Why the fascination with Kimmer? #6

[buzzybee]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

I did not.....but I'm happy this is up. Just one thing guys...my Mother passed away tonight but I'm OK. She was 90 and not in the best of health anymore.

I am so sorry to hear this. Please know that you and your family are in my prayers.

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by golite

Well, you were the last to reply so you viewed the last post already. You have to wait for next post and then it will show.

Some of us are just pokey

If you bookmark a page at the end of each day/night/wee hours of the morning, when you click on the next day it'll be there.

I use the bookmark feature, but I do it by laying a book on my laptop on the key board to keep the screen from being closed and turning my computer off.
I then that the computer doesn't do an automatic update and close the system down, because I just leave the computer on to decrease the time spent having to load the site.
But I have a feeling you are referring to a different type of bookmark here.

[MorganMacLeoid]

You guys seen the new logo at Borat Does Kimkins?

I nearly fell out of my royal gown!

Glad you like it :eyebrow waggle:

[EasyPeas]

Originally Posted by Princess Dieter

EasyPeas, this info is in HoneyBee2's siggy. Voila:

LINK TO THE BLOG PAGE
http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/blog.php?u=124458
LINK FOR SITES TO SEARCH
http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/blog.php?b=5
LINK FOR THE SUCCESS STORIES THOUGHT TO BE FRAUDULENT-
http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/blog.php?b=3
LINK FOR THE CONFIRMED FRAUDULENT SUCCESS STORIES-
http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/blog.php?u=124458
LINK FOR THE DON'T SEARCH WEBSITES-
http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/blog.php?b=6

If you look under stories "thought to be fraudulent", right below is the list of TRUE stories:

ALL THE STORIES BELOW ARE TRUE

*Deni
*Christin
*Rick
*Carolyn
*Lei Lei
*Tana
*Jeannie B
*cheryl A
*Rebecca
*Diane M
*Kim T
*Sharon
*Jennifer P
*Amy B
*Misty
*Kelly


The Princess

.

You know, I just checked... there's several missing....

1) Celeste.... does any one know which one I mean? Tall bleached blond in black, wearing boots....

2) Patricia, the retired judge from Newsletter 2

3) Tammy... the gal with the long fingernails and wedding picture in Newsletter 3

4) Deane... chubby blonde with glasses before, in a blue graduation cap & gown after .... Newsletter 4

There may be one or two more in the newsletters... I have to research it more... But I have screen shots of these before/afters... Celeste was on the homepage, the other 3 were in Newsletters. But I don't know how to post them here for others to see. The newsletters are still on the website in the archinves.

[Princess Dieter]

Blue, I fully expect your posts to stay put.

I don't see why they should be removed. Your opinion. I think TOS used as a weapon to shut up dissent is wrong at KK and would be wrong here. Notice it's not the "mean" posts at KK that we are criticizing for being banned. It's the normal asking questions posts. The regular inquiring posts. Simple, normal, non-vindictive posts getting taken off and people getting banned NOT for cussing or picking on someone else, but just for asking stuff.

Here, posts that have been very critical of the LCF tone have stayed put. And been responded to in various ways--some agreed we get too harsh, some say this is a free-for-all sort of thread and the sensitive should stay away.

SinglingLass came to talk about her telephone threats and received support. We agreed. Out of line. Criminal. Should be investigated and prosecuted. We didn't say, "Shut up and get outta here, you henchwoman." No, we listened and her posts stayed put and it was unanimous that the threatening calls were EVIL. We encouraged her to get the baddies and see them before the law.

One example, that.

Whistleblowers, by nature, break organizational rules. That's part of whistleblowing--you ditch confidentiality statements for the greater good. I see the people doing their thing over at KK as whistleblowers. We may disagree, but that's my POV. And just as you have yours, I have mine.

