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Old 10-06-2007, 10:08 PM   #2011
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Old 10-06-2007, 10:09 PM   #2012
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Old 10-06-2007, 10:10 PM   #2013
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My Kimkins Experiment



I thought you might want to know a little of my story since it’s quieter in here tonight. I haven’t really said anything in public anywhere else.

I just turned 51. My brother and I run a family tire business. My mother had a stroke in 1993, so our dad semi-retired. He found out that he had esophageal cancer in 1997 and passed away in 1991. They lived right around the corner from me. I was my mother’s caretaker. She was lost without Daddy because they married on his high school graduation night when she was 16 and he was 17. She had another stroke in 2003 which took the vision in the right half of her eyes. She passed away in April 2005.

I’m telling you this because after her death, I ate for grief, consolation, guilt, you name it. We had a wonderful family life growing up. I was lost without them. She was a wonderful cook and my Daddy was as skinny as a rail. We all ate our meals together, and I ate like one of the boys.

I lost about 80 pounds in the 80’s, but gained it back after I married in 1987. I lost the weight by going to The Diet Center. The plan there was a lot like KK’s. There was a M/E plan for faster weight loss. I can remember times when I didn’t eat at all because I was so sick of what was allowed. That’s basically what happens at KK’s.

I joined KK’s in December 2006, I think, because I knew my weight was way out of control. I found it by googling “fast weight loss.” I lurked a little, but decided to get serious in April because my mother passed away on the 22nd two years before. I officially started KK’s on April 28. Well, the site went down over Memorial Day weekend, so I came to LCF’s to read everything I could to keep me motivated. The thread started out positive, but morphed somewhere along the way. From reading here, I knew that the woman was seriously warped. She was so holier-than-thou, sarcastic, and downright mean-spirited. Then, by the end, she had left in this big huff to start her own site.

I’m like some of the others, I could believe the woman in the lawn chair, but when the site came back up and there was the girl in the red dress – wow! I just knew that something didn’t add up. I just stayed to myself and did very little posting, but I felt a connection there because of the people and because I had a subscription there. (At the time I joined, I really didn’t know there were free sites to get support.) I didn’t believe Kimmer, but I did believe Becky, Christin, Deni, etc. I stayed because of them. I was still checking back at LCF’s because I wanted to see what you were saying because from reading the other thread, I knew that everybody that had dealt with her was gunning for her – with good reason. That’s when I noticed the “Fascination” thread. When I saw all those pictures side by side, I knew she was lying, and I never bought that crap about her being afraid to be in public. Although, maybe she is afraid to be in public considering everything that has come to pass in the last few weeks. She didn’t want anyone to see her. I never could get my hands on a copy of the Woman’s World article. I don’t know if I really couldn’t find a copy or deep down, didn’t really want to see one.

Although, I stayed at KK’s, I still lurked here. At times, I got a little burnt, but I got over it because I knew you were right. I don’t know what the mind set is, but when you are on KK’s and losing that weight, you think, well, the plan works so I don’t care about her. In the back of my mind all along, I did care about her. I very seldom read her replies and I never pm’d her. I didn’t have the desire to communicate with her. Before I left, I did send a pm to two people there who have since been banned themselves.

I lurked at KK’s to see what was going on like everyone else. I signed up at Jimmy Moore’s and found refuge under Becky’s “tent.” Being under her tent with the rest of the refugees made me feel like I could open up and start posting. I didn’t even use my KK’s username at LCF’s when I signed up because I didn’t want any backlash from either side. I won’t say who I gave it to, but I wanted to go out of KK’s in a blaze of glory. I had an idea to give my username and password to someone I could trust and told them to use it when the time was right. They used it some time in the early morning after the news cast on KTLA. They flooded KK’s with links to the story. By morning, I was banned.

I don’t want to take up too much of your time, but from reading every post here, I feel like I know you all. I like it here, and I want to continue to visit with ya’ll. Let me say this about KK’s. Something does happen to you psyche. I stayed on regular KK’s from April 28 until the first of August. In that length of time, I lost about 65 pounds. My husband was worried about me and I was dissolving right before everyone’s eyes. I put the brakes on about the time Becky and the others started disappearing from KK’s. When they left, I knew something was definitely wrong, so I started looking for them. When I started reading all the health problems they were having, I knew I had to slow it down.

