 30 pages behind because I didn't have a chance to get on until now, but I wanted to let you all know that they rebanned me! I just tried and got the same screen I got yesterday. Don't know what was up with the "unbanning." But, looks like it's official now!

[missis36]

Kat and kakay I'm so sorry to hear about your losses!

[Weedydidi]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Did you read the line where Becky and Kimmer are discussing Becky's paycheck etc...

Geeze...no, I hadn't gotten to that yet.

She really is a piece of work. I'm trying to understand her pathology - refusing to acknowledge that she's been found out, that she's a sham, that she has any legal ties to the website at all. I must say I couldn't keep it up.

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by Maid of Erin

I admired her just like I'd admire any other obese person who was able to lose the weight and then put up a pic of herself in a bikini.

Yeah, you're right. I do admire someone who would post bikini pics that look like this:















And it's not a bikini pic, but this was taken at the same time:







And finally, the link to the thread:

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/lo...une-2-4-a.html

[sissypoo]

Originally Posted by Fat_Mom_Walking

Well, I am a strong believer; maybe I can answer this question. I learned about all of this just about a week or two ago when I returned to Kimkins after being gone for a couple months, and I stayed on until I was banned.

When I first logged back into Kimkins, I was immediately attacked by Vandy J because my avitar was a duck (little did I know . . .)

After being pm'ed (I think by Kim) I started reading outside posts and learned as much as I could. I began to post questions ~ resulting in my eventual banishment.

I think that there are believers who value peace and relationship as the highest of virtues and so may be willing to overlook the problems in their pursuit of those virtues. I don't disparage that at all. I did read some of the Christian thread while I was there ~ and those women have developed such close ties; I am sure that the thought of losing those relationships is very painful. I am guessing that they plan to try to protect their small community at kimkins and ride out the storm.

I believe, though, that we are called to the truth. A tainted tree yields tainted fruit. (I said that at kimkins, and it disappeared very quickly.) Nothing good can come from a venture that originates in deception and greed. Scripture is clear that we are to avoid even the appearance of evil. For me ~ the idea of staying on that board and not posting the truth was, in fact, participating in something evil. Remaining silent while others are being mislead and abused is not the answer. But it may be that those who still remain on the board simply don't know the full extent of everything that has happened.

Mom, I sent you a pm as soon as I saw your first post because we both live in the same place and I remembered you because of that. I gave you my email address hoping you would email me so that I could tell you what was going on. I didn't say any more in the pm because I was afraid the admins would read it. I'm sorry you got banned but I'm glad you got out.

[Madam De Leon]

Originally Posted by LISAinTN

Good points Becky. I made some of those points in a post to them tonight. So far nobody has responded and I haven't been banned. What I love is how they are constantly calling US haters, but yet some of their posts to us are the most hateful and vile I've ever seen. It just boggles my mind at their "logic".

Somebody's probably answered this already...

But I just have to add my 2 cents.

Remember that they're eating a VLCD, which affects brain function. When my daughter was at the height of her anorexia, she may have thought she was doing the right thing, that she had plenty of energy, and was thinking very clearly - but she wasn't. Far from it.

A VLCD/anorexia influences thought processes. Woe to anything or anyone that is perceived to threaten the goal of losing weight, control (and as people who have overeaten ourselves into obesity, we definitely have control/lack of control issues), and a self perception that they're doing what they truly need to do. Anyone who threatens that will be considered the enemy. It's simply unthinkable to someone whose thought processes have been twisted by a VLCD or anorexia that they're not doing the best thing.