Tyrants are up for ridicule grabs. So are leaders, frankly. Heidi made herself a leader. Purposely. For financial Gain. So...she and the other leaders are totally up for ridicule grabs for supporting a fraudulent site and a perilous plan. Leaders who make themselves targets are fair game. Whether it's a liberal making fun of Bush or a conservative making fun of Hilary or however. Heidi is a tyrant and her henchmen support a bad regime with bad leadership repression, and mocking it is a good ole American form of protest. Well, and English, too.

They mock us, and we're not crying nanny-booboo. :::shrug::: We turn it into badges and art. That's a big difference, too.

Oh, and we didn't perpetrate all-out diet fraud. Yeah.

Notice that among the success stories are still those from people (Deni, Christin, etc) who have asked her to Cease and Desist because they do not support the plan or the system or the founder. Does Kimkins respect THAT? No. So, yeah, diet frauds who lie to get rich and then repress expression of concerns from members get mocked. Rightly so. And The Fawner...well....even the KK members see something's funny with her whizzing about in locked threads to gush about St. Kimmer.

The Princess

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by psychicscooter

Ummm.... someone might want to let Seen know that what she's doing is illegal and I assume that admin knows who she is.

I somehow missed this last night......but I wanted to say.
The admin at Kimkins should know since one of them is a PSYCHIC!!!

[golite]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

I use the bookmark feature, but I do it by laying a book on my laptop on the key board to keep the screen from being closed and turning my computer off.
I then that the computer doesn't do an automatic update and close the system down, because I just leave the computer on to decrease the time spent having to load the site.
But I have a feeling you are referring to a different type of bookmark here.

Smartypants!

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by EasyPeas

.

You know, I just checked... there's several missing....

1) Celeste.... does any one know which one I mean? Tall bleached blond in black, wearing boots....

2) Patricia, the retired judge from Newsletter 2

3) Tammy... the gal with the long fingernails and wedding picture in Newsletter 3

4) Deane... chubby blonde with glasses before, in a blue graduation cap & gown after .... Newsletter 4

There may be one or two more in the newsletters... I have to research it more... But I have screen shots of these before/afters... Celeste was on the homepage, the other 3 were in Newsletters. But I don't know how to post them here for others to see. The newsletters are still on the website in the archinves.

Are You saying you want the list of those that were a possible fraud? I misunderstood. I thought you needed the list of the true stories. I'm glad you got the screen shots!
1) Patricia from the newsletter is on the list at the bottom
2) Celeste is on there both of the pics before and after
3) No don't have her from the newsletter. You can post her pic and I can add to the blog
4)I didn't put Deane on the list because....the after pic was someone's graduation and I didn't think it would be something we would find on the Russian sites. I know the fact that it was clearly fake was discussed though.

[Princess Dieter]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

I somehow missed this last night......but I wanted to say.
The admin at Kimkins should know since one of them is a PSYCHIC!!!

Good point. She needs to recalibrate that psychic sense. She was a little late getting to her deleting chores. Someone probably had to call her to get on the move.

There was a great British show called The Singing Detective (turned into a movie I didn't see), and I"m thinking "The Singing Psychic" sounds like a great title for a novel.

The Princess

[HoneyBee2]

THESE ARE THE ONES CURRENTLY ON THE SEARCH LIST AS POTENTIALLY FAKE KIMKIN SUCCESS STORIES-
Bonnie Kimkins

Destiny
Kimkins

Marisol
Kimkins

Elizabeth
Kimkins


Pam
Kimkins

Bud
Kimkins

Al
Kimkins

Celeste
kimkins

Angela kimkins
Kimkins

Lisa V
Kimkins

Greg
Kimkins

Raquel-We have found one of her pictures but here are two others that are clearly different people.

Kimkins

Gretchen-
Kimkins

Linda Kimkins

Patricia the judge from the newsletter

Kimkins-Newsletter#2

[Princess Dieter]

I totally am not getting Marisol. If those are the same women, I'm eating my tiara.

