Why the fascination with Kimmer? #6

[Diana]

Originally Posted by Melly

BuzzyBee you are to be Honored!!!!

I think we should hereby declare that every October 5th should be

BuzzyBee Day

No doubt!!!

[Diana]

Oh I see it is going to be a busy day!!

Re:SL: I need clarification on the TOS 10 Minutes ago
Tippy wouldn't you agree that this diet plan is _base_d on the success of the founder Kimmer? You can't separate the diet plan and Kimmer into two pieces. She is the reason for this plan's success. Kimmer IS Kimkins.

We all signed up to learn how to accomplish what she did. If she never did it, what did we buy then?

We all know reducing calories by as low as 500 per day results in weight loss. Nobody needed to join to learn that. People signed up for Kimmer's guidance and her active participation on this site. We signed up due to the tremendous success stories published.

Maybe it doesn't bother you or others on this site, but it sure bothers me to think I was lied to. And to see others get banned for the saying the same thing. And it bothers me that I believed all the success stories that have turned out to be fabrications.

This diet plan was misrepresented to us, plain and simple.

[serenity_aus]

I just felt my day would not be complete without posting this reminder of where we've come from. *Apologies in advance if it takes a while to load*

[GApeach23]

Originally Posted by Melly

Hiya Karen.......long time girl

Hiya my dear ole posting buddy. Yeah just when I got back on here got a new job starting Monday will be working 12 hour days so I'll be MIA again, but weight loss is still going down again finally.

I'll still try and pop in at night and hope this really kicks up the weight loss.

Hope you and yours are well.

End of thread jack..........

[Diana]

Originally Posted by serenity_aus

I just felt my day would not be complete without posting this reminder of where we've come from. *Apologies in advance if it takes a while to load*

I love it!!!! I needed a good laugh this AM!!!!

[BamaGal]

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

McLurky...those must be houndstooth pants you're wearing! I'll second that Roll Tide! and say to Coach Saban for you!

Originally Posted by McLurkypants

Actually...

It's a houndstooth T-shirt!
If you are in T-town for the game, come by our Game Day Goodies stand in front of Egan's and say hi! We have everything houndstooth you can imagine ;-)

And a Big ROLL TIDE ROLL to both of you
McLurkyPants-I'll be in TTown next weekend--only time to camp at Deerlick when Bama is on the road-can't get in when it's a home game.....nice to see close neighbors here

Originally Posted by serenity_aus

***NEWS FLASH***
Source: Rooters: 6 October 2007
The *Lesya* know, the *more-ya* understand-
Kimkins: Just Say Nyet!

As for the army of "seen" ---kudos to y'all for all the hard work---

[abbymommy]

ok this morning I had to update dh on the "seen" scene, he was so excited and thought that was great Go team seen, wonder how the clean-up effort is this morning, any one know?

The idea he liked the best was sending Lesya (red dress Kimmer) a Kimkins or SNATT shirt and her photographed giving the finger. He said that would be totally worth the money

[Diana]

LOL They are on it this AM!!!

Re:What a Fool I've been 32 Minutes ago
well, the original poster was in here ranting and raving about how she'd been lied to and frauded!
I told her I didn't understand how she could feel that way or view the situation as such...
and encouraged her to get over such bitterness and stay the course.....
suppose she either got the band or gave up!
it is ashame as this site is filled with great information and even better support / friends!

remember, this plan works if you work it!
never forget, YOU CAN!
have a sensational weekend!
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Re:What a Fool I've been 18 Minutes ago
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[mimom3]

I'm sorry is this has been discussed, but I am 50 pages behind and don't know if I can ever catch up.

But...has anyone from Kimkins addressed all of the fake B/A pictures? What could they possibly say? When I saw the first one show up as fake, I was shocked, yet I knew it all along.

Bravo to all of the detectives.......

[MidwestMommy]

Originally Posted by abbymommy

ok this morning I had to update dh on the "seen" scene, he was so excited and thought that was great Go team seen, wonder how the clean-up effort is this morning, any one know?

The idea he liked the best was sending Lesya (red dress Kimmer) a Kimkins or SNATT shirt and her photographed giving the finger. He said that would be totally worth the money

I think if they send her one, someone should take it to t t-shirt shop first and have them do the red circle and line with Nyet! across the SNATT or KIMKINS logo

[Keepugesin]

I want to show my husband the "after" kimmer picture of her in the reclining chair with the blonde hair and the black shirt, does anyone have that "after" picture anywhere?