I have been maintaining my loss. I haven’t gained, but I haven’t lost. I am trying to get my head straight about eating. I found the Adkins ‘72 my mother had. I also have read information from Dana Carpenter, Somersize, StellaStyle, etc., so I know how to low carb. There are days when I didn’t eat at all and you just get this euphoria. Then, when the weight starts melting, you are determined to just keep it going. A lot of days, I stayed around the 600 calorie mark. I tried to do what Christin said she did. I went by what she listed for her carbs, fats, etc. One thing that probably did help me is that most days I did use regular mayonnaise and salad dressings. I ate dark meat and smoked pork roast, and I ate the fat, but I limited myself. I ate vegetables, but there were times I cooked green beans with no fat and measured the amounts. I can’t even believe I’m admitting to that. I didn’t make my Fitday public because I think that in my heart, I didn’t want anyone to see it. I knew I wasn’t eating enough. I live a small town, and I didn’t post that information either. I haven’t told anyone here how I lost the weight although they all want to know. I’m glad I never told anyone, but husband. I have since told my brother, but not really all of it.

This thing has been building up with me like the picture controversy that I followed here along with you sharing how she had answered and treated people here. Then, Jimmy Moore joined KK and left, and I followed all of that including the interviews with her and that little sweet (YUCK) voice. After that, there was the mass banning and the PI pictures. Now, didn’t they take the cake? Or, should I say sprinkled sugar cookies! Next comes the news story on KTLA and then, the famous Russian bride pictures.

I think when I felt like gas had been poured on me was to think that Heidi/Kimmer was telling people they were eating too much fat, to spritz their salad, eat lettuce and wash it down with flavored water while SHE WAS EATING EVERTHING THAT DIDN’T EAT HER FIRST. And, then she talks in that little baby voice. That voice sounds kind of funny coming out of Shamu.

The best part of the whole thing, and yes, there is a best part is that I have met a lot of really nice people through KK’s and LCF’s. I hope continue to be a part of your group. I would like for you to accept me here as a low carb friend.

Thanks for listening,
Marcia

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Rebel Marcia - thanks for sharing that. I want to be accepted here as a low carb friend too. Hopefully hearing your story will help others want to leave KK
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((((Rebel)))) Oh, do I know about eating for comfort. I gained a lot of weight the years my mother was dying, especially the 8 months of her final, agonizing decline. Man, I still get the shakes thinking about it.

Debbie, normal folks with normal minds just have to be agog at what that woman has been capable of. CAuse, you know, it wouldn't enter OUR brains to do THAT. It's not insane. No, it's evil.

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Old 10-06-2007, 10:11 PM   #2015
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BTW, here is another pic that was on Kimkins:Kimkins.com - Home (Scroll to the very bottom of the page)

Has anyone found if this pic was real or not?
I clicked the link and my computer is not displaying the pics.
Can you copy the one in question and put it in a post here?
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Old 10-06-2007, 10:12 PM   #2016
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Marcia - that is an amazing story. Thank you for sharing it. It really sums up why this amazing group of people have worked so diligently for so long and so hard. Im glad you have joined us. There will be lots of love and laughs as you go along with us. Glad to have you officially here.
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Old 10-06-2007, 10:12 PM   #2017
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Marcia, wonderful post! I feel so stupid because I kept wondering how Heidis face could change so much but I didnt investigate. Blinded I was.

Im getting tired and a wee bit punchy. I read your comment "That voice sounds kind of funny coming out of Shamu" and I couldnt quit laughing. Again my hubby over in the livingroom thinking I have lost my mind. I dont think Ive laughed this much in years, many clever folks in this BB.
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For those who didn't get to see Seen in action...

Seen thrashes the kimkins forums (original) . . . . . .Seen thrashes the kimkins forums (cropped & zoomed)
if you hover over the bottom right corner and then click on the subsequent "resize" button, look carefully down the right hand side you'll see in small print nearly every post is seen
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Old 10-06-2007, 10:13 PM   #2019
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pazihim ~ all I see are gray boxes.
They are all grey boxes except the last one. You have to scroll down to almost the end of the page.