I realize that not everyone on KK says they're eating less than 1000 calories, but I've seen too many fit-days where they posted chicken breast, skin not eaten (implying that it's cooked with the skin intact) with no preparation method specified. If they're cooking it with the skin intact, yes, they'll have a little fat imparted to the chicken breast by the skin, even if they remove the skin before eating. However, most people buy boneless skinless chicken breasts (or remove the skin before cooking). Fit day lists that item as being almost 300 calories, which would only be the case if you added nearly 2 T of fats/oils for preparation, since the boneless, skinless chicken breast itself only has 110 calories per 100 g portion. (see nutritiondata.com) There is no listing for raw boneless, skinless, chicken breast on Fit day - if they're boiling, broiling, poaching or even sauteeing in Pam, the cooked chicken will still only have 110 calories. Sadly, many of them are probably eating a lot fewer calories than they think they are.

[Gweebles]

Originally Posted by airse

Doe anyone have the address for Heidi Diaz so I can fill in the info for Att. General?

Mel

couldn't PM you

529 North McKinley Street 104-309
Corona,
CA 92879 » Other
Primary Phone: (951) 258-3976 » Other
Primary Fax:
Primary Contact: Heidi Diaz,Owner » Other


This is from the BBB site. I used it.

[golite]

TT in that thread;

I had a delima with DH in TN. We went ot on the boat and I wore a skirt bathing suit bottom and a bikini top. He flipped out about it and said I was too fat to wear stuff like that, I was trying to look hot and I should just face the fact I am not. I cried for 2 days over the comment. However, when the going gets tough, sometimes you have to be tough right back. So I sheduled DH for a prosterate check and I was present for the BIG moment, lol! I told his Doc I had seen some blood on the toilet when he came out (which is true). Now he has to have a scope up his butt. Call me fat--say I'm not hot, lol! Paybacks are hell

What part of the male anatomy is the prosterate?

[mousepie]

Originally Posted by kakay

To all of those having problems with your colon and bowel, PLEASE take this as a VERY SERIOUS issue. Back in December, 3 days before Christmas, I had to rush my dad to the ER with his tummy swollen and not able to go to the bathroom and in tremendous pain. He had to undergo emergency surgery that night, a huge portion of his colon had already died due to the supply being cut off, he spent a long time in ICU and I hate to tell you that he never did come back home. His new home is now in HEAVEN. Im not saying that his death was totally due to the colon problem, he did have kidney cancer and all this drastic surgery caused him to go into Renal Failure, but the doctor did tell us had it not been for this colon problem he had a lot longer to live. I guess I'm saying this because all of the talk of colon problems brought back so many memories. IF you are having problems with your tummy swelling and not able to go to the bath room ,RUN DO NOT WALK TO YOUR DOCTOR.

I thought about your dad to!

[Magicsmom]

golite, I know! We had many laughs about the fact that her DH was the one who was right! In usual TT arrogance, she couldn't see it.

[Sheridan]

Originally Posted by Fat_Mom_Walking

I believe, though, that we are called to the truth. A tainted tree yields tainted fruit. (I said that at kimkins, and it disappeared very quickly.) Nothing good can come from a venture that originates in deception and greed. Scripture is clear that we are to avoid even the appearance of evil. For me ~ the idea of staying on that board and not posting the truth was, in fact, participating in something evil. Remaining silent while others are being mislead and abused is not the answer. But it may be that those who still remain on the board simply don't know the full extent of everything that has happened.

I am in total agreement! I really hope the others who remain can open their eyes. It's not good to be willfully ignorant/willfully blind.

Originally Posted by McLurkypants

Contrary to what one of the Kimmer-fans posted here yesterday, the deletion of the Kimkins Controversy article from Wikipedia was over technical issues and had nothing to do with the content, which had, in fact, passed review and cleared all the hoops. Being brand new to Wikipedia I was in over my head and unfamiliar with some of their conventions having to do with placement and coding of internal and external links. Their admins are very picky over there, which I totally understand, since they attempt to provide a dynamic, well-researched web encyclopedia that can be edited at any time.

ANYWAY, I hope to have some good news in the next day or so. The content will be restored at least for my access (since I authored the original article and since I have requested the access) and I will have an opportunity to save it and take some time to work on it to meet Wikipedias demanding standards :-)

At last check something was going on with it and things were being moved around internally - I hope to be back soon with good news.