[kiwi8]

OM Gosh, I too am behind like 30 pages EEEKKKK.......can someone give me the stats here, what are the key points for the past day????

I'm going back to like page 30 arrrr will I ever catch up LOL

[Caro23]

Kimmer, there's no smaller jail cell. None.

[gibster]

From TT:


I am a success as well. I lost 112 lbs all total. First 50 from Atkins and the rest from kimkins. Take a look in the challenge threads too. We are everywhere.

I am in total agreement calories should not ever get to 500 a day or worse. We don't have calorie limits on any plans. When I am doing original Kimkins or even the shake plan I keep mine around 800. That's still PLENTY low enough for a fast loss.

Also, everyone, I am over at Camp Kimkins on the challenge threads. We are looking for newbies to chop firewood, do dishes and shovel ****. Please come join us! All are welcome.


Success will be mine!
Student

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Re:How do I get to a List of Success Stories? 12 Minutes ago Slim Dreams, I agree with your original post though! Not to stir problems, but simply that was my favorite part of the site and it's sooooooo annoying to keep refreshing. I kept getting the same 7 or 8 stories over and over, and none where what I was looking for! The only one remotely close was Jennifer P, because I love her pictures...but I always read Gretchen, Susan, Raquel, and a few others and I haven't been able to load them once. I know 'success stories' are in the forums, but those were always my insta-fix, ya know? So, I've just been looking at MSN Weight Loss Success Stories instead.

Anywho, no matter. Things are a-changin'.

And TippyToes...what the crap? Is your comment your humor (and I DO find it amusing, but just curious!) or is someone messing with your post when you say you're at Camp Kimkins and you're looking for people to shovel poo? Everytime I see it I'm like FTW?!?!?!

[Violet Skye]

kiwi, in our top news story, the Red Dress Pic was located at a Russian brides website. Then "seen" carpet-bombed the KK site with hundreds, yes hundreds of posts addressing this fact. seen, and a few others, IIRC, went down in a blaze of glory. And we partied like it's 1999!

[jlshields]

Originally Posted by bluejeans

You found the red dress??!!!! Good on every single one of you that went bug-eyed while trying to.

Well that honestly and truly was the icing on the cake for me. Not that I didn't believe a word you were all saying to begin with, because she screamed guilty from the get go. But I made a deal with myself that once that red dress was found, because I knew it would be, I'd be outta there.

Now...., to get my money back, and to get to know all of you folks over here trying a healthier low carb lifestyle.

So hiya. I'm bluejeans. Looks like we may be spending some time together......

to you and anyone else who has come on board here in the past few days.

BBL with a long post from over there.

[Diana]

Originally Posted by Princess Dieter

Diana, thanks for the Alexa link. I'm going to email those sites still linking (only about 20 listed there). I sent this right now to Contact Us :

You are shown on Alexa (and on your own site) as linking to Kimkins.com.

Kimkins.com has been profiled on news reports on KTLA television on Oct 2 and Oct 3 as a scam/fraud diet. It is under investigation. A class action suit is being prepared for it.

I respectfully request you reconsider promoting this site by linking to it. This diet is harming people, and many former members and administrators, including a former partner, are speaking out against the diet and its con artist founder--Kimmer aka Heidi Diaz.

Please investigate as warranted and remove this link. Thanks,


I tried not to be a screeching virago about it. Maybe I should have posted links? Ah, well, if they're not blithering dolts, they can easily Google it like the rest of us.

I wanted to thank the ladies doing the Wikipedia. The article looks GREAT and the links list is helpful.

I spent two hours searching one of the Russian Bride sites last night until my hand cramped and I started thinking, "Oh, that one looks like this singer and that one looks like that actress..." Then I went into some trance. I only found some of the ones already listed as found by our intrepid seekers, and also another pic of "Kim Drake" aka Tatyana. One that is more human and less cyborg-lady. She's lsted as Tatjana uf8514 over at spring kiss: VIP - class traditional marriage club But that might have already been found, too. Don't remember.

I thought I had seen that Jessica Alba lookalike on one of the sites the other night, but I haven't stumbled upon her again.

I hope by the time I type this, the red dress has been found. But I"m way behind on this thread. For all I know, it's closed and this won't go through. HAH.

I do wonder at the folks at Kimkins still allowing themselves to be censored and abused by admins and annoyed by gentlefawn (who's passive aggressive fawn in my book.) They should just follow their gut--which is telling them something is very, very wrong--and go ask for their money back at Paypal or in notarized letter.

