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Old 10-05-2007, 08:01 AM   #301
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I'm noticing, too - the same site points out which sites still link to kk.com

Alexa Web Search - Results for link%3Akimkins.com%2F

Have they already been contacted about the scam?
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Old 10-05-2007, 08:03 AM   #302
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Well, It's official, I've been banned. Can't imagine why. Oh, maybe it was my recent post which I'm sure was deleted immediately, so I was smart enough to cut and paste it to share!!

So let's see...

*A site that promised direct access to "Kimmer" is no longer providing access to her
*An ebook that turned into an ePage
*Phony success stories with pics actually taken from Russian Bride Sites (most of which were magically erased within hours of its discovery)
*Several Admins and PR people that hit the high road

I'm sure there is plenty more that I am missing, feel free to fill in the blanks.

This is no longer a matter of whether Kimkins works or not, it is the cherade that is being played. As others have said, this is not what I signed on for. So for those requesting a refund, what is the outcome going to be~ ignoring emails is not a solution!

How long do you really think you can leave everyone in the dark??
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Queeny are you kidding me? You really thought she was "smarter".....she proved to me a LONG time ago that she was NOT the brightest crayon in the box
Melly I am talking waaaaaaaaaay back in the day. I gave her benefit of the doubt but then gave her enough rope to hang herself. Hang herself is exactly what she did.
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Old 10-05-2007, 08:05 AM   #305
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Melly I am talking waaaaaaaaaay back in the day. I gave her benefit of the doubt but then gave her enough rope to hang herself. Hang herself is exactly what she did.
Ain't it sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
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This just in over on KK:

Wow. Where is my post? 45 Minutes ago
About 2 minutes ago, I posted a question about a response I received when tryng to post on the "I have a question" thread.

The administrator has disabled public write access.
Only logged in / registered users
are allowed to contribute to the forum.

I am a registered user.


But now that post is missing. I am not sure what is up.
Re:Wow. Where is my post? 40 Minutes ago
I was reading a post a few minutes ago "I want a Refund" and went to look at user profile, came back and it was gone. I have been amazed today how quickly I am watching post appear and disappear. Almost seems silly that so much effort is going into it. I am sure this one will disappear also.
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Old 10-05-2007, 08:08 AM   #308
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Wikipedia Kimkins Controversy article

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Thanks for your hard work on this. How come when I search on Kimkins, it doesn't find the page? If I search on Kimkins Controversy, it comes right up. Are there keywords or something that need to be defined? Thanks!
Thanks! I was beginning to doubt whether anybody gave a crap :-)

I'm working on the search aspect. I've submitted a help request & hope to have the article indexed into the Wikipedia categories system - once I figure it out. I had no clue how complex Wikipedia was when it came to creating/editing articles. A real learning experience to be sure! Great exercise editing & sourcing.
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Old 10-05-2007, 08:09 AM   #309
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Melly she did it all herself. The more I read, the deeper she gets.

ps. waving to all the Babes!!!!!!!!

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Hair Loss 1 Day, 1 Hour ago
I was wondering if anyone is experiencing hair loss? I have noticed that in the past 2 months my hair seems to be falling out. Not in chunks or anything just there is always alot on the floor, curling iron and in the brush. I did have that problem 12 years ago when I did another diet but then I had just had a baby and thought it was post-pregnancy.
I asked my hair dresser if I should be taking extra vitamins and she told me Calcium, Magnesium, and Zinc. I've been doing that for about a week and haven't seen any difference. Just curious if anyone has a suggestion or similar experience. I've been on Kimkins since June 3rd.
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Re:Hair Loss 1 Day, 1 Hour ago
I don't know the answer to that - I always had some hair loss after babies, hormonal changes, etc. But I think hair loss can signal other issues as well. If you haven't just had a baby, I would see a doc, to see if it is hormonal change or something else. We do always need to be aware that our diet can affect things like this. Is it sometimes too much protein? Or a sign to add in more fat or veggies or something? Is it also a sign of a thyroid problem sometimes

Re:Hair Loss 23 Hours, 42 Minutes ago
Great question....I am having the same problem. I started on June 8 and have lost 68 lbs so our losses are similar. I'm not losing chunks but more than what is normal for me. I have very thick hair so it's not a problem but, I know that healthy hair that grows very fast is a sign of good health in general within the body. My hair isn't growing as fast as it usually does either. If anyone has any answers on this one it would be appreciated


Re:Hair Loss 23 Hours, 29 Minutes ago
You should contact your doctors regarding hair loss, or any other side effects. Sometimes, losing weight can cause hair to thin and fall out, but you should visit w/your physicians.
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Re:Hair Loss 23 Hours, 28 Minutes ago
Okay I am having the same problem. My DH has even commented on it so I really know that it is falling out more. So I went to the Beauty Parlor and asked - they recommended vitamins for hair. So they sell them or go the the health food store and get some hair vitamins. I think it is starting to help.......