YAY for you! This is good news indeed!

[Peskypict]

I WAS going to compliment her on having the guts to do a bikini to show the world her starting point, my personal motto is why show it when they make a perfectly good tshirt to cover it up, but the whole idea of what she did to her hubby for saying anything kinda put me past that.

Sincerely, congratulations on your weight loss TT that was quite an accomplishment. Now may I suggest you get some counselling.

[Gweebles]

Originally Posted by LISAinTN

My sister nearly died from diverticulitis in 2005. It was SO scary. Her bowel/colon (I'm not sure) ruptured and filled her body cavity with the poisons and waste. She was in the hospital for over 2 weeks while they tried to clean up and rid her body of the infection. Then a month or two later when she was strong enough, she was in the hospital for another week I think it was, while they did surgery for a colon restructuring. It was incredibly scary and the doctor said we came REALLY close to losing her. This is not something to mess with.

Please be carefiul and take care of yourselves. My friend has Khron's disease and they said that she may have had diverticulitis before that she never treated. She only has about 2 feet of intestine now, they have taken out so much. She is bones and it isn't pretty seeing her struggle.

[airse]

Originally Posted by Gweebles

couldn't PM you

529 North McKinley Street 104-309
Corona,
CA 92879 » Other
Primary Phone: (951) 258-3976 » Other
Primary Fax:
Primary Contact: Heidi Diaz,Owner » Other


This is from the BBB site. I used it.

Thanks Gweebles!!! Mel

[marymc]

You know, in a way, it's almost like the Stockholm syndrome isn't it?

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

I have asked the same question as Regandy of..."Why" do they stay?
It does puzzle those of us who have left Kimkins exactly what is it going to take for the members to decide to leave. But your post was very well said and it does help to understand some of the mindset of those who continue to stay.
If you think that some of the delay in other's leaving is the fact that they are not aware of everything that has happened do you think it benefits then for other members to post information in the forum to get the word out?
I ask because it is met with such hostility one would think it not to be beneficial in many cases and it is frustrating to try to help those who are not willing to be helped in many cases.
Thanks for sharing your viewpoint

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by Weedydidi

Geeze...no, I hadn't gotten to that yet.

She really is a piece of work. I'm trying to understand her pathology - refusing to acknowledge that she's been found out, that she's a sham, that she has any legal ties to the website at all. I must say I couldn't keep it up.

Sorry I didn't mean to spoil it for you so I will be shhhhhhhh on the rest. It only gets better....well in a bad evil way.

[marymc]

Me too kakay... that's awful.

Originally Posted by LISAinTN

I'm sorry about your Dad Kakay.

[Gweebles]

Originally Posted by Jazlyn

ummm..no

Maybe her doctor and my doctor can have a debate about it.

And I guess this person is calling Kimmer a stupid dummy since she ate very few calories and lost very fast.

My doctor gave me approval to do Kimkins. He said he needed a new car anyway.

note the sarcasm

[Gweebles]

Originally Posted by airse

Thanks Gweebles!!! Mel

No prob. I deal with AG complaints at my company and they DO require a response from the company. The more they get, the worse it gets for the company!

[SMP]

Originally Posted by kakay

... longer to live. I guess I'm saying this because all of the talk of colon problems brought back so many memories. IF you are having problems with your tummy swelling and not able to go to the bath room ,RUN DO NOT WALK TO YOUR DOCTOR.

Thank you for dredging up what must be very painful memories in order to emphasize your warning, Kakay. I must admit "being badly constipated" doesn't elicit the same kind of reaction as say, a "rattlesnake bite". It's treated cavalierly and joked about. But any kind of waste stoppage can become serious in just a few hours. Men with prostate problems discover this in hours when urine output ceases. Thanks again for your concern, and my condolences on losing your father prematurely under such circumstances.