A Russian gal turned into Jessica Alba?!

Plus that red-shirted lady didn't have 51 pounds to lose, unless her lower legs and feet were the fat part of her, and each lost 25.5 pounds. Dang.

The Princess

[EasyPeas]

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[Jenna07]

The only one that hit me as possible being the same person is Angela

P.S. Thank you everyone who has been working on this...I have been following it for a long time now and I can't believe how good of detectives you guys are!

[Reesie]

Originally Posted by Princess Dieter

Blue, I fully expect your posts to stay put.

I don't see why they should be removed. Your opinion. I think TOS used as a weapon to shut up dissent is wrong at KK and would be wrong here. Notice it's not the "mean" posts at KK that we are criticizing for being banned. It's the normal asking questions posts. The regular inquiring posts. Simple, normal, non-vindictive posts getting taken off and people getting banned NOT for cussing or picking on someone else, but just for asking stuff.


The Princess

Well this is a thought too,,, How many times has the Kimkins TOS been changed recently so as to make it more convenient to ban? Has LCF ever changed their's just on a whim more than once in the matter of a week?

[venusnredheels3]

Update: Earlier I posted that I had given Kimmer/Heidi access to my ss# throught the Kimkins Affiliates Program (still can't believe I trusted her )
Anyway I contacted all 3 credit reporting agencies and put an alert on my account. I also signed up for credit monitering at each. When I saw the copy of my credit report there was an inquiry on September 20, 2007. I know that I didn't request any credit any time lately so I'm not sure what that's about. So there could be a little credit card fraud going on or it could be something else entirely. I'm not accusing anyone, I just thought that it needed to looked into as a precaution. So experian is checking into that for me.
Just wanted to let everyone know. I urge anyone who used the Kimkins Affiliates program and gave the site their ss# to call all three credit reporting agencies (experian, transunion, and equifax) and have them put a fraud alert on your account. I would also urge you to sign up for credit monitoring and take a look at your credit report.

[EasyPeas]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Are You saying you want the list of those that were a possible fraud? I misunderstood. I thought you needed the list of the true stories. I'm glad you got the screen shots!
1) Patricia from the newsletter is on the list at the bottom
2) Celeste is on there both of the pics before and after
3) No don't have her from the newsletter. You can post her pic and I can add to the blog
4)I didn't put Deane on the list because....the after pic was someone's graduation and I didn't think it would be something we would find on the Russian sites. I know the fact that it was clearly fake was discussed though.

.
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Honeybee... sorry for the confusion! I did ask for the list of real stories... I then went and looked at the proven-false stories... However, I didn't notice the link that goes to the second page where all the missing-in-action before/after pics were located.

I don't know how to post the pics for Tammy (computer challenged here....) But here's a link to the actual newsletter itself.... (Newsletter 3)

Kimkins

By the way Honeybee... I commend you for the outstanding job you've done in organizing all of these photos and websites. It's much appreciated by all of us!

[golite]

Originally Posted by venusnredheels3

Update: Earlier I posted that I had given Kimmer/Heidi access to my ss# throught the Kimkins Affiliates Program (still can't believe I trusted her )
Anyway I contacted all 3 credit reporting agencies and put an alert on my account. I also signed up for credit monitering at each. When I saw the copy of my credit report there was an inquiry on September 20, 2007. I know that I didn't request any credit any time lately so I'm not sure what that's about. So there could be a little credit card fraud going on or it could be something else entirely. I'm not accusing anyone, I just thought that it needed to looked into as a precaution. So experian is checking into that for me.
Just wanted to let everyone know. I urge anyone who used the Kimkins Affiliates program and gave the site their ss# to call all three credit reporting agencies (experian, transunion, and equifax) and have them put a fraud alert on your account. I would also urge you to sign up for credit monitoring and take a look at your credit report.

Good for you! Was that inquiry a soft or hard?