deelady

Re:Hair Loss 15 Hours, 42 Minutes ago
Here is what I've experienced and heard:
I started Atkins about 5 years ago and had the pleasure of losing 40 pounds, very quickly. And then I noticed my hair starting to come out. The key word there is, at this point, "noticed". I was part of a forum, and the word around the forum is that a person loses 100 hairs a day as an average. Here is a quote from a website: "Hair loss can be triggered by a variety of factors including pregnancy, stress, surgery and age-related hormonal changes, to name a few. But few people realize that weight loss can also cause hair to shed, likely due to a nutritional deficiency. Although iron deficiency is often associated with diet-related hair loss, a range of nutrient deficiencies can result in thinning hair, dermatologists say. Changes in levels of zinc, magnesium, protein, essential fatty acids and vitamins D, B and A can all trigger episodes of shedding hair. The problem affects both men and women, but women are more likely to notice it and seek treatment, say doctors." I have found this to be true. It isn't so much KIMKINS that is the problem, because I do believe I am eating healthier: lean protein, veggies, lots and lots of water, no sweets, junk foods, or junky snacks, but the CHANGE that our bodies are going through. And sudden weight loss is a very big change. The article goes on to say that "diet-related hair loss is temporary and may last only two to six months." Balanced diet = balanced hair. Here's the website - I believe I have taken the tone correctly...Changes in diet can sometimes lead to hair loss, by Tara Parker-Pope, first published 9/13/05.

Here is another website to peruse: Hair Loss - Diet and Hair Loss

So, what to do about it? Well, of course, I keep an eye on my head...this gal ain't lookin' to be bald. But I also take 2500mg (I think it's mg...the bottle is a floor away) of biotin every day, for hair and nails. Having seen this post and done just a little research, I think I may add zinc and magnesium, and make sure I am taking my vitamins (A, B, D). I am, at this point, comfortable (I didn't say that I liked it!) with the loss, as I do not have clumps coming off in my hands. I mostly notice when I am coming my hair after a shower, or when I am combing it out after a drive with the windows down. I have long hair, so that it a factor also.

Hope this helps!


Re:Hair Loss 15 Hours, 16 Minutes ago
I also was reading up on hair loss, I started on 6/13/07 and am haveing some hair loss, nothing to be alarmed about yet...my beautician also told me that with her experience with diets and hair loss in her customers, she stated that it is usually temporary. And I have been takeing for the entire time on this woe, a multi vit, and extra magn, potass, C, Calcium and I just went and got a hair and nail multi vit with biotin in it. So hopefully that will take care of it, if I get too concerned, I will seek advice from my family physician. But for now it is not to that point. (I also read that it takes 4mo for your body when starting a diet to start reacting...and some hair loss is one of them)
Good luck all
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Re:Hair Loss 14 Hours, 7 Minutes ago
Thank you everyone for your comments!!! I have been taking a multi vitamin and now added other things like the cal/mag/zinc and other vitamin/ mineral supplements. I do have a slow thyroid which was just checked so now for the physical that the doctor ordered. I am not worried about the hair loss just I noticed I have to clean up after myself every morning. I have had short hair most of my life so now that I've grown it out as far as it will go seeing it all over the bathroom floor was making me concerned

Re:Hair Loss 13 Hours, 25 Minutes ago
Hello guys!

Now I'm new to kimkins....and not a doctor but, may I say I had a problem with hair loss when I started a low-fat diet a couple of years ago.

Ask your doctor but, I take one prenatal vitamin every morning. You can get a 3 month supply for $12.00. They also help keep your nails and hair nice and strong, fish is also very good for you too.

Source:

Are prenatal vitamins good for your hair, nails, and skin if your not pregnant ? - Yahoo! Answers

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Re:Hair Loss 51 Minutes ago
Wow...great info, thanks ladies!!! Someone stated that it takes your body about 4 months to react when starting a new diet...and I am at 4 months on this plan, so that makes some sense. I think I will live with the hair loss and let my body adjust rather than go back to all the fast food and sugar just to stop hair loss...lol...Thanks again everyone!!!
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Old 10-05-2007, 08:11 AM   #311
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Like I said last night - I am NOT buying that Kimmer is not still in charge.

She just sent me an email from WEBMASTER @ KIMKINS.com

BS new owners

and now she ticked me off because she is not honouring the C&D

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Old 10-05-2007, 08:11 AM   #312
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Ok here's the latest and I'm really gonn go off in a few after I'm done posting all of this stuff:

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Yup their success story leilei is 24 weeks pregnant and her posts I read from the other day have been edited. The part about her family giving her grief about Kimkins and making sure she eats has been edited out.

"Re:Sexzy Lei Lei is 18wks Pregnant! 2 Weeks, 3 Days ago
Hello all!

I am 23 wks or 6 months and TP is very very active in my tummy! I have not taken any pic lately nor have I weighed. I tried on my 5/6 jeans 2 wks ago and was able to put them on (of corse not button them) but I noticed that now the thigh area is atight
I have not been eating healthy every time I try I get sidetracked or talked out of it. HERE'S WHERE IT WAS EDITED
I am just enjoying this time being a new mommy all over again.