I'll try to cut and paste it...
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Old 10-06-2007, 10:13 PM   #2020
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I have been a member of this board and Kimkins. I first seen her here on this board and was quite impressed with her knowledge. Call me stupid but I really thought this women knew what she was talking about and truly cared about people. I thought she was a well put together person and had all her ducks in a row( excuse the pun). I hadn't really been going on her site much this summer but just lately noticed a change but I had NO idea what was going on until a couple days ago. I AM TOTALLY FREAKING!!!! Please tell me I am not the only person who is stunned? I feel so stupid so used and abused. I too lost 30 some pounds on K/E and I was losing lots of hair every day in the shower. I had blood work done because of heart palpations which I thought was due to my thyroid. I fell off the diet due to immense hunger. I could not understand why everyone said they weren't hungry and when I would lower my calorie to 300-400 a day like some said would even make you less hungry..... I could only take it for so long. DUH... I am the kind of person who is honest and I guess I trust people. I would of NEVER of thougth kimmer to be a fraud in a million years. It makes me nervous about trusting anyone and I love the support on a bb. I am to the point I don't even know how to low carb. I am so confused on how to eat this way and had been so scared on eating too much. I do feel like I have been brain washed to kimmers way of thinking. I need some guidance here. I would like to know how to do low carb the correct way to see results and be healthy. How can a person like Kimmer live with herself? Does she not have a soul? I would never intentionally hurt anyone, & and it makes me ill to know she has affected peoples health and thinks OH WELL.... I am having a hard time with this. Please tell me I am not the only one here who is in shock over this?
Hi Debbie - you definitely are not the only one here that is in shock. This thread is full of shocked people (like me) who are searching for what to do now. I tend to be trusting too, and I don't know what it takes for a person to intentionally scam people, and for others to keep following when they know its a scam. There is a really good thread on healing your metabolism. It's a sticky somewhere, but I don't know where. Someone here can direct you to it if you haven't seen it already.
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Rebel... I'm so happy you feel comfy enough with us now, to share...
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I have been a member of this board and Kimkins. I first seen her here on this board and was quite impressed with her knowledge. Call me stupid but I really thought this women knew what she was talking about and truly cared about people. I thought she was a well put together person and had all her ducks in a row( excuse the pun). I hadn't really been going on her site much this summer but just lately noticed a change but I had NO idea what was going on until a couple days ago. I AM TOTALLY FREAKING!!!! Please tell me I am not the only person who is stunned? I feel so stupid so used and abused. I too lost 30 some pounds on K/E and I was losing lots of hair every day in the shower. I had blood work done because of heart palpations which I thought was due to my thyroid. I fell off the diet due to immense hunger. I could not understand why everyone said they weren't hungry and when I would lower my calorie to 300-400 a day like some said would even make you less hungry..... I could only take it for so long. DUH... I am the kind of person who is honest and I guess I trust people. I would of NEVER of thougth kimmer to be a fraud in a million years. It makes me nervous about trusting anyone and I love the support on a bb. I am to the point I don't even know how to low carb. I am so confused on how to eat this way and had been so scared on eating too much. I do feel like I have been brain washed to kimmers way of thinking. I need some guidance here. I would like to know how to do low carb the correct way to see results and be healthy. How can a person like Kimmer live with herself? Does she not have a soul? I would never intentionally hurt anyone, & and it makes me ill to know she has affected peoples health and thinks OH WELL.... I am having a hard time with this. Please tell me I am not the only one here who is in shock over this?
You are NOT the only one. It's happened to all of us at different times over the past few months. It's hard to accept at first. Many of us are having difficulty sorting out the diet issues. Please go to the Building a healthy WOE thread to get some great info on how to do low carb in a healthy way. You'll learn why fat is so important and just can't be taken to such low levels. Also, you may want to check out the Kimkins Refugees thread for support.

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Kiki - last I heard the Rockies were winning.....sorry about the quick thread jack
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Seen thrashes the kimkins forums (original) . . . . . .Seen thrashes the kimkins forums (cropped & zoomed)
if you hover over the bottom right corner and then click on the subsequent "resize" button, look carefully down the right hand side you'll see in small print nearly every post is seen
That was so thrilling to watch unfold. Man, I'm glad I was up.

BTW, there's a thread on "Turkey Neck"! Is that, um, like neck wattle or is that about eating actual turkey necks? That looked mighty strange.

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On a lighter note -- my husband is away this weekend on a motorcycle trip. He has to stand on top of a buddy's camper to call me. One of the first things he wanted to know is if there was any new news on Heidi/Kimmer.
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Kiki - last I heard the Rockies were winning.....sorry about the quick thread jack
I may not get to a SUper Bowl parade this year.....again, but it's looking good for a World Series one! I'm not a sporty kinda girl, but I loves me a good parade!!!

End thread jack...
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On a lighter note -- my husband is away this weekend on a motorcycle trip. He has to stand on top of a buddy's camper to call me. One of the first things he wanted to know is if there was any new news on Heidi/Kimmer.
It's so funny how so many of us, have our familes all involved in this.. I get the same question a lot...
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So could there be ANY better World Series than Rockies/Red Sock -if this marriage survies THAT we will survive ANYTHING
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I clicked the link and my computer is not displaying the pics.
Can you copy the one in question and put it in a post here?
I tried to cut and paste it but it would not let me.

Scroll to the very bottom, it's the only functioning picture that works on that page.

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THANKS to everyone for making me feel welcome. I hope to continue to share and have fun with you while we are exposing the great Heidi/Kimmer.
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So could there be ANY better World Series than Rockies/Red Sock -if this marriage survies THAT we will survive ANYTHING
Long as you cheer the RIGHT team on.... Then you can come back for the parade!!!!
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