[losingjusme]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

I did not.....but I'm happy this is up. Just one thing guys...my Mother passed away tonight but I'm OK. She was 90 and not in the best of health anymore. So if I take of sounding like Kimmer or something..you know why, lol.

Can't believe how much happened this week! Good job all!!.

Kat,
I am so sorry for your loss.

[Princess Dieter]

Originally Posted by Reesie

Well this is a thought too,,, How many times has the Kimkins TOS been changed recently so as to make it more convenient to ban? Has LCF ever changed their's just on a whim more than once in the matter of a week?

Reesie, even when folks have asked, "Could you please spell out, specifically, the TOS parameters, because I'm just so confused," they get vague answers.

Why? Because if you give specific answers, it's going to come down to: "Shut the hell up about anything that's not Pro-Kimmer and Pro-Kimkins."

The other issue is the PM monitoring. They were reading private PMs LONG BEFORE the Kimmer poop hit the fan. It was only when it was shown at The TRUTH and DUCKY that admins were reading PMs that some were getting a bit miffed by that. I'm assuming it wasn't revealed to members that their so-called private communications were being invaded. Only once it was discussed and exposed at the anti-KK blogs did they have to address it (admit it and spin it) for the membership.

If admins can read PMs, here there or wherever, it should be disclosed in the TOS, and call them "semi-private messages" to be honest.

The plethora of "What did I do wrong? I was respectful? I was not troublemaking!" posts from people with deleted posts is the smoking gun. And the people who I call whistleblowers who screenshot the posts before their deletions have the proof that some hugely innocuous and genuinely polite posts were zapped by the Komissars of KK within SECONDS.

No warning. No email to explain why a post was removed. Just zap...dont' ask questions. Drink the lovely Kool-Aid. See, isn't it all red and glistening and pretty? Huggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggiessssssssssssssss sssssssssssssssss

Sorry. It just came out.

The Princess

[FaithM.]

Originally Posted by LadyJ

Really really close....but, I don't think they are the same. Sisters??

Just what I was thinking...even twins possibly. It makes sense that sisters would take pics in the same dress. Just noticed they are wearing different shoes too...

I know that is neither here nor there since the important thing is she has been identified, just had to put in my own commentary.

[Reesie]

Originally Posted by Princess Dieter

Reesie, even when folks have asked, "Could you please spell out, specifically, the TOS parameters, because I'm just so confused," they get vague answers.

Why? Because if you give specific answers, it's going to come down to: "Shut the hell up about anything that's not Pro-Kimmer and Pro-Kimkins."

The other issue is the PM monitoring. They were reading private PMs LONG BEFORE the Kimmer poop hit the fan. It was only when it was shown at The TRUTH and DUCKY that admins were reading PMs that some were getting a bit miffed by that. I'm assuming it wasn't revealed to members that their so-called private communications were being invaded. Only once it was discussed and exposed at the anti-KK blogs did they have to address it (admit it and spin it) for the membership.

If admins can read PMs, here there or wherever, it should be disclosed in the TOS, and call them "semi-private messages" to be honest.

The plethora of "What did I do wrong? I was respectful? I was not troublemaking!" posts from people with deleted posts is the smoking gun. And the people who I call whistleblowers who screenshot the posts before their deletions have the proof that some hugely innocuous and genuinely polite posts were zapped by the Komissars of KK within SECONDS.

No warning. No email to explain why a post was removed. Just zap...dont' ask questions. Drink the lovely Kool-Aid. See, isn't it all red and glistening and pretty? Huggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggiessssssssssssssss sssssssssssssssss

Sorry. It just came out.

The Princess

I know!! That's what i'm saying you never know WHAT the TOS states it's constantly changing. And I don't like kool-aid, can I have something else please

[venusnredheels3]

GoLite, from what I could it was a soft inquiry, but I'm no expert. It really could be anything. I just wanted to let others know that they should be cautious.