Lei Lei "
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Old 10-05-2007, 08:14 AM   #313
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https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/we...center-outside

Here is a page that might help expidite PayPals investigation. I think any of us who paid via PayPal need to tell them of this fraud...even before court action!
I just went. There must be a ton of people there because I got this message after trying to file a complaint:
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Unfortunately many already have and PayPal didn't seem to care.
I think with the information about the fraud, it being on TV and the fake success stories it will be different this time.

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Looky!!! Her site is going down!!! I added in RED

Site Information for: kimkins.com/

Kimkins
kimkins.com

A membership weight loss site dedicated to safe, fast weight loss through a combination of lean protein and low carb vegetables, plus discussion forums, expert athletic training advice, recipes, sample menus and weight loss challenge groups.


Kimkins.com has a traffic rank of: 56,596 GOING DOWN IN NUMBERS




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Site Stats for kimkins.com:
Kimkins.com has a traffic rank of: 56,596 (15,828)
Speed: Average 9419 872811 (54% of23 s9130it90es are slower)39,90472 Avg L96oad Time: 2.1 Seconds
Other sites that link to this site: 2543376370
Online Since: 22-Apr-2006
What did the number used to be, do you know?
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Old 10-05-2007, 08:15 AM   #314
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Jeez...I go from laughing my arse off to being really angry. Right now, I am really angry. Reading those posts from innocent KK members who have no idea what is going on makes me really angry. That site needs to be straight up SHUT DOWN.

I am still a member over there, have been for quite some time, but never posted. I know what is going on, but it is just so sad to me that there are STILL innocent victims there. Gol darn it...
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Old 10-05-2007, 08:17 AM   #315
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This is the Internet Archive of Kimkins.com. She can remove image links, but all text will still be there. There is nothing she can do about that.
Thanks for posting the name of that that site again...all I could think of was "time machine".
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Old 10-05-2007, 08:17 AM   #316
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I am working on setting up the blog here with the confirmed fraudulent pics and I will put this list with all the ??? pics there, but thought it would help to have it here for searching.

Did someone get a list of websites for reviewing together so I can add them to the blog that would be great....hitting the blog......
HoneyBee, when I click the link in your siggy to see the LCF blog, I get a page that says I am not authorized to view the page. Do you have it set to only be seen by your buddy list or something? If so, would you please add me to your buddy list?

Can anyone else access the blog? Am I on ignore???
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Old 10-05-2007, 08:17 AM   #317
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Like I said last night - I am NOT buying that Kimmer is not still in charge.

She just sent me an email from WEBMASTER @ KIMKINS.com

BS new owners

and now she ticked me off because she is not honouring the C&D
C&D???
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Old 10-05-2007, 08:17 AM   #318
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am 23 wks or 6 months and TP is very very active in my tummy! I have not taken any pic lately nor have I weighed. I tried on my 5/6 jeans 2 wks ago and was able to put them on (of corse not button them) but I noticed that now the thigh area is atight
I have not been eating healthy every time I try I get sidetracked or talked out of it. HERE'S WHERE IT WAS EDITED
I am just enjoying this time being a new mommy all over again.
Are you kidding me?!? There is a pregnant woman following this "diet"?!?
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Old 10-05-2007, 08:18 AM   #319
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I just went. There must be a ton of people there because I got this message after trying to file a complaint:
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Please check the PayPal Systems Board for possible updates.

I think with the information about the fraud, it being on TV and the fake success stories it will be different this time.



What did the number used to be, do you know?
It's not allowed to be posted.... I do have it though..
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I posted yesterday, but wanted to reiterate...

For those of you who have Facebook (even those who don't..you can sign up), I have started a group called "Kimkins Sucks...the story of an internet scam".

Come on in
I just joined the group -
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I think C&D means cease and desist. Kim asked Kimmer to C&D using her name and information as she is no longer affiliated with Kimkins.
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Yes Julia there is and this is really making me mad. Are you so selfish as to follow this woe while you are pregnant, and so dumb that you don't think that the Dr will have a cow when you tell him, IF you tell him? Here's another post from her:

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Leilei's post a month ago

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Just a post to show you how much Kimkins gets into these people minds and takes over everything in their life including their pregnancies-this was from a month ago. When I was pregnant that was the most blissful time of eating I can remember.

"Re:Sexzy Lei Lei is 18wks Pregnant! 1 Month ago
Thanks you guys!!!

I am really enjoying all these movements going on in my tummy.

On the food note I AM SICK AN TIRED OF BEING SICK AN TIRED OF EATING WHATEVER CAUSE I PREGNANT.

I MISS KIMKINS EATING. I feel like throwing up cause what I eat now is no longer a temptation but a must cause i don't want to harm my unborn child by being in ketosis.

But you just wait when i drop this baby an go home to the hospital i am kimkins strict so i can drop this wt and the ucky feeling.

Lei Lei"
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Jeez...I go from laughing my arse off to being really angry. Right now, I am really angry. Reading those posts from innocent KK members who have no idea what is going on makes me really angry. That site needs to be straight up SHUT DOWN.

I am still a member over there, have been for quite some time, but never posted. I know what is going on, but it is just so sad to me that there are STILL innocent victims there. Gol darn it...
I made a few buddies before I left - exchanged emails before I left, and only one decided to stick with kk. Of course, now the admins are looking harder.
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