People at Kimkins: TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS and YOUR INTERNAL WARNING LIGHT. LEAVE!

The Princess

Awesome work!

[amadeus4313]

Originally Posted by Cutie

"seen" is hilarious! lol

now "fawn" on the other hand....um...

. . . makes you want to hurl?

[jlshields]

Looks like thge admins are going to be busy today trying to justify their actions! This is a long exchange and ongoing as I type

SL: I need clarification on the TOS 9 Hours, 29 Minutes ago
I am sorry SL. I don't want to be a trouble maker. I am mostly a lurker on the board and you have probably gathered. But I find this controversy thing really upsetting. Can you please clarify what we can and cannot post about all he controversy that is going on. I know many posts have been deleted. And I was thinking that if perhaps there is no confusion about how the TOS work, therer would be less anxiety/uncertainty.It seems to me that any mention of the controversy/_link_s etc. is a no no. Is that correct? Will anyone posting information about the site be banned and their posts deleted?Thanks again for your patience and consideration. Please note, although no boardcode and smiley buttons are shown, they are still useable



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SingingLass (Admin) Singing a *lighter* tune---heehee! Admin Posts: 878
Re:SL: I need clarification on the TOS 4 Hours ago
Hi there....its not ' any mention" of the controversy, but rather those who do so specifically to cause problems. basically if people come on here to taunt, challenge, argue with other members and interupt things in a distracting way...that is when we have to take action. if you notice, there are quite a few discussions across the boards about things, just there is a line between discussing and attacking, if that makes sense. We do not want the _link_s, because those sites are easy enough to find if any one wants to visit them.....but what is happening is people coming on here and mass posting/ spamming with those _link_s somehow thinking they are going to "save" people. In reality, it just upsets most-----a great many of the deletes that happen are by the request of other members to take action and to keep this place as positive as possible. By this point and time, most everyone here is aware of what is going on, and are here by their choice, their own positive experiences and weight loss....and they do not appreciate others trying to tell them what to think, choose, or do with their own bodies. It amazes me as I take care of mass-spammers, when I see birthdates placing people in the 40-50 range, yet they are using tactics you would expect from kids. Other standard rules of thumb are to watch language content, and to not personally attack fellow members. Please note, although no boardcode and smiley buttons are shown, they are still useable


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Maid of Erin (User) Newbie Posts: 17
Re:SL: I need clarification on the TOS 2 Hours ago
Hi there....its not ' any mention" of the controversy, but rather those who do so specifically to cause problems. basically if people come on here to taunt, challenge, argue with other members and interupt things in a distracting way...that is when we have to take actionI'm so glad to hear an admin say that we are now allowed to mention the controversy without being banned, SL. Are we allowed to discuss the allegations to this plan and the news story as long as we do it in a polite and respectful way? It seems like some people who asked legitimate questions had their threads deleted. Thanks!Erin Please note, although no boardcode and smiley buttons are shown, they are still useable



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Tippy Toes (Admin) Admin Posts: 1037
Re:SL: I need clarification on the TOS 1 Hour, 36 Minutes ago
It is almost impossible to discuss these things without someone jumping in and making 50 copies of the post all over the boards for us to clean up. This really takes time from newbies especially along with others who have questions about the diet and need help. We know there is a video from the newscast but we really know nothing more than you do. Personally I feel and have always felt the diet should remain our primary focus since that's why we are all here. Questions concerning the DIET PLANS are always welcome. Questions concerning the diet's founder cannot be answered anyways as we do not know. Additionally we feel YOU deserve 100% privacy on the web and we feel the same for our founder. We would defend your privacy in the same way. Fact: Kimkins diets work and work as promised.Fact: We do recommend you have a Doctor's approval before you begin Kimkins or any other weight loss plan.Fact: There is no faster weight loss--none. Fact: There are no calorie limits on Kimkins. It is a myth to pin a calorie number to any plan here. Even bootcamp calories vary depending on protein choices.Fact: We do not promote starvation or laxitive use.Fact: We have plenty of genuine success stories. And we would like to see you as the next one. Fact: The website is not closing.Fact: We have many exciting events coming up including a gathering. We hope to see many of you join us. Please note, although no boardcode and smiley buttons are shown, they are still useable


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JODIB (User) I'M MELTING!!!! Teacher Posts: 940
Re:SL: I need clarification on the TOS 1 Hour, 27 Minutes ago
I guess I am still confused. A kimkins member I know well who has always been very supportive and positive to everyone was banned after she sent a pm with the _link_ to the news story to 2 members of a challenge forum she started. She was and is very upset by this action and very puzzled by it too. I echo her confusion and think that the TOS needs further clarification. Please advise.JODIB Please note, although no boardcode and smiley buttons are shown, they are still useable


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Tippy Toes (Admin) Admin Posts: 1037
Re:SL: I need clarification on the TOS 1 Hour, 25 Minutes ago
I see. Can you please PM me with her email addy? I'll also need her username here. Maybe I can help. Please note, although no boardcode and smiley buttons are shown, they are still useable


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Fat_Mom_Walking (User) Student Posts: 144
Re:SL: I need clarification on the TOS 1 Hour, 18 Minutes ago
Hi there....its not ' any mention" of the controversy, but rather those who do so specifically to cause problems. basically if people come on here to taunt, challenge, argue with other members and interupt things in a distracting way...that is when we have to take action. if you notice, there are quite a few discussions across the boards about things, just there is a line between discussing and attacking, if that makes sense. We do not want the __link__s, because those sites are easy enough to find if any one wants to visit them.....but what is happening is people coming on here and mass posting/ spamming with those __link__s somehow thinking they are going to "save" people. In reality, it just upsets most-----a great many of the deletes that happen are by the request of other members to take action and to keep this place as positive as possibleSL: My post from last night in response to Fawn's comments about business practices - in general - has been deleted. I am asking this question in light of what you have posted here. My post was not taunting, challanging or arguementative and did not fit the criteria you stated above. It was simply a discussion of what constitutes fraud. I was very clear to state that i was not implying that anyone of this board had committed fraud. Can you shed some light on why that post was deleted? Please note, although no boardcode and smiley buttons are shown, they are still useable


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Tippy Toes (Admin) Admin Posts: 1037
Re:SL: I need clarification on the TOS 1 Hour, 16 Minutes ago
Singinglass will not be on till this afternoon. So she doesn't miss this post can you please PM her too? Please note, although no boardcode and smiley buttons are shown, they are still useable


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Maid of Erin (User) Newbie Posts: 17
Re:SL: I need clarification on the TOS 43 Minutes ago
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Re:SL: I need clarification on the TOS 15 Minutes ago
..Thank-you for this post.... you state so clearly the issue that is really troubling me. I am trying to "be on board" and "be postive" and all that. But I am very troubled by the now well-documented lack of integrity on the part of the founder. You state "Kimmer IS Kimkins" and you are so right. The plan is even named after her. Apart from whether or not the diet works, it was marketed to us using methods that lack integrity. And people are not acknowleging that fact. It's like a dysfunctional family that desperately tries to look happy and normal to all the neighbors, and no one talks about the fact that dad gets drunk all the time and then beats on mom. It's like "if we don't talk about it, then it isn't happening". It is so sad to me. No one seems to be troubled by the lack of integrity that's been displayed. Kind regards.Edited to add: The post I responded to has been deleted... so this post of mine may not make sense. Sorry if that's the case. Please note, although no boardcode and smiley buttons are shown, they are still useable



Re:SL: I need clarification on the TOS 13 Minutes ago
are you the same Maid of Erin from LCF Please note, although no boardcode and smiley buttons are shown, they are still useable



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Maid of Erin (User) Newbie Posts: 17
Re:SL: I need clarification on the TOS 11 Minutes ago
Why was my post deleted when it was polite and respectful. Singinglass posted that we were allowed to discuss it in a rational manner. Has that changed? Please note, although no boardcode and smiley buttons are shown, they are still useable

[Madam De Leon]

Wow. Just wow.

Best. News. Ever.

Congrats on the carpet bombing, hopefully lots and lots of those were emailed before the sanitation began!

Loved the Rooters News release too!

[2big4mysize]

I see the party is still going. on great job Seens and now all those emailed posts will live forever with the kimkins members who got then so even scrubbing the site of Seens will not erase the message.


anybody still wanting to look for more fake after pics there are a few guys left and a couple of ladies. Check out the sites covered already and the found ones in the blogs Honeybee2 set up. either click the link in her siggy or click BLOG in your tool bar at the top of this page. And a hugh thank you to her for coordinating the effort.I know knowing a site had already been scoured let me go look at some smaller sites to find the red dress too. since it is one them maybe the rest of the missing fakes are there too cuase is seems she lifted several from a site and moved on.